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Continuing from the first thread, here's the progress so far. Added everything from the (now auto-saging) original thread. If I missed your addition, let me know and I'll put it in.

Premise refresher: An anonymous billionaire who posts on /sci/ has offered us as much funding as we need to expand our sea base on the continental shelf. So far we've added pot gardens, two bars (one of which is a strip club, lol) a coffee shop, a hospital, apartments, two entertainment rooms, a restaurant, a tree dome, a nuclear sub pen, a drilling rig, a subsea rocket launch platform, a geology lab, a Thorium reactor and more.

What's next, seabros? More than one laboratory, perhaps? Some defense turrets? A fightersub launch tube? A Cthulu containment facility? The sea is our oyster. Let's conquer it. :3

>> No.3277991

a cinema, that's currently playing 2001

>> No.3278006

>>3277991

I should clarify; This isn't a "You suggest it, I draw it" thread. This is a "You draw it, I'll add it to the image" thread.

But yeah, a cinema's a great idea.

>> No.3278024

Stop fucking writing /Sci/, it makes my OCD rage-meter explode.

>> No.3278027

>>3278024
>Stop fucking writing /Sci/, it makes my autism rage-meter explode.
ftfy

>> No.3278029

Another titty bar.

>> No.3278045

>>3278027

A person can't have autism and OCD?

lol u mad

>> No.3278062

>>3278006
fuck that.. this place is full of right-brained /sci/entists.. not left brain artists..

>> No.3278068

>>3278045

>implying i said they were mutually exclusive
>implying you still arent buttmad because youre autistic

>> No.3278069

I am impress OP, I've put this up:
https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/-sci-undersea-research-base

>> No.3278076

where is the harem of genetically engineered permanent-lolis with cat ears and tails?

>> No.3278083

Extremely impressed by this.
Leave as is.

>> No.3278088

>>3278076

By all means, draw a genetic engineering lab! :3

>> No.3278092
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3278092

>>3278076

>Confirmed for pedo

/g/ is that << way. /sci/ is this ^ v > < way.

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3278096

>>3278068

And...?

>> No.3278099

>>3278092

>>Confirmed for furry
>>No room to talk

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3278106

Added an empty conference room, I'm surprised we don't have one yet.

>> No.3278109

>>3278106

Fuck, I messed it up, hold on.

>> No.3278111

needs storage room, I assume in the highest underground cave.
>Smokin weed in the tree chamber, playing videogames, fine dining among brightly colored fish.

sounds like my kind of place.

>> No.3278117

>>3278109
way to large, conference room should be above ground. This could make a nice storage room though. Also, we need a janitors closet, and some sort of sewage handling system.

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3278121

>>3278109
>>3278106

Fixed

>> No.3278123

Do we have an energy source?

>> No.3278127

>thermal vent
>cold cave below it

that's not how thermal vents werk

>> No.3278128

by my calculations, this is about a 30 man base, we need more beds

>> No.3278133

heh, sea cups

I like that

>> No.3278139

No high voltage lab? Come on, /sci/.

>> No.3278141

What additions have there been since the rocket?

>> No.3278146

How about some sea burrowing creatures. We should be able to see them since it is a cross section

>> No.3278157

>>3278141

The drilling rig.

Excellent suggestions everyone, definitely draw them!

>> No.3278162

I'm contemplating building a rough model of this in Minecraft...

>> No.3278166

>>3278157
What program do you use to draw?

>> No.3278169

Surely we're going to need a good gym in this place.

>> No.3278172

there are still a few problems:
-not often housing
-no sewage/water treatment
-no storage
-empty room that has no convenient use
-elevator from mining station leads to an extra floor with nothing on it.

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3278173

>>3278166

>> No.3278174
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3278174

I have an idea that I'm too lazy to draw; in the bedrooms, there floor is curved down. If we add a flat surface acting as a floor at the same level as the bottom of the door, we have storage space underneath the floor in the bedroom. Sort-of like how they do it in those fibreglass caravans.

>> No.3278177

>>3278169
and this; stationary bicycles in a glass dome would be awesome, exercising while surrounded by fishes

>> No.3278179
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3278179

>Undersea base

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>> No.3278182

>>3278173
Well, I think it's Paint. Just that it's a lot of detail.

>> No.3278183

>>3278182
Yeah, it is.
In the alst thread they were talking about it.
Lots of 1 px work.

>> No.3278187

A library? I'm a shit artist btw.

>> No.3278192

>>3278187
I think there is a bookshelf in the conference room

>> No.3278207

>>3278157
Btw, do you have any previous version of this?
Just going to upload it to the sticky site.

>> No.3278234

Oh, btw, steam turbines are a shitty way to generate energy where space and spare parts are limited.
Using the reactor to power a Thermoelectric generator is a way better idea, even a complete reactor is probably total overkill, and a large Pu-238 nuclear battery should be sufficient.

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3278242

>>3278207

>> No.3278255

>>3278207
I have a .ZIP of most of them from the old thread. Where do you want me to stick it?

>> No.3278258
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3278258

Nobody seems to be drawing anything, so I added a crystal cave.

>> No.3278266

We need a shooting range for developing our coilguns and plasma-throwers.
Also...
>a coffee shop
>ONE coffee shop
This is inadequate.

>> No.3278272

>>3278258
I cant find my windows install cd,and microsoft wants to charge me 19 dollars to download mspaint

>> No.3278278

>>3278234

>>Plutonium battery
>>Not using Thorium
>>laughingmermaids.jpg

>> No.3278279

>>3278272
try
http://www.sheeptech.com/download/mspaint.exe
Paste it in C:\windows\System32

>> No.3278295

>>3278258
>Nobody seems to be drawing anything, so I added a crystal cave.
Nobody is drawing anything because it's fucking retarded.

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3278299

>mfw nobody realizes that there is a horrible red eyed creature in the lower right part of the base

>> No.3278303

>>3278255
Erm, 2shared, 4shared etc...?
I could add you onto the sci guide & you could upload an attachment to the site

>> No.3278304

I think we've forgotten an important part of the drawing
Sea life
LOL

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3278307

>>3278266

>> No.3278310

>>3278303
Glorious, I'll make a google account.

>> No.3278313

>>3278299
>mfw you don't realise it's actually right behind you
Don't turn around, that might startle it.

>> No.3278315

>>3278295

>>Nobody is drawing anything because it's fucking retarded.

Does everyone else agree with this? D:

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>>3278299
That's mandatory according to /sci/'s official religion.

>Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

>> No.3278320

>>3278278
A Radioisotope battery will be smaller and better than a nuclear reactor.
Since space is the constraint (and money probably isn't) it's superior to a reactor in every possible way

>> No.3278328

>>3278320

A typical nuclear battery puts out a couple hundred watts, maximum.

>> No.3278330

>>3278320
Lies, we already have a LFTR you didn't even see.

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3278333

>>3278315
Probably a troll, I'd like to contribute but my paint drawing skills would just simply rape the image.

>> No.3278335

>>3278279
On my phone, but will totally try when i gwt home. Thanks

>> No.3278341

>>3278310
ok, the account is oddSpace@hotmail.com

>> No.3278344

>>3278341
ok done

>> No.3278354

>>3278344
Thanks :D
this might take a while, I'm downloading A Universe from Nothing at the moment.

>> No.3278363

>>3278318
Oh yeah, that's right, we also need a dark cathedral to give praise to our dread-god.

>> No.3278383

>>3278354
alright, feel free to edit pages yourself if you want to.

>> No.3278390

>>3278383
Awesome, thanks

>> No.3278402

someone more artistic than me should add a hipster venue/cafe/theater to the deepest cave and call it 2deep4u

>> No.3278408

>>3278328
>A typical nuclear battery puts out a couple hundred watts, maximum.
All depending on size, bro
>Each GPHS-RTG has a mass of about 57 kg and generates about 300 Watts of electrical power at the start of mission (from about 4,400 Watts of thermal energy) from about 7.8 kg of Pu-238 based fuel.[2]
And that's for spacecrafts, the weight could probably be reduced as you scale it up.
The original MRSE core weighed something along 150 kg, and that was ONLY the core, without any of the associated, piping, fuel salt tanks, etc, etc, and it produced only about 10 MW thermal

A radioisotope battery, will, at any given size and any given weight always vastly outperform any nuclear reactor, because you produce the fuel off-site and then deliver it there

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3278409

>4chan has a science board?
>mfw its 12 year olds building underwater forts

>> No.3278415

Invent Plasmids, Make Rapture.

/thread

>> No.3278419

>>3278409
We're doing a real one later.

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3278429

Okay, some minor modifications that add more places to expand onto.

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>> No.3278449

>>3278439

Did you add something? I don't see any difference.

>> No.3278460

>>3278449
on the module above the corridor to the right of the third greenhouse from the centre there is now a tower. Pretty sure that's it.

>> No.3278463

storage room

>> No.3278467

>>3278460
in retrospect, I probably should have said to the left of the submarine dock. :D

>> No.3278478

>>3278409
Well this is much more entertaining than most of the troll threads on /sci/

>> No.3278489

>>3278467

Oh that? Yeah, that's been added.

>> No.3278504

>>3278489
oh, whoops. I had your two posts the wrong way round.

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3278549

added conference room...

>> No.3278550

I added a sub dock and little repair station inside it

>> No.3278555
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3278555

>>3278550

>> No.3278573

>>3278555
>>3278549

Excellent, adding these now.

>> No.3278579

>>3278573
but it already has a sub dock...

>> No.3278580

Actually, the conference room is great. But the sub repair room appears to have a tissue-thin hull and is a bit sloppy in general. Work on that a bit while I put the conference room in and then I can add it.

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3278589

>>3278549

now with elevator

>> No.3278593

>>3278580
there should be more immediate access from the conference room to the main part of the lab.
also what is that red big rig looking thing?

>> No.3278602

>>3278593
I agree, and it's a tanker trailer converted to an ambient pressure underwater habitat. It's down there because at some point I plan on actually building one.

>> No.3278606

>>3278579
is that what those big gray testicles are?

>> No.3278611

>>3278606
no, those are submarines.

>> No.3278615

>>3278606
yeah they need more detail

>> No.3278621
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3278621

Okay, conference room added with some extra touches of my own design. :3c

>> No.3278629

>>3278621
nice, can you add the elevator too? For higher comfort...
>>3278589

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3278633

>>3278593

A new crystalline element waiting to be discovered. :3

Also, I'e added the elevator to the conference room.

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>>3278621

>>Dat flag design
>>sci confirmed for sea nazis

>> No.3278657

>Rocket has just USA on it

Shouldn't it be more internationally marked? Not only eurobros here but herd there was an Australian here too once

>> No.3278660

>>3278657
no, fuck them

>> No.3278662

>>3278657

Good thinking, I'll put our flag's logo on it. Or "sci" or something.

>> No.3278670

>>3278662

We need a public figure, I suggest Richard Stallman.

>> No.3278671

>>3278670

*Leader, not public figure.

>> No.3278676

>>3278671
Dear leader

Kim Jong Il

>> No.3278678

>>3278670
Stallman is definitely more of a /g/ person. He's also a paranoid paedophile, so not a great representative for us- representative as he may be.

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3278679

>>3278657

There, the rocket is now appropriately branded.

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3278691

>>3277986
FOR THE LOVE OF ZEUS!
PLEASE TELL ME THAT THE "BOOZE" AND "SEA CUP" ARE OPEN 24/7!

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3278703

>>3277986
Where do we go to torture and rape christians? Where is the christian disposal (for the bodies)?

>> No.3278725

Back in a bit, keep the additions coming, I'll paste them all in when I return.

>> No.3278728

>>3278703
That will come after we turn the atmosphere into a toxic hellhole and reenact Archimedian dynasty.

>> No.3278732

We'll probably need a lot of storage if we're going to have shit like a spacecraft and everything. I suggest a few rooms for cargo, maybe with a snazzy looking forklife and some place to produce things.

And maybe holding cells.

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3278739

Update in subrepair and "exploration" subroom

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3278740

>>3278703
>>3278703
>christfag disposal

Just dump the bodies in the ocean....durrr. At least the christfags will have some use in there sad pathetic lives, fishfood.

>> No.3278751

We need algae farms. They require little nutrients and 9 sq. feet of algae can provide food and oxygen enough for one human.

>> No.3278757

Maybe we should add tidal power too? I'm sure upwellings just right of the screen from that trench could provide us with another major power source!

>> No.3278805

Requires additional pylons!

>> No.3278809

>>3278751
I seriously wanna know who was boring enough to go and calculate this.

>> No.3278815

>>3278809
>who was boring enough
Usually I'd phrase this nicely, but kindly fuck off. I doubt you've ever done anything that useful.

>> No.3278822

>>3278809

Maybe this explains it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaO69CF5mbY

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3278826

Updated map with everything added before and algae farms on top of apartments/living space.

>> No.3278870

>go underwater
>build a dome
>pump air into dome

People, we've developed gills and we've also developed photosynthesis

>> No.3278884

>>3278870
So much more expensive and dangerous than using modules.

>> No.3278886

Needs an large aquarium to observe capture marine life in controlled environment.

>> No.3278898

>>3278884
only if it's at one atmosphere. If it's at ambient pressure, the water pushes in the same amount as the air pushes out.

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3278919

>>3277986
FIXED nationality on rocket since America cancelled everything and went bankrupt while in Europe only Greece died.

>Inb4 mad jellyfags

>> No.3278928

>>3278919
The ESA will be using the skylon planes.

Put China on that rocket instead.

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3278930

>Elevators everywhere
>No stairs in case of emergency
>OH SHIT NIGGERS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

And I thought /sci/ was the smartest board on this goddamn site.

>> No.3278938

Have the base on Europa's oceans. Make things more interesting.

>> No.3278944

We need a swimming pool. Swimming's good for you !

>> No.3278945

Sure is full retard in here.

>> No.3278947

Hey, OP, where's the gym in that place, can't have the scientists getting fat and all that.

>> No.3278959

If you think it needs something, feel free to add on to it. Just don't do it half assed

>> No.3278960

>>3278919
Ah, the Twelve stars of Europe...

But remember:

>Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, a symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection.

>Just like the twelve signs of the zodiac represent the whole universe, the twelve gold stars stand for all peoples of Europe – including those who cannot as yet take part.
>—Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955

So technically its the flag of Americans as well, at least those of European ancestry

>> No.3278965

>>3278960
I don't get why we're affiliating ourselves with any nation, we're all from different nationalities coming together to make a environment purely dedicated to science.

>> No.3278973

>>3278965
Agreed.

Just have /sci/ on there.

>> No.3278975

>>3278944
The underwater swimming pool needs a water slide...
a big one.

>> No.3278976

After I eat dinner, I'll work on a storage locker place

>> No.3278978

>>3278965
>>3278973

Congo/Canadafags detected

>> No.3278980

>>3278973
'tis on the most recently updated full version.

>> No.3278989

>>3278980
good, now add my sub-repair room!

>> No.3278990

Oh my god. I still can't believe we're making a underwater base just for ourselves.

>> No.3278992

im sorry OP, but im gonna blow your cover:
HE JUST WANTS A RAPE FACTORY.

>> No.3279000
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3279000

Changed USA to /sci/

>> No.3279006

>>3278989
Did you put it...
over my trailer?

;_;
also, I'll let Mad Scientist handle the most recent edition, I'll mess it up royally. He should be back at some point

>> No.3279009

What is that omnious looking set of red dots(eyes?) in the lower right corner of the picture? Inside of the black cavity (oil reservoir?).

If that's not lightly to kill us, I suggest we drill a canal downwards into the cavity and exploit the oil. Maybe with an external drilling platform.

Of what design I'm not sure, but we should be able to figure something out since we're /sci/ and all. Be inspired by: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Mobile_drilling_platform

>> No.3279013

>>3278886
This! Where else are supposed to have squids and sharks fight? . . . for science of coarse!

>> No.3279029

Can we have something like... a giant room full of weird incubators for all kinds of genetic or Frankenstein-type experiments? I'm thinking of something like in Final Fantasy 7, right before they see Jenova... loads of tanks with mutated humans in them and shit.

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3279031

>>3279013
>. . for science of coarse!
>of coarse!
>coarse

>mfw

>> No.3279032

>>3279009
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

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3279075

I suggest we coat our modules in platinum (the level of unreactiveness is OVER 9000!) and strategically place canisters containing some immensely corrosive agent to take out any attack subs sent for out haven of free thought. Though we could make some agent that solidifies the water into a tough gel of some kind... I'm not sure what would offer the best defensive capabilities, if we had something like that it could be kinda like a shield.

>> No.3279083

bathroom and a fridge?

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3279192

I fixed the entrance to the rocket room so it doesn't mess with the cave. I also added an elevator into the rocket room so people trying to go there or to the conference room don't have to go through two decompression chambers.

>> No.3279235

we should do this next with a spaceship

>> No.3279271

Added a storage area, with door to outside.
I'm thinking about making it an airlock type door maybe?
Also, y'all need to put stuff in it, I figure everyone can put something different in.

Or I can fill it with boxes...

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3279276

>>3279271
Might help if I actually post the image

>> No.3279301

>>3279006
I did, but then again your trailer takes up a lot of ground space, but if this were real it'd be above and behind the trailer, so there would still be room for it.

>> No.3279371

THE FUCK ARE WE GONNA GET A PERMIT FOR THIS.

>> No.3279374

>>3279075
I was gonna say harpoon cannons, but yours sounds better.

>> No.3279377

>>3279371
FUCK YOUR PERMIT WE HAVE FUNDING.

That being said, how about we put our Base O' Doom off the coast of Africa, where the Prime Meridian and Equator intersect?

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3279457

>>3279009
>>3279075

Samefag here, I've added the oil extraction equip.
I couldn't think of a good way to visually represent the defense mechanisms so I didn't make any, I hope you have better luck =)

Now we've got lots of oil, what to do with it....?

>> No.3279460

>>3279457

And I didn't make any innards in the oil pump, as I've got little to no artistic skill.

>> No.3279468

Is this thread dead? No developments for a while...

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3279479

I hope this sticks. I removed one Nuclear sub and added two research subs to the bay, because earlier attempts at doing so werent very successful

>> No.3279480

>>3279457
Feed it to Cthulhu and pray he doesn't mind digging in his cave.

We have plenty of energy/resources, what we need to do is expand into the seafloor. More labs in the caves.

>> No.3279482

>>3279457
Don't do it man! You'll anger him.

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3279495

Okay, I think this has all the new stuff in it. Double check it and if it's missing yours, let me know. I've also indicated our base location on the conference room's map screen.

>> No.3279497

>>3279480
Plan purpose for the labs before creating them. Lest you just have people struggling to think of uses for empty rooms.

>"And this can be the gerbil room!"

>> No.3279498

>>3279495
the new research subs I added. We have none, and two nuke subs is overkill

>> No.3279505

>>3279479

That's not oil, it's darkness. Also, that's the mouth of a sea cave, it's already full of water.

Some kind of oil extraction station is a good idea but try not to make it too obtrusive, covering up areas where other people might want to add rooms.

>>3279479

>>I hope this sticks. I removed one Nuclear sub and added two research subs to the bay, because earlier attempts at doing so werent very successful

We have two research subs docked to the main hub already. What we could really use is for someone to add more artistic detail to the nuclear subs. Something more futuristic. I might do it myself if nobody else wants to.

>> No.3279506

>>3279495
Swap that vertical "SCI" on the rocket to the one depicted in >>3279479

>> No.3279512

>>3279497
We put >>3279029 in one of the labs.


(And the gerbil room, of course.)

>> No.3279514

Hmm, still no observation tank? This depresses me.

>> No.3279520
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I propose cutting the map off like so to save from wasted space, and 'excessive' lab adding

>> No.3279525

>Swapped out my storage room for awesomly detailed research sub bay
;_;

Also: I thought we we're off Africa, that map has us off South America

>> No.3279531

The /fit/izen inside me demands an exercize room full of squat racks.

>> No.3279536

>>3279505
What way should I make the oil extraction rig, then? It'll be a large venture any way we construct it...

>> No.3279537

>>3279531
Cettle bells are better!

>> No.3279538

>>3279495
add my subrepair room!

>> No.3279541

I expect you can re-purpose the original room now that the place has been expanded.

>> No.3279547

>>3279541
Or at the very least, make the central hub taller. Navigating around these towers will be a bitch.

>> No.3279550

Is this the first of these you've done? Moon/Mars/asteroid versions would be great.

>> No.3279559

>Drilling into Cthulhu's cave
Well, that's it, we're all gonna die horribly.

>> No.3279560

Needs a research lab studying the rock that you're building on, research what it contains, what you can use it for, and develop those discoveries.

>> No.3279561

>>3279550
If we do this again, we're going to need to start with a good frame so we dont get all the awkward branchings like we do here. There isn't much flow to this lab

>> No.3279571

I like how there doesn't seem to be a kitchen.

>> No.3279572

Anyone thought of laundry?

>> No.3279575

>>3279571
There's no women.

>> No.3279576

>>3279572
....Fuck.

>> No.3279577
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3279577

GENTLEMEN: I give you the future of naval warfare, bio engineered battle subs. Made from the DNA of over 50 sea creatures, and cybernetically combined with a new type of reactor which runs off of the recently discovered red crystals (the organic parts run off of a nturient rich algae solution, as you can see is being pumped into them) these living weapons represent not only our first marketable product but an unbeatable edge against any corporate or national enemies that may emerge.

In order to advance our biotech any further, we'll need a genetics lab and a dedicated holding pen for organisms like these.

>> No.3279578

>>3279571
>implying there are no calories in booze.

>> No.3279585
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3279585

>>3277986
self sufficiency is now priority. We need hydroponics on a huge scale, using omega gardens.

http://www.omegagarden.com/

Add a huge tunnel with high percentage CO2 doubled air pressure with omega garden carosels, giving a constant supply of fresh produce for us to eat with all our tasty fish.

>> No.3279589

>>3279577
We shall fight with the power of WWHHHAAALLLLEEESSS!!!

>> No.3279592
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3279592

>>3279585
second. omega gardens are maximally efficient

>> No.3279597

>>3279578
...wat?

>> No.3279598
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3279598

Add a huge tunnel with high percentage CO2 doubled air pressure with omega garden carosels, giving a constant supply of fresh produce for us to eat with all our tasty fish.

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>>3279577
I have a picture for this, surprisingly enough.

>> No.3279611

>>3279598

Why not draw it yourself? You seem to know a great deal about how to design it. I'd gladly add it in when you're finished.

>> No.3279612

OMEGA garden running on AEROPONIS
just pump the room up with nutrient fog and c02

>> No.3279623

>>3279612
AWESOME

OMG IT SPINS

>> No.3279635

>>3279577
So the whale weapons.... ram things? Act as living torpedoes? Are pilotable ships?

>> No.3279637

>>3279623
the spinning shit allows you to use more surface area to grow per lightbuilb
the spinning also forces the plant to always straighten itself, making it grow like its on growth hormone.

>> No.3279653

>>3279637
Clever... very clever.

>> No.3279655

>>3279585
>self sufficiency is now priority.

agreed, fuck the surface completely. we have to generate our own oxygen... NASA says it takes ~7 liters of live algae to generate enough oxygen for 1 person. so we need 7 liters algae per person exposed to air in open tanks. Only then can we cut all ties to the surface.

WE HAVE TO GO DERPER

>> No.3279660

>>3279655
My business activities will suffer if we cut all ties to the surface. We need to maintain the ability to act as a financial center.

Maybe we can open up offices in our embassies in land-based nations?

>> No.3279664

Would it be acceptable to turn the strip club into a genetics lab? Or would that be blaspheme?

>> No.3279670

>>3279664
do it

>> No.3279679

guys, i'm surprised no one has mentioned this.

Our main problem is women. we need females. Because everyone on 4chan is caucasian, I humbly propose we bulk mail order brides from Russia, East asia, and North africa/middle east to insure long term genetic variation among our progeny.

note: (i am assuming we plan on destroying the surface based on the missile silo present in the design)

>> No.3279682

>>3279679
LET THE MALE TO FEMALE RATIO BE 1:2 AT LEAST

>> No.3279689

>>3279679
>destroying the surface
Lordy, no.

We are creating anew world order.

>> No.3279699
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3279699

>>3279682
A ratio of say, at least 10 females to each male would be ideal.

>>3279689
We also need the surface for its lucrative banking business and as customers for our high-value goods and raw materials.

I don't know about you, but I demand a luxury underwater villa, not some cramped apartment tube.

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3279704

>>3279689
>anew
Fuck.

Sorry.

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3279715

>>3279699
There's no need for it. I deny women my essence. are you aware of water fluoridation?

>> No.3279727

>>3279577
things we (you) need to do:
-replace all the doors and tunnels to nowhere with housing
-septic system
-dedicated algae farm
-trash disposal

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3279740

>>3279635

>>Are pilotable ships?

This. Their primary weapons are concentrated accoustic beams. Ever seen Blue Submarine No. 6?

P.S. Added underwater section to the cavern lab, with an ROV for sampling the stalactites.

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3279747

>>3279715
Why yes. I first became aware of the commie plot after the physical act of love.

>pic related, it's actually me
>go ahead, call me a faggot, you're just jelly

>> No.3279750

What about submarines and those things that are like underwater jet skis? Or will we be too deep for diving gear

>> No.3279762

>>3279750
>2011
>not using whales for underwater exploration

>> No.3279767

Mad Scientist

If this doesn't work

You're going to have to answer to the coca cola company

>> No.3279773

>>3279747
nice sweaty pits

>> No.3279776

>>3279773
Try visiting the USAF museum in July, you'll see.

>> No.3279788
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3279788

There doesn't appear to be any sort of Master Control Terminal or Artificial Intelligence for running the place.

>> No.3279795

>>3279788
What do you think is in the tower next to the infirmary?

>> No.3279797
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3279797

added solitary confinement chamber in case anyone gets extreme cabin fever

>> No.3279802

What's with all the tape drives? We building this back in 1940?

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3279804

>>3279788
No Karen Sjet in there?

>> No.3279806

>>3279795
communications

>> No.3279813
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>>3279727
>>-replace all the doors and tunnels to nowhere with housing

Those are there specifically to give people places to add onto.

>>-septic system

All human waste is ejected into the water and quickly consumed by bottom feeder fish. This happens irl and it's why very few historical habitats had toilets. They'd just go outside and let the fish eat it up. Not pretty, but very practical.

>>-dedicated algae farm

Got one, it's on top of the apartments.

>>-trash disposal

Done. Look below the weed farm module. Lower left of the rotating restaurant. You'll see the waste disposal chamber, containing a failed genetic experiment. Bad news is, it's horrifying. Good news is, it ravenously east garbage and nobody knows where the waste product goes.

>> No.3279816

>>3279802
they're only steam punk facades.

alternatively:
We are bond villains

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3279818

>>3279816
I approve of the latter.

>> No.3279819

Are these scientists vegetarians? I demand an In-N-Out

>> No.3279820
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>>3279788

Why are all trans/posthumans in sci-fi women or have womanlishy personalities?

Motoko, SHODAN, GLaDOS, Prime Intellect, Kalima of the Flowers, Kimiko Ross: Sure is religious divine mother imagery in here.

The only exception I can think of is HAL, but some of its behaviour was intended as a reference to Alan Turing who was gay and shit.

>> No.3279821

>>3279797
Why are there no storage rooms?

There should be some kind of storage warehouse. There also should be an armory of some kind.

>> No.3279827

>>3279819
I'll work on a farm tonight and post results tomorrow, whenever I find this thread.

>> No.3279828

>>3279820

Oh, and the Maschinenmensch from Metropolis, who even had, to top it all off, a pentagram on the wall behind its seat.

>> No.3279833

>>3279820
Nah, there are plenty of male voices
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ComputerVoice

>> No.3279840

>>3279821
Dude, we have whales with sound lasers.

I think we're good on the whole defense thing.

>> No.3279842

>>3279820
>>3279828
Most writers are male
Most writers write for author appeal
Most writers who write about artificial intelligences want to have robot girlfriends
Most writers know their target audience and most sci-fi target audiences are male


Take your pick.
Also robot women are hot

>> No.3279844

>>3279821
I made one but it didn't get put in for some reason

>> No.3279848

needs guns

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3279854

>>3279840

>>I think we're good on the whole defense thing.

How about supercavitating fighter subs? Pic related.

>> No.3279860

>>3279819
Bacon trees. in the tree dome

>> No.3279861

>>3279854
If you want me to get into the fighter subs argument, we can do this right here and now. This is not a threat, merely a warning.

>I can write for ages on the topic but suffice it to say that they're impractical despite what you might think.
>I've been approached by a captain in the ONI and asked to directly commission, if you need some kind of qualification

>> No.3279866

I love how we barely have any labs. Nice job, /sci/.

>> No.3279871

>>3279854
I think we should stick with a more 'biopunk' theme. How about swarms of pistol shrimp?

>> No.3279875

>>3279866
I HAVE NEEDS, DAMN YOU

>> No.3279900

>>3279861
You're hilarious.

>> No.3279907
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3279907

Okay, added a storage room. Let's have some other people draw sections!

>> No.3279911

>>3279871

How about squadrons of trained cyberdolphins?

And sharks with mind control implants, their bodies surgically stuffed with explosives? Suicide bomber sharks basically.

>> No.3279913

>>3279900
Yeah, it actually IS hilarious to those that might have been unfortunate enough to witness a thread some time back with someone prattling on endlessly about their anime fantasies as though they were military reality.


Granted, we've just built a multi-billion dollar undersea "research base" with engineered whales, a space program, two marijuana farms, a bar, a strip club, a luxury restaurant, and an arboretum for some reason. All this and we still have like two actual labs.

>Yes, maybe I was getting carried away.
>It's the internet argument PTSD getting the better of me, the memories of the stupid are painful.

>> No.3279927

>>3279866

>implying there is shit to research about underwater

Somebody start an orbital space station.

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>> No.3279936

>>3279911
The dolphins have utility in harbors, littoral environments, and areas near the surface... we don't have much use for them.

The fastest shark in the sea couldn't keep up with a modern sub moving at max speed. However, subs generally don't move at high speeds for fear of cavitating. Sharks, if controllable, would be very very good weapons for "suicide" attacks.

Why fuck with some innocent sharks though? Why not use some kind of bio-mechanical fish-like robot designed from the ground up to be a weapon?

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3279939

>>3279927

>>Implying there's shit to research in orbit
>>Implying Mars and the moon aren't barren, radiation blasted deserts
>>Implying the sea isn't a lot like space in the good ways, except you find lots of new lifeforms instead of none, ever

Pic related, illustrative comparison.

>> No.3279948

>>3279935
It's great OP. The lab is pretty cool. Good job.

>> No.3279956

The space shuttle has one thing that I haven't noticed so far: exercise equipment,. Cardiovascular health may be rather important including servicing the outside or performing tasks not suited for rovers.

Oh, and also a pig farm. What is society without bacon?

>> No.3279960

I am somewhat interested in why fighter subs are not practical. Would you please explain?

>> No.3279961

>>3279936
Case in point, >>3279609

>> No.3279967

>>3279960
I assume he was referring to the supercavitation aspect of the subs.

>> No.3279971

Dwarf Fortress-fag here.

I demand a room 5 feet high, about half a mile square, and fucking full of stone tables and chairs. Legendary Dining Hall.

>> No.3279975

>>3279967

Ours can be driven using the red crystal reactor technology. Solid state electric underwater propulsion with no moving blades or exhaust. It's an intensely powerful diamagnetic monopole.

(50% bullshit star trek pseudoscience, 50% truefax. Wiki 'diamagnetics'.)

>> No.3279976

Another green plants/mushroom dome.
A lecture theatre. Good for movies and ballots.

>> No.3279988
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3279988

Holy shit, I've been lurking in on this project since the beginning. Wow, /sci/ you guys sure can work together.

Also saw the Costco Project you did earlier, Mad Scientist. Any other future projects in the works?

>> No.3279992

>>3279967
Yes.

>> No.3279993

>>3279988

>>Also saw the Costco Project you did earlier, Mad Scientist. Any other future projects in the works?

>:3c

>> No.3279996

>>3279975
So, in addition to the red crystals, have we found something useful towards our more genetic-y experiments? Near the cave with the big red glowing eyes of doom, perhaps?

>> No.3280000
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3280000

GuyWhoAddedTheRocketRoomHere

I had worked on a cargo loading/unloading room last night, but someone already beat me to it's location.

Any alternations would be appreciated.

>> No.3280012

>>3280000
Firstly, dem quads.

Secondly, I say we get rid of the strip club and replace it with the conference room.

>> No.3280013

>>3280000
isnt that too big for the new cave research roboter room?

how will the boxes get transported? they are too huge for the corridors.

make the storage room smaller and the boxes.

>> No.3280030

>>3280013
>>3280012
I second both of these.

>> No.3280039

>>3279960
If this turns into a giant argument, let the record show I am doing this grudgingly.

You need to power these things. You either need a nuke reactor (which regardless of miniaturization will still be pretty damn big and heavy) or some kind of AIP system, which would severely limit range.

To get the advantage of speed/maneuverability, you need to supercavitate. This means carrying along a lot of gas to create your bubble, getting gas from the water around you, or carrying your gas as a fluid. Either way you do things, you'll need bulky equipment that adds MORE size/weight to your sub; be it compressors, electrolysis machines, cryogenic storage for liquefied gas, or bulky tanks of compressed gas.

How much range do you expect this thing to have if it's fighter sized? The ocean's a big place. Any pilot spending more than a day or so in there is going to get really uncomfortable really quickly. Modern tanks feature extremely comfortable (design permitting) furnishings to improve crew performance/endurance.

A modern torpedo of any military utility is 6 meters long and weighs 1600 kg. How many do you think a fighter sized vessel is going to carry?

All of this ultimately boils down to the same reasons space fighters are impractical. If you're going to stick enough mass onto something to make it militarily useful, it's not going to really be the fighter you wanted. If you're going to strip it down for the perceived advantages, it's not going to be militarily useful.

Using such hypothetical craft for suicide missions is one thing, as is the utility of a USV... but why go to all that trouble just for a bulked up torpedo that can "MIRV" itself? Ultimately, if your interest is to build a navy that can fight, sub-fighters are not in your best interests.

>> No.3280040

>>3280013

To be honest, those were the only pre-made crate sprites I could find. The *idea* was that they could be maneuvered underwater, through the pressure vault, stacked in the large chamber, and then UNboxed, and the equipment/food could be moved to whichever room needed it.

BUT, like I said, I'm VERY open to alterations.

>> No.3280042

All of you who draw this thing: You rock!

>> No.3280049

>>3280039
But we have red crystals.

>> No.3280107

>>3280049
red crystal = philosopher's stone

>> No.3280115

How about we put a gym in right above the drill?
I'd draw it myself, but I'm on a phone.

>> No.3280122
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3280122

Whew, okay. Found a place to add that cargo room where the cargo sub wouldn't have to be inside Cthulu's chamber to get at it. Integrated it with the other cargo room, added a sub lock for loading shipments, and some forklifts.

>> No.3280136

What if the ship was remote controlled?

>> No.3280147

>>3280136
I think it'd still be easier to have a torpedo that shoots other torpedoes.

>> No.3280152
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>>3277986
>a Thorium reactor
can i put my bed right on top of it?
shit's probably nice and warm
this is how the nuclear engineer on old nuclear subs slept, right on top of the reactor, and part of his duties was to walk up and down the galleys with his film badge in full view. if there was any kind of leak, the entire crew would know

also where is the reactor in that image

>> No.3280155

Threads like this is why you have to be over 21 to drink.

>> No.3280156

Better. But the boxes are still bigger than the submarines.

>> No.3280158

>>3280147
Good plan. I like your style.

What if we just put an oil reserve under the base? And is this lab eco friendly? I think we need energy star certified appliances.

>> No.3280159
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3280159

I used my powers of OCD to improve the conference room map.

>> No.3280166

>>3279804

No its not big enough for a hiijaran mothership

and why did they never put weapons on that thing

>> No.3280168

Needs a large hadron collider.

>> No.3280170

>>3280147
It's a hell of a plan, but guidance becomes an issue.

If you can miniaturize the guidance or only have it separate during terminal phase, beautiful. Remember though that you need enough explosive power to cause overpressure underneath or near the hull of a ship... sufficient overpressure to crack it.

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>>3280168
>building a 12 mile diameter particle accelerator underwater

>> No.3280177

Sure are a lot of small rooms with clocks in them.

>> No.3280179

>>3280158
>eco-friendly
We're making death whales that eat garbage with Cthulhu DNA.

We're waaaaaay past eco-friendly.

>> No.3280180

>>3280174

I do not know why they did not build it underwater in the first place

no drilling

>> No.3280192

>>3280152
still looking for the LFTR on that image.
dun see no drain tanks, turbines, processing systems, nothin.
don't tell me you slapped the whole thing in a big can and put cation tape on it! that kills half the fun!

>> No.3280193

>>3280174
It's the FUCKING SEA. It's huge.
>Captcha: DONALD stratu

fuck you donald.

>> No.3280198

>>3280170
Still, may be possible in the not-too-distant future.

>> No.3280206
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3280206

Added a long-range SONAR array

>filename reads "radar"

>> No.3280208

>>3277986
>Not building this in the sky and use it as a ISS in the sky.

costanza.jpg

>> No.3280222
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3280222

Okay, new world map added along with supply subs bringing crates of food, equipment, etc.

>> No.3280230

>>3280222
Shouldn't we get a mining rig or two for our red-crystallium?

>> No.3280236

>>3280208
The sky comes next.

>> No.3280238

>>3280222

>Wood Crates
>Underwater
>DERP

I'm really sorry, guys.

>> No.3280243

>>3280222
>finally find LFTR on map
>couple tanks and a turbine
i got some editing work to do

>>3280206
sonar doesn't look like radar panels, it's usually more like a cylinder with very small cells spaced around it

>> No.3280244

>>3280236
Good. Because i hate to say this, but the sea really freaks me the fuck out.

>> No.3280246

>>3280238
It's artificial wood!

>> No.3280249
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3280249

>>3280243
I made that LFTR

>> No.3280253

>>3280244
Fair enough. Shit's Lovecraftian, yo.

>> No.3280255

>>3280198
Yup, which is why I didn't rule it out right away.

It would still require advances in non-nuclear explosives and miniaturization of guidance systems, but it's possible.

Note to everyone: a supercavitating torpedo is VERY LOUD, LIKE LOUDER THAN BILLY MAYS WITH CAPS LOCK ON. Their range is also pretty limited. If you get close enough to fire it, everyone knows where you are. Everyone has longer ranged weapons that you. You cannot run that fast without cavitating, and then not only is your immediate prior location known but you can now be tracked.

If you shoot one, you stand a change of killing a target, but the probability is nearly 1 that you will be killed.

>> No.3280258

So where's the lab where we create horrific monstrous fishmen slaves?

>> No.3280261

>>3280258
That will be appearing in the next episode of Dr. Who.

>> No.3280262
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3280262

>>3280243

SONAR/RADAR combination bullshit tech then.

>> No.3280265

>>3280258
bioengineering, level 5 pod D i believe.

>> No.3280273

>>3280253
No. Literally, the Sea creeps me out. That depth picture freaked me out that was posted on here really creeped me out.

>> No.3280275

>>3280255
So what you are saying is we need lasers instead of explosives or some magnet technology?

Underwater Sea Lab 2020 would be an awesome game.

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>>3280177

Okay, sonar array added. I chose a spot that won't obstruct new modules, but still makes sense (The biosub bay and repair bay are going to be part of a military base I plan to stick right on top of both.)

>>3280206

>>Sure are a lot of small rooms with clocks in them.

Decompression chambers. Necessary any place you're going from the main base (1 atmosphere) to a section that is directly exposed to the outside pressure.

>> No.3280301

>>3280255
You wouldn't happen to know if it was possible to distract a submarine, would you?

>> No.3280303

wtf is artificial wood?

i like the sonar array.

>> No.3280308

Is this thread on autosage?

>> No.3280310

>>3280255

>>If you shoot one, you stand a change of killing a target, but the probability is nearly 1 that you will be killed.

Suppose the fighter subs sneak up on the enemy sub via standard stealth impellers until in firing positions, then they all fire magnetic torpedos simultaneously, then use their supercav drives to rapidly escape? The enemy sub would be struck by at least most of the magnetic charges, which would not explode until the fighters departed, and the enemy sub couldn't fire upon them all. It might get one or two, but in a few seconds the rest would be gone, and the magnetic charges would explode.

>> No.3280317

those cargo boxes suck big time.
they have a really really bad flow cross-section.
remove them completely?

>> No.3280318

>>3280310
I would propose making a new thread, Mad Scientist.

>> No.3280327

>>3280310
You'd need VERY good intelligence and VERY quiet submersibles to catch a full sized sub on its patrol route.

All modern military subs undergo degaussing to prevent being vulnerable to magnetic mines. This isn't to mention the anti-sonar coating that also impairs magnetic fields from interacting with the boat's hull.

>> No.3280338

So about the supercavitating torpedo that shoots miniature versions of itself, why not have it slowly go on out for a couple of minutes while your sub turns around and starts running. You time it so that the torpedo and sub start cavitating at the same time.

Also, I would expect that if you are using the SC torpedoes that all hell has already broken loose and there is no point in hiding any more.

>> No.3280378

Okay, the new thread is active:

>>3280374