Reality

[Anonymous No.3012857]

How do I know any of this is real and I'm not just sitting in a padded cell somewhere?


And this shit:
http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html

This fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.3012869]

Hypothesis not falsifiable.

Not science.

[Anonymous No.3012872]

You don't. Get over it and move on.

[Anonymous No.3012877]

You don't you can only assume.

"1st principle of scientific thought: a real learnable universe exists independant of human perception"

besides, you can't even tell if your in a padded cell or a brain in a jar.

[Anonymous No.3012880]

The answer to your question would not have any distinguishable result one way or another on your life. Ergo, it doesn't matter.

[noko No.3012890]

>>3012877
Or if brains and padded cells exists and not some other mechanism of conscious thought.

[Anonymous No.3012897]

Question is: why does it matter? We can only affect this 'reality' so any others are irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.3012910]

Your argument fails since you repudiate the existence of others. If you die, we will keep living, rendering your judgement false

[noko No.3012913]

>>3012897
But I can affect my dream and imaginations.

I think you mean this is the reality with the longest run time and most vivid and such as a result it is the most important.

[Anonymous No.3012919]

>>3012910
That is of course assuming you all exist

[Anonymous No.3012929]

>>3012910
>>3012919
Solipsism isn't falsifiable. In a very related note, it's a waste of time.

[Mara, Architect of Illusion No.3012930]

What the fuck, you little shit. I go to all the trouble to make this reality and all you can do is bitch and try to get out of it. I wonder why I even bother.

[Anonymous No.3012941]

GTFO solopsist.

[Anonymous No.3012942]

>>3012929
what isn't a waste of time in the first place?
>>3012930
make one in which we are unable to feel discontent.

[Anonymous No.3012949]

DID I HEAR "SOLIPSISM"? I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEONE JUST SAID SOLIPSISM.

[Anonymous No.3012952]

>>3012942
It's a waste of time because it's not falsifiable. I.e., it makes no fucking difference.

[Anonymous No.3012961]

>>3012942
that was covered in the matrix so nyah

[Anonymous No.3012974]

No one said anything about full blow solipsism.

But how do we trust our senses when they are fallible?

How do I truly differentiate the dream from the reality.

[Anonymous No.3012978]

>>3012952
>>did not deny it was a waste of time

>>asked what is WORTH our time or purpose.

[Anonymous No.3012979]

>>3012974
>How do I truly differentiate the dream from the reality.
I've done it before, by noticing continuity breaks and logical contradictions.

But why are you even asking the question?

[Anonymous No.3012982]

>>3012978
Things that produce subjective happiness.

[Anonymous No.3012990]

>>3012974
>But how do we trust our senses when they are fallible?

How do we trust our LOGIC if it is fallible?

[Anonymous No.3013001]

>>3012979
Brb becoming a hedonist

[Anonymous No.3013002]

Cogito ergo sum.

[Anonymous No.3013006]

>>3012857
>How do I know any of this is real and I'm not just sitting in a padded cell somewhere?

>Implying super advanced civilizations still use plebeian materials like cotton and linen
>Implying they haven't worked out a super efficient pod system
>Implying they would have to store a physical body anywhere to run a supercomputer simulation
>Implicitly implying implicative implications

[Anonymous No.3013008]

>>3012990
it's illogical to be in this thread, but we think about op's idea logically. your move.

[Anonymous No.3013022]

You don't, but it's safest to assume that any actions you take will have consequences

Sincerely,
Your subconscious

[Noko No.3013021]

>>3012982
So the meaning of life is hedonism?

[Anonymous No.3013029]

>>3013021
Only if you think that superficial physical pleasure is the highest good.

I think there is much better happiness to be had, above and in addition to simple physical pleasures.

[Anonymous No.3013044]

>>3013029
>>implying hedonism only includes physical pleasure and not also emotional, metal, and spiritual.

[Anonymous No.3013045]

>>3013029

>physical pleasures

Why do you keep using that phrase? I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.3013050]

>>3013022
this

/signed
+1
/thread

[Anonymous No.3013062]

>>3013045
I mean pleasures that derive from satisfying basic impulses. Not higher-level mental ones (which I know are also chemical, yadda yadda).

Basically, my main concern here is that "what you want" is not very well-connected with "what would actually make you happy".

[Anonymous No.3013068]

>>3013022
should we care about such consequences when in just a few hundred years every evidence of your actions will be forgotten and vanish.

[Anonymous No.3013074]

>>3013062
sastisfaction of base impulses and desires does not hedonism make.

[Anonymous No.3013076]

>>3013068
This fails the categorical imperative of Kantian ethics. If everyone acted as though their actions had no consequences, you'd quickly end up with a system that definitely DOES have consequences, and bad ones.

[Anonymous No.3013077]

>>3013068
If the action only negatively affects other people, go for it if you're really willing to go that far out of your way to be an asshole

[Anonymous No.3013080]

>>3013062

>what you want
>doesn't make you happy

[Anonymous No.3013086]

>>3013080
You haven't thought this through.

Almost everyone THINKS they know what would make them happy. But if they got what they wanted, they might find that they were wrong. It's a lack of self-knowledge.

[Anonymous No.3013098]

>>3013076
And what consequences would survive the explosion of the sun in 5 billion years pray tell?

[Anonymous No.3013115]

>>3013086
What if what all I ever wanted in my life was something that would make me happy?

[Anonymous No.3013116]

>>3013098
The course of the intersteller human empire.

[Anonymous No.3013119]

>>3013115
That's a tautology, and doesn't have any content. It's equivalent to "I don't know what would make me happy, but I'd like it".

[Anonymous No.3013121]

>>3013098
>>3013068

I smell a nihilist.

[Anonymous No.3013125]

>>3013121
Smells pretty beta.

[Anonymous No.3013142]

>>3013022
>subconscience
I hate it when I hear that word. Either it is conscience or it is not.

[Anonymous No.3013146]

>>3013142
reading comp/10

[Anonymous No.3013147]

>>3013142
When people say "subconcious", they generally mean "unconscious". Don't read too far into it.

[Anonymous No.3013572]

>mfw i read the article