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3242225 No.3242225 [Reply] [Original]

what actual evidence is there for the holocaust besides testimonials?

the evidence ive heard against it: testing for poison on wall revealed very small levels, no ashes in the soil at any of the camps, a lot of the pictures used are fake, and the population of jews in europe before ww2 was 6 million and again 6 million after

>> No.3242228

>>>/new/

>> No.3242239

[citation needed]

>> No.3242240

There's no point wasting time with this debate. the holocaust irrefutably happened.

If you need to do something, read up on : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism_versus_intentionalism

>> No.3242253

can anyone point to some real evidence? ive never heard of any except for testimonials

>> No.3242268

More than 3 eyewitnesses counts as evidence

>> No.3242280

>>3242268
yea i already mentioned that

is that all?

>> No.3242309

weird, i thought there would be actual evidence but i couldnt find any online

>> No.3242318

>>3242280
yeah, how about Nuremberg Trials where the Nazi's admitted to what they were doing?

>> No.3242329
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3242329

Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows - at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example - as many as traffic allows.

Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.


— Adolf Hitler, 1922. (Josef Hell, "Aufzeichnung," 1922, ZS 640, p. 5, Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte. http://www.ifz-muenchen.de/archiv/zs/zs-0640.pdf Translation at Nizkor)

>> No.3242336

>>3242318
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/nuremberg.htm

start here.

I actually did a paper on this and how the holocaust was so closely related and inspired by the persecution of the Native Americans.

>> No.3242346

>>3242318
werent they convicted of crimes even before they were put on trial?

>> No.3242352

>>3242346
don't know, show me a source.

>> No.3242363

>>3242329
thats not evidence of the holocaust but a good find nonetheless

>> No.3242366
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3242366

Oh, i dunno, how about the thousands and thousands of dead people?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19053913/ns/world_news-europe/t/mass-holocaust-grave-unearthed-ukraine/

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>>3242366

>> No.3242429

>>3242336
>>3242318
im looking over the quotes in the trial and im not seeing any of them admit they killed 6 millions jews. im seeing a lot of "we let jews go" or "if that is true, it is a terrible attrocity (the holocaust)" and "this is just a political trial" or "hitler was a liar and evil" "the only thing you have on me is that i broke the versailles treaty"

things like that

>> No.3242449

>>3242366
That's less than a thousand people, I estimate about 400

Shouldn't there be thousands more unique photos like that?

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3242452

>>3242366
not to mention the thousands of people who survived and lived to tell about it.

http://isurvived.org/TOC-III.html

>> No.3242460

>>3242429
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/suzkevertest.html

>> No.3242465

>>3242452
Holocaust survivors are evidence that few jews were killed, not many. Besides, there are many many false testimonies from people who wanted to get in on the holocaust guilt speaking tour business.

>no physical evidence
>make outrageous claims
>torture low level germans until they confess
Stay classy Jews

>> No.3242472

>>3242366
good post, but im not seeing any source and theres no confirmation of mass graves or anything found on wikipedia except from the communists

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3242474

>Coming to /sci/
>Disputing facts

Sage

>> No.3242477

>>3242429
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/vaillanttest.html

>> No.3242487

>>3242465

How many?

>> No.3242490

>>3242449
Yes. There are camps and mass graves all throughout Europe. The evidence is overwhelming, regardless of what poison levels someone tested on a wall. Also I would like to know your sources for saying the Jewish population remained the same.

>> No.3242491

Jews suck. If there is a God Hitler would have killed them. Therefore holocaust.

>> No.3242505

>>3242490
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14786957,00.html

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3242522

>not saging retarded Amerifat threads

Wtf is wrong with you guys

>> No.3242543

>>3242460
cool post but thats a testimonial from the victims not from the nazis

>> No.3242546

>>3242465
Holocaust survivors all tell about how hundreds and hundreds of their fellow inmates where killed every day in the camps. And it's not a few isolated accounts. It a massive conglomeration of independent testimonials that all point at the exact same thing.

>> No.3242566

>>3242505
why do these mass graves in eastern europe keep coming out without any details or sources? a lot of the pictures of mass graves used in propaganda against the nazis were confirmed to be from the communist murders, these "unmarked graves" could be the same thing. how do we know theyre from nazis?

>> No.3242567

>>3242543
German president apologizes for the holocaust

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/english/200002/17/eng20000217W110.html

I'm still waiting for the links to back up your claims about the Jewish population

>> No.3242590

>>3242566
there are also graves in Germany

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15147988/ns/world_news-europe/t/germany-uncovers-nazi-era-mass-grave/

Give me the source of your claim that the photos where faked.

>> No.3242602

>>3242566
please, leave, this is /sci/ . /sci/ is a science board.
jews aren't science.
neither is the holocaust.

you are only here, because you crave validation. and by arguing with us you have a false sense of validation. go back to whatever egotistical circlejerking community you came from.

>> No.3242637

>>3242546
>every day
Nobody says that besides the people who lie and sensationalize. I agree that hundreds and hundreds of Jews died in the Holocaust

>> No.3242645

>>3242490
http://www.holywar.org/S35.htm

this page has sourced data from the world almanac

>> No.3242647

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else.

>> No.3242652

>>3242647
>heroin

>> No.3242660

>>3242329
ok i loled

>> No.3242662

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

>> No.3242664

Next they're going to say slavery never existed in America

>> No.3242671
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3242671

>>3242590
here are some, were you wondering about a particular photo?

>> No.3242678

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

>> No.3242679

>>3242664
the first slave owner in america and in world history was black. i know you like being ignorant and believing everything MTV tells you, but when you go online expect your fairy tale to be challenged

>> No.3242683

>>3242567
And this is supposed to prove what?

>> No.3242684

>>3242664
it didn't, that is just what african sympathizers want you to think, just look now, we have a black president

>> No.3242688

>>3242684
>sarcasm
also, i forgot to sage, my apologies.

this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

>> No.3242689

holy shit

>> No.3242693

>>3242688
forgot to sage again, fuck this thread, i'm out.

>> No.3242695

>>3242645
on that site there is a chart that says the population of European Jews went from 9.37 million in 1948 to 3.42 million in 1955. thats about 6 million Jews missing. How does this back up your claim?

>> No.3242699

>>3242679
i like how you completely ignored the point of the post.

citation needed

>> No.3242702

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective...maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

>> No.3242705

>>3242472
Wouldn't the link he posted be a source...?

>> No.3242707

>>3242671

That's nice and all but are there any sources for these claims? Like I don't know, some historians confirming that these are in fact russian soldiers?

>> No.3242708

>>3242699
i know what the point of the post was, to circle jerk with your brainwashed buddies about lies fed to you and how anyone who challenges them is a looney

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

enjoy your source. first slave owner in america, a black man

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3242713

there is no longer a need to discuss this since /sci/ has presented clear evidence to the holocaust occurring, please sage and continue on with your day. Remember, all fields.

>> No.3242715

>>3242695
please read the whole site and dont just look at the pretty graphs

>> No.3242721

Hey OP, That link you sent did not prove that the Jewish population did not change. In fact, it proves that six million Jews were missing from Europe after the war. Maybe you should analyze your sources before you decide to believe in what they are claiming?

>> No.3242723

>>3242713
just email fields new friend

>> No.3242725

>>3242707
you dont need a source for half of them, the original picture is posted beside the fake. and for the other half, well i guess you have to do your own confirmation because i doubt any historian is going to make specific claims about specific pictures. why not ask where is the proof that this building is burning because of anti-semitism? where is the proof that the bodies in this picture are from nazi camps?

>> No.3242741

>>3242721
are you mentally disabled or something? it shows 600,000 jew decline in europe in the encyclopedia britannica and almost no change in world wide jewish population in the world almanac, all sourced.

>> No.3242753

look we get that hitler is your masochistic dream hero, but coming to /sci/ and challenging 'scientists' who , like yourself, weren't even alive for the events. In the hopes of what, changing the outcome? Making him seem like a nicer fellow? Exposing some super secret conspiracy based on a 'religious' group? It's not like this is even a debate, your so well cemented in what you 'believe' to be true that nothing we say, no facts we provide, is gonna change it in the slightest, why waste our time.

>> No.3242759

>>3242741
You mean 6 000 000. I read your site. It does not produce any conclusive evidence that any of these claims are true, and it fails to explain what happened to 6 000 000 jews in Europe between 1948 and 1955. I have tried to engage you in an intelligent debate, not so much for your sake but for my own, but if you are going to pretend that 600 000 is the same as 6 000 000 then we no longer have anything to discuss here. good day sir.

>> No.3242775

>>3242759
are you fucking retarded or just trolling? the war ended in 1948, there were 15.75 jews worldwide at this time. in 1955 there were 11.65 million jews worldwide. this is a difference of 4 million. the population of jews grew in other countries during this time and declined in europe. keep in mind the war had already ended (and there were 15.75 million jews at the time it ended), israel was created, etc.

look at 1988 to 1994, there was a 5 million jew reduction worldwide. thats more than the one youre complaining about, i suppose hitler got rid of them too?

>> No.3242786

>>3242759
you also missed the part where the world almanac shows 1947 and 1949 poopulation of jews STILL at 15 million

>> No.3242789

>>3242775

WW2 ended in 1945 dude.

>> No.3242792

>>3242708
Thank you for that
but what i don't get is why you identified that the first slave owner in Virginia, (not America) was black.
good thing to know nonetheless.
And second there is a mountain of evidence supporting it.
it's not the same as discrediting a UFO sighting

>> No.3242794

>>3242789
woops, youre right i was thinking of 1938 when it started, this just lends even more credibility to my side of the argument though

>> No.3242798

Plus your site compares worldwide Jew populations from 1947 and from 1963. Thats a 16 year gap that they omitted. They have omitted the time period that is most relevant to proving or disproving their claim.

>> No.3242809

>>3242798
man, what the fuck are you talking about? stop pulling shit out of your ass. its the most important time period because you say so? hurr durr

stop looking at pretty graphs faggot and do some reading. there are statistics and sources posted for the 1920s 1930s 1940s, 1950s and 1960s

>> No.3242811

>>3242789
That still doesn't explain the missing 6 million Jews between the two time periods I mentioned.

the charts show a Jewish population of 9.49 million in 1933

and 3.42 million in 1955

And this is on a page trying to DISPROVE the holocaust

>> No.3242814

I love how holocaust skeptics throw all this evidence at how the camps couldnt have possibly killed all the jews, and then conveniently forget all the jews who didnt even have the oppurtunity to make it to a camp. Most jews that died during the nazis reign were shot in the streets, in the homes, beat to death by citizens, and diseased or starved in the camps before they were exterminated. All of Europe Asia Africa and the middle east were fucked, the governments were executing dissenters at will. To say that something like this couldnt happen and didnt happen is just ridiculous. Sure I believe the jews have been conspiring since their inception, but obviously so are the ones who were the loudest in exclaiming these conspiracies. The holocaust was simply a reaction to all the hostility towards the jews. And it's pretty funny how people are trying to use the extermination of the jews to justify their extermination today.

>> No.3242817

>>3242811
im just going to ignore you because youre either trolling or youre just plain retarded

>> No.3242819

>>3242814
>a bunch of emotional arguments and imaginary scenarios
>hurr hurr to say this didnt happen is just ridiciliz hurr

>> No.3242821

>>3242817
>im just going to ignore you because i cant think of a valid response and i want to stay in my comfortable bubble of opinions

>> No.3242822

>>3242819
>imaginary scenarios
>implying ww2 didnt happen
>emotional arguments
>facts are now considered emotions

>> No.3242825

>>3242821
i already responded to you, the pretty little graph youre fixated on shows a 600,000 decline, not 6 million. there is no 6 million figure anywhere else. now go feel bad about being such a retard

>> No.3242828

>>3242809
I see a graph, and I see some points they have plotted and there is a point from Encyclopedia Brittanica that shows that the worldwide Jew population dropped by about 6 million after the war. And then there is some text that says the population stayed the same. But no data whatsoever from ANY sources to back this up.

>> No.3242829

>>3242825
>implying the same person was responding to you

>> No.3242830

>>3242814
Fun fact, in Eastern Europe a lot of Jews were killed by the other locals when the Germans rolled in because they were snitching on them to the Soviets. The Germans just didnt give a fuck.

>> No.3242838

Are yurotrash denying their savage sub human past again?

How typical. It's bad enough you stray from religion and morality.

>> No.3242839

>>3242825
Every single piece of data your site uses as an argument to back up its claims show a drop of 6 million. Ergo, the claims your site are making have no basis on any facts or data. Like I said, if you can't do simple arithmetic to see that the data shows this, we can no longer have any discussion because you are not being logical and you are not presenting any evidence that backs up your claim.

>> No.3242841

>>3242830
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that the locals were doing the germans job for them. We all know that the terms "efficient" and "german" have nothing to do with each other.

>> No.3242842

Didn't read the whole thread, but OP -
Did you ever read Mein Kampf?
Nuremberg Trials?
Wannsee Conference?

also, your original post has a mistake- before WW2 there were around 9 millions jews, and after around 2-3

>> No.3242860

>>3242225

Uh well there's motive present, there's means present, and Hitler was certainly charismatic enough to force things he wanted done through the bureaucratic pipeline. Perhaps the figures from the camps are lower than is commonly stated but frankly Hitler still bathed Europe in a conflagration of war so the Holocaust title really still does apply.

>> No.3242874

>>3242842
>Nuremberg Trials

Google what the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court at the time, Harlan F. Stone had to say about the trials then shit bricks.

>> No.3242889

>>3242874

His viewpoint wasn't that the Holocaust never happened or that the Nazis weren't murderous faggots, it's that we fucked up the legal system in order to get the prosecution of these shitheads done with and through. As I recall he was also basically the only judge who wanted a trial for the Nazis too.

>> No.3242895

>>3242839
>>3242828
you all need to get your eyes or your braind checked. that graph shows a drop of 4 million at 1955 and thats just from encyclopedia britannica. the world almanac and other sources show the jewish population at over 15 million all the way up to 1951 (thats a full 6 years after the war). i thought /sci/ claimed to be intelligent? these idiots cant even read text or, worse still, pretty little graphs

i suppose the 5 million reduction in the 90s was from hitler too?

>> No.3242905

>>3242889
oh you mean we lied about the evidence or disregarded the legal system in order to push an agenda? whoa thats totally better

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>>3242895
1948 european jewish population: 9.37million
1955 european jewish population: 3.42million

any questions?

(these figures are all taken from a page that OP linked to me that "proves" that the holocaust was a hoax)

http://www.holywar.org/S35.htm

link to said page. go and see for yourself.

>> No.3242923

>>3242905

I'm saying we disregarded the legal system which in my eyes is worse, but you have to understand there was absolutely no public desire for a trial beyond a bandana and a bullet. Personally I'm inclined to say "you get what you get" in regards to Germany. You try and shake up the status quo and fail twice, you basically deserve what comes on afterward. Is that unethical? Yeah, under most metrics it is.

>> No.3242924

>>3242889

He called it what it was, a sham, therefore claiming the Nuremberg trials as proof of anything is fallacious.

>> No.3242927

>>3242920
oh i get it, youre just trolling because i already responded to that about 5 times. okay never mind then.

>> No.3242931

>>3242924
Can you give me a link? I'm very interested to read what he said but I can't find any direct quotes of his about the trials.

>> No.3242949

>>3242927
refresh my memory

how did you refute the presented data as being false?

>> No.3242959

>>3242931

His wiki page briefly mentions it, but his views are laid out in his biography "Harlan Fiske Stone: Pillar of the Law"

>> No.3242961

>>3242814
Evidence, or shut the fuck up, apologist.

>> No.3242968

seriously?

>> No.3242969

>>3242949
sure but this is the last time. i told you if you stop fixating yourself on the pretty graphs and read right below them, youll see world almanacs and other sources going all the way into the 1950s showing the worldwide jewish population remaining at 15 million. as you know the war ended in 1945. israel had been created since then, and other countries including israel were gaining greater jewish populations. a reduction in 4 million jews worldwide in almost a decade after the war is not as crazy as youre trying to make it sound. again, keep in mind that all this time the population had been counted and was NOT reduced. in the 1990s the population of jews shrank by an even higher number, 5 million. is this hitlers fault too?

>> No.3242974

>>3242949
> the world almanac and other sources show the jewish population at over 15 million all the way up to 1951

read the top of the chart I posted >>3242920 here

> the pretty little graph youre fixated on shows a 600,000 decline, not 6 million

Again, look at the chart >>3242920

Any questions? Are we all pretty much convinced that OP is either brain damaged or trolling?

>> No.3242993

>>3242920
by 1948 the war was already over, perhaps the almanac didn't have up to date figures? I imagine that they would be hard to gather right after the holocaust

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>> No.3243000

>>3242974
oh ok so youre just proving youre a troll now to anyone who can read the post above yours. cool, now we can all ignore you.

>> No.3243003

>>3242993
read the text, there is data all the way into the 1950s showing the population at 15 million

>> No.3243030

>>3242969
Ok lets say you are right. 5.95 million European Jews vanished in a 7 year time period. On average, thats 850 000 a year. thats 2329 people every day... just vanishing into thin air. How can you explain this?

>> No.3243036

so in summary:

no evidence of anything except testimonials from jews under the advisory of jewish lawyers during the trials and mass graves that could have belonged to the communist russians

>> No.3243040

>>3242225
Why would they put poison on the walls if they were giving it to the jews? you fucking idiot.

>> No.3243042

>>3243030
it wasnt a 7 year period, it was a 4 year period. the statistics go all the way into 1951 showing the population at 15 million. the 11.5 million figure is at 1955. thats 4 years. this makes it even more ridiculous. i cant explain it, but some jews did go to other countries and to israel, this we know for sure.

>> No.3243045

>>3243040
poison residue is from delousing

>> No.3243053

>>3243036
You have only made speculations that fly directly in the face of all the evidence you have attempted to present. When asked to produce evidence of your claims, you cannot present any data that solidifies your claim. Not only that, but you deliberately ignore any and all evidence that is put in front of you that refutes your claim.

>> No.3243055

wow this /new/ is still here?

reported

>> No.3243056

If there are so many evidencies everywhere, why do you have to get an approval by the Zentralrat der Juden if you want to perform research in any form?

>> No.3243058

>>3243042
> the statistics go all the way into 1951 showing the population at 15 million

show me

>> No.3243066

>>3243058
show you? its right under the graphs, jesus christ this board is full of idiots


World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 - 15,300,000

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3243076

>be fifteen
>want to be unique
>say the holocaust didn't happen
>ask for evidence
>get provided evidence
>ignore it and pretend like nobody ever gave it
>eventually show that you actually believe the holocaust didn't happen regardless of the evidence provided

/new/: the game

>> No.3243081

A similar argument is sometimes used that claims gas was not used to murder Jews and other victims, and that many gas chambers were also built after the war just for show. A document advancing this theory is the Leuchter report by Fred A. Leuchter, a paper stating that only traces of cyanide were found when he examined samples taken from one of the Auschwitz gas chambers in 1988. This is often cited as evidence that gas was not used in the chambers, as no trace amounts remain. Despite the difficulty of finding traces of this material 50 years later, in February, 1990, Professor Jan Markiewicz, Director of the Institute of Forensic Research in Kraków, redid the analysis.[32] Markiewicz and his team used microdiffusion techniques to test for cyanide in samples from the suspected gas chambers, from delousing chambers, and from control areas elsewhere within Auschwitz. The control samples tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in high concentrations in the delousing chambers, and lower concentrations in the homicidal gas chambers. This is consistent with the amounts required to kill lice and humans

>> No.3243089

>>3243066

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population- 15,713,638

World Almanac, 1955, World Jewish Population 11.63 Million


and I'm sorry, but the Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches, USA is not a reliable source.

>> No.3243096

>not having reported this thread

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>> No.3243105

>>3243096
Fuck yeah, I'm not the only one.

>> No.3243122

>>3243089
>>3243089

thats 680 000 jews disappearing of the face of the earth per year.

thats 1863 people per day

And this is even when offset by birthrates.

explain this

>> No.3243160

> hate Jews
> agree with what Hitler did
> claim he never did it

I'll never understand you holocaustdenialfags. Why defend dead Nazis anyway?

I wonder if, fifty years from now, people will claim that the World Trade Center never existed and claim all photos of it are fake.

>> No.3243196

Well for a start my grandfather is a violent racist. He pretty much hates anyone who isn't white and anyone who doesn't speak English.

And yet he recalls how terrible he felt when he, as a member of the British Army, had to bulldoze hundreds of corpses into mass graves because their bodies were rotting and the Germans had left them out in the sun for the birds. He has no reason to lie about that.

Anyway, the only two problems with the holocaust and its teachings are:

The idea that every member of the German military/state apparatus was somehow responsible and everyone in Germany hated Jews.

and

Only Jews are focused on when teaching the Holocaust. Way, way more many Russians and other Slavic people died because of who they were - the Jews simply made more noise about it afterward.

>> No.3243215

>>3243196
>had to bulldoze hundreds of corpses into mass graves because their bodies were rotting and the Germans had left them out in the sun for the birds

Wasn't that because the Nazi's retreated and left the prisoner's/jews still locked up and many then starved to death before allied forces reached them?

>> No.3243231

>>3242225
>testing for poison on wall revealed very small levels

So you'd expect that after 70 years, there would be huge amounts of poison? But more importantly, if poison wasn't used there it would be on the walls anyways?

>> No.3243241

>>3243215
> Germans had left them out in the sun for the birds
> Wasn't that because the Nazi's retreated and left the prisoner's/jews still locked up

>still locked up

>out in the sun

nice reading comprehension, bro

>> No.3243255

if you are too lazy to do your own research then why complain when people show you evidence.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_da.php?ModuleId=10007271&MediaId=5617

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>> No.3243263

Misaka's Railgun is actually incapable of causing the amount of destruction shown in the anime. Assuming that the arcade coins, which are similar in size to a 500-yen coin, weigh 7 grams. (The weight of a 500 yen coin[1]) When fired at a velocity of 1030 m/s, the kinetic energy of the coins, given by the formula mv2/2, (In which m is mass in Kg, and v is the velocity in m/s.)[2] is only 3713.15 Joules. (.007x10302/2 ) Which is around the same amount of kinetic energy as a .280 Remington round fired at 861 m/s. (3,700 Joules)[3]But this is disputable since a thrown coin does a rotational linear movement (not a simple linear movement), its kinetic energy value should be Iω2/2 + mv2/2 (as I is the moment of inertia and ω is the angular velocity)[4]. Anyway, ω's value has never been specified in both the light novels and the anime, therefore it is impossible to know Miasaka's railgun's true power. Somehow, it is assumed that she can control the railgun's destructive power by changing the value of ω, as she claimed not using her whole power during the ability examination in Volume 8 and during her fight against Sogiita Gunha in Toaru Jihanki no Sonzai Shoumei in which she held back her railgun's power at 30% (despite the fact her railgun's linear velocity is always estimated to be 1030m/s).

>> No.3243264

>>3243241
Derp, Prisons have fences and gates. Prisoners are not confined to solid wall buildings.
Think the survivors would keep the dead inside where they had to sleep?

>Nice being a fucking moron who cannot into logic

>> No.3243276

>>3243215

Mainly.

Many of them were free to roam about the camp. He had to shoot two of them personally who were beyond medical help.

Oh and cool story, when the SS retreated and the British got there - all the prisoners ran amok and started killing each other. Pretty much every nationality and religion was represented there with no food to compete over and they killed each other in droves.

>> No.3243348

>>3243160
>why want factual accounts of history? hurr durr

>> No.3243359

>>3243276
>>3243196
And this is proof of the holocaust how? Everyone knows the Nazis had prisoners and that when the Allies cut off their supplies many of them starved or were diseased. That's not what the holocaust is.

Any other stories from your gramps though? I'm curious.