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http://www.electroluxdesignlab.com/2011/06/electrolux-design-lab-2011-semi-finalists-announced/

Anyone else raging over this? Pretty much none of these give more than a passing nod to feasability.

What I see when viewing those designs is art students making whoosh sounds while drawing slick concept art and describing how much of an innovative breakthrough their project is: Harnessing Kinetic Energy while being made of Eco-Friendly Materials and being amazingly efficient because it looks all smooth and shit. Obviously, with a product this well designed, the actual mechanisms of its operation are something of an afterthought.

>> No.3234393
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>> a great looking portable cooking device
>>powered by paper-thin batteries.

>>batteries can produce power and recharge from water absorbed from the air.

If you become an engineer you may spend a lot of time "interdisciplinary design meetings" dealing with this kind of derp. Eventually you get used to it.

>> No.3234404

Wait a second. That thing is an unshielded microwave ring?

Man, fuck safety. We're doing science!

>> No.3234407

>engineers bitching about artists doing the job engineers are supposed to be doing
>complain on the internet instead of inventing shit

Stay classy engies.

>> No.3234413

>>3234404
Handheld as well. And it apparently has the power to heat water to 95 centigrade in a single pass through the center of the ring.

>> No.3234430

You can win a prize for shitting out sci-fi never-gonna-happen inventions? Shit son, sign me up

>> No.3234433

>>3234413
I like how the thing basically makes you set the final temperature, with no regard to a starting one.

>> No.3234438 [DELETED] 

>>3234393
the thought alone makes me boil with rage

>> No.3234444

>>3234430
These take quite a bit of creativity; something most engineers sadly lack.

>> No.3234455

>>3234444
These ideas are quite obvious. They just haven't been done before because anyone with a basic education can see they won't work.

>> No.3234471

>>3234362

what happens if my 8 year old child sticks his hand in it

>> No.3234472

>using sugar crystal batteries
>50 milliwatts to cook food and wash clothes

Wow I don't even

>> No.3234476

The Smoobo blender is a fun and environmentally friendly way of making smoothies. Simply put all your favorite ingredients inside the rubber ball, shut the knob tightly and start bouncing it around. The bounce in itself activates the kinetic energy batteries that in turn make the rotor blades spin, resulting in a perfectly blended smoothie. The Smoobo surface is made of uneven rubber knobs that will make the bounce even more fun as you’ll never know what direction the Smoobo will take.

A ball with an unpredictable trajectory and spinning blades. This sounds like something out of an Indiana Jones movie

>> No.3234479

>>3234471

Super powers.

>> No.3234485

>>3234479
Retarded Design Boy?

With the powers of retarded design, wishful thinking and ignorance of technology?

>> No.3234493
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>>3234476
Suzie here is throwing around an bouncy ball with a spinning blade inside. She's also seen biting down on some of the knobs, at least one of which is removable and serves to open the ball.

What does New Zealand have against toddlers?

>> No.3234509

As an army kid, I like number eleven. It's a perfectly sensible home MRE-maker, with built-in flameless ration heater bags.

>> No.3234518

>>3234509

Eh it's ok. The only problem I see is those inductively charged batteries they put in everything. There's no mention of how much those bags would cost though.

>> No.3234521

>>3234518
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

>> No.3234537

you rage you lose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrFWbGiGOc

>> No.3234542

>>3234537
clearly a parady

>> No.3234550

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTz12MxsoJQ

>> No.3234568

>Hey guys let's only focus on what's possible right now

This is a science board right?

>> No.3234570

>>3234550
>macfag
Didn't watch lol

>> No.3234581

>>3234568
Microwaving your coffee wile jamming all wifi signals in 100m neighborhood while frying your body and eventually causing cancer to all your neighbors.

- Just priceless -
(for dunco-fags yes I am exaggerating but you can't show any of the mentioned effects to be irrelevant nor obviously negligible - if you think you can, do it!)

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>>3234444
>battery powered hotplate
>creativity

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Related?

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>>3234605
and the votey

>> No.3234616

>>3234568
>25 Electrolux Design Lab semi-finalists provide ‘Intelligent Mobility’ solutions for domestic appliances utilising existing technology.
>existing technology

>> No.3234632

>Mobile Kitchen Kit

This is like long range mobile women. Not sure if want.

>> No.3234729

check out Gravia

>> No.3235198

4 or 5 of the ideas are interesting and that's all that electrolux is counting on.

That Mywash for example could be a big hit if they get the technical portions to work.

>> No.3236416

Out of curiosity, what programs do they use to design these things? The photorealistic ones, at least.

>> No.3237226

>>3236416
Probably some CAD shit.

>> No.3237643

Well lets see here.
1. Robo Tap Cleaner. Definitely doable, but pretty much a useless trinket.

2. EcoWash Dinner set. Definitely doable. Probably even a pretty decent idea. Naturally, it would need alot more work, but a good idea to work from regardless.

3. EMS Cooker. Failed at calculating energy. Lets give the plate a VERY generous efficiency of 50%, and the energy required to boil a cup of coffee is 602kJ => 1204 kJ. That requires the same amount of energy as to climb around 1500meters vertically.

4. GULL Air purifier. Air isn't dirty. And what function does the wings have? Do you need to sit and spin it yourself all the fucking time? Well. It would work, but it's a trivial shitty invention.

5. Heat granade. Why can't they just go all the way and say it would work in some not-yet-invented-way and will be all super cool and such. Water from the air.. i don't even..

6. Honeycomb Modular Induction Tiles. Whats the point. When the hell are you going to need more than 2 plates? And where is the energy source? Only good when you have magical free energy and need to cook 7 things at the same time in a particular arrangement.

7. No image. Boring.

8. A mixer can be done much simpler and better than this shit.

9 A huge waste. Somewhat doable. Whats the fucking point of "BLUETOOTH"?

10. Ever wanted to carry a cutting board around? Well here is your chance! Welcome to the future!

11. Mohe. Doable. Not too stupid idea actually.

12. Mywash. Doable. Not too stupid either. Good thing the designer makes sure to point of that its 3G. That shit high tech shit won't work with anything less!

13. Onda portable microwave. Doable i suppose.

14. Ozel Kinetic Blender. Doable. Not a new idea though. I'm surprised if its not done already in a pretty much equal fashion.

15. Ping Pong. Doable.

16. Doable. Not necessarily with the technology description given.

17. Doable.

>> No.3238138

I used to be a landscape architecture major, and this is the exact reason why I got the hell out of it. I saw it as a serious profession, designing the outdoor component of the human environment, making it livable, it's a big responsibility. That's not how you got ahead though, it didn't matter what you designed so long as you made it look good through glitzy concept art. This applies to just about every other architecture and design profession out there, and if you look closely you can see that most of the designers came from a school that specialized in the arts. Thankfully, engineers do not display these same characteristics, since they don't have to take 3 years of drawing and graphic design classes.

Hence why I decided to switch to engineering before I became a pretentious dick, provided I'm not already.

>> No.3238693

>>3237643
>18-25
>too silly to bother?

>> No.3238709
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>industrial design student here
>my university has us personally prototype nearly each of our projects in workshops
>my university has us work in designer-engineer-marketing guy teams for larger projects
>mfw most of those

>> No.3238715

I bet they will choose the shittiest most retarded design to win.

>> No.3238725

In a similar competition a few years back the winner was a guy who designed a light powered by lifting a 20 kilo weight one and a half meters (which then fell down slowly). He claimed it worked at 600 lumens for four hours. He even patented it.

The most hilarious thing is, I've seen people claim the reason it never came into production is because there is a conspiracy of energy companies who are blocking this innovative technology.

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The best humor is perennial.

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did... did I read that right that these are the 25 best out of 1300? there were 1275 sillier submissions?

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did... did I read that right that these are the 25 best out of 1300? there were 1275 sillier submissions?

>> No.3239348 [DELETED] 

>>3239260

just sayin

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>A bunch of shiny, white, round or even spherical objects doing insanely pointless things in an odd, unproductive or plain impossible way

Doesn't that sound somehow familiar?

>> No.3241186

>>3237643
>6. Honeycomb Modular Induction Tiles. Whats the point. When the hell are you going to need more than 2 plates? And where is the energy source? Only good when you have magical free energy and need to cook 7 things at the same time in a particular arrangement.

It's intended design is for small apartments such that they won't need a stove top. As for power, it's probably just not shown. No reason it couldn't just plug into a 208-230 plug. Also
>thinking it's uncommon to have more than 2 burners in the use at the same time
>gordonramseylaughing.bmp

That's my only gripe with your assessment though.

>> No.3241244

>>3241186
That sounds like a Foul Bachelor Frog picture

                  using two cooking plates
 
     MASTER CHIEF

>> No.3243080

>>3241186
>It's intended design is for small apartments
>The contest is about mobile appliances

>> No.3243128

So glad I won't ever have to deal with designers, as I'm not a faggot.

>> No.3243136

*engineer

>> No.3243153

they are all prettylike
and thats probably all you could reasonably ask from the public
I mean someone with an actual useful idea probably wouldn't go the them

>> No.3243246

>>3243153
It's not a contest for the "general public". It's for industrial design students.

>> No.3243627

>>3243246
It's the design equivalent of the Special Olympics. I've heard of form triumphing over function before, but SOME chance in Hell of actual operation should be required, no?

>> No.3245082

>>3243627
Actually, it's one of the biggest and most respected contests in its class.

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>>3245082
>Actually, it's one of the biggest and most respected contests in its class.

>> No.3245316

the blades are clearly attached. and only spin when the ball is closed and being bounced

>> No.3245325

The 'toddler' in the photo, was probably used as a model only. children of this age wouldnt actually be allowed a toy like this. the girl looks too young to even bounce a real basketball.... she was probably the only child the student had access to for the photos.
i dont understand why you nerds are wasting your time attacking designs from 20 year olds. This idea is perfectly feasible.
You shouldnt limit your creativity based on technology.

>> No.3245332

>>3245325
When you're an engineer, you should limit your creativity based on *feasible* technology. No point in engineering a device utilizing quantum teleportation to jump me to Mars when quantum teleportation doesn't work that way.

>> No.3245341

>>3245325
>You shouldnt limit your creativity based on technology.
This is a science board, not a fairy tale faggot make believe land. Go to /tg/ for that shit

>> No.3245373

>>3234471
the hand will get warm
fucking microwaves, how do they work?

>> No.3245789

>>3245373
>enough power to heat water 70 kelvins while pouring it through
>kid sticks whole arm in
>hand will get warm