/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3141114]

So /sci/,
Engineering vs Architecture - which subject is more suitable and has better career prospects?
Architecture , of course , is more creative , but that does not mean you can't express your creativity on the side of working as an engineer.

Also I hear maritime engineering , whilst being kinda gay, is extremely lucrative with top captains earning upwards to £2mil

let's get a friggin debate going

[Anonymous No.3141149]

If you choose your career depending on how much money you will eventually make, then you're doing it wrong.

Do what you enjoy, money is ultimately irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.3141158]

I do enjoy both Architecture and Engineering. I like the sea and large ships too, so why not.

[Anonymous No.3141167]

Architecture allows for more artistic expression, which is a different , but equally valuable benefit.

[Anonymous No.3141739]

>>3141149

This.

Also, it depends on your work entirely as well. Architecture I would say is more expressive, but you can find some expressive projects as an engineer. We do lots of CAD which can allow you to be expressive. When making any product, you of course want it to have a good appearance and CAD is a way to do so.

But don't ever pick a job or especially a career path based on which makes more money. You'd be setting yourself up for a shitty future. You won't WANT to work, and you won't enjoy your work if money is all that you have going for it. Some people get paid much less and work much more, but are very content because work doesn't FEEL like work since they do what they love.

Architecture and engineering are very different topics, so find which one you enjoy more and make the decision based on that. But do check out industrial design as I mentioned.

Also, check out Industrial Design.

[Anonymous No.3141766]

Engineering FTW. I have a relative who are architects and they are not making very much money tbh. They like their job (they are more of a creative type). Unless you really, really have a passion for architecture, it's not worth the pay drop.

[Anonymous No.3141775]

>>3141114

Architecture is has bad career prospects. There are far more students than jobs.

Marine Engineering is pretty good money. And there is always people needed. The working conditions are pretty shit though.

Engineers don't get promoted to Captain ever. There are two career paths Deck and Engineering. The top engineering job is Chief Engineer on board ship.

[Anonymous No.3141785]

>>3141775
>There are far more students than jobs.

This. Don't go into it unless you reeeeally like it.

[Anonymous No.3141798]

>>3141149
This.

[Anonymous No.3141855]

>>3141149
>money
>irrelevant
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.3141964]

>>3141785
>There are far more students than jobs
They say the same about journalism, law and so on.
Besides architecture I think is not so popular these years as economy is in a downturn and clearly the housing industry is just starting to recover. It will back - a - boomin' when I finish my degree

[Anonymous No.3142013]

>>3141964
>assumes economy will be fixed in a year or two
>laughinggirls.jpg

[Anonymous No.3142056]

>>3141964 They say the same about journalism, law and so on.

And they're right.

Transferring from Engineering to Architecture later on will be easier than the other way round.

[Anonymous No.3143027]

>>3142013
3 to 4 years, bro
give it another year of internships and we'll accidentally fix'd the economy
>>3142056
You'll hardly be taken as a serious Architect if you transfer from engineering, since there's a predisposition of engineers being less creative (stereotyping is wrong - sure, but on average it just works out like that)

[Anonymous No.3143065]

>>3143027
>3 to 4 years, bro

Just in time for America's piling debt to GDP ratio, inflation, trade deficit, deregulated financial industry and next bubble to fuck everyone again.

Aw yeee.

[Anonymous No.3143209]

>>3143065

[Anonymous No.3143327]

It depends on what you mean by creativity. For engineers, finding new solutions to problems, designing new things, etc. requires creativity. The different kinds of engineering are pretty different though. Civil engineering = making large structures not fall and is less creative I would say. Electrical Engineering (my field) varies widely; there are huge opportunities for invention and it's cheap to make prototypes of new things, but there are also people who don't really want that. You should look at the different kinds of engineering degrees to know what you're interested in. I'm biased, but architects I've known are not too bright or well-paid, but obviously there are a few who become very successful. So as for career prospects, engineering is the clear winner, but as for what's suitable for you, you have to decide. If you won't enjoy engineering it's better to be an architect. (P.S. engineering classes are hard and they often try to weed people out the first year. You can always do architecture if you get weeded out.)

[pascal !n5Z3VuZapw No.3143349]

>>3143065
I don't mind the bubble economy. The cycles are starting to become predictable.

[Anonymous No.3143351]

>>3143027
After he graduates college no one would know that he had transferred from engineering. No one in the workplace gets judged by what majors they transferred from in college, only the degree they ended up with.

Also, it's probably better to have a job that doesn't involve long stretches of unemployment whenever the economy takes a dip.

[Anonymous No.3145560]

What do architects do , when the economy does take a downturn, do they have some sort of security policy?
>>3143327
>architects I've known are not too bright or well paid
Well I think one is the consequence of the other. If those guys had taken the stress, made the most out of those 3-4 years in university - they'd have come out bright as stars and gotten decent jobs with great career opportunities, prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.3145579]

>maritime engineering, whilst being kinda gay
>kinda gay

>navy and engineering combined

One time I saw 2 dudes kissing in the park and thought that was the gayest thing I would ever experience, but then I learnt about maritime engineering.

[Anonymous No.3145703]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3145995]

>>3145703
>>3145579
Very gay.

[Anonymous No.3146140]

Engineering would be a really difficult option for me , because my maths is far from fine. I did well in Biology however, so there may be some options in bioengineering.
Of all the subjects I'm best at philosophy lol , but it's career prospects sucks major balls.

[Anonymous No.3146160]

OP should do architecture, you seem like someone who would enjoy spending over 9000 hours in ms paint

[Anonymous No.3146295]

>>3146160
That's a long bloody time indeed.

[Anonymous No.3146305]

>Architecture, more creative
Are you serious?

[Anonymous No.3146319]

>>3146305
I'm as serious as you're trolling

[Anonymous No.3146337]

>>3146305
>0/11

[Anonymous No.3146391]

How much Physics and Maths is involved in architecture? Haven't been practising either for a long time and wasn't brilliant to begin with.
Is it just simple stuff, or would I need A levels in both subjects?

[Anonymous No.3146784]

2nd year Civil Engineer student here. The maths is ridicuossly easy I dont even have any math classes now that my second year is finished. It's the structural mechanics which is the killer in my opinion, though I do enjoy it. If your confident with your maths and physics then you should do fine. In my first year we got to design and build our own bridges and then test them to destruction which was pretty sweet. Vid related guys in my course testing their bridge.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlJ_VWvhsU&feature=channel_video_title
I have a few friends who do architecture and they have to write a shit load essays, whereas I only have to write lab reports up. They also dont get to do any drawing till there 3rd year I think lol.

[Anonymous No.3146793]

>>3146319
>>3146337
>have never had a real job doing 'engineering'

[Anonymous No.3146800]

Architecture is more work.

[Anonymous No.3146826]

>>3146800
Clearly has never had to analyse beams and frames using the slope deflection method

[Anonymous No.3146835]

>>3146826
Clearly does not know many architecture students.

[Anonymous No.3146863]

>>3146835
mfw when the people I hang about in my course are doing architectural engineering and therefore attend various architecture classes. Enjoy learning abut modernity and shit.

[Anonymous No.3146864]

architecture is 50% subjective arty bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3146879]

>>3146863
>implying that because classes are bullshit they arent a lot of work

[Anonymous No.3146942]

>>3146879
Shit could go on all day. OP if you like solving problems and appying maths/physics to real life scenarios then I say engineering. But since you said you aren't very good at maths/physics then engineering probs aint for you.

[Anonymous No.3147158]

>>3141149
>money is ultimately irrelevant.
>child detected

>>3141739
>But don't ever pick a job or especially a career path based on which makes more money. You'd be setting yourself up for a shitty future. You won't WANT to work
>implying I'll ever want to work

I hate when people spout this hippy money doesn't matter career bullshit. When you never get to retire or take that vacation or do that expensive hobby then you'll look back and want to kill yourself