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[Anonymous No.3240394]

/sci/,
Would you say it's worth spending time at an average-decent university, which is nowhere near the top 10 - gaining a BA in Law or International Relations or would the time would be better spent getting a vocational degree (QQ me dumb)

[Anonymous No.3240397]

On the same note - is a BA in anything worth the time and student debt?

[Anonymous No.3240407]

On the same note - is anything worth anything?

[Anonymous No.3240408]

Student debt? What is that? Why would... oh, Americans. Aren't you cute?

[Anonymous No.3240413]

>>3240397

Are you from the UK OP becuase if you are unless you're going to a top 10 university doing outstanding course (Maths, Chemistry, Physics, History etc...) Your degree isn't going to pay for itself easily. Your best bet would be to get onto an internship or a 'earn while you learn' course with a company where they train you and pay you. From then it is very easy to move up the ladder.

People will say because you lack a degree there is only so far you can go, but with the rise in tuition fee's you will find a larger proportion of people not going to university or the more lacking courses will fold therefore more and more people are going to be without degree's nulifying the 'need a degree' crap

[Technical masturbation No.3240417]

Well..on that note.

I have my BS in computer science.

I'm 80k in debt

>Mfw I still havent gotten a job.

[Anonymous No.3240418]

>>3240407
going to university if you want to go to university is always better than not going to university.

[Anonymous No.3240427]

OP here , yes I live in the UK and just wanted to say - holy crap you guys are smart. I friggin' love to read this board.
Other than that - I find arts quite easy to learn so I would take a BA in, preferably, International Relations leading to a career as either
A) corporate lawyer (with law school on top of the degree)
or B) Civil Servant - diplomat.
Both sound exciting and intellectually stimulating careers.

[Anonymous No.3240444]

>>3240427

That would work if you went to a decent university, to go down that route you will need to have your degree. Get into a decent university:- Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffeild, Nottingham a really really good one to get into would be Northumbria university, what are your expected grades?

[Anonymous No.3240487]

>>3240444
Already got them since I've had a gap year:
A in English
CCC in Biology, History and Foreign Language
GCSE - A in IT
Plus lots of travelling experience

[Anonymous No.3240514]

>>3240487
sucky grades I know. But I am willing to make up for it and exceed any expectations. You guys and life experiences during the gap years taught the importance of study.

[Anonymous No.3241095]

>That feel when someone wants to help, but gives up after seeing my grades

[Anonymous No.3241193]

>>3240427
/sci/? smart?

You must be reading a different board then I am.

[Anonymous No.3241245]

>>3240487

if you are set on a top 20 uni or something, quite a lot of them run foundation programs which u would still be able to get on with CCC, its an extra year of debt though.

[Anonymous No.3241280]

>>3241193
>You must be reading a different board then I am
>then I am
>then
I see your point

[Anonymous No.3241286]

i would recommend not going to university at all. its a really shitty move for a britfag you face 9000 pounds tuition a year and little job expectancy when you graduate. the best move for you is starting a career in something like banking, i have relatives who make 100k+ in banking sector with no degree that just worked there way up from teller.

[Anonymous No.3241978]

>waiting for more inspiring ideas
I know that you know, that you know that you have them

[Anonymous No.3242076]

A in English
CCC in Biology, History and Foreign Language
GCSE - A in IT
Are these grades seriously any good?

[Anonymous No.3242150]

this thread needs some love from /sci/fags

[Anonymous No.3242173]

>>3242076
>one A at GCSE
>Cs as A level
why are you on /sci/?

[Anonymous No.3242191]

>>3242173
A in English , please don't forget.

[Anonymous No.3243406]

>>3242173
Implying 90% of this board haven't had worse grades finishing school

[Anonymous No.3243416]

>>3240444

>Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffeild, Nottingham a really really good one to get into would be Northumbria university
>Northumbria

What the fuck am I reading?

OP, Law isn't worth studying at BA. International Relations, however, is. It's a decent enough course and with it you could probably land a place at Law school and get actual legal qualifications.

I am a corporate lawyer (ask me anything) and I did History as my BA. If you're more interested in the technical side of things, go do an advanced apprenticeship for a big company and they'll put you through university if you're any good.

>>3242076

They aren't bad. Only one way to find out, isn't there?

[sage No.3243439]

>>3240394


I dont care what country you are from or what college you are going to.

as long as the college is "recognized" at all, even if it is not even in the top 100 (or if your country has a limited number of >4 year colleges, then top 50 or whatever), and it offers legitimate degrees (Eg: not university of phoenix online)...

its always better to get a 4 year degree than a 2 year degree (in the same field).


Dont get me wrong... you would be smarter to become a nurse (2 years) than pretty much any other Bachelors level job, even physicist or chemist or mathematician.

[Anonymous No.3243524]

>>3243416
>advanced apprenticeship
That sounds incredibly awesome, however I wouldn't know where to get one or even expect to get into, since competition must be 300 applicants for 1 spot.

>Northumbria
Bloody British unis have those retarded motherfucking names. It is however one of the top unis in the UK.

>Ask a Corporate Lawyer anything
How long have been in business? Are you working as a private lawyer? How difficult was it to beat competition and odds to get to where you are now?

[Anonymous No.3243545]

>>3243524

>It is however one of the top unis in the UK.

It's not, it's nowhere near. I'm not into bashing universities but the top ones in the country are

Oxford
Cambridge
ICL
KCL
UCL
Bath
Lancaster
York
Loughborough
St Andrews
Durham
Edinburgh
Southampton

etc etc

>How long have been in business?

3 years qualified.

>Are you working as a private lawyer?

Yes.

>How difficult was it to beat competition and odds to get to where you are now?

I wouldn't know, really. I did my undergrad at Leeds (avoid it, unless you're going for the #1 corrupt uni in the UK) and did my LLB at Queen Mary.

Regarding the advanced apprenticeship, my cousin did one and got onto it with average GCSE and A Level grades. They aren't impossible to get on, but they are very good. The other candidates will be mostly retarded, too.

[Anonymous No.3243547]

>>3243524
Sorry, Sir, for sounding like I'm trolling. I am extremely grateful for your time and advice.

[Anonymous No.3243573]

>>3243545
>note: these arent in order

[Anonymous No.3243575]

ENGINEERING OR GTFO

[Anonymous No.3243584]

>>3243573

I should have probably mentioned that, but that's not the point.

IMO, every established university is a good one. It's what you make of it that counts, and what you apply the knowledge you learned.

[Anonymous No.3245304]

>>3243575
pic related

[Anonymous No.3245344]

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[Anonymous No.3245584]

University is for the lose anyway. I mean how can you take a man, who is willing to submit to society's bullshit, seriously?
Then again - I'm a goodlooking mofo and society likes good-looking people.
Time for philosophy.

[Anonymous No.3245632]

where do all those faggots who to MIT, Stanford, Harvard all end up? high tech startups, wagemonkeys at IT firms? Banks? [talking engineering here]

[Anonymous No.3245819]

hey