/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3414783]

/sci/, please put forth to me a valid argument as to why Christianity is bullshit. My friend is trying to 'convert' me, and I am seriously getting pissed off. I am currently agnostic, and I do not wish to subscribe to any specific religion. Just give me several valid reasons why you feel as though Christianity is a pointless road which no 'sane' being should venture down.

[Anonymous No.3414787]

Faith can be proven to be a shitty system.

[Anonymous No.3414790]

>>3414783
>waaaaaay more than thousands of years bro

[Anonymous No.3414799]

you seem to have it pretty covered. Based on what you wrote you have 0 faith so just say what you feel.

if he really is trying to convert you you need to rethink your
>friend
since he is not going to listen to reason.

[Anonymous No.3414809]

Occam's razor

[Anonymous No.3414810]

>>3414790
>doesn't realize it's an summary of his actions assuming the bible is true, hence using the timeline presented therein bro

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[Anonymous No.3414829]

Souls do not exist. We know this because every function they were supposed to have is performed by the human brain. Except bring people back to life. That doesn't happen.

Furthermore, prayers don't get answered with a probability higher than random chance and natural explanations have always prevailed against supernatural ones.

[Anonymous No.3414842]

>>3414829

which function of the human brain goes to heaven when you die?

[Anonymous No.3414844]

>>3414829

which function of the human brain goes to heaven when you die?

Also what brain function produces a conscience and free will?

[Anonymous No.3414845]

>>3414842

lrn2read.

>Except bring people back to life. That doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.3414847]

>>3414844

>believes that free will exists in the classical sense

Hello mr Dualist.

[Anonymous No.3414849]

Ask him why he thinks belief in Thor or Flying spaghetti monster is bullshit. Then tell him the same reason is why Chriistianity is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3414860]

>>3414844
>which function of the human brain goes to heaven when you die?
This doesn't happen.

>Also what brain function produces a conscience
The entire brain

>free will
lol what

[Anonymous No.3414877]

>>3414783
Out of nothing, nothing comes. I recently dropped my believe in creatio ex nihilo, even though this concept has been around for a long time. After looking through the bible passages concerning this, I have found that the idea is not based directly on scripture, but on ideas read into it.

I now hold to creatio ex deo, meaning created out of the being of God. This is consistent and supports my presuppositional apologetic on God. Where God is a being whose nature can be derived by the necessary axioms needed to account for the reality we see. The most important and overlooked truth being the personal nature needed to create the universe. Without this personal nature nothing could have be set into motion.

[Anonymous No.3414882]

>Agnostic

lol

[Anonymous No.3414884]

christianity is a human sacrifice cult

is there any valid argument that aliens haven't implanted a chip in the crazy homeless guys leg?

they're both ludicrous delusions that only make sense to those with mental illness

[Anonymous No.3414888]

>>3414783
>friend
>Is trying to change who you are and what you believe in
Tell them to just shut up and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3414901]

>>3414877
How do you account for universal logical principles?
They just are.
How do you account for morality?
It just is.
Where did the energy in the universe come from?
It always existed.
How do you account for uniformity in the universe?
It's nature does not change.
Did we come from nothing or everything?
Everything.
Was the universe created from a personal or impersonal force?
Personal, else nothing would be put into motion.

String all your axioms together, can it account for the totality of reality you see right now, including the formation of the universe, the matter/energy that exists, knowledge, morality, etc.? If not then you are missing pieces of the puzzle.

This is what God is, that unchanging, infinite existence.

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[Anonymous No.3414910]

>>3414860

I was just pointing out that the post about souls was complete bullshit >>3414829

The function of the soul is to go to heaven, have a conscience, and enforce your free will... none of which is a part of the brain because none of it is real, so the brain can not possibly encapsulate a soul.

[Anonymous No.3414911]

>>3414901

Nope, that's the property of existence, not god.

One is a property, the other is a fairytale boogeyman. The definitions are quite different.

[Anonymous No.3414912]

>>3414882
No.

Agnosticism is the active belief that God exists but is fundamentally unknowable, there is no such thing as an agnostic atheist(what would that even mean?, you disbelieve in an unknowable god?)

[Anonymous No.3414913]

>>3414910

>conscience

>not real

[Anonymous No.3414914]

>See image

[Anonymous No.3414917]

>>3414824
lol asking the wrong questions
>>3414882
Are you aware how obnoxious that is?

[Anonymous No.3414921]

>>3414829
>Except bring people back to life. That doesn't happen.
Tell that to the people who were clinically dead for about a minute, and still came back perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.3414926]

[Anonymous No.3414930]

somebody fucking archive this thread, and show it to newfags, whenever they try to discuss religion -.-

[Anonymous No.3414931]

>>3414930
No good. It's just atheist chestbeating.

They're not even addressing any religion but Christianity...

[Anonymous No.3414932]

>>3414921

After the 'wave of death' in which neurons lose their ability to transmit signals, there is no coming back.

Heart stoppage isn't death.

[Anonymous No.3414936]

>>3414931
Please read
>>3414783
And gtfo

[Anonymous No.3414940]

This.

[Anonymous No.3414942]

>>3414912

[Anonymous No.3414958]

>>3414942
Except it's not. He's right, you're being a fucking idiot with your whole organization.

[Anonymous No.3414967]

>>3414912
most 'agnostics' I know just don't give a damn.

[Anonymous No.3414969]

>>3414940

That's wrong. Jahve is jewish, not christian. Christian god had no name.

[Anonymous No.3414971]

You cannot provide a valid argument against Christianity.

Explain why the bible says something false? "Lol no it's not literal".
They will literally make shit up.

[Anonymous No.3414975]

>>3414969
If you ever have Jehova's Witnesses knock on your door, you should tell them this.

[Anonymous No.3414985]

>>3414912

>Agnosticism is the active belief that God exists but is fundamentally unknowable

its not you faggot.

[Anonymous No.3414988]

>>3414926
>Book of Leviticus
>Search it

that's the best thing I've ever read, and he isn't even trolling

[Anonymous No.3414996]

>>3414969

The Christian god is the fucking Jewish god you gigantic retard.

[Anonymous No.3415001]

>>3414926

This is fucking delicious.

[Anonymous No.3415002]

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[Anonymous No.3415011]

while on the topic of religion.... what do you /sci/tard's think happens after we die? is there an afterlife?

[Anonymous No.3415018]

>>3415002
why?

[Anonymous No.3415039]

>>3415011
Of course not sillybuns

[Anonymous No.3415048]

>>3415018


/sci/ - Science & Math
All science and math related topics welcome.
Homework threads will be deleted, and the poster banned.
No "religion vs. science" threads.

[Anonymous No.3415060]

http://www.4chan.org/rules#sci
>No "religion vs. science" threads.

Yes, you really are a cool and edgy hipster for rebelling against your soccer mom for making you go to sunday school all those years, but this is a forum about science not teen angst butthurt.

Try here instead,

http://www.gaiaonline.com/

or maybe put a deep quote on your facebook status, whatever, anything is fine, just not here.

[Anonymous No.3415068]

>>3415039

[Lukas !HELM.Zxlvw No.3415104]

>>3415011

define "afterlife".

[Anonymous No.3415107]

>>3415060
Question for curiosity's sake - what about a thread regarding "religion in science"? i.e. scientists who still harbor some semblance of spirituality, not necessarily Christianity, but still the belief in a higher power?

[Anonymous No.3415120]

>>3414958
see
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[Anonymous No.3415143]

>>3414783
the 'wait thousands of years' part is most significant.


christians have concocted this thread for why everything exists. (because god did it). what they've done though, is complete disregard millions of creatures and other humans who lived prior to god's supposed intervention in the middle east. These people would have lived barely into their 20s. They were hardly even given a chance.

It all becomes very pathetic when religious apologists try to offset their guilt from this arrogance and naivety by insisting that christ's sacrifice and entry into heaven is retroactive. It's a convenient yet lame excuse and is hardly any consolation for those people who were constrained to very meager circumstances.

[Anonymous No.3415141]

>>3415060
Agreed, since it's banned in the rules, there should be no threads about it.

However, if that weren't there, I would say they're very related.

[Anonymous No.3415147]

>>3414783
the 'wait thousands of years' part is most significant.


christians have concocted this theory for why everything exists. (because god did it). what they've done though, is complete disregard millions of creatures and other humans who lived prior to god's supposed intervention in the middle east. These people would have lived barely into their 20s. They were hardly even given a chance.

It all becomes very pathetic when religious apologists try to offset their guilt from this arrogance and naivety by insisting that christ's sacrifice and entry into heaven is retroactive. It's a convenient yet lame excuse and is hardly any consolation for those people who were constrained to very meagre circumstances.