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i need some advice. i have a project in school where i have to determine the general formula for how many hexagons can you draw on a 3x3 panel as on the picture. the problem is that no angle can be 180° and it has to have 6 corners and 6 sides. if anyone could help, i would appreciate it.

>> No.3288111

12

>> No.3288147
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3288147

intredasting.

I get 9 unique shapes, 2 of which have symetry and so have 4 possible permutations (90 degree rotation) the other 7 have 8 possible perumations (90 degree rotation, multiplied by 2 because the shape can also be inverted and still be unique)

7*8 + 4*2 = 64 unique shapes in total.

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how will you write a general formula? this is a single question. for a formula there usually is some value 'n' which is changing, which corresponds to a number change somewhere else.
you could make a general formula between grid size and number of possible unique shapes, but if it is just a 9X9 grid permanently i fail to see how you can make a formula out of this.

>> No.3288168

>>3288147
OP here, i actually got 13 unique shapes, 1 of them can be rotated once, so 2 shapes, 2 of them can only be rotated so 4 shapes and the other rotated * inverted . so in total 90 shapes.
But does anybody know, if there is a formula for this, cuz i got it for triangles in the same space,
The formula for triangles is (9!)/(6!)(3!) - (the posibilities that that triangle becomes a line)
In that way i need a formula for this but i always get wrong numbers or the equation doesnt make sence.

>> No.3288193

>>3288168
whoops, just realised i missed the 2 from OP's image.
*facepalm*
i get 66 altogether.
can you post pics of the other 12 unique shapes, i cant find them all.

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1

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3288203

2

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3

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4

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3288218

5

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6

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7

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>>3288207
>>3288212
>>3288223
these 3 are all invalid according to the rules set out by OP.

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3288231

8

>> No.3288235

>>3288228
this is also invalid. no angle can be 180 degrees.

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9

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10

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11

>> No.3288251 [DELETED] 

OP, stop being a piece of promethium. OP's post is NIGGERDOM

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>> No.3288262

> the problem is that no angle can be 180°
easy then, no? the hexa has just to have 6 points exactly
so it's the number of combinations of 6 into 9 or something like that

>> No.3288260

>>3288232

dont mind the points in the middle of the lines, its like they arent there. you just have to look at the ones on the end of each line.

>> No.3288276

>>3288262
me again, i calculated 14

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3288281

>>3288260
what?
well then you may as well just delete the 180 degree rule then, because its impossible to make one at the ends of lines because it it at the end of the shape.

>> No.3288283

.>>3288262
if you enumerate all of the points like:
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
and select randomly : you can get a heyagon
1 2
4 5
7 8
and the angle in 4 and 5 is 180°

>> No.3288290

>>3288283
I see

>> No.3288303

>>3288281

Fuck, EK is online.
I didn't read the thread, just saw name + trip.
Where have you been yesterday?
I missed you.

>> No.3288304

>>3288290
you have to select 6 points randomly and connect them... no mather if there is one point in betwen them.

>> No.3288306

>>3288283
oh i see, so then it wold be a rectangle not a hexagon, so you can have double length sides anywhere you like as long as the shape is still a hexagon, i get it.

>> No.3288310

>>3288303
aww thanks hun.
i was here a bit yesterday i posted a little.
I'm usually busy on saturdays so i tend to post a bit less.

>> No.3288315

>>3288306
exactly

>> No.3288339

>>3288310
EK! i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you i love u i lobe u i love u i love i o live i love u!

>> No.3288351

>>3288339
aww thanks hun.
although if you 'lobe' me as well then i dont really know what that is. maybe some fucked up ear related fetish...

>> No.3288358

>>3288351
kill yourself

>> No.3288615

why do you hate on her? yeah, she uses trips and that goes against the whole anonymous spirit of 4chan, but anonymous will never stop, so the fact that some people uses trips, just adds to the plurality of the board.

Also, i like her posts.

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3288617

>>3288615

>> No.3288624

>>3288617
EK! i lobe you! =D

>> No.3288693
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3288693

>>3288615
white knight to the rescue

>> No.3288711

>>3288693
lol, i need no rescue. but its nice to see some people on the board who arn't total asshats.

>> No.3288717

>>3288693
>EK isn't an asshat

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>>3288717
yep. i'm glad we agree.

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>>3288717
>implying EK isn't an asshat

>> No.3288744

>>3288615
>>3288617
>>3288624
samefag