/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3233574]

http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Real-Little-Astounding-Story/dp/0849946158

>A young boy emerges from life-saving surgery with remarkable stories of his visit to heaven.

>Heaven Is for Real is the true story of the four-year old son of a small town Nebraska pastor who during emergency surgery slips from consciousness and enters heaven. He survives and begins talking about being able to look down and see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room. The family didn't know what to believe but soon the evidence was clear.

Colton said he met his miscarried sister, whom no one had told him about, and his great grandfather who died 30 years before Colton was born, then shared impossible-to-know details about each. He describes the horse that only Jesus could ride, about how "reaaally big" God and his chair are, and how the Holy Spirit "shoots down power" from heaven to help us.

>Told by the father, but often in Colton's own words, the disarmingly simple message is heaven is a real place, Jesus really loves children, and be ready, there is a coming last battle.

[Anonymous No.3233583]

Should have stayed there.

[Anonymous No.3233588]

>hallucinations
>real

try harder faggot kid

[Anonymous No.3233604]

>son of a small town pastor
not surprising

[Anonymous No.3233606]

>did god make the devil

[Anonymous No.3233623]

>Told by the father
confirmed for money making attempt

[Anonymous No.3233629]

> disregarding evidence for the supernatural because you've already concluded that it doesn't exist

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

[Anonymous No.3233635]

>>3233629

>Taking a 4-year old's NDE as evidence for the supernatural.

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

[Anonymous No.3233636]

>dad writes book with shit he knows
>claims his kid write it
>his face when

[Anonymous No.3233638]

>>3233629
>implying any of this is significant evidence

There is nothing suggesting any of the 'proof' was not invented by the father, if not at least twisted.

[Anonymous No.3233639]

Hilarious how all his descriptions of heaven are identical to what is depicted in stereotypes.

The rest of it can just as easily be made up to exaggerate and hype the book.

Poor attempt overall.

His parents should have at least tried to be convincing about this scam.

[Anonymous No.3233642]

>Hundreds of millions of christians
>Hundreds of million of christians who want money
>Tens of millions of christians are willing to bend what is right to get money
>Tens of thousands who had a life saving surgery
>Hundreds who would do anything for money who have a relative with a life saving operation
>this happens
>HEAVEN CONFIRMED FOR REAL

[Anonymous No.3233654]

I find it hilarious that his parent assumed that details he reveals about his family were "impossible-to-know". Did his parents really think it was "impossible" for him to know ? were they omniscient and knew every conversation everyone ever had with him ?

[Anonymous No.3233661]

>>3233629
>> disregarding evidence for the supernatural because you've already concluded that it doesn't exist

>I seriously hope you guys don't do this

I personally do not, however, some people have an EXTREMELY loose definition of evidence. This kids story for example, is not. We have to take it on pure faith that the facts the claimed in this story were true.

I think its far more likely this is just another balloon boy, but with a smarter dad, and a better coached kid.

[Anonymous No.3233659]

>>3233654

>Doesn't know that parents are omniscient

[Anonymous No.3233663]

Delusions are real to the people that are having them.

[Anonymous No.3233664]

>>3233654

I should 'have an NDE' and then cold read people for information about their dead loved ones.

300k starting
all the worshippers I want

[Anonymous No.3233700]

This book is better.

[Anonymous No.3233706]

>Told by the father

[Anonymous No.3233732]

>>3233654
They probably exaggerated how little they told him and exaggerated how much the kid claimed to know.

Memories are easy to fool and alter. The kid probably knew a little, the parents told him it was nothing, the kid eventually believed that all the information he knew was gained from this experience. Then the parents would lead him on ("Grandpa said something about motorbike riding, I didn't know this until I went to heaven", "That's right Timmy! Your grandfather worked in a motorbike store! AMAZING. We've never told you this!")

Not even coincidental, because just about any detail could be contrived to be about something that was actually from his grandfathers life.

Of course, this is just speculation, maybe the parents just outright lied and the kid went along with it. Just another possible explanation.

[Anonymous No.3233740]

>>3233732
Here's another possibility: It's real and you are going to burn in Hell.

[Anonymous No.3233743]

>>3233740
Hmmm, an unfounded hypothesis, or coaching and showmanship?

I can't agree with your argument, sorry.

[Anonymous No.3233746]

>>3233743
Dude, you're saying that they MADE UP memories for the kid, and you think MY hypothesis is unfounded?

[Anonymous No.3233767]

>>3233746
Pwned his ass

[Anonymous No.3233789]

>>3233746
The brain is better at hallucinating than it is at traveling through wormholes and time-travel into the past.

[None !/oddSpacew No.3233790]

>>3233746
5/10.

[Anonymous No.3233797]

>>3233789
I don't see anything about wormholes. Stop making shit up.

[Anonymous No.3233804]

>>3233574
>4 years old
>not even fucking sentient
>told by the father

Fuck off OP.

[Science !!V9NwDn3l+KQ No.3233816]

>>3233789
Which is why the future is in the matrix, not space.

[Anonymous No.3233817]

>>3233804
You mean sapient, or self-aware. A chipmunk is sentient.

[Anonymous No.3233818]

>>3233797
Anything that is an unfounded hypothesis based on delusions and hallucinations qualifies.

Wormholes and time travel into the past is as credible as a sky-fairy.

[Anonymous No.3233826]

No one would care if he said he met aliens who told him all this shit.

[Anonymous No.3233834]

>>3233817
no its not

[Anonymous No.3233835]

>Colton is a very special little boy to have shared his beautiful and awesome experience of heaven with us. When one speaks of the "innocence of a child", this little guy's story is a true example of how Jesus' loving spirit works through the hearts and minds of so many children. I learn more lessons about life from these kids. The most remarkable part of Colton's story is that he confirmed what Jesus looks like via the story of the Lithuanian-American girl, Akiane who also at the age of four, started having visions of heaven and through these inspirations started to paint visions of heaven, one of which was of Jesus. Todd, Colton's dad is a minister and after Colton had this experience with his visit to heaven, if he came upon a picture of Jesus, he would ask Colton, "is this what Jesus looks like?". After Colton studied it, he would say "no, this one isn't it". But then, when his dad received an email from friends that told the story of Akiane and her art gallery, Todd called Colton to come look at this painting of Jesus on the screen of his computer and he asked Colton, "what's wrong with this picture of Jesus?" Colton, after a long hard study of it answered "nothing, this one is it". This just gave me goosebumps to now know what Jesus looks like. My sincere thanks to Colton and his family for sharing such a remarkable and loving story. It will no doubt bring people to open more to faith, hope and charity on their journey towards heaven. God's blessings on each of you.

So let me get this straight, sciencefags. You believe scientific papers because a bunch of people who study that area come to a general consensus, but you won't believe it when the same thing happens if religion is involved? Hypocrites much?

inb4 trolling instead of a rebuttal, I know you guys have nothing.

[Anonymous No.3233842]

>>3233840
You just proved my point.

[Anonymous No.3233841]

>>3233834
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience

[Anonymous No.3233840]

>>3233835
That which chooses to define itself in a manner that precludes any possible scientific verification or investigation deserves to be trolled by /sci/.

[Science !!V9NwDn3l+KQ No.3233844]

>>3233840
>implying trolling can be scientifically verified

[Anonymous No.3233848]

>>3233835
>hypocrites

You forgot your image.

[Anonymous No.3233851]

>>3233848
>Two physicists agree that this model has merit
>Model gains merit

>Two kids both paint the same picture of Jesus
>Picture... is fake? What?

[Anonymous No.3233856]

>>3233835
>if religion is involved?

Scientology is as legitimate as any religion.

[Anonymous No.3233858]

>>3233844
>implying I said science and not /sci/

>>3233842
Of course you won't get rebuttal, you have to submit something to rebut first.

[Anonymous No.3233866]

>>3233851
>2 kids

Explain their proven theory first.

[Anonymous No.3234032]

>>3233835
>comparing studies reviewed by a group of scientists who are experts in their field with a picture of Jesus that two 4 year-olds liked

[Feynfeld !!2U6jmmEZc6C No.3234699]

>>3233574
>Implying children always tell the truth.
>Implying that a son of a pastor is not religiously biased.
>Implying that god prefers speaking with gentile white skinned Christians instead of his own people.

[Anonymous No.3234720]

>big horse only jesus can ride
what a fucker. so much for sharing.

[Anonymous No.3234802]

>>3233629
>Considering a story book by a crazy person 'evidence'
>I really hope you don't do this