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3343859 No.3343859 [Reply] [Original]

saw this posted on another board. why is science so inconsistent and sub-subservient to politics?

it makes me question why they removed homosexuality from mental illness status to 'normal' status and why the IQ for retardation was lowered substantially, among other things

>> No.3343871

>why is science so inconsistent and sub-subservient to politics?

It's not, sage

>> No.3343882

>>3343871
Not OP here, but the image he posted is pretty good evidence of his point. Did you forget to look at the image, or did you have a valid counter argument?

>> No.3343893

Uh if you have questions maybe you should try a fucking library? That is what they are for. Schools as well but apparently you cant be bothered.

>> No.3343894

>>3343882

>the image he posted is pretty good evidence of his point

if that's the case, then how can interracial couples have babies?

>> No.3343902

>>3343882
Your "counter argument" exists in gradeschool primers you ignorant fucktard.

You dont even know how fucking stupid you sound, and that is funny.

>> No.3343907

>>3343894

I'm pretty sure those two apes could have babies as well and it's probably likely that humans can breed with other great apes as well. But I doubt anyone is willing to test that.

>> No.3343912

>>3343894
Aw, how adorable, he thinks there aren't animals classified as separate species that can have fertile offspring (never mind sub-species).

>> No.3343916

>>3343902
>fuck fuck tard u stupid idiot grade school irrational bigot and dum

cool argument bro, is this what your liberal professor taught you when confronted with these facts?

>> No.3343920

You fucking retard. Mutations in certain seemingly insignificant proteins (which can cause a pre-zygotic barrier to reproduction) or chromosome number can create separate species. This is why the two orangutans there are two species--it has very little to do with outward appearance.

You internet racists all seem to be "experts" on biology. There are some really clever genetic arguments I could think of to support aspects of racism, but you fat retards on the internet won't ever read enough biology beyond what you learned in middle school ("durr A pairs with T xD").

>> No.3343921

>>3343912

aw, how adorable, he discusses biology while knowing fuck all about it

>> No.3343922

>>3343912
what's the definition of species, 'cause that's the one I heard

>> No.3343931
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3343931

<---Same species

>> No.3343937

races of humans look vastly different to humans because we've evolved to notice small traits. In other words, asians, europeans, and africans are more alike than you think, OP.

>> No.3343939

100 is the average IQ by definition, not because it happens to be the answer the scientists measured. Intelligence is rising. A 100 IQ now is not the same thing as a 100 IQ 60 years ago.

>> No.3343944

>>3343920
are you really trying to imply that humans had a bunch of mutations only on the surface of their body? this is factually proven wrong by studying the skeleton, brain size, reactions to medication, and much more of each not-so-clearly-defined race.

your argument isnt really disproving OPs claim that there is an inconsistency and contradiction, youre just explaining the monkey part of the image to people who dont know better

>> No.3343947

>>3343921
>implying he isnt correct,
there are species that can interbreed but normally dont except when humans intervene.

>> No.3343953

>>3343931
And no one doubts they are a different sub-species with different traits such as intellect, strength, smelling ability, etc. So your post actually lends evidence to the OP.

>> No.3343955

>>3343882
>but the image he posted is pretty good evidence of his point

Maybe if you're a retard.

>> No.3343956

>>3343931
Exactly.
External features aren't what dictates species/sub-species classification. It's all dependent on what sort of mutations and adaptations the animals have acquired. This is pathetic, internet racists. Try harder.

>> No.3343964

>>3343931
><---Same species

With a much bigger genetic difference than between human "races."

>> No.3343975

>>3343937
Oh wow, that is the most ridiculous pulled-out-the-ass theory I've ever heard. You actually believe your own fantasy over the opposite, that we are different races, which actually has evidence supporting it, unlike the theory you just made? This is why science is in shambles. It's filled with people who want to prove their bias, rather than search for truth.

>> No.3343979

>>3343956
refer to >>3343953

>> No.3343989

>>3343907
and I know for a fact that you are wrong

>> No.3343991

>herp derp
>cherry pick pictures
>put in MS Paint
>call it an argument

>> No.3344000

>>3343989
Maybe you're just sterile.

>> No.3344012

Here's a reference from wikipedia:

"Most textbooks follow Ernst Mayr's definition of a species as "groups of actually or potentially interbreeding natural populations, which are reproductively isolated from other such groups"."

>> No.3344022

>>3344012
so that describes human races before we invented ships

>> No.3344034

>>3344022
Nope
"groups of actually or potentially interbreeding natural populations"

>> No.3344038

>>3344022

wait, are you seriously suggesting that we didn't have intercontinental travels before ships were invented?

>> No.3344051

>>3344038
interbreeding before ships was based on proximity just like any other genetically drifting species, lrn2comprehend

>> No.3344057 [DELETED] 

>>3343964
which means human races are the same species.

>> No.3344062

>>3344057
the orangutans have lesser genetic differences than both dogs and humans

>> No.3344104

Even IF science is

>inconsistent and sub-subservient to politics

the examples you are giving are irrelevant to actual science. I don't see how this would ever be a problem, as long as it doesn't hold back scientific advance. And the only concerns we have there are ethical and moral such as genetic stuff.

What I'm trying to say is that I can not believe you're wasting your time with this discussion as OPs concern is misplaced. It is nothing to worry about whether it's true or not.

And I'm danish which is why I might sound really fucking stupid but I promise you I'm not

>> No.3344106

>>3344062

prove it.

>> No.3344115

>>3344104
>the truth doesnt matter as long as we advance n stuffz hurr durr

typical liberal atheist. lies are okay if they make people feel better hurr durr

>> No.3344117

>>3344104

also I should have saged my fist post but I didn't. Sorry

>> No.3344197

>>3344115

>the truth doesnt matter

awesome misquotation there. Or just failure to understand my post, not sure which.

Social constucts (categorize me again if you can)

>> No.3344219

>>3344197
>Even IF science is inconsistent and sub-subservient to politics the examples you are giving are irrelevant to actual science. I don't see how this would ever be a problem, as long as it doesn't hold back scientific advance.

theres a direct quote of you saying the truth doesnt matter as long 'science advances' hurr durr

>> No.3344789

>>3343991
>herp derp no argument or proof against it

>> No.3344834

Hey OP, did you know that humans, unlike some animals, progeny have different skin color after only one generation of being breeded by parents of different skin tones?

So, a "white" person has a baby with a "black" person and BOOM, the baby changes of race; he is in the mulatto race. Neat, huh?

>> No.3344947

>implying those orangutans can get fertile offspring
>implying different human races can't get infertile offspring

l2species

>> No.3344968

why the fuck does it matter? Just get over it.

>> No.3345157

>>3344968
>why does the truth matter hurr durr

this is why liberals need to be booted out of science

>> No.3345161

>>3345157
>implying he isn't a conservatard who hates science

>> No.3345164

>>3344834
Oh wow, did your professor teach you that ridiculous argument? The baby isn't a different race, it's a hybrid. There are hybrids all over nature. Honestly, who do you think you're convincing with that? Only the 13 year olds who watch MTV would believe such an argument, but then again, that's who you 'race doesnt exist' fags target.

>> No.3345170

>implying first-glance phenotype is a good criterion for defining species
No

>> No.3345171

Oh, two species look similar so these things look different but science says herp derp shut the fuck up OP

>> No.3345175

I wouldn't call homosexuality an illness, it's a disorder. It doesn't cause the homosexual any damage, nor does it damage society.

>> No.3345184

>>3345170
human races have more biological differences than those orangutans do, the anti-race argument isnt that these differences dont exist, its that there are so many within the race as much as outside the race and therefore race shouldnt be a good division system

>> No.3345194

>>3345175
Actually it does. Homosexuals get tons of diseases, colon dysfunction, mental dysfunction (excluding homosexuality itself), etc.

>> No.3345198

>>3345184
>human races have more biological differences than those orangutans do
No.

>> No.3345207

>>3345194

Not to mention that the gays get AIDS. Those poor engineerfags.

>> No.3345212

>>3345194
The former, I agree with. This isn't a direct effect though, and it's circumstantial. The latter is purely social.

>> No.3345219
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3345219

Even if the did lower the minimum system requirements of mental retardation from 75 to whatever.... That person is still fucking dumbbbb.

>> No.3345224

>>3345219
actually, this has jogged my memory. The level at which people are considered retarded is the same as it was before, the reason it was set lower was because IQ had inflated because people are getting *smarter*.

>> No.3345240

>>3345224
IQ is recalibrated on a regular basis. 100 is still average, by definition.

>> No.3345247

>>3345240
Yep. Because the median is rising while individuals' intelligence isn't, retardation is being set at a lower level so as to avoid classifying people who aren't retarded as being.

>> No.3345258

>>3345247
LOL, hadn't thought of that.

And people still believe in Idiocracy.

>> No.3345266

>>3345224
lolno. The level of retardation changed because more than half of blacks fell below it even though they were functional. This prompted the idea that intelligence isn't so clear, like race, and also like race, liberals took this opportunity to discredit the idea of measuring intelligence altogether.

>> No.3345268

>>3345266
[citation needed] bitch.

>> No.3345271

>>3343922
There are different definitions for species. Some organisms can have fertile offspring if they ever mate, but will usually not because of behavioral differences.

>> No.3345274

Didn't you ever learn about punnet squares, OP? Skin color is a gene in humans, and there are millions of other small differences from human to human besides just skin color (eye color, hair color, tallness, etc.). Just because these genes are different between two people doesn't mean they should automatically be put into two different species. If we did that, then every pretty much every single organism on Earth would be considered its own unique organism. Species share very generalized traits, the little tiny differences don't matter as long as the organism still fits the original definition of that species. I don't know about either of the species of orangutan that you posted, but there probably is some sort of semi-major difference between the two that necessitates a differentiation in species name. Otherwise, alright, science fucked up. It happens all the time, no need to try to use that o say it's flat out wrong in every other area.

>> No.3345278

>>3345274
>Skin color is a gene in humans
Actually there are a large number of genes that contribute.

>> No.3345283

>>3345278
Most things are decided by multiple genes, but for the sake of simpicity, man.

>> No.3345284

>>3345274
why do liberals keep claiming that its just skin color? who do you really think youre convincing with this argument? everyone knows brain size, skeletal structure, reaction to medicine, and a huge list of other biological differences between races exist. stop spreading propaganda faggot

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3345291

lol @ all the liberal butthurt ITT

and just for the record, yes sumatran and bornean orangutans can produce offspring

>> No.3345295

>>3345291
Why in that image is the liberal category called liberal creationists? :S

>> No.3345305

/sci/ is the new /new/
lawl

>> No.3345310

>>3345284
You obviously didn't read all the way through. Yes, there are differences, but those are differences present throughout every race of human. Humans are all different in small ways. You're the one trying to group all people of the same color into the same genotype despite these differences in EVERY human.
Also, why do you feel the need to call everyone who disagrees with you liberal? You don't even know my political affiliations, just that I disagree with you. It's hard to take someone seriously when they twist your words and make baseless assumptions about you. Try to have a decent civil discussion, please.

>> No.3345324

>>3345310
yea its so small that its greater than the differences between the pictured orangutans both at a biological and phenotypical level, but its just small enough for your agenda right

what a coincidence

>> No.3345335

>>3345291
i give some credit to theists though at least they admit their beliefs are based on faith whereas liberals just attack everyone with propaganda and fallacies if they dont subscribe to their religion

>> No.3345371

>>3345324
Like I said, I don't know anything about the orangutans in the picture, so as far as I know you're half-right and they should be counted as the same species. Please, for the love of everything good in the world, actually read the words people write and apply some reading comprehension to them. Honestly, it seems to me that the only reason you made this topic is to fight the "liberal agenda" you see in science rather than actually find some basis for these differences in recognizing separate species. If you could actually hold an argument without resorting to personal attacks it might not seem that way.
Speaking of which,
>personal attacks
>not addressing the actual arguments
At least I know I've won. Farewell, troll.

>> No.3345400

>>3345371
are you retarded? 3/4 of your post consisted of personal bullshit and whining and accusing me of being OP, which im not. honestly, stick to the topic or shut up. i never claimed the orangutans should be the same species. i think what everyone on my side of the argument is trying to say is that there is a dishonesty in the presentation of genes and biological differences between human races.

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>>3345400

>> No.3345445

>>3345400
why do you fucking care so much.
get a fucking girlfriend.

>> No.3345455

>>3345400
>stick to the topic or shut up
The topic of the liberal agenda?
>wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg

>> No.3345456

>>3345445
do you tell everyone who searches for truth that they shouldnt care about it? maybe this isnt the right board for you

>> No.3345458
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>>3345456
>search for the truth
More like pushing your conservative agenda, amirite?

>> No.3345467

>>3345456
why are you so fucking preoccupied with this branch of truth?
there's an entire universe out there and you're complaining that people aren't racist enough.
can black people produce fertile offspring with white people? yep. therefore by the common definition they are the same species. if you call them subspecies or whatever is a semantic issue. now fuck off.

>> No.3345473

>>3345467
if it were up to me the "fertile offspring" of niggers and white people would be executed on the spot. fucking liberal scum.

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3345480

Found your picture, OP, what kind of a gun is that? Looks nice.

>> No.3345481

>yfw there is more genetic diversity between sub-saharan africans then there is between all the other human races
>yfw any attempt to catagorise humans genetically leads to (Pacific Islanders, Southeast Asians, Amerindians, Artic Northeast Asians, Northeast Asians, European Caucosoids and Non-European Caucosoids) on one side and Africans on the other
>yfw Australian Aborigines and Papua New Guineans are the most genetically distant 'race' from Africans
>yfw Caucosoids are the least genetically distant 'race' from Africans.
>yfw the European Caucosoid 'race' was formed approx. 40,000 years ago by settlement of 2/3 East Asians and 1/3 Africans.

Just shut the fuck up, seriously - yes race sort of exists, but not in the way that you want it to.

>> No.3345487

>>3345473
aaaaand at the end of that round...
it's a 1/10 from all of the judges.
how old are you? 12? seriously you're totally fucking pathetic at this trolling thing, don't give up your dayjob.

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3345502

Don't argue with your intellectual superiors, OP.

>> No.3345510

>>3345502
[citation needed]

>> No.3345518

>>3345510
Nope, it's in a graph, so it's totally legit like every other piece of proof you've posted. Just accept it like you do your information on the topic at hand. No need to scrutinize info now of all times.

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>>3345467
>>3345458
>>3345445
>>3345413
>>3345371
Fucktards detected.

>> No.3345525

>>3345510
2 seconds on google.
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-02-26/health/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence_1_sexual-behaviors-libe
ralism-exclusivity?_s=PM:HEALTH

>> No.3345531

>>3345510
Wait, you didn't already know this? This has been common knowledge for quite some time.

>> No.3345544

http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/liberals_smarte.html

>LIBERALS ARE SMARTER THAN CONSERVATIVES

>Of those who consider themselves “liberal” or “extremely liberal” (POLVIEWS 1-2), 20.8% had high vocabulary scores.

>Of whose who consider themselves “conservative” or “extremely conservative” (POLVIEWS 6-7), only 13.8% had high vocabulary scores.

>REPUBLICANS ARE SMARTER THAN DEMOCRATS

>Of those who identify as Republican (PARTYID 5-6), 15.6% had high vocabulary scores.

>Of those who identify as Democrats (PARTYID 0-1), only 11.9% had high vocabulary scores.

>> No.3345546

>>3345524
Congratulations on proving that you're just trying to justify your own racial prejudices rather than search for "the truth". That graph has nothing to do with different races being different species, only to do with black people being caught for crimes more often. You're totally not biased in the subject that's actually relevant to the topic, no.
Also, correlation =/= causation. But of course you already know this.

>> No.3345557

>>3345518
Nice assumptions, you cretin.

>>3345525
doesn't provide the numbers seen in the graph/is popsci

>>3345531
sure, I know it. It's just that I fucking hate graphs without citations. The whole "scientific advance" with bullshit darkages thing has made me fear them for life.

>> No.3345559

>>3345546
>HURRR DURRR UR RACIST
>EVEN THOUGH THIS CORRELATES MUCH BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR, I CAN CLAIM CORRELATION DOESN'T EQUAL CAUSATION FALLACIOUSLY

Antiracism = antirationality.

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>>3345544
>UPDATE
>I may have been wrong. See my post: Democrats may now be the more intelligent party.
>http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/democrats_may_n.html

>> No.3345590

Has anyone else noticed the republican strategy is to not tax and start wars and the democrat strategy is to tax and not start wars?

>> No.3345594

>>3345559
Race isn't even the factor that plays into the high rate of crime among blacks. It's black culture. They're not criminals straight out of the vagina, it's the environment they grow up in, it always is. That's the correlation that is actually scientificaly sound. When you find the "rob a bank" gene, let me know.

>> No.3345622

>>3345594
Higher levels of testosterone in different races

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1621259

Testosterone linked to social deviance

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.1993.tb01123.x/abstract

There you go.

>> No.3345647

>>3345467
do you even know how to read? the OP image discusses sub-species. fuckin shit anti-racers are retarded

>> No.3345654

>>3343953
>they are a different sub-species

this is false.

>> No.3345661

Just as Dentists don't make great Physicists, Biologists don't make great Sociologists.

There is more genetic similarity between a man in Europe and a man in central Africa than a family of chimps. To try and conflate cultural attitudes with genetics is disingenuous, and is only fodder for wannabe nazis.

>> No.3345684

>>3345594
>RACE DOESNT HAVE ANYHIN TO DO WITH IT MAN CANT U SEE ITS A MiLLION DIFFERENT COINCIDENCES AND EXCUSES AND HISTORICAL EVENTS THAT MAKES THEM DUMB ANGRY MURDERERS

liberalism

>> No.3345699

>>3345305
>>3345305
>>3345305
>>3345305
>>3345305
>>3345305

Jesus fuck this.

I had a more civilized and accurate discussion on /Sp/ this morning about the exact same topic

you all have become astoundingly retarded since 4 months ago, when i was here last

>> No.3345710

>>3345699
it is, frankly, disgusting. Nobody here, including me, is qualified to talk about race with any actual authority and yet everyone seems to consider their opinion oh-so-valuable and correct.

>> No.3345716

>>3343859
I agree, homosexuals have no place saying that they were born as homosexuals unless they are able to back their claims up

>> No.3345731

>>3345710
Basically, we need someplace to herd all the ignorance

that used to be /new/ and /r9k/ but now that shit has spilled all over us, like a toilet without a proper bowl

>> No.3345734

>>3345710
hypocrite. you wouldnt say people were unqualified to talk about _____ if it were politically correct.

>> No.3345737

>>3345731
>doesn't mention /b/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait. Shit. THAT'S WHERE THE IGNORANCE IS COMING FROM

>> No.3345740

>>3345734
I'm unqualified to talk about race because I don't know enough about race specific genetics, you dumb shit. I don't give a fuck what politics has to do with it. I recognise that if anyone listens to my opinions put in the way you ignorant fucktards portray them then I could be responsible for someone hating people for entirely unfounded goals. If you consider yourself qualified enough to talk about this with any authority, give me some fucking credentials. Otherwise, Shut up and get back to /newpol/.

>> No.3345742

>>3345740
>unfounded goals
wat
try "baseless reasons".

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3345746

ITT: Summerfags yelling at eachother while old fags cower and or lol

>> No.3345759

>>3345746
>implying /sci/ hasnt been like this since it was created

HURR DURR IM SUCH AN OLD FAG I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE NEW YEARS

>> No.3345774

>>3345759
/sci/duck was created at post like... 127
but no, in the past when these debates came up (which was only after /new/ was deleted) typically the /new/fags would scream about blacks being less intelligent as a function of their race, and the whole socio-economic upbringing thing would be brought up.

>> No.3345781

>>3345759
7999th post here, nope. The racist bullshit appeared at the same time /stormfront/ closed.

>> No.3345840

>>3345746

true that.

>> No.3346017

>>3345661
There is more genetic similarity between a border collie and a great dane than between an Englishman and a Bantu

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>>3345746
I watch ponies!!
Let's post ponies!

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ponythread?

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ponythread.

>> No.3346088

>>3343859

So OP. How do you reconcile being the intellectually superior master race with believing in the validity of an IQ test?

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>> No.3346103

>>3343859
Because social science is not science, it's politics?

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>>3346096

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>OP

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>> No.3346129

uh oh looks like a liberal homosexual with no life caught wind of a thread they disagree with and now wants to censor it, just like he wants to censor science

>> No.3346134
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>> No.3346139

>>3346129
Sage. No one love you, redneck.

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Shit, I don't even know what this thread is about. But it doesn't matter - PONIES!

>> No.3346145

Huh, you guys don't sage this shit?

back when I lurked /sci/ we saged this shit. sometimes we even reported it.

kids these days...

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>> No.3346153

>>3346149
Hey, you ponyfags are all about love and friendship. Why continually bump a racism thread?

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I never knew /sci/ could be so receptive to ponies!

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This is what Newton actually studies during his spare time.

>> No.3346165

>>3346153
>>3346149
>>3346145
oh wow 2 liberals working mentally in sync with a silent agreement to silence all dissenters hahaha this is what happens IRL too

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>> No.3346170

>>3346165
>implying I'm even liberal
>implying implications which were not implied

Not racist != Liberal

>> No.3346174

Humans went through a population bottleneck less than 80,000 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

The differences between us are so minor that they're irrelevant. Racial traits can manifest in only a few generations but that doesn't make us separate species by any stretch of the imagination.

You cannot argue against this. Thread OVER.

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>> No.3346176

>>3346170
claiming race exists is racist? i guess 99% of humanity is racist then. how does it feel to be so special?

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>> No.3346193

>>3346174
sure i can, where is your evidence that the differences are minor? what scale are you using for this? i can give you a huge list of differences by race: reactions to medication, connective tissue diversity and location, brain size, bone density, and the list goes on.

wheres your proof?

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meow

>> No.3346202 [DELETED] 

>>3346174
So evolution stopped happening 80000 years ago for no apparent reason?

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Alright, this is my last one for tonight. Sleep well, all!

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>> No.3346216

>>3346193
>>3346193
correlate your list with OP's comparison, then get back to me.

>> No.3346222

Liking ponies is irrational

>> No.3346232

>>3346216
your post doesnt make any sense. you made the claim that the differences are minor, i showed you some major differences (in my opinion)

where do you get your information that the differences are minor? what scale is being used?

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>>3346193
>Where's your proof

I'm pretty sure you mean,
Where's your hoof

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>>3346236
I'm pretty sure they mean
"Ponies are fucking awesome"

>> No.3346323

sage, hidden

>> No.3346331

>2011
>thinking there's a concrete absolute difference between "species" and "sub-species"

I hope you guys don't do this

>> No.3346338

>>3346232
Makes perfect sense, go ahead, compile your list of 'significant differences' for humans, and then do the same for wtf animal is in OP's pic.

Then get back to me, if not, stfu and stop your pseudoscience positioning.

>> No.3346352

>>3346338
excuse me, but i gave you some differences that are undisputable fact. in my opinion they are significant. you claimed there are only minor differences. so far, i am winning the argument because you have provided no counter argument

where is your proof that the differences are minor? what scale are you using?

>> No.3346361

This is a bad post and you are shit.

>> No.3346379

>>3346352
Yes, but you didn't compare anything to any other species.

Hell, if you really wanted to claim sub-species designation, you'd have to compare it to every other species and their sub-species.

Just having some random traits you claim to be significant isn't enough to identify what you're categorizing.

>pro tip: arguing about categories alone ain't gonna prove your point.