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Anonymous Tue May 3 03:45:22 2011 No.2987237 [Reply] [Original]

/sci/, there's a lot of hate for philosophy on this board.
And I know why. But lets not dwell on that. Let's focus on philosophers who weren't useless.

My favorite is Epicurus. Atomist, Athiest (or at least deist who thought gods didn't give a shit), contributor to scientific thought (Principle of Multiple Explanations) didn't believe in an afterlife, sat around in a garden all day.

John Stuart Mill, Popper, Hume, Leibniz, etc. Who's your favorite philosopher, /sci/?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 03:51:22 2011 No.2987263 >>2987237 Socrates. He was bad ass.

Anonymous Tue May 3 03:52:22 2011 No.2987265

Mill or Kant for moral philosophy. even though Kant's theory of a priori derivation of morality is highly flawed it still has an underlying reason to it that makes perfect sense. The main problem with his theory is no trade offs in duties and false positives, negatives of the categorical imperative yet if applied correctly it seems to yield the correct results. meaning that the ad hoc modification that need to be made to make it work underline some deeper underlying principle.

but yeah Mill also quite flawed i mean distinguishing between higher and lower pleasure is a good idea in theory but he can't really prove the justified distinction.

but yeah those 2 are probably the ones that came closest to any sort of moral truth.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 03:56:22 2011 No.2987276 >>2987265 yeah this but also spinoza.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 03:57:22 2011 No.2987279 Ayn Rand

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 03:58:22 2011 No.2987280 >>2987279 0/10

Anonymous Tue May 3 03:59:22 2011 No.2987283

>>2987265
I'm really not a fan of either Kants or Mill's moral systems. I like mill because he was doing falsification stuff. I think Hume hit way closer with his whole 'reason is slave to the passions' thing.

Was it Aristotle who thought that people did what they thought was right, 100% of the time? Like, thinking "Oh man, I should get out of bed." and then hitting snooze - you actually thought sleeping in was the right thing to do, otherwise you would have gotten up. I think that was Aristotle.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 03:59:22 2011 No.2987285 I know I'm going to get shit on for naming these people because they sort of adhere to the contingency and ambiguity of the universe as opposed to the objectivism of science, but I really enjoy Nietzsche, Heidegger and Derrida.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:00:22 2011 No.2987288 >>2987276 >Spinoza I always thought he was just trolling everybody, after reading his whole "everybody is god" thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:02:22 2011 No.2987289 File: 27 KB, 249x330, hypatia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hypatia, Pítagoras and Thales of Miletus

Anonymous Tue May 3 04:03:22 2011 No.2987297

>>2987265
Kant's idealism is deeply flawed on the fringes, but is a good every day guide.

Imagine that you have to kill one person to save all of humanity. By Kant's "No person ought be used as a means to an end" and "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law." this act of sacrificing one is deeply immoral.

Check out Rawles and Singer for a neat system of utilitarianism.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:14:22 2011 No.2987318 >>2987289 >Hypatia She was a whore. Which gives her a legitimate advantage over all philosophers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:19:22 2011 No.2987335 >>2987318 She was a virgin.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:20:22 2011 No.2987338 >>2987318 being a teacher =/= whore, dipshit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:21:22 2011 No.2987341 File: 58 KB, 625x494, 1302147691142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987318 Christianfag detected

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:22:22 2011 No.2987343 >>2987335 That's what they ALL say, even the good ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:23:22 2011 No.2987347 >>2987338 >>2987341 Not a christfag, I just have more common sense than you do.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:25:22 2011 No.2987353 File: 13 KB, 441x408, 1301865533230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987343 And how do you know she wasn't one? Did you saw the past or something like that? >mfw your logic is full of shit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:26:22 2011 No.2987354 File: 17 KB, 319x350, derek_zoolander.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sam Harris. Moral realism FTW.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:27:22 2011 No.2987359 >>2987353 All philosophers are whores. They're worse than literary critics.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:30:22 2011 No.2987370 >/sci/, there's a lot of hate for philosophy on this board. >My favorite is Epicurus >Doesn't know that Epicurus hated philosophy too. hehehe

Anonymous Tue May 3 04:33:22 2011 No.2987385

>>2987354
>Sam Harris
>Zoolander
>Moral Realism
His moral system is full of holes leaking shit and pus. He goes out of his way over and over again to object to moral relativism, when he doesn't need to. His moral landscape thing is basic utilitarianism. The manner in which he argues moral values are equitable to true-false statements is laughable.
He is enthusiastically misguided.

Anonymous Tue May 3 04:35:22 2011 No.2987394

>>2987370
>implying that's not why he's my favorite, and that my final ethics paper doesn't begin with:
>"If I have learned anything from philosophy, it is that I am not a patient or tolerant man. If the goal of philosophy is knowledge, then is failing to fulfill the promise of its name."

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:37:22 2011 No.2987401 >>2987359 why to only pointed out Hypatia? he mentioned 3 more philosopher who were also whores. 0.00001%/10

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:43:22 2011 No.2987411 >>2987401 She was awesome because she was a whore first, and a philosopher second. In other words, she was good at whoring AND philosophy.

Anonymous Tue May 3 04:47:22 2011 No.2987424

Spinoza, Wittgenstein, Frege, Russel, Diogenes, Berkeley, Sartre, Foucault, Derrida, Marx, Carnap, Feyerabend, Lakatoss, Searle, Agamben, Habermas, and Kripke.

Fuck all the greeks but diogenes...well not really but at least he got constructivism (I postulate)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:48:22 2011 No.2987428 >>2987385 And he's sooo cute <3 <3 <3

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:51:22 2011 No.2987434 >>2987424 Forgot Deleuze...rhizome theory is good stuff and he expanded greatly on foucauldian biopolitics and governmentality

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:51:22 2011 No.2987436 File: 7 KB, 240x303, Sam_harris-01a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987428 Dammit. You're right. Even if what he says is stupid, he looks amazing saying it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 04:57:22 2011 No.2987446 >>2987385 the statement 'happiness is good' is true.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:00:22 2011 No.2987456 >>2987288 It's more like everything is god rather than everyone. And by god he means something pretty far removed from the common notion of god. Not something you have to buy into, but not trolling.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:00:22 2011 No.2987457 >>2987446 it has no meaning take a class on analytical philosophy and see why. he is not a serious philospher. moral philosophy is a bag of horse shit and should be relegated to psychology or neuroscience.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:01:22 2011 No.2987459 >>2987354 If your moral system is so objective, why doesn't it apply to rocks?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:02:22 2011 No.2987462 File: 16 KB, 275x326, Pierre_Duhem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987446 Spoken like a true Heroin Addict. Sam Harris is a hack, and is milking gullible Secular Humanists for cash.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:06:22 2011 No.2987480 >>2987459 It objectively doesn't apply to rocks, obviously. All of this is covered in Sam Harris' School for People Who Can't Secular Humanist Good, and Want to Learn How to Do Other Stuff Good, Too.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:16:22 2011 No.2987501 >>2987480 Oh man! I'm signing up for the SHSPWCSHGWLHDOSGT right now. I hope they teach me the Magnum.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:20:22 2011 No.2987507 >>2987237 Epicurus is your favorite because you saw a trendy picture on /b/ and after a light wikipedia skimming, you posted this. Good job.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:20:22 2011 No.2987508 >>2987459 evolution doesnt either. is it wrong then?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:23:22 2011 No.2987515 Socrates!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:23:22 2011 No.2987516 >>2987507

Anonymous Tue May 3 05:30:22 2011 No.2987526

>>2987507
Whatever makes you feel better about your philosophical hipster cred, bro.
My intro to philosophy course was the only one that covered the greeks at all, and it did so poorly. After that, I took logic and intro to modern phil. (no greeks). Now I'm taking ethics (and agreeing with >>2987457) and epistemology (fuck yeah, Clifford). I somehow started from Aristotle and Hume, and got to Epicurus.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:38:22 2011 No.2987535 Socrates. I like my philosophers to be fictional.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:40:22 2011 No.2987537 Zen appears to be the closest thing to reality (especially if you tripped on LSD you'll know). Listen to Alan Watts.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:42:22 2011 No.2987540 Mr. Hume

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:44:22 2011 No.2987546 >>2987237 According to your description, Epicurus sounds like he was a total bro to hang out with. Personally, I like Socrates. He was kind of a troll. Sadly, I don't know as much about philosophers as I'd like. Any way to remedy that?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:47:22 2011 No.2987549 >>2987546 >He was kind of a troll. He never existed. He was an Anonymous tripfag nametag for Plato.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 05:51:22 2011 No.2987555 >>2987549 Aw, man! Really? Still, then he was a troll, in a fictional way. And somewhat awesome. Can you tell me more about that?

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:02:22 2011 No.2987575

Diogenes the Cynic/Dog (of Sinope).
He...
masturbated in public
wasn't afraid of Alexander the Great
thought burial rituals were pointless (asked to be fed to wild animals after death)
thought nationalism was retarded (first person known to claim to be a citizen of the world)
dissed Plato
etc

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:02:22 2011 No.2987576 >>2987555 Timaeus By Plato

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:02:22 2011 No.2987577
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> Let's focus on philosophers who weren't useless.

S4sh4 Gr3y. (suck my balls, wordfilters)

Giving one dude a single boner is of more significance to mankind than the entire output of all of history's philosophers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:09:22 2011 No.2987595 dr. kent hovind

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:09:22 2011 No.2987596 >>2987575 and lived in a barrel ... like a boss

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:10:22 2011 No.2987599 >>2987549 That is possible. He might have existed, he might not have. Don't claim to know for certain when the evidence is so scarce.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:11:22 2011 No.2987603 >>2987577 She's wordfiltered? Why is she wordfiltered?

>>	TheCatch Tue May 3 06:20:22 2011 No.2987620 I like the silly philosophers that should be hated by all kinds of people who typically frequent the /sci/ threads. You know, like Pythagoras, Leibniz, Descartes, Eratosthanes. All of them, fags.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:20:22 2011 No.2987621 >>2987599 Read Timaeus. It's less than 100 pages, and Plato, then his students, are the only sources of everything Socrates said. It's actually kinda obvious when you take the trolling into account.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:21:22 2011 No.2987624
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bullshit did this just happen to me.
it's 11:17am here, just finished a 5000 word essay on Grice's linguistic meaning.
I click on the pic of sasha grey with the book on the 4chan front page (recent image thing)... who doesn't know she's an existentialist right? .. right?
anyway, brings me to this shit.

there's hate for philosophy on /sci/??... i've never even been on /sci/, i'm only here coz sasha was here...
wtf is this shit.

im fried. fuck /sci/... philosophy owns your narrow minded ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:21:22 2011 No.2987626 File: 193 KB, 716x1006, PICT15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ayn Rand.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:23:22 2011 No.2987631 Favourite philosopher? It's childish. Any philosopher worth his salt had some good idea to toss in the debate. Hell, you can find good philosophy even in the Bible, even if you don't believe in the religion.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:24:22 2011 No.2987634 >>2987624 Not really. I think they mostly hate bullshit philosophers like >>2987285. Scientists in general are too quick too disregard philosophers though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:24:22 2011 No.2987635 File: 51 KB, 712x596, inb4_SCIENCE_IS_PHILOSOPHY!!!11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987624 >philosophy owns your narrow minded ass. Spoken like a true /x/fag.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:25:22 2011 No.2987638
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>>2987603
Same reason you can't use any word with the letters j-e-w in them. It's part of moot's fucktarded plan to "clean up" 4chan so it doesn't make a negative impact on his ability to market the fuck out of canv.ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:25:22 2011 No.2987639 /sci/ - science & math

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:25:22 2011 No.2987640 >>2987631 i hate people that start a sentence with hell as an exclamation. it's such a cliche

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:25:22 2011 No.2987642 >>2987635 >pic Maybe because we get sensory input?? captcha: philosophe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:26:22 2011 No.2987645 >>2987624 >philosophy owns your narrow minded ass. Philosophy majors: People too dumb for real science but who still want to reap the social rewards of appearing to have superior intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:27:22 2011 No.2987647 >>2987640 And you are so edgy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:27:22 2011 No.2987648 Philosophy is what most men do when they don't get pussy (and some don't even wish to get one...).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:28:22 2011 No.2987653 >>2987638 Jew. Sasha Grey.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:30:22 2011 No.2987657 >>2987645 I said they're worse whores than literary critics.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:30:22 2011 No.2987658 File: 76 KB, 500x473, hurr i'm a durr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987653 >LOOK HOW SMART I AM I KNOW ALL ABOUT HIDDEN CHARACTERS

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:30:22 2011 No.2987660 >>2987647 not liking clichés is edgy? what does that even mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:30:22 2011 No.2987662 File: 126 KB, 450x373, 1300369092749.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987635 >post demotivational on philosophy >pic has nothing to do with philosophy >be clueless

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:32:22 2011 No.2987671 wow can I really not post the word "jew"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:32:22 2011 No.2987673 >>2987662 I think the lesson to be learned here is that to the most people, "philosophy" and "nonsensical shit some moron posted on yahoo answers while stoned" are indistinguishable.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:32:22 2011 No.2987676 what about the words "sasha grey" ?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:33:22 2011 No.2987678 >>2987658 What the fuck's wrong with you? Neither JEW nor SASHA GREY are being filtered on this board. Go back to /b/, you fucking moron.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:33:22 2011 No.2987683

>>2987671
Did moot finally get sick of manually unbanning hundreds of people who got caught in his retarded wordfilter and take it out?

Changing my IP is too much work (i.e. I don't want to wait 30 seconds for my router to reboot) so I'm not going to test it myself...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:34:22 2011 No.2987684 >>2987662 The question deals with existential philosophy, Mr. No True Scotsman.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:35:22 2011 No.2987689

>>2987648
Kant, a virgin, CHECK

Plato, a fag, CHECK

Nietzsche, a virgin, CHECK

Bentham, virgin aspie, CHECK

Socrates, married fag, CHECK

Kierkegaard, pussy-deprived, CHECK

Rousseau, repressed pervert with lots of guilt, CHECK

Foucault, fagfag, CHECK

Wittgenstein, fag, CHECK

Diogenes, was into boys, CHECK

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:37:22 2011 No.2987694 >>2987689 how can Nietzsche have had syphilis and be a virgin u mron

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:37:22 2011 No.2987697 >>2987673 Another lesson would be that both "philosophy" and "nonsensical shit some moron posted on yahoo answers while stoned" are of equal intellectual value, since neither can be tested for veracity.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:39:22 2011 No.2987703

>>2987624 here

Just thought i'd explode with my first post.. was a bit of a wtf moment for me coming across this. i said it was 11:17am... the point of telling anon that was that I haven't been to bed all night. I've been sitting here, writing. hurrrr
Anyway... the reason why im posting again, after beating down >>2987635 is:
I had no idea "scientists" had such a problem with philosophers. I'm not too fussed so i'm not gonna talk about how wrong you are bla bla bla
but srs guys...c'mon... there "HACKtually" beef there?
is it a genuine belief that "we do filosofy coz we 2 dum 2 du all dat siens"? oh bitch pleeease.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:40:22 2011 No.2987705 Bentham

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:42:22 2011 No.2987709 >>2987697 I am literally not even going to mention the Problem of Induction to you. You simply don't deserve to know about it..... whoops.

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:45:22 2011 No.2987716
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>>2987703
>I had no idea "scientists" had such a problem with philosophers.
It's not just """""scientists""""", I think. Reasonable people in general tend to have issues with non-falsifiable propositions, especially when the typical philosopher ego kicks in, and the non-falsifiable proposition is being presented as fact.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:47:22 2011 No.2987721 >>2987709 >You simply don't deserve to know about it. Unbelievable. And you guys genuinely don't see why some people don't hold philosophers in high regard?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:48:22 2011 No.2987724 Lucretius

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:48:22 2011 No.2987727

>>2987709
>The problem of induction is the philosophical question of whether inductive reasoning leads to knowledge.

Scientist:
>hmmm, it seems that if I do X, then Y always happens afterward
>I should test this
>*tests*
>yep, it works!

Philosopher:
>hmmm, it seems that if I do X, then Y always happens
>I should spend 30 years locked in an office thinking about whether I am able to conclude something from this fact and writing hundreds of pages of unintelligible drivel regarding the matter that noone will ever read.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:49:22 2011 No.2987728 >>2987694 That was a speculation. There were no tools to diagnose syphilis properly in the 19th century. They tried to explain the dementia symptoms with a possible syphilis infection, but there are also other diagnoses.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:50:22 2011 No.2987730 >pick a group, any group >apply misconceived blanket rules >???? >PROFIT

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:50:22 2011 No.2987731 epicurism and stoicism, especially cicero and his political philosophy

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:51:22 2011 No.2987732 File: 181 KB, 941x679, windows_pc_vs_apple_mac.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Philosopher : Scientist :: Mac : PC

Anonymous Tue May 3 06:51:22 2011 No.2987733

>>2987727
">The problem of induction is the philosophical question of whether inductive reasoning leads to knowledge. "
First line of wikipedia entry:
"The problem of induction is the philosophical question of whether inductive reasoning leads to knowledge."

Can i get a lol please?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:52:22 2011 No.2987735 >>2987733 HOLY SHIT, SOMEONE USED WIKIPEDIA AS A SOURCE OF INFORMATION?? ON THE INTERNET, EVEN?!?!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 06:56:22 2011 No.2987739 File: 35 KB, 245x320, fqregwh65.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987735 umad?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:01:22 2011 No.2987751 Who taught socrates?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:04:22 2011 No.2987760 >>2987751 use wikipedia... everyone else is.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:05:22 2011 No.2987762 >>2987760 Cool. it was Sophroniscus his dad but I don't know if he was a philosopher....

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:05:22 2011 No.2987763 http://www.proginosko.com/docs/induction.html not that big of a problem

Anonymous Tue May 3 07:07:22 2011 No.2987768

>>2987760
Hey hey hey hey hey. there's nothing wrong with wikipedia. Well apart from some faults, but everything has faults.

No one needs an encyclopedia brittanica anymore, which is just as well because that was friggen huge and expensive. and outdated

Anonymous Tue May 3 07:12:22 2011 No.2987778

>>2987768
ahhhh i'm just playing. I just wanted to make that kiddie blush at his monitor. Running off to wikipedia and rushing back to chuck crap in my direction as if he understands what's going on from the very opening sentence of a wikipedia article.
shame!
lulzthough

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:14:22 2011 No.2987782 >>2987778 He did understand opening sentence which means he grasped enough to engage in debate. What he said wasn't wrong.

Anonymous Tue May 3 07:18:22 2011 No.2987790

>>2987778
Lol what's not to understand?

how2 philosophy:
1) find a 4 year old.
2) wait until he asks you a stupid question.
3) convince other idiots to join you in devoting their entire lives to addressing this 4 year old's questions through a long series of books and journal articles that make no actual progress toward anything like an answer.
4) ???
5) TENURE!

>>	tinycat !!qoWPGZQ4oQc Tue May 3 07:24:22 2011 No.2987799 Pyrrho Paul Feyerabend

Anonymous Tue May 3 07:26:22 2011 No.2987802
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>>2987782
he _may_ have grasped the opening sentence, but it is crystal clear he did _not_ grasp enough to take part in the debate.
There are three reasons for this:

1) There was no debate in the first place. It was impossible to join the debate, as it didn't exist. In fact your words are beginning to make me believe you don't have what it takes either... which tbh, isn't much.

2) "What he said" that 'wasn't wrong' is in fact not "what he said", it was what "wikipedia said".

3) What he actually said... was wrong.

Myfriend. You need to stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:35:22 2011 No.2987821 File: 50 KB, 420x420, r10466_fuck this thread outta here.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987802 Haha, enjoy your inflated self image and meaningless life, douchebag.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:37:22 2011 No.2987827 >>2987821 burn'd.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:41:22 2011 No.2987837 File: 2 KB, 213x165, huehue.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wow, a /sci/entard mentioned John Stuart Mill.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:43:22 2011 No.2987839 File: 27 KB, 775x387, inafter_SCIENCE_IS_A_PHILOSOPHY!!!!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] moer liek phailolsophy amiriet?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:43:22 2011 No.2987840 >>2987802 true true false

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:44:22 2011 No.2987844 Wikipedia to me is a catalogue of google findings, the articles are horrible written but that said there isn't anything inherently wrong with it, I always go straight to the links at the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:45:22 2011 No.2987847 File: 23 KB, 716x524, scale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987839 science is phlosphi

Anonymous Tue May 3 07:48:22 2011 No.2987855

>>2987844
>google findings
how do you know this? This is probably wrong. Most people add to wikipedia based on their own knowledge and what they've learnt in school/college/books etc

>the articles are horrible written
Not true. Some of them are badly written. The pages that aren't frequently visited that may contain esoteric language. But this is fully acknowledged by the site and articulated to its users.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:52:22 2011 No.2987863 File: 157 KB, 1007x748, 548578957858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987840 ahhh you just trollin', shu'up. nahh shu'uuuup.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:53:22 2011 No.2987865 Descartes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:55:22 2011 No.2987871 >>2987863 You are a faggot. You have no way to prove he was wrong on the 3rd count.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 07:58:22 2011 No.2987876 File: 309 KB, 529x550, htyhtyejhye.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987871 yes i do

Anonymous Tue May 3 08:01:22 2011 No.2987882

>>2987855
I get the impression they don't know what an encyclopedia is, people go to an encyclopedia because they don't know anything about that particular subject yet articles are all disorganized obfuscated clusterfucks that can only be understood by someone who already understands everything in the article.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:08:22 2011 No.2987885 Science is philosophy that works.

Anonymous Tue May 3 08:11:22 2011 No.2987888

>>2987882
yeah that the biggest problem. Most articles are encyclopedia articles (with much more detail I might add) but every so often you get an article on some a bit more obscure that's only been written by one person and it's probably a copypaste job from one of their old high school essays, or it's all written from the one source (a highly specialized report).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:13:22 2011 No.2987890 File: 38 KB, 500x389, 1300555458783.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987885 one of them, yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:15:22 2011 No.2987892 >>2987890 The only one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:22:22 2011 No.2987903 >>2987892 please see >>2987847 which one?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:25:22 2011 No.2987911 Engineering -> Chemistry -> Physics -> Mathematics -> Logic -> Philosophy -> Art -> Language

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 08:43:22 2011 No.2987950 >>2987885 In a way I guess. Doesn't necessarily mean philosophy doesn't work. Look at Leibniz, without whom Einstein never would have pwnd relativity the way he did.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 13:15:22 2011 No.2988859 >>2987950 or calculus...or monads...I can't imagine a world without the existence of the monads.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 13:18:22 2011 No.2988864 Mine is David Hume but for ethics I go for Kant let haters be hating

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 13:22:22 2011 No.2988885 >>2988864 Whatever nice little system you have constructed and choose to live by is your choice. Just don't ever make the mistake and think it is either universal or a priori.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 3 13:24:22 2011 No.2988893 Isaac Newton.

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