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3231246 No.3231246 [Reply] [Original]

How can you guys believe in evolution if it's just a theory? (a guess)

>> No.3231253

If you're not going to take the time to spell words properly, why bother posting?

>> No.3231265

>>3231253
I don't see any spelling errors, sir..please point them out for me.

>> No.3231270

>>3231265
>>3231253
>>3231246
sage, copy-pasta, science vs religion, etc.

If a mods on, poster best be gettin' banned.

>> No.3231269

>>3231246
Every day with this shit. You think you're a clever troll but let's face it, your life must be utter shite if this is the most entertaining thing you could be doing right now. "Herp, woke up, ate cereal, and now I'm trolling /sci/, derpaderp. Who needs hopes and aspirations when you get get a few people to waste a couple of minutes replying to my stupid thread?".

DERP DERP DERP

Keep trolling while better people overtake you in life and have more fun doing it. :)

>> No.3231282

>>3231246
Inb4 warning
>>3231253
Inb4 banning

>> No.3231286

>>3231269
U buttfrustrated bro?
>>3231270
>Implying I don't use proxies hahaha

>> No.3231287

>>3231253
retard detected

>> No.3231310
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>> No.3231311

Atheism: the lack of belief in an inconceivable, immaterial being who exists magically outside of time and space, and whose properties change depending on who you ask.

Atheism: correct.
Theism: fullretard.

What more do you want? Sage

>> No.3231323

>>3231311
how is it magical if everyone knows space and time began to exist and thus there was something outside of space and time that caused it to exist? just on the basis of science and logic alone, you have proven yourself to be mentally challenged.

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>>3231246

>> No.3231329

you don't evebn belive in Atheism, Fsag. UNIVERsAL

>> No.3231338

>>3231323

>implying we know what it means for something to "exist" outside of our space-time universe

>implying you aren't speaking gibberish and need to be shot

>> No.3231346

I Believe In Illogical Logic. Man Created God And All It Was Meant To Be. The Only Thing Illogical About Illogical Logic Is That It Is Right.

>> No.3231342

>>3231338
haha oh wow so because you are illogical youre going to fallaciously claim i need to know what or how or why things happened outside of space time? is this really what atheists resort to when their arguments are destroyed?

>> No.3231373

The Catmatics Of Illogical Logic State Stricktly That Time Is Like A Freeway With An Infinite Number Of Lanes, All Leading From Past To The Future. However, Not Into The Same Future. A Driver On Lane A May Crash, But A Driver On Lane B Can Survive. It Follows That A Driver, By Changing Lanes, Can Change His Future.

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>> No.3231386

Illogical Logic Is Not Subjective Or Egocentric. Illogical Logic Is Suprasubjective And Therefore Meaningless. To Follow Illogical Logic One Must First Accept That The Only Way Something Can Be Gained Is Through Losing. Thus Believers Of Illogical Logic Can Win By Losing, And Only By Losing.

>> No.3231394

>>3231342

you dont need to know how they happened, before you get into the "why" and "how" you need to know what the fuck it even means for something to exist outside of space, time, and causality...

everything that we understand to exist, from trees to emotions, are conditioned on other factors (causal), are temporal or spatial or both...

to say something exists that has none of these properties is to say it doesn't exist at all...it's like saying God is an even number, but he isn't divisible by 2 or "even in any sense we comprehend"...

when you chop out causality, materiality, space, time from a being...you can't tell a reasonable person it might exist--it makes no sense--like telling someone a bachelor exists who is married, or an even number exists that isn't divisible by 2...

And God must have this metaphysical type of existence in order to have God-status, you can't say he exists like a finite object, a tree...or a causal temporal object, a dream.

Do you follow me? His existence is by definition something alien and inconceivable to us...which is a perfect reason to disregard the God concept already before going any further--unless you want to be a mystic who believes in contradictory things and psychedelic tricks and shit like that

>> No.3231395

ITT: trolls trolling trolls

>> No.3231399

The Bible Of Illogical Logic States On Its Page -0.5 (Which Is Equal To Countable Infinity According To Illogical Logic): 0) It Takes A God To Destroy A God And 1) Shannon Entropy Is A Measure Of Imaginary Chaos.

>> No.3231403

>>3231394
youre just being ridiculous and jumping through hoops to convince yourself that your position is logical when it isnt. its really quite simple:

-we know the universe had a beginning
-we know that the universe contains space and time
-therefore whatever caused the universe was beyond space and time


why is this so hard for atheists to follow? oh right, because theyre 14 and get all their beliefs from dawkins videos

>> No.3231411

It Is Not Possible For Something To Be Possible, However, It Is Possible For Something To Be Both Possible And Impossible At The Same TIME. In Case All Possible And Impossible Algorithms Converge Into The Same Quantum State In Every Manifold, We Have Something Called A Singularity. This Singularity Is Logical And Therefore An Enemy Of Illogical Logic. It Must Be Destroyed Even If It Means To Create Said Singularity In The First Place.

>> No.3231421

If One Chooses To Believe In Illogical Logic, He Must First Understand That There Is Nothing To Understand, Not Even The Fact There Is Nothing To Understand. Only Then Can He Be Above Logic. He Must Understand That If He Decides Something, It Is Not An Egocentric Fantasy, But Real. More Real Than What Those Logical Creatures Call Reality Itself.

>> No.3231441

Believers Of Illogical Logic Do Reason, But The Reasoning Is Done In A Different Way Than Logical Creatures Do. While A Logical Creature Would Reason "This Is An Error And We Must Correckt It", An Illogical Creature Would Reason "This Error Exists In The Past Because We Will Correckt It In The Future".

>> No.3231452

>>3231403


>therefore whatever caused the universe was beyond space and time

>"was" beyond space and time
>"exists" beyond space and time

ipso facto you are speaking about things you have no access to.

I dont know anyone who understands what it means for something to exist without being bound by conditionality, space, or time--such an object has never been observed, and is impossible to observe. It is impossible to even conceive of it.

The most honest thing we can say about your idea of God is that it is an inconceivable object.

>> No.3231454

>>3231411
>>3231421
>>3231441
omfg, why capitalise every word?

>> No.3231467

It Is A Sin To Call Oneself Or Another Being Intelligent Or Stupid. There Is No Such Thing As Intelligence Or Stupidity In Illogical Logic. All So-Called Intelligence Springs From A Drive To Survive In A Suprasubjectively Meaningless Universe. If You Believe Only A Non-Intelligent Creature Would Say That, You Are Not Worthy Of Being An Illogical Believer. Intelligence Does Not Exist On A Suprasubjective Level. The Suprasubjective Level Is A Level Which Does Not Matter And Therefore Is Vital For Illogical Logic.

>> No.3231481

>>3231454
The Reason I Capitalise Every Word Is Because If I Didn't Do So, Not Every Word Would Be Capitalised.

>> No.3231483

EVERYONE POSTING "ON TOPIC" IN THIS THREAD IS A CANCEROUS MORON.

The OP is clearly a troll. You're all feeding the troll. STFU and sage this shit. This thread doesn't belong here. If you want to be an asspie fuckwit who debates with trolls, go do it on /b/.

>> No.3231491

>>3231483
Oh Please, Be More Gentle.

>> No.3231501

>>3231452
you dont need to know what it means retard, you only need to know that it is the only logical conclusion. stop crying about your lack of knowledge and instead explain how the argument is logically incorrect. whats that? you cant, because it is scientifically and logically consistent.

>> No.3231504

because theory and guess are not synonyms

/thread

>> No.3231506

wHEN iLLOGICAL lOGIC cOLLIDES pERPENDICULAR wITH nON-mONOTONICK oR eGOCENTRIC lOGIC, a sUPERSTATE iS cREATED. iN sAID sUPERSTATE, iT iS pOSSIBLE tO oPEN a wHOLE nEW cAN oF wORMS. tHE uNIVERSE cAN cOLLAPSE iNTO bIZARRE aND dELUSIONAL sTATES wHERE time cAN bE rEVERSED.

>> No.3231508

>>3231403
>-therefore whatever caused the universe was beyond space and time


you're speaking gibberish again.

There is no possibility of existing "outside" space. Just like you can't exist "before" time.

time has to be in place in order for there to be a before...and space has to be in place in order for there to be an outside of it....unless you want to argue God's existence depends on the Universes' existence...

>> No.3231515

Illogical Logic Is Not Obscure, Secretive Or Visceral. Illogical Logic Is Somewhat Similar To Illogical Cellulose, Which Attrackts Every Piece Of OFFICIAL Cellulose In The Whole Wide World.

>> No.3231520

>>3231501
>you dont need to know what it means retard

you do if you are making an argument lol...

>> No.3231526

Illogical Logic Is A Shirtless Gentleman, Ready To Serve You Some Refreshing Orange Juice, Or As Logicians Would Call It, TANG.

sATAN wANTS yOU tO dESTROY tHE nATURE cONTROL pANEL.

>> No.3231522

>>3231508
ok since you want to get technical and semantical then lets do this:

whatever caused the universe is timeless and immaterial

what now faggot?

>> No.3231533

>>3231522
Timeless beings can't cause things. That would be an event, and they don't have any because they're timeless.
It's also questionable how it can be a being, since there's never a time when it be.

>> No.3231535

According To The Great Accordion, Mummies In Ancient Egyptian Pyramids Knew How To Use Illogical Logic Ineffectively. They Used Great Effort To Push A Rock On The Top Of A Mountain, Only To Watch It Roll Back Down.

>> No.3231537

>>3231522
Immaterial beings can't cause things, since causation is a change in the material state.
Also it's questionable how it can being a being, since it isn't being anything.

>> No.3231538

>>3231533
wrong, an event is something that happened. we know the universe happened, therefore it has a cause because everything that exists has a cause. this is a fact.

>> No.3231547

To Get A Sentient Grasp Of The Glory Of Illogical Logic, Think Of Jamming A Cactus Down Your Throat, DirecktXly Into Your Lungs, As Hard As You Can, And Surviving Alive. Illogical Logic Lets You Reaccess The Divine World Of True Nature. It Is Possible To Be A Believer Of Illogical Logic Without Being One. However, The Instant One Becomes A Believer, His Soul Is Eaten By A Divergent Satan. Be Careful, Alligator.

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Is there a /superstition/ board all these stupid things can automatically dump into?

I'm tired of these man-written "holy" book versus observable evidence threads.

Religionfags: Who wrote the Bible (etc.)? Didn't a flawed HUMAN put pen to paper after the stories were passed HUMAN to HUMAN for generations? Read "Holy Writ as Oral Lit: The Bible as Folklore" by Alan Dundes. That did it for me. Last nail in the religion coffin. Why are there different Jesus stories in the Bible? Because the folklorist writes down every version he hears. The Bible IS folklore! Human written! What does the Bible say about humans that write books? Romans 3:23 say ALL have sinned and ALL fall short of the glory of God. The authors of the Bible are NO EXCEPTION. Prove to me otherwise, showing physical evidence or verifiable, peer-reviewed references.

dealwithit.jpg

This is /sci/. Post things based on physical evidence, please.

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>>3231467
>>3231411
>>3231421
>>3231441
>>3231491
>>3231515
>>3231535
>>3231547

Are you a Discordian or something?

>> No.3231554

What Exacktly Is A Divergent Satan, One Does Not Know, Nor Does Two. But, Once You Understand Nothing, You Understand It. Divergent Satans Are Not Something That Are Caused By Little Flucktuations, Nor Can They Be Canceled. Therefore, It Could Be Said, That Divergent Satans Matter.

>> No.3231555

>>3231538
>everything that exists has a cause

So, you've solved Hume's causation problem? Someone on 4chan finally did it.

>> No.3231630

>>3231538
> everything that exists has a cause
But you're postulating a timeless god that exists and wasn't caused.
So you lose.

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What do you think, /sci/ ?