http://enenews.com/it-was-even-worse-than-the-worst-imagination-of-the-media-radiation-now-leaking-t hrough-cracks-in-the-containment-and-melted-holes-cnn-video So it was a 100% core meltdown. What happens now?

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Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:33:59 2011 No.3163470 [Reply] [Original]

http://enenews.com/it-was-even-worse-than-the-worst-imagination-of-the-media-radiation-now-leaking-t
hrough-cracks-in-the-containment-and-melted-holes-cnn-video
So it was a 100% core meltdown. What happens now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:35:59 2011 No.3163476 >michio kaku

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:36:59 2011 No.3163493
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>mfw everyone saying it would never meltdown like that were dead wrong

Yeah, I know it's bad news but I can't resist.
I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:39:59 2011 No.3163497 >>3163476 >Implying that changes the fact that they already said it was a 100% core meltdown bad news is bad news, no matter who tells you it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:40:59 2011 No.3163509 EVERYONE SHUT DOWN THE NUK-U-LUR PLANTS THEY IS DANEJURISS HURR

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:45:59 2011 No.3163533

Is there a more credible source here?

Look what I found in the comments of a related story...

this is supposedly a prophecy from someone in my church back in 1850 in Serbia. I can’t confirm if its true. Lets just pretend its created by a fellow commenter that sizes up these times and says “what if it gets worse and worse”. Interesting things to note on the bellow page: sea, air, land is poisoned (that’s a tall order but with Fukushima its happening now), eat the food and you die (fukushima additives on food are deadly), only those in a mountain that fast will survive (density from radiation…and don’t eat the radioactive food). I’ve been reading and rereading this prophecy for years(and others…there’s more on this site that are easier to historically claim as being original translations) and want to know what you guys think:

http://members.cox.net/orthodoxheritage/The%20Righteous%20Dimitri%20Tarabibicz.htm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:45:59 2011 No.3163535 >>3163509 but they are. look at what happened to japan. planet earth:1 humanity:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:48:59 2011 No.3163542 >>3163533 >Is there a more credible source here? >Look what I found in the comments of a related story... >this is supposedly a prophecy from someone in my church back in 1850 in Serbia. LOL WHAT nigga u srs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:48:59 2011 No.3163545 >triple core meltdown YOU FUCKED UP JAPAN YOU DUN GOOF'D

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:50:59 2011 No.3163558

>>3163542

skim the other comments, it's endless lulz

http://enenews.com/tepco-unit-no-1-is-in-a-state-of-meltdown-suspects-there-are-holes-in-bottom-of-r
eactor-video

I have to say the michio kaku video and "retard central" comments section make me distrust enenews as a source of information

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:51:59 2011 No.3163563
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mfw I read this.

This sucks, Germany has already vowed to shut down all nuclear power plants by 2022 because of this disaster. At this rate we'll be stuck on fossil fuels until our breaking point. Seriously Japan, wtf. Ruin nuclear energy for everyone, why don't you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:52:59 2011 No.3163570 >>3163535 Ah, so I guess we should stop using planes, too. They're dangerous. Every so many months a plane falls, killing dozens of persons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:52:59 2011 No.3163571 >>3163558 Well the actual video is from CNN And I know it's not exactly the best news station, and it's Michio Kaku, but they're not going to fabricate something like this out of nowhere.

>>	sage Thu Jun 2 16:54:59 2011 No.3163580 >Japan lies about meltdown >blame the scientists for not knowing derp

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:55:59 2011 No.3163591 FFS ppl please stop following whatever this retard Kaku is saying, he is just a attention hore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:58:59 2011 No.3163599 >>3163571 It's not that it's an outright fabrication, it's the conclusions they draw and the spin they put on it that's a little bit excessive... other sources seem a bit more level headed.

>>	LiberalTHEConservativeDestroyer !!RXq0MnWi8Hf Thu Jun 2 16:59:59 2011 No.3163607 >>3163509 >implying that would be a bad thing Name one good thing that nuclear energy has given us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:01:59 2011 No.3163611 >>3163607 umm... cheap energy ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:02:59 2011 No.3163616 /x/ is thata way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:02:59 2011 No.3163617 >>3163607 Clean energy If you're not buttfucking retarded like Japan or Russia, you don't get huge nuclear meltdowns.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:03:59 2011 No.3163623 >>3163533 http://www.presstv.com/detail/182908.html IAEA statement regrding Fukushima.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:04:59 2011 No.3163626 >>3163616 >nuclear meltdown >paranormal OH GODD HURR I'M SO FUCKING RETARDED HYURRRRRR

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:04:59 2011 No.3163630 Since this happened, I had the feeling to go there. I wanted to go in those abandoned towns and start a new life as a hunter. Is something wrong with me?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:05:59 2011 No.3163631 >>3163630 get out of here STALKER

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:06:59 2011 No.3163637 File: 37 KB, 625x362, 1279592440911.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3163626 >He thinks it "Destroyed da world" OH SHIT BAN NUCLEAR SAVE THE PLANET HACK THE PLANET HUR

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:06:59 2011 No.3163638 >>3163623 >dozens of victims in chernobyl Well, that's a nice way of putting it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:06:59 2011 No.3163639 File: 151 KB, 1000x1000, 1305039386241.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] that is all

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:31:59 2011 No.3163748

>>3163639

Dumbass

http://world-nuclear-news.org/RS_First_IAEA_report_on_Fukushima_0106111.html
>The handling of the Fukushima nuclear crisis was "exemplary," said a preliminary report from the International Atomic Energy Agency, and could eventually show "what can be achieved in responding to such extreme nuclear events."

No news of dripping uranium...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:35:59 2011 No.3163770 So EVEN in 3x 100% Melt downs using in 1959 GE tech... >"Oh wow it's absolutely" nothing happened. Great, lets green light nuclear. Nobody died and it took the 5th largest tectonic event in human history to occur. Containment gonna contain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:40:59 2011 No.3163785 ITT: right wing apologists

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:40:59 2011 No.3163787

Nuclear energy is never going to replace more than a fraction of the fossil fuel energy sources. All it will do is sit there, countries and politicans and the public will sit on their hands about disposal until there is another huge accident. 100 of these exact same plants worldwide- at sea level. Global warming sea rise, anyone? Plus the nuclear fuel is converted into weaponizable material.

It really comes down to the fact that humanity's reach has exceeded its grasp. We are just killing the planet now, unfolding the inertia of the last hundred years' fossil fuels boom coupled with a suicidal urge.

You're in a burning house and all the doors are locked surrounded by zombies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:40:59 2011 No.3163790 >>3163785 >nuclear power is political

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:41:59 2011 No.3163794 >>3163787 > We are just killing the planet now Good LORD, the conceit. The PLANET is just fine. WE are an arguable degree of fucked.

>>	GayEmoBetch !.pCLIFaWNg Thu Jun 2 17:44:59 2011 No.3163805 File: 29 KB, 550x400, lG670.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw Fossil Fuels in 2045 run out/depleted (2030 astronomical rise in price) and consumers run back to nuclear like an Ecstasy addicted slut'

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:44:59 2011 No.3163806 >>3163617 >Japan >Retarded >predict 9.0 earthquake sure, while we're at it, why haven't they learned to synthesize food from seawater yet? fucking idiots!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:49:59 2011 No.3163819 >>3163805 The problem is that there will be a LOT of suffering involved if we let supply fall like a rock first. Nuclear power plants can't be built overnight.

GayEmoBetch !.pCLIFaWNg Thu Jun 2 17:55:59 2011 No.3163851

>>3163819
At this point I'm fustrated by the political fixation on nuclear problems and LFTR "problems"

>Implying LFTR has ANY problems worth splitting hairs over.

Humans are more retarded than a toddler who puts his and on a hot stove coil. It's going to take geo political confrontation on depleted energy resources, before people look srsly to LFTR or the riskier uranium/plutonium breeders for countries who don't have thorium mines yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:55:59 2011 No.3163853 This is a lie. http://www.slideshare.net/iaea/summary-of-reactor-unit-status-2-june-2011 Here are the IAEA reports on fukushima as of today. no breaches, no catastrophe. cleanup is behind schedule but proceeding at a steady pace.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:56:59 2011 No.3163855

My civil engineering professor knows a guy who helped design there. An earthquake like that was apparently a 1000-2000 year event. Shit like this is not going to happen for a very long time most likely (there's always that chance). Although, the next big quake is supposed to be in California so we'll see how that goes. But like someone else said, containers gonna contain.

>>	Not corporate propaganda Anonymous Thu Jun 2 17:57:59 2011 No.3163861 Nuclear power is in no way incompatible with human life and anyone who says otherwise is a hurr.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:01:59 2011 No.3163886

>>3163861
It is in fact VERY compatible with human life.

We fucking need electricity, and unless we decide to burn coal and tires, we have no ther reliable way of getting it at the levels we need.

So, we have two choices.

1) Embrace nuclear and design better plants in safer areas.
2) ignore it and get shifted back to the pre-industrial era when we run out of ways to provide energy for our lifestyles and are forced to resort to shitting in holes in the ground and wiping our asses with corn husks, burning candles for light, and using iceboxes instead of refrigeration.

>>	GayEmoBetch !.pCLIFaWNg Thu Jun 2 18:02:59 2011 No.3163892 Reactor Containers gonna contain. Not a single fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:04:59 2011 No.3163900 >>3163886 >So, we have two choices. Oh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:08:59 2011 No.3163921 >>3163900 he's right. there's no practical alternative to nuclear power at present. renewables are expensive, unreliable, and they don't scale well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:09:59 2011 No.3163928 >>3163921 I've got hopes for solar-thermal. But the energy storage mechanisms need work, as well as the power grid, and we'll need nuclear for at least the next 50 years.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:09:59 2011 No.3163929

>>3163900
pretty much, yes.

I don't think "conservation" is a viable choice, because nobody will fucking do it, and "green" energy is not viable for the majority of the world.

We don't all live in a wind swept plains, sun parched plains, or next to waterfalls.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:18:59 2011 No.3163963

>>3163929
conservation is retarded honestly. If the West doesn't burn fossil fuels, then every other developing country will (ESPECIALLY China). After all the complaining about going to war for oil or whatever, it would be quite ironic to go to war to make people stop using oil which is what it would take haha.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:24:59 2011 No.3163981 >>3163963 That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. "Everyone else is fucking shit up, why can't I help fuck it up faster?"

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:31:59 2011 No.3164002

>>3163981
it would be cutting off your own leg so you starve slower.

America needs the energy to maintain power, if we conserve, china will gobble it all up and surpass us, then we'll ALL be without power and doomed anyway.

We need nuclear energy, or we need to start burning more coal and learn to live with the cetainty of radiation and toxins being released as a slow but constant rate instead of the probability that a plant might possibly go critical and maybe release an either large or small amount of radiation over a large or small area.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:33:59 2011 No.3164006 File: 17 KB, 211x211, 1302315851988.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3163921 >>3163886 samefag >I'll change my writing style and they'll never know!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:38:59 2011 No.3164023 We now realize that it melted n percents more.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:39:59 2011 No.3164026

>>3164002
No it's more akin to taking off a heavy winter coat during the middle of summer. There is egregious overuse of energy where it doesn't benefit anyone at all and it could easily be removed from the system without any serious setback.

Examples:
-Every public building with the AC set to 60F(15~C) so people basically have to wear sweaters inside.
-Street lighting that doesn't use LED and have twice as many lights as required.
-Extremely inefficient traffic control/design that causes millions of vehicles to idle hours every day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:44:59 2011 No.3164049 >>3164026 >Extremely inefficient traffic control/design that causes millions of vehicles to idle hours every day. how the hell would that be easily removed

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:46:59 2011 No.3164054

Technology creates problems, technolgoy solves problems.

>Nuclear power plants create radiation for thousands of years

Who cares? Look what progress medicine did in the last 200 years, in another 200 years we will be most likely be able to cure cancer and heal genetic mutations, so living in an area with higher radiation is no problem.

Trust a little more in technology, folks. Technology creates problems, technolgoy solves problems.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:49:59 2011 No.3164067

>>3164049
Not removed, replaced.

How long do you think it would take people to start using public transit if the government up'd the fuel tax and made public transit free(including adding way more routes)?

It would take millions of the cars off the road that didn't need to be there and would only require a small paradigm shift on the part of people. Not to mention it's a lot easier to shift a bus fleet to electric in the future then individual vehicles. As a plus you'd probably saved multi-billions on money that would otherwise have to be spent on infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:54:59 2011 No.3164093 Wow I thought you guys knew about science but then you hurp and derp about how great nuclear is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:55:59 2011 No.3164096 File: 99 KB, 612x698, counter_troll.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3164093 -9001/10 Not even trying.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 19:01:59 2011 No.3164119

>>3164026
Thats a population problem...

There are no alternatives (for now) except nuclear. Why can't we just build safer reactors?

The fact that developing countries are starting to build infrastructure for energy and are basically building the same as the West has it scares the hell out of me.

Thanks to India and China, conservation is useless. If you don't use this cheap (VERY cheap) oil than they will. Only option is to leave oil for them if they want it so bad and turn to better alternatives.

Right now, nuclear and fission is that alternative, sorry guys. And I would live next a reactor if I had to, so that we can get off the Arab's Oil dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 19:04:59 2011 No.3164128 >>3164049 electric cars

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 01:44:59 2011 No.3165854

>>3163851 Implying LFTR has ANY problems worth splitting hairs over.

Decommissioning a small scale reactor is approaching 20 years. You're a stupid asshole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten-Salt_Reactor_Experiment

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=5538&page=R1

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 01:53:59 2011 No.3165893 Worst accident in the last 25 years : 1 casualty, maybe 10 in the end, and a lot of bullshit OMG 10 mSv/y WE CAN'T LIVE HERE FOR ONE BILLION YEARS I definitely choose nuclear

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:12:59 2011 No.3165975 File: 28 KB, 640x351, smiling_robot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3163805 >yfw we're all robots that run on the sun by then

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:18:59 2011 No.3165997
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First Chernobyl ruined research for thorium reactors so we're 30 years behind and can't even manage to keep the shit in capsules and now Fukushima shocks the public once again and only the crazy Chinese commies started research.

I also find it ironic how there are tens of thousands of nuclear ballistic missiles in silos all over the country and nobody worries about it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:27:59 2011 No.3166036

>>3165854

That's not a LFTR reactor.

Also they let the fuel sit and fuck itself with decay products for 50 years without processing. Most reactors in use today would have fared far worse under such neglect.

LFTR does frequent fuel processing for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:27:59 2011 No.3166040 File: 2 KB, 126x95, batmancoffeecupwt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3165997 unactive nuclear ballistic missles are safe nuclear ballistic missles, there is also the fact that they are in protected bunkers

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:30:59 2011 No.3166058 File: 49 KB, 542x298, 129930145373.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3166040 >protected bunkers >containment vessels you went full retard never go full retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:37:59 2011 No.3166097 >>3166058 >implying a missile silo is not contained

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 03:33:59 2011 No.3166298 File: 18 KB, 385x383, 1302815327895.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3166040 >mfw murphy's law and human error don't exists in your universe you optimist faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 03:45:59 2011 No.3166324 File: 26 KB, 328x400, z19062318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3166298 >MFW murphy's law is physics

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 05:30:59 2011 No.3166538 File: 51 KB, 403x604, 9723_125451357910_736677910_2453487_4246242_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3166040 >unactive

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 05:44:59 2011 No.3166572 These are the guys that quote coast to coast.... http://enenews.com/nuclear-engineers-urging-iaea-to-create-level-8-on-ines-scale-for-fukushima "You should have gotten a Nobel price in science" lol

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