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3104876 No.3104876 [Reply] [Original]

Psychology is the basis of human understanding.

>> No.3104895

>>3104876
>Philosophy

>> No.3104900

Keep clicking after you get to philosophy.

>> No.3104909

Nope. Sometimes you will get stuck in a loop.

>> No.3104908

>>3104900
Goes back to philosophy after a click or two.

>> No.3104921

>>3104909
what kind of loop?

>> No.3104941

explain

>> No.3104947

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_philosophy

OH DARN YOU OP!!

>> No.3104950

>>3104921
Like, you click a link that leads to a page which leads back to the page you just left.
You know, like a loop.

Like,
Dildos > Dicks > Dildos
Where dildos links to dicks, which leads back to dildos. They could also be larger, like

Dildos > Dicks > Jizz > Vagina > Dildo

>> No.3104951

I always reach "Science" first and from there get to philosophy (after some clicks).

>> No.3104953

because you always end up at "property" which redirects to philosophy and since "property" is commonly used...

>> No.3104969

>>3104950

No, dildos -> engineer -> gay -. ....

>> No.3104970

>>3104951
Yeah, I've done this for a few articles now, and I have always reached science before philosophy.

>> No.3104976

Neuroscience is OP. But Psychology is a good start.

>> No.3105003

>>3104876
I started at a film director's page and ended up at Mathematics before Science or Philosophy

>> No.3105101

>>3104976
i misspelled psychology and wrote phycology
>mfw it still worked

>> No.3105141

Started on an article about ammonium, went through a whole host of math/science related stuff, then abruptly ended up at philosophy.

Bricks were shat.

>> No.3105150
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3105150

Neurotoxin -> Toxin -> Poison -> Biology -> Natural Science -> Science -> Knowledge -> Facts -> Information -> Sequence -> Mathematics -> Quantity -> Property -> Modern Philosophy -> Philosophy

Wow it actually works.

>> No.3105155

Someone needs to edit the Math and Quantity articles and destroy this link once and for all.

>> No.3105170

Wow.

Sacred Mountains of China > Taoism > Philosophy

>> No.3105182

>>3105155
yeah u mad

>> No.3105186

Try Pokemon for a real trip. It works.

>> No.3105187

1. Start at Philosophy
2. Click the first link of each article until you reach Philosophy again

These are articles you're guaranteed to reach no matter which page you start with, because you can get to them through Philosophy. Therefore, every page you reach in this loop is just as fundamental as Philosophy.

>> No.3105188

>>3105170
i lold

>> No.3105196

>>3104876
Somebody needs to make a graph of all of Wikipedia's articles and prove this conjecture mathematically

>> No.3105224

Tommy Peoples
Ireland
List of European islands by area
Continent
Landform
Landmass
Earth science
Science
Knowledge
Fact
Information
Sequence
Mathematics
Quantity
Property
Modern Philosophy
Philosophy

>well

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3105241

HMS Welland (1904) -> River Class Destroyer -> Ship Class -> USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) -> United States Navy -> Naval Warfare -> Combat -> Violence -> Psychological Manipulation -> Social Influence -> Conformity -> Unconscious Mind -> German Philosophy -> Philosophy

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3105255

Art > Symbol > Numeral System > Writing system > Symbolic system > Anthropology > Natural science > Science > Knowledge > Fact > Information > Sequence > Mathematics > Quantity > Property (philosophy) > Modern Philosophy > Philosophy

I still say it cheated though since the first instance of "symbol" was obviously meant to be a metaphorical symbol whereas in the article on symbol it starts off assuming you want to know about mathematical symbols.

>> No.3105270

I did this for a while and I got a loop once...two articles that led back to each other. I forget what they are now, but they do exist.

>> No.3105283

Well, if you click enough times, you can get to basically anything you morons, let alone an entire academic concept.

>> No.3105302

>>3105283
>if you click enough times, you can get to basically anything you morons
You're calling us morons? See >>3105187
Once you get to Philosophy, you can only go through a particular set of pages before you get to Philosophy again. For example, it's impossible to get from Philosophy to, say, Super Mario Brothers.

>> No.3105323

remington rifle
/thread

>> No.3105331

>>3105302
Can you offer up a proof for that?

>> No.3105341

>>3105331
Huh? It's trivial to see for yourself. Go to Philosophy. Click the first link over and over. Eventually you'll get back to Philosophy. Durr.

>> No.3105351

>>3105341
You may want to think before you type.

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3105361

>>3105341
>asked for proof
>HURR DURR EXPERIMENTATION!

>> No.3105354

>>3105283
>>3105331
Philosophy
Rational argument
Philosophy
Rational argument
etc...

>> No.3105363

Menschheit
Mensch
Systematik (Biologie)
Biologie
Naturwissenschaft
Wissenschaft
Wissen
Wahrheit
Wirklichkeit
Meister Eckhart
Spätmittelalter
Spätmittelalter
Geschichte Europas
Geschichte
Menschheit

>> No.3105375

>>3105302
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323
>>3105323


Eliphalet Remington > philosohpy

>> No.3105395

>>3105351
>>3105361
Okay idiots, here's your fucking proof. These are all of the pages in "Philosophy" loop, in order, according to the rules set by the OP.

Philosophy
Rational Argument
Faculty
Faculty (division)
University
Higher Education
Academy
Plato
Classical
Culture
Alfred Kroeber
American/United States
Federalism
Politics
Collective Decisions/Group decision making
Individual
Person
Human
Taxonomy
Science
Knowledge
Fact
Information
Sequence
Mathematics
Quantity
Property
Modern Philosophy
Philosophy

>> No.3105406

New Year

Fail

>> No.3105410

>>3105351
>>3105361

>Implying a repeated experiment that will take less than ten minutes is not better than waiting for someone else to do the experiment for you.

>> No.3105430

Bronco UK --> Jess Roden --> Kidderminster --> Wyre Forest (district) --> Districts of England --> Subdivisions of England --> Administrative division --> Political division -->Technical Terminology --> Vocabulary --> Word --> Languege --> Communication --> Meaning --> Aristotle --> Greeks --> Nation --> Sovereign State --> State --> Social Terms --> Umbrella terms --> Subset .--> Mathamatics -> Quantity --> Property --> Modern Phylosophie --> Philosophie

shit took too long.

>> No.3105440

>>3105351
>>3105361
It's a claim in a very specific case that's independently verifiable with very little effort in a matter of minutes. Experimentation is not only the easiest method of demonstration here, it's the most reliable.

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3105456

>>3105361

>> No.3107568

P0RN0GRAPHY > sexual (redirect -> sexual intercourse) > male reproductive organ (redirect -> Penis) > vertebrates > subphylum > taxonomic rank > biological classification > biologists > scientist > systematic > system components (redirect -> component) > electronic components > electronic > SCIENCE > knowledge > facts > information > sequence > MATHEMATICS > quantity > property > modern philosophy > PHILOSOPHY - win :)

>> No.3107581

oh and did you notice that it takes 23 steps from p0rn0graphy to philosophy?

proof that the illuminati invented pron

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3107610

mfw Philosophy -> Reason -> Rationality -> Philosophy infinite loop.

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3108728

4chan>English language> West Germanic languages>Germanic>Indo European>language family>language>communication>meaningful>Aristotle>Greeks>nation>Sovereign state>state>social sciences>umbrella term>subset>mathematics>quantity>quality>Aristotle

Well shit, I'm in an infinite loop.
It worked when I tried "nigger".

>> No.3108753

Rape-Sexual Assault-Assault-Law-System-Component-Electronic Component-Electronics-Science-Knowledge-Fact-Information-Sequence-Mathematics-Quantity-Quality-Philo
sophy

I thought Law would get me right there, but I had a fucking electronic detour.

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3108757

"Lionel Atwill" ultimately leads to a loop involving languages, and never reaches philosophy.

>> No.3108769

Garbage Collector-Waste Collector-Waste-Litter-Islamic Empire-Caliphate-Ummah-Arabic Language-Language-Communication-Meaning-Aristotle

>> No.3108795

>>3108757
Lionel Atwill
England
Country
Geography
Earth
Planet
Orbit
Physics
Natural science
Science
Knowledge
Fact
Information
Sequence
Mathematics
Quantity
Quality (philosophy)
Philosophy

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3108799

Psychology > Hitler

Shortened that for you

>> No.3108801

Holy shit...it does.

Thor Heyerdahl-Norway-Nordic countries-Atlantic Ocean-Ocean-Seawater-Salinity-Water-Chemical substance-Chemistry-Science-Knowledge-Fact-Information-Sequence-Mathematics-Quantity-Philosophy

>> No.3108827

Recursion -> Recursion -> Recursion ...

>> No.3108829

>>3105395
>Faculty

This isn't a link in the Reason article.

>> No.3108834

Started on K-on(japanese anime) and ended up on philosophy.

>> No.3108862

BUT WE ALL DO SORT OF THE SAME THING.

AND THAT IS REARRANGE WHAT YOU THOUGHT WAS REAL.

AND THEY REMIND YOU OF THE BEAUTY OF VERY SIMPLE THINGS.

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3108865

>>3108795
Damn, you're right. I took wrong turns at Geography and Quality. I stand corrected.

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3108877

Success

>> No.3108887

Here's a reverse of the idea, starting from a random article and following the last link in the page that isn't clerical crap or lists of things

Rodeo
Chris LeDoux
Cheyenne Frontier Days
Union Pacific Railroad
United States Environmental Protection Agency
Superfund
PubMed
Correction (newspaper)
Warner Bros. Records
Liz Rosenberg
Fine Arts Work Center
Jack Tworkov
Provincetown, Massachusetts
Vampire Weekend (album)
Brooklyn
Grand Army Plaza

>> No.3108917

Stuttgart Flughafen/Messe station
Stuttgart S-Bahn
Stuttgart Region
Metropolitan regions in Germany
Federal Republic of Germany
Western Europe
Europe
Continent
Landmass
Landform
Earth Science
Science
Knowledge
Fact
Information
Sequence
Mathematics
Quantity
Property
Modern Philosophy
Philosophy

>> No.3108926

>>3105150
>>3105224
>>3105255
>>3105395
>>3107568
>>3108753
>>3108795
>>3108801
>>3108917

Also note that most of the time, you end up on Mathematics along the way.

>> No.3108966
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3108966

Took 18 clicks, but I got it.

Canada - North America - North - Noun - Linguistics - Human - Taxonomy - Science - Knowledge - Fact - Information - Sequence - Mathematics - Quantity - Property (Philosophy) - Modern Philosophy - Philosophy

Pic related

>> No.3109734

ALWAYS goes through MATHEMATICS.

I am sorry /sci but Maths is the basis for human understanding

>> No.3109760

>>3104876
I ended up in a never ending cycle in the wiktionary.

>> No.3109767

No.3108966
Science
Organization
Corporation
Open Loop
State
Social Sciences
Umbrella term
Superset
Mathematics
Quantity
Quality
Aristotle
Greek
Nation
Sovereign State
State
Close loop

>> No.3109780

>>3108926
>>3109734

However mathematics is simply applied philosophy.
Have fun doing mathematics without logic.

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3109798

>>3109780
philosophers taking credit for math is like the dude who invented the hammer taking credit for every great building that was ever made.

We get it. Some greek dude 3000 years ago who called himself a philosopher (back when that was something to be proud of) was the first person to actually write down the law of modus ponens etc.

Name one thing the development of "mathematical logic" has done for the rest of mathematics. Godel's theorem is nice and everything, but it's applications inside of math are basically nil.

>> No.3109809

>>3109767
Mathematics
Quantity
Quality (disambiguation)
Quality (business)
loop:
{Pagmatic (wiktionary)
pragmatique}

i have no clue how you got aristotle.

>> No.3109808

>>3109767
There is no loop, you're fucking retarded. I started with science and landed on philosophy.

>> No.3109812

>>3109780
ILLOGICAL MATHS, THE NEXT REVELATION
Maths is what you define it to be. Less and less I believe it to be universal.

>> No.3109821

>>3109812
All of math follows (pretty much) from 1+1=2. Are you saying there are parts of the universe where 1+1=5?

>> No.3109825

>>3109808
Then you're doing it wrong.

>> No.3109827

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pragmatic

You get stuck in a loop

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3109830

Psychology is applied biology, anthropology and sociology. Which are applications of physics and Chemistry, which are application of Philosophy and Maths

>> No.3109832

>>3109798

Maths trying to be independent of philosophy is like the hammer trying to differentiate itself from the other tools.

I get it, many people hate certain aspects of philosophy, whether it is the relativity or just outrageous metaphysical claims. But the simple fact is philosophy is broad, and although certain areas may not make sense to you, you have to use other areas in order to make sense..

Math and science is not independent of philosophy, they are synonymous.

>> No.3109853

>>3109827
That's not Wikipedia you fucking asshole. jesus fucking christ, are you really this stupid?

>> No.3109860

>>3109832
I never said it was independent, just that it's been centuries since any philosopher has made any contributions to mainstream, cutting edge math. Instead, they write giant-ass books with 200 page proofs that 1+1=2 that noone reads or really cares about.

>> No.3109875

>>3109860

Well that wholly depends on how you perceive philosophers. Scientists and mathematicians are all philosophers, the nature of philosophy has changed since those centuries ago.

>> No.3109894

>>3104876
Started out on "List of animals with fraudulent diplomas", ended up on "Mathematics", and henceforth into a non-terminating loop that kept bringing me back.
nope.avi

>> No.3109897

boromir>jrr tolkien>order of british empire>chivalric order>knight>warrior>combat>violence>psychological manipulation>social influence>conformity>unconscious mind>German philosophy>philosophy

Interesting...

>> No.3109926

>>3109875

I mean look at today's theoretical physicists, they are generally far more 'out there' than most, it's like the new metaphysics

>> No.3109958

>>3109926

No. Just because we human's can't yet explain observed phenomena dons't mean it's not physics.

On a side note does anyone know if the story about the origin of the term metaphysics(the section in the library after physics) is true. Something my philosophy professor told me.

>> No.3109994

It doesnt work

Mathematics>Quantity>Quality (at this point you enter a disambiguation)>Quality Business (Its the first link, so you take this one, not the fucking philosophy one which is clearly cheating>Skip the wiktionary link for being stupid and go to conformance testing>software testing>Software bugs>failure

The rest is obvious and goes RIGHT BACK TO MATHEMATICS

I just got bored of writing it out for idiots

>> No.3110022

>>3108887

I like this

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptography
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_service_provider
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-net
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester,_New_York
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Cities_International
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulder,_Colorado
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Merchant
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Crouch
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_Clancy
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Crouch

Peter Crouch is eternal

>> No.3110088

I did this twice, both times starting with two random articles, and both times I ended up stuck in a loop at the Wiktionary entry for "pragmatic"

Pragmatism son, the root of everything.

>> No.3110112

wrong I got to genre

>> No.3110195

It doesn't work for the article on "Quantity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity

>> No.3110226

Wrong.
>South African Class 32-000
>Transnet Freight Rail
>Rail transport in South Africa
>Transport
>Airway
>Respiratory system
>Animal
>Eukaryote
>Organism
>Biology
>Natural science
>Science
>Organization
>Corporation
>State(polity)
>Social sciences
>Umbrella term
>Subset
>Mathematics (This is where it starts repeating)
>Quantity
>Quality
>Quality(business)
>Conformance testing
>Software testing
>Software bug
>Failure
>Condition
>Material conditional
>Truth function
>Mathematical logic
>Mathematics


Math is the basis of human understanding.

>> No.3110229

>>3110088
concur. same thing happened to me