/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2979397]

How can you believe in evolution if it's just a theory? (a guess?)

[Anonymous No.2979404]

[Anonymous No.2979409]

You must be desperate if you had to reach that far down into the grab bag of trolls.

[Anonymous No.2979412]

>>2979409
ITT: butthurt atheist

[Anonymous No.2979421]

>>2979397
How can you believe your car is going to work tomorrow? Same principle.

[Anonymous No.2979425]

>>2979412
>ITT: trolls

[Anonymous No.2979431]

>>2979421
so that's your convincing evidence for the existence of macro evolution?

[Anonymous No.2979432]

Evolution=Fact
Theory of evolution= Theory explaining how evolution works
Same thing with gravity
Gravity= Fact
Theory of gravity=Theory explaining how gravity works

Also
You=Troll

[Anonymous No.2979442]

How can you believe in gravity if it's just a theory?

[Anonymous No.2979445]

>he didn't misspell guess
>laughingsciencenerds.jpg

[Anonymous No.2979452]

Because as of yet, it is the most proven and plausible theory which we know of. If another theory was to be formulated which would better explain the history and development of humans and organisms alike, then science would accept it as the more believable theory.

In other words, the theory of evolution has, as of yet, been the best theory which recounts how life has gotten to were we currently are.

[Anonymous No.2979457]

>>2979432
what the fuck did you just try to write? Every line contradicts the preceding one. Good job retard.

[Anonymous No.2979458]

>>2979442
the theory of gravity is the most plausible theory that has been developed as of yet. Therefore until a better theory is developed, it will remain as such.

[Anonymous No.2979459]

So is gravity you fucking retard, I bet you believe in that.

[Anonymous No.2979468]

>>2979431
Nope. I was just answering the OP's question as to how one can believe in what's essentially a (very well-supported) guestimation.
>>2979452
That's an explanation as to why one should believe in evolution.

[Anonymous No.2979469]

>>2979452
This. Evolution isn't 100% fact, but it is the most plausible considering everything we know of already.

[Anonymous No.2979470]

I can't wait for the day when people who believe like OP (not trolls, people that really believe it) are classed as slaves. They'll serve in the homes of the upper class scientific elite and be kept docile with benzodiazepines and a form of lobotomy. They'll bring us our tea when we explore the galaxy, not because the replicator doesn't work but because it's their place in life. We'll study the universe, life, and all their mysteries by day and settle into our comfortable homes at night. They'll serve us by day and settle into their slave quarters at night comforted by the fact that Snooki is still on Chattel 1, Television for slaves.

[Anonymous No.2979473]

>>2979459
you can directly observe the effects of gravity. No one has ever demonstrated macro evolution to exist.

[Anonymous No.2979476]

>>2979397
we don't.
don't believe in the theory of gravity either, that's why I can fly

[Anonymous No.2979483]

Really guys? Could it have been anymore obvious?

[Anonymous No.2979494]

>>2979483
It is probably just trolls.
Then again, 45% of the US believes that the earth was created 7000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.2979497]

>>2979473
the effects of macro evolution are evidence of animal species in the past that are different, but related to the ones we have today. We have observed fossils of species similar to, but not exactly the same as animals we have today. there is also evidence of genetic relations between dna sequences from different species. these effects would comparable to the apple falling or you being anchored to your chair in the analogy to gravity.

[Anonymous No.2979518]

>>2979470
>Implying snooki wouldn't be by that time, under the control of the upper class, and spewing propaganda to keep the slaves in check.

[Anonymous No.2979521]

>>2979497
People ignore fossils all fucking day long for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.2979522]

>>2979497
The effects ARE NOT comparable because in one case we can directly observe the relationship in controlled experiments while with macro evolution you rely entirely on loosely based correlational evidence to make causal statements. It's bad science.

[Anonymous No.2979524]

>>2979497
See also the metro mosquito: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_mosquito

[Anonymous No.2979550]

>>2979522
Looking for the e. coli long term evolution experiment, anon?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

[Anonymous No.2979562]

Because in science, a theory is not a guess. It's a geuss.

[Anonymous No.2979568]

>>2979550
not really since it doesn't demonstrate any macroevoltion

[Anonymous No.2979574]

>>2979518
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[Anonymous No.2979577]

You guys are fucking pathetic. You honestly get trolled this fucking easily?

[Anonymous No.2979578]

>>2979574

[Anonymous No.2979584]

>>2979577
Nobody is getting trolled. Its a troll-off. You might be the most trolled person here for believing that.

[Anonymous No.2979591]

>>2979574
you sound like a virgin homosex.
amirite?

[Anonymous No.2979607]

>>2979591
You sound like a mad future slave. You mad bro?

[Anonymous No.2979617]

>>2979568
where's the line between micro and macro evolution? intelligent people realize there isn't a line, there is only evolution, arrogant morons invented those terms because they think science has credibility due to using big words instead of the actual scientific method.

[Anonymous No.2979624]

>>2979607
confirmed for virgin status.

[Anonymous No.2979630]

Everyone here is asssore and buttmolested. Pathetic roll bread.

[Anonymous No.2979658]

>>2979591
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[Anonymous No.2979689]

>>2979658

[Anonymous No.2979723]

>>2979568
Well, for bacteria there really is no such thing as micro-or macroevolution because the concept of a species of bacteria is nebulous at best (and makes astrology looks respectable at worst)

Anyway, in case you need more tests, take a look here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html,
especialy point 5.7 in which a lab species that was isolated from the natural population for 20 years was shown to be incompatible with said population.

[Anonymous No.2979746]

>>2979689
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[Anonymous No.2979783]

>>2979746
Are you a fan of the Stirling's Draka books, by any chance?

[Anonymous No.2979834]

>>2979783
Strangely, yes! However, I find the idea of slavery repulsive and know it's not only wrong but economically inefficient. On the other hand, it's fun to dream that creationists, global warming deniers, T-Vidiots, and other forms of mouth-breathers will all one day be slaves.

They weren't the best of books, kind of out there as far as technology and ignoring the realistic consequences that large-scale slave ownership would have on a modern industrialized economy. Sterling did make an admirable attempt to justify his changes in the appendices though. It was a fun exploration of an "anti-America" but far from what I'd call "good fiction".

[Anonymous No.2979847]

>>2979658
Slavery is a bad idea.
It discourages technological progress.

[Anonymous No.2979865]

>(a guess?)

"a geuss" you fucking moron. This picture is supposed to be posted together with "How can you believe in evolution if it's just a theory? (a geuss?)"!

[Anonymous No.2979868]

>>2979847

Then explain the pyramids.

[Anonymous No.2979873]

>>2979868
they weren't technological process - just pointless placing of one brick on top of another.

[Anonymous No.2979881]

>>2979847
100% agreed with you. See >>2979834

But yeah, it's a great counter-troll if you're feeling vicious. It preys on the innate fear of all luddies... that they'll be left behind or disadvantaged as a result of their beliefs. Fundamentalists worldwide of every religion are feeling this. Their beliefs become more irrelevant by the day not only because of scientific advances but also due to cultural advances like secular government, church-state separation, etc. Not that it has anything to do with luddism or religion, but many have experienced what it is to know nothing about computers and get subsequently left behind as an understanding of the technology becomes more essential in everyday life.

In reality though, the entirety of the human race will be dragged kicking and screaming into the era of scientific reason... we're currently just hearing a lot of kicking and screaming.

[Anonymous No.2979883]

TIDE GOES IN
TIDE GOES OUT

YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT

[Anonymous No.2979886]

>How can you believe in evolution if it's just a theory? (a guess?)
>(a guess?)
>guess

sage for doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.2979887]

>>2979868
Also not done by slaves so there is that.

[Anonymous No.2979890]

>>2979868
The pyramids are just a hypothesis, and a bad one at that. You can't prove the pyramids.

Mummys 1
Ahthiests 0

[Anonymous No.2979895]

>>2979865
Fuck I was sure it was written "a geuss" and it brought a smile to my face but then I refreshed /sci/ and saw your post and it made me cringe to see he fucked up that one.
There's no respect for anything.

[Anonymous No.2979922]

>>2979873
Yup. Some of the pyramids (yes, even the ones at Giza) and other great monuments of Egypt (outside of Ramses II's Karnak) were really just monuments propped up by weak pharaohs to promote the image of a mighty kingdom among the people and bolster their own egos.

They're certainly engineering monuments and prove quite a bit about the ancient Egyptians' grasp of astronomy, though they weren't exactly essential to the process of understanding those concepts. Civilizations can make phenomenal engineers but very poor scientists. You can stretch a concept like the arch or a dome a pretty LONG way before you need more impressive mathematics and physics to construct something else. Similarly, for a modern-day example; the Burj Khalifa and Taipei 101 show we have an advanced understanding of physics, geology, and mathematics but the LHC and Jaguar supercomputer prove that we're good scientists and not just fantastic engineers.

[Anonymous No.2980416]

>>2979868
>>2979873
also they weren't built by slaves

[EK !EKFQOBUFnQ No.2980432]

Clearly you have no idea what theory means in the scientific community. Theory isn't just a guess. It's not a hypothesis or something you just think up in the middle of the night. It's the highest level an idea can have after going through years of peer review and being backed by mountains of evidence (and don't give me that "it's not the law of evolution" bullshit because you clearly don't know what a law is then either) There's also a theory of gravity, and germ theory, and cell theory. Are those just theories too? Evolution is a fact. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.2980469]

>>2980432
>he doesn't know about the geuss guido

[EK !EKFQOBUFnQ No.2980542]

>>2980469
>she does't know about my copypasta