/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3036999]

Boob thread got me thinking.

Hypothetical situation:

Technology base has advanced enough that personal androids are as ubiquitous as televisions are today. Even the poor can have a decent, working model or two for the house.

Models designed to be aesthetically pleasing and/or designed for sex are a given.

What would you prefer your android to look like? Some particular standard of "beauty" or "sexiness" unique to your personal perceptions, or something randomized to a certain extent, including "human" flaws?

Would you have a Ginger or a Maryanne?

Or perhaps the statistical "average" that many people seem to find particularly intriguing?

[Anonymous No.3037008]

I'd make it look like my dead mother.

[Anonymous No.3037011]

Sorry if that seemed gender biased, the question does apply to both genders.

[Anonymous No.3037019]

>sex robots
Who cares, even if these things get built 95% of the population will still be living in poverty and resource depletion will ensure they are prohibitvely expensive.

[Anonymous No.3037035]

>>3037019
That is outside this hypothetical situation as stated, sir.

[Anonymous No.3037040]

[Anonymous No.3037041]

in order to keep the human race going?

I would prefer my sex-bot to have a chamber to store my semen, than she and a male sex-bot would have robot sex, and he would draw my semen up into himself, which he would then deposit into his owner with her consent.

other than that I would have any number of progressively horrible things built into my sex-bot.

[Anonymous No.3037043]

[Anonymous No.3037048]

Ideally, it would look like this

[Anonymous No.3037049]

Not necessarily "sex bots" but it is pretty much a given that they would be used for sex.

[Anonymous No.3037054]

>>3037048
You want your sex robot to look like a TARDIS?

[Anonymous No.3037059]

Do you imagine that there would be a "normal" body type convergance? Or that each robot would be such a complete custom job tailored (and re-tailored) to match their owners' tastes that each would be incomprehensibly bizarre to anyone else?

[Anonymous No.3037060]

>>3037049

They would be primarily used for sex, those that aren't wouldn't look human.

it would be stupid to assume otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3037065]

I'd get a female with short hair, dress her in boy clothes and have an awesome fembro that can beat me in any videogame.

And I want cannabiod receptors installed no matter what.

[Anonymous No.3037068]

>>3037060
All of human civilization is designed around human beings and the human form.

What makes you think any other form would possibly be better suited to function in it, especially in a household setting.

[Anonymous No.3037072]

>>3037059
Well, one would assume that it would have replaceable body parts... fuck Sandra Bullock one day, fuck Amy Pond the next.

Tit size would presumably be connected to a liquid resivoir which would adjust them depending on body type wanted. Hips/ass would change size using the same mechanism.

[Anonymous No.3037077]

>>3037065
Oh, and throw in hipster glasses for irony.

[Anonymous No.3037082]

>>3037068

Well, you would be fucking them if they looked human.

The only robots you wouldn't be fucking are those that didn't look human. And even then, you might fuck them.

[Anonymous No.3037084]

>>3037065
>Wants a robot to smoke his weed
The fuck?

[Anonymous No.3037089]

Bitch, it is the FUTURE. I want my androids polished.

[Anonymous No.3037090]

>>3037084
No shit. Easier to program it with a "getting high" mode, and have it pretend to take a hit.

[Anonymous No.3037096]

highly advanced androids will never happen...case in point:

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FLYING CAR

[Anonymous No.3037097]

Kryten, the android in Red Dwarf, explained that original models were life like but people didn't like them, so he was specifically designed not to look human. I'd say there could be some truth in that, something that looks life like but isn't alive yet acts lifelike is inherently creepy.

[Anonymous No.3037102]

>>3037084
Hey, I want to get high with my brobot.

[Anonymous No.3037118]

>>3037097
In the Robots series by Asimov, two known perfectly human-looking androids were made. Inhuman androids numbered in the tens of billions.

While at first this was because the inventor didn't allow the production of more, they never did produce more than a few in thousands of years. Except on one planet, but the people there could arguably be said to not be human.

[Anonymous No.3037156]

>>3037065
homosexual much?

artificial intelligence will rise, look down on humanity as you would look at a nasty, poisonous bug on your shirt and <flick> go on it's merry way into the future.
All this crap about robots/androids is as archaic as discussion of what kind of steam powered craft should be used to go to the moon.

[Anonymous No.3037163]

>>3037156
Who said anything about AI.

[Anonymous No.3037173]

If they gave these things intelligence, they would be a step above real women

[Anonymous No.3037175]

>no mention of furfags
/sci/ i am proud

[Anonymous No.3037186]

>>3037173

I would if that would make the sex worse?

[North! !/RC/Wj9Ve. No.3037192]

one with a construction something like "I, Robot", but with living/artificial tissue ala Terminator. I'd want it to have human-level AI, so I could talk to it and have meaningful conversation. It'd look human, apart from subtle variances, such as a small port for backing up it's AI in case of emergency. It'd be instilled with the three laws, but the ability to override them. I'd try to teach it right from wrong and let it make it's own decisions about it's life, all the while learning about it alongside it.

[Anonymous No.3037193]

>>3037068

In a household setting a human form would be best. outside of the house the robot would be better designed for it's specific function.

It's unlikely that we will have 'general purpose' robots when a single purpose robot would be far more efficient. Flying drones for instance will be extremely efficient at security and recording... there is no reason for these to look human.

Maintainance and cleaning robots would also be hampered by looking human.

[Anonymous No.3037225]

>>3037193
And now I wish for every sci-fi movie from now on to include this thought in the producing.

[Anonymous No.3037232]

>>3037175
That's because it's unnecessary to mention it.

[Anonymous No.3037245]

>>3037193

>Maintainance and cleaning robots would also be hampered by looking human.

plus people would be raping them all the time, or at the very least uploading hand-job subroutines.

[Anonymous No.3037276]

>>3037245
Three letters: ECM.

[Anonymous No.3037287]

I'll be honest, OP...
If I were to have a few androids, I'd want them to be vaguely doll-like in appearance and mannerism, and I'd want them to be lolis. Not for any sort of sexual thing... just because it'd make them super huggable and the more obviously inhuman traits would help reduce the uncanny valley effect.

[Anonymous No.3037298]

>>3037276

>"Hand-job subroutine detected"
>"hand job subroutine 50% comple...ERROR: FOREIGN SOFTWARE"
>"Increasing grip to five zero six zero newtons per square millimeter."
>"Hand job subroutine complete"

[Anonymous No.3037320]

>>3037298
>Applying torque.

[Anonymous No.3037343]

>>3037298
>>3037320
The mere thought itself made me cringe.

[Anonymous No.3037353]

>>3037343
Fission mucking accomplished.

[Anonymous No.3037357]

>>3037353
ECM is always the solution.

[Anonymous No.3037365]

>>3037357
ECM?
inb4newfag

[Anonymous No.3037366]

>>3037156

As always in these situations, Star Trek is essentially correct. They most probably won't be able to override humanity, its not like a Terminator film. There won't become a stage where our AI becomes suddenly as free thinking and intelligent as us out of nowhere. It will always be a gradual change, like a modern day computer program.

Pretty much like Data. He's smart and self aware but only acts how he was programmed to. He makes decisions but isn't truly properly sentient he just looks it and makes decisions.

[Anonymous No.3037412]

I would have a lovely asian maid with no sexual facilities what so ever.
Fucking robots is creepy.
Relationship is much more important than sex.

[Anonymous No.3037413]

>>3037365
Electronic Countermeasures.

Basically electronic devices to counter electronic devices. Like an antivirus program, just hardware instead.

[Anonymous No.3037421]

OP already posted this thread in /g/. I wonder how many other boards he posted it in.

[Anonymous No.3037425]

>>3037421
>/g/
pigdisgusting

[Anonymous No.3037432]

>>3037366

That's just a philosophical zombie argument.

[Anonymous No.3037434]

>>3037421
Actually, that was me. I got inspired by this thread to post it there.

[Anonymous No.3037440]

>>3037421
Actually I didn't. Someone may have reposted it though.

Unless you mean it was a while ago...in which case it was just two minds thinking alike.

[Anonymous No.3037442]

>>3037413
Ah, damn. Now I feel dumb.
>mfw I thought that's what it was, then decided that it must be something different.
Second-guessing is my worst enemy.

[Anonymous No.3037443]

>>3037434
>>3037440
oh hi

[Anonymous No.3037453]

>>3036999

If I wanted a beautiful android I'd use a face averaging program.

Basically what you do is choose 10 women you find attractive and then create a composite woman based on the average features of all 10. This will create something unique but beautiful.

http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/beauty_is_in_the_processing-time_of_the_beholder/

[Anonymous No.3037463]

>>3037453
I think these "averaged" faces look strange and slightly unnerving.
I wouldn't want something like that walking around my home

[Anonymous No.3037492]

>>3036999
i would not want a humanoid form at all, its not ideal-

-that is, not ideal for ME having a great time, which would be all that would matter with sexxxing a robot.

Also there's no reason to attempt the illusion of being with a human. Much like the earliest cars with enclosed passenger areas tended to look like horse-drawn carriages without the horses. It was not the ideal layout, but it took car buyers and car companies a couple decades to see that.

something along the lines of a giant slug would be much better. id almost need to draw a picture (and due to lazyness thats not likely to happen)

[Anonymous No.3037495]

So, love bots eh?
I asume that these machines would be used to provide company, love, caring ect. for their owners, in addition to sex.
So if these robots are programmed to love with owners, this would cause other emotions too, such as lonlines and sadnes, resulting from the absence of the target of their affection and happines when in his presence.

So if these robots have programmed, unconditional love for their owner, this gives the owner the ability to horribly abuse these machines.

A sadistic owner could leave the machine alone for weeks, without the company of it's owner causing it horrible sadnes, beat the machine to submission ect.

Sadistic people would find endles ways to harm these machines, if they are programmed with emotions. Of course, one could say that it would be irrelevant, because the robot emotions aren't real. They are just programmed. This satement, of course ignores the fact that our own emotions are also "programmed" by the genes.

In the end, if we ever buid inteligent humanlike machines with emotions, we must first solve this moral dilemma.

[Anonymous No.3037507]

>>3037495

>In the end, if we ever buid inteligent humanlike machines with emotions, we must first solve this moral dilemma.

No we don't.

We can make machines which appear to have emotions but don't really have them

[Anonymous No.3037508]

>>3037495
Better to have them release their inner sick fuck on pretend humans rather than real ones.
Hardly a dilemma.

[Anonymous No.3037523]

>>3037495
Honestly, I see no moral dilemma.

RELEVANT TO THIS THREAD(adult content):

http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated/Year2004/47678

http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated/Year2002/37449

http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated/Year2002/37209

http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated/Year2003/45065

[Anonymous No.3037529]

>>3037495
no different than people torturing sims. If you can afford a new android, make a snuff film with it, who cares.

[Anonymous No.3037544]

>>3037507

But how would you know that their apparent emotions would be fabrications?
You can't even tell that when observing other humans.

How would these "fake" emotions differ from the "real" emotions?
Van we even say that we ourselves have these "real" emotions, when we know for a fact that they are caused by chemical reactions in brains that are coded by our DNA?

>>3037508
Even if the machine isn't human, allowing them to be abused is allowing a possibly self conscious being to suffer from pointles emotional pain.
Even if the emotions are programmed, the machine would still experience them, and from it's point of view, those emotions would be very "real". From it's perspective, the person it is madly in love with, is causing it massive suffering, for no apparent reason other than cruelty. Despite this, the robot can't help but to love it's abuser.

Also, you must realise that your argument could be used to defend animal abusers too?

[Anonymous No.3037554]

>>3037544
Animals are biological, made of flesh and bone, robots are not.
It's different.

[Anonymous No.3037555]

>>3037544

Uh.

Do you believe that a computer game character is suffering when it gets shot in the face?

[Anonymous No.3037559]

It's really a matter of complexity.

Organic or not, after a certain level of complexity, a creature is living.
The real problem is figuring out where the line is.

[Anonymous No.3037561]

>>3037011
>>3037035
use these two for face/head models.

I would buy it.

[Anonymous No.3037567]

>>3037554

How is it differend. Just because we are made of carbon?

What kind of insane troll logic is that? If we strip life to it's basics we see that we are all simply automatons that can replicate ourselves and consume energy to sustain ourselves. We are robots that just happen to be made of carbon.

If we were to build a robot, that could extract energy and materials from it's environment and replicate it would be "alive". .It wouldn't be carbon based life, but it would be life

[Anonymous No.3037574]

>>3037097
creepy valley hater fag

[Anonymous No.3037577]

>>3037544
the difference is, as the architects of the programs running these machines, we would know for certain just what is going on.

Making a program that very realistically simulates emotional responses is not the same as creating a new, living entity with emotions, in the same way that programming a Sim(the Sims) to react in emotional ways does not make the Sim a living entity with emotions.

From the robot(or Sim)'s point of view, there is no consciousness, no emotion, no higher thought. Just programs being executed.

if you start getting into "emergent" intelligence ground, that's a completely different area of discussion that has nothing to do with the concept of this thread.

An android does not necessarily imply any sort of actual AI.

[Anonymous No.3037582]

>>3037567
Humans and animals such as cats and dogs are infinity more complex than anything a human could create.
If you were a computer programmer you would understand this

[Anonymous No.3037593]

Androids are male
Gynoids are female

[Anonymous No.3037594]

>>3037582
>If you were a computer programmer you would understand this
lol it wasn't until I studies some neurochemisty and biology that I realized how fucking complex we fuckers are. computers did help me understand the idea of a system first though.

[Anonymous No.3037595]

>>3037593
What would you prefer? Anthroid?

Seriously, give me a gender neutral term that people would instantly recognize and know what you're talking about.

Holy fuck you must be some basement dwelling neckbeard if that's all you have to contribute.

[Anonymous No.3037601]

>>3037593
>Gynoids
oh lawdy, that term makes me laugh for some reason.
Makes me imagine a giant walking vagina

[Anonymous No.3037602]

>>3037555

No, for two reasons. They first for all arent' programmed to do that and secondly even if they were, our current videogame technology would be unable to simulate those emotions.

This however, doesn't mean that we couldn't theoretically build an AI construct that is capable of feeling pain. It is just the matter of the complexity of the system and the boundaries of it's programming. I say this, because we already have beings capable of that: We ourselves.

We humans aren't free. Our toughts and emotions are constantly influenced by the chemical states of our brain. I nfact, our emotions ARE differend chemical states of our brain. Our brains, and instincts limit the scope of our mind and experiences. We are at our core, just very complex breeding machines, that originated from the first simple carbon based, replicator automatons of earth, whose originated from the simple chemical soups of the ancient earth.

[Anonymous No.3037603]

>>3036999
This would be my android

[Anonymous No.3037606]

>>3037595
imo androids = androids
fembots = female androids
boybots = male androids

don't worry about the words. when these things go mainstream humans will make up there own terms

[Anonymous No.3037609]

I wan't my android to be super astute, there is no conundrum that his core couldn't compute.

[Anonymous No.3037610]

>>3037606
I prefer squishbots and pokebots myself.

[Anonymous No.3037613]

>>3037609
<insert paradox here>
Robot's head asplodes

[Anonymous No.3037614]

>>3037577

But what is the difference between asimulated emotional response and a "real" emotional response?

[Anonymous No.3037616]

>>3037602

>This however, doesn't mean that we couldn't theoretically build an AI construct that is capable of feeling pain. It is just the matter of the complexity of the system and the boundaries of it's programming.

I'm not saying we can't build one I'm just asking why would we build that capability into a sexbot?

It's perfectly possible to design a program that simulates emotion without actually feeling it. Why would anyone design what is essentially a computer game character to be a real sentient being when it's easier and cheaper to build one that responds like a human in certain situations?

[Anonymous No.3037623]

>>3037616
Agreed.

In fact, I would prefer my robots to NOT be equipped to deal with every situation, or even to be particularly smart about solving new problems.

[Anonymous No.3037626]

>>3037614
Correct, there wouldn't be a difference. In fact someone could program and simulate this inside a computer without an android having a body. They would be treated as slaves when in reality they will be as smart, if not smarter then us... and some of them will have the ability to love and understand philosophy

[Anonymous No.3037629]

>>3037613
Internally resolving a paradox is as simple as not thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.3037631]

>>3037623
Your a fucking idiot then. Most robots being designed with intelligence today are through study of human neurology and the attempt to make a replication of a human in digital form.

[Anonymous No.3037646]

>>3037616
can I feed it gal games and have it lrn2waifu :3?

(also the bot should be aware of it's own weight, howfully using strong lightweight plastics and carbon fiber we can get it within normal human range)

[Anonymous No.3037656]

I see no reason to have a robot other than as a worker slave or sexbot. It will undoubtedly have sub-human intelligence making it a shitty friend/significant other. Otherwise it would be able to trigger a technological singularity.

That said my robotfu would look like this.

[Anonymous No.3037661]

>>3037656
>robotfu
>robowaifu

has potential

[Anonymous No.3037662]

>>3037626
Right now, you could the equivalent development time as a few major video games and you could create a desktop program that could be a pretty spiffy virtual companion.

Think Google's phrase interpretation mixed with a little Cleverbot information gathering/response creation and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of lines of pre-written dialogue. Add to this the programming to gauge emotions by expression/speech pattern, which has existed and been applied in several areas for quite some time.


Using your desktop's camera and microphone, this program could come up with fitting responses to most anything you say to it. A good portion of it unique and spontaneous, with a good deal of simulated emotion behind it.

Would this program actually have emotions of its own? I would say not.

And something similar running in a robotic platform wouldn't either.

[Anonymous No.3037668]

>>3037495

You say that robots that actually feel pain, love and suffer that I am free to abuse at my whim are a bad thing?

WHY!
Haven't you ever wished to just hurt someone until they wept and pleaded you to stop. Haven't you ever wished that the computer/car/tv would actually feel pain and would beg you to stop when you bashed it when it stopped working.

These kind of robots would allow this!
>mfw

[Anonymous No.3037669]

>>3037646
There's no reason at all to build a humanoid robot with capabilities exceeding the human norm.

Uber-strong robots outside of specific industrial applications are a creation of cinema for dramatic effect.

[Anonymous No.3037672]

>>3037669
Not to mention potentially dangerous

[Anonymous No.3037673]

>>3037668
You are the worst kind of person.

[Anonymous No.3037678]

>>3037673

Why is it wrong thos want to RIP AND TEAR people open so that I can splash their warm blood all over me?

[Anonymous No.3037692]

[Anonymous No.3037690]

>>3037669
umm we're the same thought.. I was worring about my waifubot crushing me.. hence lightweight plastics and what not would be a way to avoid this.. a metal bot would be rather heavy imo

[Anonymous No.3037750]

bump

[Anonymous No.3037757]

I'd wish for my servant to look like this.

[Anonymous No.3037758]

Natalie Portman in The Professional, but with tits leaning more towards Katy Perry's and an ass leaning more towards Kardashian.

That is all.

[Anonymous No.3037786]

My waifubotlolis would be equipped and programmed as killers and bodyguards.
Fuck the police.

[Anonymous No.3040391]

>>3037508
>>3037523
>>3037529
Why I hope humanity goes extinct.