/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3212808]

How the fuck do ants work, /sci/?

You mean to tell me that the mindless dispersal of pheromones can lead to such complex behaviour?

I don't habeeb it.

[Anonymous No.3212812]

I'm sure there are many, many other things you don't habeeb.

[Anonymous No.3212815]

>I don't habeeb it.

This isn't a thinly-veiled "god did it" thread, is it /sci/?

[tinycat !!qoWPGZQ4oQc No.3212821]

Yes thats how they work.

Ive always thought that an AI based on ants would be fabulous for a zombie survival game.

[Anonymous No.3212822]

They work because every other possibility failed.

[Anonymous !wM5G0xiB/Q No.3212832]

>>3212808
With numbers and time, all things are possible.

[Anonymous No.3212835]

FUCK OP! I'm hijacking this thread and demanding someone tell the relative collective intelligence of an ant colony or at least propose a way to measure it.

[tinycat !!qoWPGZQ4oQc No.3212842]

>>3212835
You can't compare ant intelligence to human intelligence, its a different kind of intelligence.

As for how to measure it, i would say its proportionate to the number of ants belonging to the same colony.

[Anonymous No.3212854]

>>3212842

I never said I want t compare it to humans you triphaving faggot, I said I wanted to measure it.

For example can an ant colony collectively under go Pavlovian conditioning?

[sage No.3212855]

Ants = scaled up neurons?
Colonies = scaled up brains?

[Anonymous No.3212947]

>>3212855
>you have nano ants in your brain

[tinycat !!qoWPGZQ4oQc No.3213038]

>>3212854
>relative collective intelligence

You have to compare it to something. Replace 'human' with anything that's not an ant.

The only thing you can compare an ant colonies intelligence to is another ant colony.

[Anonymous No.3213060]

>>3212854
>can an ant colony collectively under go Pavlovian conditioning?

I'm almost certain it can. Why? Because much simpler systems can undergo Pavlovian conditioning.
e.g. E. coli and baker's yeast cells:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v460/n7252/abs/nature08112.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/320/5881/1313.abstract

The question is more off how long would it take to successfully condition them. For microbes this will happen on evolutionary time-scales (hundreds-thousands of generations). For ant-colonies it might be much faster

[∞ chan !!JpUnLqt++st No.3213676]

How the fuck do brains work /sci/?

You mean to tell me that the mindless dispersal of neurotransmitters can lead to such complex behaviour?

I don't habeeb it.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superorganism

[Anonymous No.3213686]

The ants that lay pheromones only really have one task:
TAKE SHORTEST KNOWN PATH TO FOOD
GET FOOD
BRING HOME FOOD

So their behavior isn't *that* complex. Research how pheromone trails can give ants the shortest path

[Anonymous No.3213688]

I read somewhere that each individual of a class gives out its own pheromone. So when the queen recieves signals that a certain pheromone level is dropping, say soldier or worker, she pumps out more of that cast. But ants grow there own fungal cultures in there colonies, and sometimes have huge structures. One experiment looked at the extent of one colony by pouring concrete into it then excavating it, it took over 10 tonne of concrete to fill it up

[Anonymous No.3214992]

>>3213676
Forget the brain for a moment, the fact that our bodies are assembled of so many different kinds of cells that are capable of working together and keeping so much together just boggles my fucking mind. I'm taking an immunology class this summer, and holy shit...

pic related, it's mfw

[Anonymous No.3215012]

>childhood
>create my own ant colony of little ants
>capture large ants and release them one at a time
>little ants rape an suck the juices out of the large ant

I AM GOD

[Anonymous No.3216696]

Why is it that just when I read and watch videos about ants someone makes a thread for them? Can people on the internet spontaneously form a collective mind to study ants?