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As much as I love the idea of Star Trek style space travel, when you get down to the reality of it, wouldn't exploring space be rather boring unless you're a hardcore geologist, chemist or physicist? Chances are we don't run into any life, or any life we do run into is microbial and only interesting to specialist. Most the planets will be hot and barren or balls of gas, and the rest is just black holes (which you can only study from afar) and empty space. There will be no magical fantasic times :(

>> No.3313618

Space travel is 70% just making sure you can avoid apocalypse events on Earth and not lose your entire species.

>> No.3313635

You need magic to enjoy beauty of life? You need fantasy to bring an amber of passion into your perspective of the univers mechanism and mysteries?

Be in harmony with Nature or, at least, be passionated about something. Remember: in science, the more you discover, the less you know.

>> No.3313638

Isn't all exploration like that?

People don't go exploring because it'll bring them drama, they do it because its a challenge.

>> No.3313640

Colonization would be interesting.

>> No.3313649

>>3313635
>Remember: in science, the more you discover, the less you know.

No, that's the opposite of true.

The more you discover the more you know. Otherwise we'd be trying frantically to undiscover everything.

>> No.3313655

>>3313635

>Remember: in science, the more you discover, the less you know.

Technically, the more you discover, the more you know.

I get what you mean though.

>> No.3313661

>>3313649
>>3313655

hivemind

>> No.3313669

>>3313635

>amber of passion


ember

>> No.3313675

As much as I love the idea of Magellan style world travel, when you get down to the reality of it, wouldn't exploring the world be rather boring unless you're a hardcore geologist, chemist or physicist? Chances are we don't run into any new land or new people, or any life we do run into is just savages. Most of the ocean will be dangerous and risky for the crew, and the land will just be crazy animals and empty land. There will be no magical fantasic times :(

>> No.3313678

>>3313655
>>3313649
Hive stupidity.

>you have known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

>> No.3313686

>>3313675
fivestarpost.jpg

>> No.3313687

>>3313655
>>3313649
Technically, if you answer one question but rise over 10 others, than, mathematically, you know less.

>> No.3313679

everyone's wrong. The more you discover, the more you realize you don't know anything.

>> No.3313692

>>3313675

You were born too early Magellan...

You will never become a privateer and loot english ships :(

>> No.3313699

>>3313679

If everything is wrong the statement "everything is wrong" is wrong.

>> No.3313704

>>3313679

It's not that we didn't understand what he was saying, or the idea of discovering there's so much to discover, but in the hard literal sense, the more you discover, the more you know. It can't be argued against, it's a fact. 15 years ago I didn't know what was inside atoms, these days I know. It's gained knowledge, my knowledge has increased, I know more than I did.

>> No.3313713

>>3313675


Well, the difference being that the earth is filled with shit, where as space, even with its trillions of suns and planets, is still quite black and empty, and could only really be interesting if we found earth-style planets.

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3313720

>>3313675
>The year is orders of magnitude different, it's like saying 'oh geez, this newtonian physics is awesome, I bet it works on every scale!

Seriously futurists, get your head out of your ass.

>> No.3313722

>>3313675

We may have explored the earth and found new shit, but there were certainly no magical fantastic times involved.

>> No.3313763

>>3313704
It would depend on your definition of "know". If, like Plato, you define it as a justified true belief, then science never changes our level of knowledge, because no scientific model is true. If you relax the definition to just a justified belief, then it IS true that the more you discover the less you know. We had a justified belief in Newtonian physics, and then, maybe for a moment, a justified belief in General Relativity. But through additional discovery we know that General Relativity is false, as it is incompatible with the findings of QM, and QM is incapable of describing gravity or the effects of GR. So basically through discovery we now know that all our models are false (though some are useful).

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3313773

If we ever seriously travel the cosmos, this is how it will be done:

1. We will be transhumans. Our minds and self will be on some form of computer. This will eliminate the demand for cumbersome appliances to sustain biological life. This will also eliminate the demand for the travel to be short, as it could literally take a million years--and everyone at home will still be alive.

2. Advanced engineering, coupled with the freedoms brought by not flying biological humans, will allow near light speed travel.

3. With molecular assemblers, we should be able to re-synthesize any foreign samples back at home. All we need is the data. This allows for an even less cumbersome space ship.

4. Artificial intelligence will solve most of the petty technical issues.

>just wrote this now
>feel free to copypasta this or improve on it

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3313790

>>3313773
Transhumanists unite!

>> No.3313848

>>3313763
>no scientific model is true
false
there's no way of ever knowing if a scientific model is ture, sure. but by blind luck it could be true. it isn't impossible.