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What sort of scientific advancements do you expect to see before you die, /sci/?

>> No.3197319

"gamification"

no. People are dumb, but not everyone is an MMO-player. Not everyone will buy a product because it gives them a virtual hat.

>> No.3197333

I really hope to see the next paradigm. I mean, to see it and know it's the new physics. More practically, first man on mars, first real working AI and maybe fusion.

>> No.3197345

>>3197333
The first man on Mars is a meaningless accomplishment.

The first orbital foundry will mean something significant. A man on Mars just means we wasted another few billion dollars to plant a flag and say we've been there before going home.

>> No.3197350

>>3197345

Mars to stay, my man.

>> No.3197392

>>3197345
It would be meaningless for you, but Apollo 11 is something important for many humans. It opened a door.

>> No.3197421
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Cities in the sea.

>> No.3197450

>>3197392
And going to mars is going to open doors?

No. Building out infrastructure - colonies, habitats, fuel depots, power plants, foundries and mines in space are the important step.

Landing people on Mars means nothing if we don't have what we need in place to make it anything more than a PR stunt. I do not care if we land some people on Mars. I care about making space exploration sustainable and economical and you won't get that with a trillion dollar cumshot to Mars.

>> No.3197452

>>3197345
You do realise we plant equipment, right?
We link shit up to RTG's and set up long term experiments that beast what a rover can do.
They didn't just plant a flag and fuck off on Apollo 11, they stayed for about a day and collected a shitload of samples and installed a seismograph and laser retro-reflectors.

>> No.3197465

I can tell you wont I wont see.

Feasible fusion power.

>> No.3197478

>>3197452
But what have we accomplished since then? A space shuttle the only exists to service a space station, and a space station that only exists to be serviced by a space shuttle, and now that those are finally being decommissioned, /what have we accomplished/?

I think the public at large focuses too much on Mars like they do the Apollo missions. "Lets go to Mars! Lets go to Mars!"

And I ask "What are you going to do when you get there? A little geology? Verify some physics? Maybe look for some fossils?"

The Moon and near Earth orbit both provide far more advantages at lower cost than anything Mars could provide to us in the near future. Mars is a dead planet that will serve only as a scientific curiosity for us right now. There is nothing for us to do there.

Look, I am not saying we should not go to Mars, because we most certainly should. But as something to be done soon? What the hell would we gain compared to what we could have spent that money on? It is trying to run a marathon before we even know how to walk. We need the infrastructure in place first and foremost.

I want to see orbital habitats and asteroid mining, not another flag planted on another planetary body in the solar system and then 50 years of the worlds government space programs dicking around in low earth orbit on various boondoggles until they drum up enough public support for another manned mission to Europa or wherever.

>> No.3197479

>>3197465
This. We'll be lucky to see that in the next 1000 years.

>> No.3197482

>>3197465
>implying solar panels don't exist

>> No.3197496

>>3197482
>implying he didn't say feasible

>> No.3197502

Smart cities, I really want to see smart cities.

>> No.3197531

>>3197482

If you're going to be indirect about it, even fossil fuels are "fusion-powered:" the fusion-powered sun shines light on plants, which convert the energy into chemical energy, the plants (and other organisms that eat the plants) die and their biomass gets buried under rock and decays into petroleum and coal, which is then dug up and burned to release the chemical energy.

Solar power is obviously more straightforward than that, and if the upfront costs can go low enough it would be highly profitable, but being able to create a little mini-sun here on Earth would be quite a nifty thing.

>> No.3197539

>>3197502
Halo ODST had a few neat examples of this.

In the game, there are crosswalks that activate automatically when you walk close to them, automated roadblocks, and the city is monitored by a dumb artificial intelligence that is able to quickly locate people, or help guide you to certain locations.

>> No.3197560

>>3197478
I would say one of the biggest and still on going accomplishments is the hubble. Also our long list of satellites and rovers. Your failure to credit any of this definitely makes me feel like I'm walking into a troll trap.

But anyways, the US administration has made it very clear where they stand. They are not in the space business to make money. They set their sights on mars, for a multitude of reasons. The biggest, being it a huge achievement that would gain zero profit. Because of the latter, no company is going to set forth towards mars, so NASA has taken it under their belt. NASA wants to set itself doing the next level missions that companies wont do. Everything you named has revenue attached to it. Because of this NASA is currently working along side a vast amount of private companies, trying to get them off the ground so they can expand on to those areas.

I fully support this, as if we are truly to become a space fairing nation, I believe the private sector needs to make it boom.

>> No.3197565

Half Life 2: Episode 3

>> No.3197580
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A mission to Europa.

>> No.3197600

>>3197565
Okay I lold.

>> No.3197616

Nanotechnology. Coupled with abundant energy from nuclear power and increased computing power nanotech would be like a second industrial revolution.

>> No.3197624

Sex holograms.

We can already make basic tactile sensation (water drops landing on hand) with ultrasound combined with holograms. Eventually, we will make them sexy.

>mfw I am a macrophile
>mfw square cube law doesn't mean holgram giants don't real

>> No.3197627

>>3197616

The third, you mean. The first was the application of engine power to industry. The second is the application of robots, and we're in the middle of that right now. We'll be effectively post scarcity (or more accurately, post-insufficiency) long before the nanotech revolution. That will just make it easier to do what we were already doing with much larger robots.

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The settlement of the south pole.

>> No.3197725

>>3197580

As long as it isn't manned.

I'm starting to agree with the anti-manned mission people. Sending robots is nearly as efficient (those buggies would be equipped with cutting edge tech anyway ) and vastly cheaper

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>>3197725

I agree with the initial unmanned mission. But if we do find life, I want to send people. I want human beings to see alien life face to face, even if it's just squids or something.

Pic related

>> No.3197766

the biggest revolution we could, we our current means achieve, would be a blue revolution.
being able to domesticate tuna, squid, and ten more haleutic ressources like we've managed for cows.
this would need the mastery of plancton cycle zoo- and phyto-, but this would be even more productive than the green revolution

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>>3197766

You're not kidding, bro. Open ocean aquaculture is already underway (pic related) as is deep sea mining. Undersea industry will be the next great area of expansion, and the explosion of wealth that results will make it possible to fund a really robust space program again. The resources of the sea will take us to the stars.

>> No.3197924

>>3197774
>>3197766

Never heard of that...may be a interesting to see.

>> No.3197959

>>3197774
>>3197766

Is there a company that invest in this? It would be interesting to see their shares.

>> No.3197996

>>3197959

Nautilus Minerals is the biggest seafloor mining firm, I don't know who all does aquaculture.

>> No.3198028
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Another pic of an OOA (open ocean aquaculture) pod.

>> No.3198060

Deep Sea Exploration

>> No.3198091
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3198091

Cure for baldness. Also, a solution for all these religion threads on mah /sci/- maybe some kind of death-ray that can be fired via tcp/ip?

>> No.3198092
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I WANT MY DAMN HOVERCARS

>> No.3198097

A space elevator

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>>3198060

>>Deep Sea Exploration

I agree, although I think efforts should be focused on the hydrothermal vents. That's where all of the really exciting new organisms are being found.

We sill turn up numerous new species by combing the abyssal plane, but nothing as noteworthy or exotic as vent extremophiles. It's also vital to study them before deep sea vent mining destroys their habitat. I cannot support a blanket ban on vent mining, but I do think we should pick vent clusters typical of different types of vent ecosystem (the types of organisms differ from vent to vent due to evolutionary isolation) and declare them off limits for mining. If there's a billion vents of one particular type, losing a few hundred won't hurt.

>> No.3198136

>>3198091

I read on the paper a few months ago that they invented a cream or lotion that did just that. It's still on research though.

>> No.3198173

>>3198136

Pah, a "cure" is found every couple of years, but somehow it never works. Fuckin big Pharma, always cock-teasing the little (bald) guy.

>> No.3198185

>>3197392
A door that was closed by niggers and religious fanatics with too much power.

Woop dee doo.

>> No.3198184

User-programmable experience machines.

"Today, I want to invisible rule over a world in which people have 6 arms but no feet."

*click* *bam* *go*

"Meh, that was boring. I want to invisibly follow my best friend in an exact replica of his life with the ability to alter things as I see fit."

*click* *bam* *go*

>> No.3198210

Somehow, I have this hunch that mathematicians will finally provide good understanding of turbulence and chaos. Then nearly all areas of research will boom. But I'm thinking on scale 20-50 years.

>> No.3199136

bump

>> No.3199186

Wow, ITT people either aren't very optimistic or don't plan to live very long. With the exponential growth of technology, I expect to see a lot in the next 30-40 years (well within the average 4channer's lifespan).

Personally, I think the next most interesting development will be energy-related. If we can create enough energy that it is no longer scarce, the implications for humanity will be immeasurable.

>> No.3199519

bump

>> No.3199579

>>3197565

I LOL'd

>> No.3199617

I want to see a cure for aging

Then I'll stop worrying.

>> No.3199632

>>3199186
>if only we found that magical wand we're looking for

>> No.3199714

>>3199617

Even if we managed to cure all diseased, indefinitely prevent all pathogens, and predict/assess all genetic abnormalities you would still have to tackle the lifetime of the genes themselves. Your skin, reproducing at the fastest rate, has to chop off a piece of telomere every time it copies itself. Eventually it will reach nonrepeating genes that code for important traits. At the rate of skin cells, this will give you about 200 years tops.

Still, if we do all of the above, I see us easily being able to replicate what cancer does to avoid this and learn to add telomere before it is chopped.

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Building sized avril lavignes whose vagina I can crawl into and bite huge clitoris

>> No.3199767

smart cities with genetically modified animal/insect cyborgs doing continous maintainance of the city

>> No.3199782

>>3197291
>gesture recognition, multi touch (or any kind of touch), and speech recognition.
Yeah, these all suck and will never be in wide usage.
They're clumsy and extremely inefficient. More of a novelty than anything else

>> No.3199794

i'm an engineer and i'd certainly like to see aids cured