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3035107 No.3035107 [Reply] [Original]

So after days of constant pondering, I have come to this conclusion.

Extra terrestrial life must exist.

When the dust particles from the big bang slowly started forming into stars, and eventually primary life forms, why would it seem that it all went into earth's direction? Wouldn't these particles be all across the universe? There is no doubt about there being life in other parts of the universe. I am highly doubtful that they are the stereotypical, unkillable aliens that hollywood depicts them as. But perhaps similar to humans in ways.

>> No.3035115

>When the dust particles from the big bang slowly started forming into stars, and eventually primary life forms, why would it seem that it all went into earth's direction? Wouldn't these particles be all across the universe?

Lol life didn't just come magicully from the space dust. It took time. A LONG FUCKING TIME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_time

>> No.3035143

>>3035115
Lol i never said how long it took. I stated that it happened

>> No.3035317

See Fermat
See Drake Theory
See Evolutionairy Biology

They might look like us, considering if they intelligent, they way have things like hands to manipulate tools with, and most of their brain dedicated to problem solving.

>> No.3035333

>>3035107 dust particles from the big bang
You mean hydrogen gas clouds.

>> No.3035334

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6wXZXOUV8&feature=channel_video_title

>> No.3035342

congrats, op, for your groundbreaking discovery

>> No.3035348

>>3035107
who cares if we'll never meet them and for all intents and purposes they're useless concepts

>> No.3035362

>>3035317
>most of their brain dedicated to problem solving

Like ours is.
Oh wait.
Although, to be fair, I suppose it depends on what you mean by problem solving. I immediately thought of it in terms of knowledge, but technically, all organisms are problem solvers. They just don't solve the kinds of problems we generally consider problems.

>> No.3035374

i heard life originated from the sirius binary stars.

>> No.3035376
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>>3035348

Aliens have already visited earth, there's penis tons of evidence.

>> No.3035379

>>3035348
Because it's interesting to think about. And they are not "useless concepts". Ideas like these lead to exploration and discovery.

>> No.3035385

>>3035362

Human evolution kind of forced us to use problem-solving and, "common sense" with sentience. I.E: Run in the water because the crazy gorilla chasing you will kill you, but it can't swim" instead of using giant muscles to solve our problems.

I can assume its the same-there are patterns in intelligent lifeforms, success indicates higher incidence of homosexuality in dolphins and humans per X for reproductive pressure.

There is a legitimate theory (Forget the name) that dictates most life in the universe must have a common base structure relative to that planet, I.E: Most organisms on Earth have eyes. Depending on the age of the planet and the organisms. Can this extend to X of the Universe?

>> No.3035399

>>3035385
I would expect there to be tons of "universal" traits. Skeletons, for example. Or limbs.

>> No.3035434

>>3035379
No, they don't. Admit you just like talking about this shit on the internet. Nothing done here will ever lead to anything of importance. Don't delude yourself.

>There is no doubt about there being life in other parts of the universe.

Pretty hefty statement, OP. Statistical likelihood and "lol not all the big bang dust must have ended up here" aren't enough to prove the existence of extraterrestrial life.

>> No.3035445

Congratulations. This is so new and revealing, you've changed my life.

Seriously though, congrats I guess for coming around if you doubted it before, but you'd be very hard pressed to find anyone of reasonable intelligence these days who DOESN'T believe alien life exists.

For this to be the only place in the universe with intelligent life, some monumentally, unfathomable odds would have to be beaten.

Personally, I believe the number of alien civilizations in the universe could number in the hundreds of billions.

>> No.3035460

>>3035445
Uh, I don't believe in intelligent life. Fermi Paradox.

Fucking Occam's Razor how does it work?

Funny how you fags on this board will bash religion non-stop, yet blindly believe that other intelligent life exists without any evidence (only probabilities, just like William Lane Craig).

>> No.3035465

>>3035434
But scientists are looking. So these questions have lead to research. Whether or not they will lead to discovery is yet to be seen.

>> No.3035473

If you believe life exists elsewhere in the universe, you have to accept that your only evidence is that life exists. I doubt many people on this board believe that alien life exists, but only that it may exist.

>> No.3035482

>>3035460
Do the the grand scale of the universe even feeble chances are made possible many times over again.

>> No.3035487

>>3035460

It's true that there's no hard evidence yet, but I don't think you truly fathom just how tremendous the likelihood is that alien life exists.

You have to look at it differently than religion. When trying to prove the existence of a god, we have nothing to go on to compare it to, at all. Just words written by human beings.

But when determining whether there is life in the universe, we already have 1 example: Earth. We are one example of life in the universe, so it is proven that life does exist. Life in the universe is proven, god is not.

So, we have 1 example of life in the universe already. Do you really think that in the remaining 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the universe that there is absolutely nothing?!?

No actual proof, true, but the statistical odds of it are enough to treat it similarly to a fact.

>> No.3035490

>>3035482
>Do the the grand scale of the universe even feeble chances are made possible many times over again.

Wut.

You alien fags are just as retarded as theists.

>> No.3035504

>>3035487
It's true that there's no hard evidence yet, but I don't think you truly fathom just how tremendous the likelihood is that God exists.

You have to look at it differently than aliens. When trying to prove the existence of aliens, we have nothing to go on to compare it to, at all. Just movies and books created by human beings.

But when determining whether there is God, we already have 1 example: Earth. We are one example of God's creation, so it is proven that God can create life. Life created by God is proven, aliens are not.

So, we have 1 example of God's handiwork already. Do you really think that in the remaining 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the universe that there is absolutely no God?!?

No actual proof, true, but the statistical odds of it are enough to treat it similarly to a fact.

>> No.3035516

>>3035504

0/10

Terrible.

>> No.3035522

>>3035460
Nigga, please. I dont believe that aliens are out there absolutely, but you can't deny that life exists, life can survive on planets, and there are shit loads of planets in this galaxy alone. Is that really blind faith? Theists blindly believe because what they believe has no basis in reality. They belief in the possibility of life forming on another planet has a pretty good basis.

>> No.3035527

>>3035399

Well, on earth, we have two major solutions for that problem. Endoskeletons and exoskeletons.

Other possibilities could be rigid gas bladders, or fibrous, woody musculature, or something we can't even imagine.

>> No.3035537

>>3035490
What hes saying is this:
Lets say every star in the universe was give the ability to roll dice, and subsequently supplied with said dice. However this is no normal dice, this is a 10^1000000 sided dice numbered from 1 to 10^1000000. Each star was then asked to roll the dice and get a 6. Due to the sheer vastness of the number of stars out there, eventually one of them will roll a 6, regardless of how improbable it is.

>> No.3035560

So how about this? Alien life may exist or have existed but from what I remember ( I'm a physicist & Mathematician not an astronomer) we are hard pressed to find stellar class "O" stars as it is. We all know, or should at least that our sun wont last forever. What if the majority of planets that sustained life are gone? Its just interesting to think that while our system is so young there may have been systems that evolved completely and already discovered and harnessed the major truths of the universe that we still attempt to understand. They could be so evolved that they master interstellar communication and travel to the point where discoveries of new life sustaining planets like earth are like us discovering a new bug, how cares right? They might already know where here but have absolutely no interest in an underdeveloped system.

>> No.3035651

>>3035537

first of all, almost surely != certainty.

favorable conditions for life (similar to earth's, basically) are really sparse, so it's not like you're rolling a d6 10^10000000000000 times. it's more like rolling a d10^10000000000000 a handful of times.

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>>3035317

>Drake Theory

I've had it with these motherfuckin' 50 year old astronomy formulas on this motherfuckin' math!

In my opinion, an estimate of Extraterrestrial life is an illegitimate idea.