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OP Fri May 27 21:32:01 2011 No.3133543 [Reply] [Original]

Since this is the science board I imagine some economist types are on here. People interested in current events...at least people capable of simple math.

I found this on the politics board, and it's interesting. I'd like to see how /sci/ solves America's budget deficit.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/13/weekinreview/deficits-graphic.html?choices=zw6krk50

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:33:01 2011 No.3133550 >implying this has anything to do with science

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:34:01 2011 No.3133555 >>3133543 inb4 but but but 911!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:37:01 2011 No.3133564 >>3133550 What's a better board to ask, then? I want intellectual responses.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:39:01 2011 No.3133584 We have four fucking economics threads. This is not economics. Shut the fuck up and gtfo. Where do you read economics in the world of science and math?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:40:01 2011 No.3133585 >economics >/sci/ >implying political party/agenda (tax rates, spending) can be correlated on a year to year basis >implying government revenue is strictly related to political party

Anonymous Fri May 27 21:48:01 2011 No.3133629

SS, Medicare/Medicaid.

Anyone who is even slightly intelligent or takes two seconds out of their day to actually look at the budget sees this as obvious. We spend more on social programs than European nations and they do less good. No politician from either party would dare mentioning either program these days, reform isn't even on the table.

Everyone educated knows what needs to be done. The chore is convincing all the laymen it needs to be done now. Unfortunately they are all too busy watching the jersey shore to care and they won't until the dollar is worthless.

You could try google literary everyone says this.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:51:01 2011 No.3133645 File: 23 KB, 243x246, fridge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Not putting politics in the fridge

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:53:01 2011 No.3133655 Voters act in response to the state of the economy. Voters are more likely to elect Democrats when they feel wealthy or optimistic and more likely to elect Republicans when they feel poor or otherwise insecure.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 21:56:01 2011 No.3133669 How is this even science?

Anonymous Fri May 27 21:57:01 2011 No.3133671
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This is a great picture OP! Could you bring it up to date? And put on the party that controlled the Congress and Senate and wrote the laws each year? That would really stick it to them!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:10:01 2011 No.3133729 >>3133629 Doing what exactly, cutting the programs?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:15:01 2011 No.3133751 >>3133729 im not him, but I'd give an opt out option to SS. I'd make money you put in = money you get out + a little more. (Extra money coming from progressive taxes)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:17:01 2011 No.3133754 File: 164 KB, 1396x681, PartyControlSenate.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3133671 Cheers.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:18:01 2011 No.3133760 File: 168 KB, 1399x706, PartyControlHouse.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3133671 >>3133754

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:20:01 2011 No.3133767 >>3133751 Then what's the point? Wouldn't that make is just another retirement savings program?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:26:01 2011 No.3133792 >>3133760 >>3133754 >>3133543 And the final graph is...?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:29:01 2011 No.3133812 >>3133792 ?

Anonymous Fri May 27 22:32:01 2011 No.3133827

So buttangry /new/fags have decided to fuck with /sci/ now. One of them posts a thread, and either it's samefag'd or others join in to stir the pot and then /sci/ gets trolled for 200posts.

You guys are too smart to fall for this. Stop replying to these threads. This is science and math not "Hey I wanted and 'intellectual' opinion on these provocative charts that have nothing to do with science."

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:32:01 2011 No.3133830 OP sure misses /new/, doesn't he? All with his herping and derping.

>>	OP Fri May 27 22:34:01 2011 No.3133843 >>3133827 >>3133830 The image wasn't meant to troll, it was seriously the first debt-related thing I could find in my political image folder. My apologies for being lazy...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:35:01 2011 No.3133851 >>3133760 >>3133754 >implying the republicans and dems of the late 1800's and early 1900's are the same as today Nice try.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 22:45:01 2011 No.3133898 >>3133851 Not implying jack shit, just showing the raw info. I'd be giddy as a schoolgirl if someone had a graphic showing the president, house makeup, senate makeup, and national debt by year.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 23:00:01 2011 No.3133943 File: 77 KB, 733x535, debt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dems = Repubs... People who are dem fanboys = People who are repub fanboys = Biggest fucking idiots who should be sterilized...

>>	Adeist Fri May 27 23:01:01 2011 No.3133947 >>3133943 correlations =/= causation

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 23:06:01 2011 No.3133961 >>3133947 so... anthropogenic global warming is a sham?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 23:08:01 2011 No.3133971 >>3133947 Did I say anything was correlated? No. Did I say anything resulted from something else? No. Are you just saying things?

>>	Adeist Fri May 27 23:09:01 2011 No.3133973 >>3133961 so... worrying about severe weather change is stupid?

Anonymous Fri May 27 23:15:01 2011 No.3133992
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>>3133629
>implying social security and medicare benefit the laymen and not the Medical Industry
>implying government would ever cut that Trillion Dollar handout to their cronies

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 23:23:01 2011 No.3134034 >>3133961 >doesn't understand "correlation =/= causation"

>>	Anonymous Fri May 27 23:25:01 2011 No.3134039 >>3133943 TY FOR THE PIC

Anonymous Sat May 28 01:04:01 2011 No.3134342

>>3133629

You guys know that social security actually generates a SURPLUS right? its very ignorant to say its part of the problem, either that or outright dishonest.

The thing is, they spent the surplus. All of it. Forever, by making it part of the normal budget, so now, its no longer self sustaining.

Anonymous Sat May 28 01:26:01 2011 No.3134420
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>>3134342
yep

Just like oligarchs(and apologists) with their "top n% pay y% of INCOME TAX" rhetoric, conveniently forgetting to mention that payroll taxes account for as large a share of federal revenue

>>	Anonymous Sat May 28 10:02:01 2011 No.3135670 >>3134342 You talking about LBJ?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 28 10:07:01 2011 No.3135679 Spend less than you earn.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 28 13:38:01 2011 No.3136450 >>3133585 >Implying that government tax rate and spending isn't determined by who is in power

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