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/sci9k/, is there a type of drug or chemical you could use to make a woman want to sleep with you? Not Rohypnol or any date rape drug, I do want something I could slip in her drink or such, but something that just causes or elicits arousal in her; nothing knocking her out or against her will.

>> No.3171522

Chocolates.

>> No.3171524
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Money.

Captcha-tan said so as well.

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>>3171528

>> No.3171528

diamonds

>> No.3171530

PROTIP: If her feelings of arousal are only caused by you drugging her then it is still against her will and rape.

>> No.3171532

>>3171530
Not if she still wants to have sex with you. We're not looking to impair, otherwise we would be suggesting liquor.

>> No.3171533

your 12 inch penis

>> No.3171534

>>3171530
If she still consents to it, nope.

>> No.3171538

>>3171532
You don't understand.
She doesn't want to fuck you. You drug her without her knowledge, then for a short time she does want to fuck you.
It's still against her will and rape.

>> No.3171539

>>3171530
>If her feelings of arousal are only caused by you drugging her then it is still against her will
Maybe.

>and rape
No, it's not unless she's put into a state where she can't functionally make a proper decision.

>> No.3171540

>>3171538

Technically, I would say that you changed her will against her will.

I'm not sure we have a law against that...

>> No.3171545

>>3171534
She only consents to it because she's been drugged against her will.
Therefore she is in no state of mind to consent.
It would only be consensual if she knew she was being drugged and allowed it

>> No.3171546

>>3171538
That's actually a matter of opinion and local laws.

Take Sweden, for example. She could withdraw her consent after the act has taken place, and it would retroactively make it rape.

>> No.3171548

>>3171538
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug#Legal_issues
>In most parts of the world, whether or not a drug was used is irrelevant to the issue of whether a particular incident is rape or not. The legal definition of rape in countries such as the United States also covers a lack of consent when the victim is unable to say "no" to intercourse, whether the effect is due to drugging or simply alcohol consumption
If she's still agreeing to it, and isn't impaired doing so, then it's perfectly legal.

>> No.3171551

Bump.

Looking for something like that too.
Dating a girl for 3 Months (!) - no sex.

>> No.3171552

>>3171551
She is fucking the entire football team behind your back.

>> No.3171554

>>3171548
>when the victim is unable to say "no" to intercourse
Like for instance if she's drugged, causing her to be horny enough that she'd fuck a 4channer.

>> No.3171557

>>3171545
>She only consents to it because she's been drugged against her will.
It doesn't work like that, you need to put her in state where she can't make a proper decision or isn't in a right state of mind, which would need to be an impairment. But if you're just giving her an aphrodisiac, like chocolates are natural aphrodisiacs, than it's perfectly since she's still can actively consent or not consent. You're not making her do anything.

>> No.3171558

>>3171554
>causing her to be horny enough that she'd fuck a 4channer
It's not, since she can still say "no" in such states.

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>>3171540

HOLY MINDFUCK BATMAN!!

>> No.3171563

>>3171557
You are making her do things if you drug her without her knowledge.
WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE - this is the key.
It's perfectly fine if she knows about it, but drugging her secretly is tantamount to rape.

>> No.3171564

>>3171540
>Technically, I would say that you changed her will against her will.
Yes, but the thing is there's no such thing as "changing one's will against their one," nor is it possible to achieve such acts with a sentient creature, it's still her will.

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>>3171564

>> No.3171569

>>3171558
You ever been so horny that you couldn't stop yourself from jacking off, no matter how hard you tried?

>> No.3171570

>>3171563
Than giving her chocolates is rape then. Than giving her a simple drink is rape then. Both these, and other aphrodisiacs, elicits and enhances sexual arousal in women, without their knowledge or awareness of such. Simply giving them such consumables would be rape under your presented definitions and logic.

>> No.3171572

Even if it wasn't considered rape you would still be drugging them, which is quite illegal and immoral by itself.

>> No.3171573

>>3171568
Sorry but it's true, you can't turn a will on itself or it's host, it's still their will. The only exceptions would be a mental illness, but even then you're still not turning such a function against or on itself.

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>>3171551
>Dating a girl for 3 Months - no sex.

>> No.3171576

>>3171570
FFS, are you even listening to me?
They don't count as rape because she ingests them willingly and knows the effects of doing such.

>> No.3171577

>>3171573

Ok i'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.

Perhaps I should have said:

You are changing her will without her consent.

>> No.3171579

>>3171572
>which is quite illegal
As long as it doesn't impair them in a way they can't function properly, it's perfectly fine under a legal perspective. Drugging people depends on the drug itself.

>and immoral
That depends on the society, culture, and individual.

>> No.3171584

>Girl is drugged by extremely ugly guy.
>She isn't in her right mind and fucks extremely ugly guy.
>Wakes up the next day, realise what she has done.
>Is so horrified and ashamed that she kills herself
Try and put yourself in her shoes

>> No.3171585

>>3171577
>You are changing her will without her consent.
Still can't happen, nobody can make anybody do anything. You can't even brainwash people because of how highly temporary it is. You can condition somebody to such an act, but they're still acting on their own accord.

>>3171576
Most people don't the affects of natural aphrodisiacs like chocolates, thus they aren't willingly ingesting the aphrodisiac part of it since they aren't aware of it.

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>>3171585

Ok, confirmed for full retard.

facepalm.jpg

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>come to /sci/ for first time this year
>read this thread
>mfw

>> No.3171593

>>3171585
Chocolate isn't even a strong aphrodisiac. Stop using it as an example.
OP is talking about something a million times stronger.
Besides, the effects of chocolate is common knowledge.

>> No.3171590

>>3171584
That's mostly her cross to bare. Almost everybody has had sex with somebody they end up regretting doing so.

>> No.3171595

MDMA

>> No.3171599

>>3171520
>/sci9k/, is there a type of drug or chemical you could use to make a woman want to sleep with you?

It's called ALCOHOL.

>> No.3171600

>>3171589
Sorry, but it's just plain wrong and not how the law or chemicals of such substances work, nor how the body and it's ability to handle such consummations. The person will still be in a mindset where they have complete control over themselves, they can still easily not participate in such acts with the person and go on to someone or something else.

>> No.3171601

>>3171590
>*I personally have had sex with someone with whom I regret having sex

>> No.3171605

>>3171593
>OP is talking about something a million times stronger.
Now that's just a primacy and anchoring effect, he said nothing about the strength of such drugs or chemicals, just what are ones that do have such effects, nothing about how efficient they are or aren't. The power of such drugs has so little significance it's barely relevant here. And no, chocolate isn't common knowledge, but common knowledge has no standard way of being measured.

>> No.3171606

>>3171600
spoken like a true rapist, sir

>> No.3171609

>>3171606
Again, just an anchoring effect and argumentum ad hominem.

>> No.3171612

It disgusts me that people like you exist, OP.

>> No.3171616

>>3171609
>>3171606
just for clarification I'm not the guy you're arguing with, I'm just a guy who thinks you think like a rapist

>> No.3171618

as long as she can still choose not to fuck the guy, I don't see /sci/'s problem here. there's just the problem that if the person who does might end up leading to harder drugs like ruffies, but that just depends on the person

>> No.3171623

>THIS IS WHAT RAPISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>> No.3171625

>>3171616
No, these are just how the law and chemistry works, nothing about rape or sexual. It's not a problem unless the person really can't get out of it or say no. Enhancing arousal isn't that, slipping her in-and-out of consciousness is, putting her in a state where she can't form a coherent thought or stand up straight is.

>> No.3171629

>>3171618
Yes that is a problem, but it's the same as people who start getting high off of mild drugs end up going to harder stuff, there's always that problem but it's up to the individual.

>> No.3171627

>>3171625
>Has never been so horny that you can't think rationally

>> No.3171632

>>3171627
If she can still choose to have sex with someone and choose a partner, she can still form rational thoughts.

>> No.3171634

>>3171632
If she could think rationally she sure as hell wouldn't sleep with OP.
=> If she would sleep with OP she isn't able to think rationally

>> No.3171635

I don't think there are any chemicals or drugs that would make a person so horny they would fuck the first thing they see. But you can still use something like an afrodesiac (spelling?) and just flirt with her until she either wants to or not. It shouldn't be any different than giving somebody a drink so they can lighten up.

>> No.3171637

>>3171634
That's her and OP's issue then.

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>> No.3171641

>>3171595
It's not rape if she's crawling all over you telling you how good rubbing your fingers on her skin feels...

>> No.3171647

>>3171595
does it really do that? because I've never gotten horny or aroused, nor do I know anybody that has, off of it. just really emotional.

>> No.3171650

It's not rape if she's still alive afterwards.

>> No.3171652

Is it bad that the single, most surprising thing about I find about this thread is that OP called us "/sci9k/" without anybody yelling at him?

>> No.3171658

>is there a type of drug or chemical you could use to make a woman want to sleep with you?

I believe it's called a "6-figure paycheck".

>> No.3171659

okay, so it will be rape. Now what's the drug?

This "real" aphrodisiac.

>> No.3171660

>>3171658
You should mix that drug with "six-pack abs" as well.

>> No.3171662

/sci/ is really creepy

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>>3171652
I only just noticed that.
FFFFFFFFF

>> No.3171681

>>3171652
>>3171665
Because it becomes /sci9k/ each and every summer and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.

>> No.3171685

>>3171681
>Because it becomes /sci9k/ each and every summer
Has /sci/ even been around for more than one summer?