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3058696 No.3058696[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Agnostics win. Peace out.

>> No.3058706

ohlookitsthisthreadagain.jpg

>inb4 200 posts

>> No.3058705

oh, it's a genious

>> No.3058709

Can't disprove unicorns either, doesn't make the chance of them existing 50/50

also sage

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>> No.3058718

>>3058696

That's exactly why I believe that God doesn't exist, which is exactly why I am an atheist.

>> No.3058721

Agnosticism is not a third option. You either believe or you don't.

/thread

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3058728

>>Everyone who thinks unicorns don't exist is stupid.
>>You can't prove they don't.
>>Agnosticism for the win.

>> No.3058731

>>3058721

Unless you're an agnostic, you live on faith.

/thread

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3058732

Define agnosticism.

>> No.3058736

You can prove and disprove Zenon's Paradox

>> No.3058743

>>3058731
>1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

>> No.3058748

You can't prove or disprove anything with 100% certainty. Ever.
/thread

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3058751

>Disprove

Devil's PROOF.

>> No.3058753

>>3058732
Stop posting that 4 quandrant bullshit picture. It's bullshit. That's not how the terms are defined.

>> No.3058757

>>3058748
What about observations? By observation, you seem like you fall out of a window as you step out of it.

>> No.3058764

Mfw retards on 4chan think they are so cool by saying "hurr agnostics are atheists , you believe or you dont"

Nope. Agnosticism is its own thing. Its not Agnostic-Atheism. Stop trying to convince yourself you are the best. Atheists are the most ignorant people out of them all.

>> No.3058771

>>3058753
There are two ways i have seen agnosticism, theism and atheist be described.

1. One dimensional. Spectrum of "belief there is no god" to "belief there is god".

2. Two dimension. Belief axis, knowledge axis.

I asked him to explain which of the two he was speaking of, not to impose a certain one upon him.

>> No.3058779

>>3058696
You can't prove a negative, typically.

Athiests win. Agnostics are without knowledge.

>> No.3058785

The absence of evidence does not mean the evidence of absence.

>> No.3058789

>>3058753
it's fact you retarded.
it's based on both etymology and history
even if you analize the context, it's fits perfectly

>> No.3058791

>>3058779

i'd rather be without knowledge than be with bullshit knowledge.

>> No.3058799

>>3058785
True.

And absence of a means of a way to determine whether or not God exists doesn't mean that you can't prove God's existence at all.

Which is why Agnosticism is stupid.

>> No.3058804

>Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

THATS ALL IT MEANS.

Its not " huRrRr agnostic-atheist HURrRrR" , " You need to pick a side"

NO!!!!!

>> No.3058807

>>3058799
Exactly, but until you can, you simply cannot.

As simply as it sounds, its true.

>> No.3058808

>>3058764
Are you an agnostic? If so, do you believe in any God?

>> No.3058809

>>3058799
Agnosticism doesn't mean no way exists to find out if a god exists. It is simply accepting the fact that you are ignorant at the moment, hence having belief is illogical.

>> No.3058810

>>3058789
No it's not you fucking idiot. Huxley when he coined the term agnostic meant it as something in stark contrast to theism and atheism.

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>>3058696
YOUR LOGIC FAIL:

You can't prove or dispove we live in the MATRIX.
Therefore we should take it as a valid option!

>> No.3058818

Pretty sure "god" could prove he existed, if he actually did.

>> No.3058819

>>3058808
>Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

>is unknown or unknowable.

>is unknown or unknowable.

>is unknown or unknowable.

>is unknown or unknowable.

>> No.3058820

>>3058804
>Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

Yes, but pretty much all Atheists agree on this. And the fact that the Gods aren't proven, they don't believe. Why believe in something for which there is no proof? Especially a supernatural claim.

>> No.3058823

>>3058819
That doesn't answer the question. Do you believe in a God or not?