The future of space development

[Anonymous No.2951306]

The other day a random thought popped into my head, it started bugging me and I couldn't get rid of it. As I thought about it I came to this realization that in humanities past science and other areas of human pioneering and exploration would always be making advances, but a few hundred years could go by before anything really big happened to jump everything forward significantly (columbus rediscovering north america, gunpowder, the printing press, etc...) But that as time went by, and the sum of human knowledge, along with its ability to be propagated, spread the number and frequency with which discoveries and advances were made increased.

[Anonymous No.2951307]

>>2951306
OP here, had to continue it on second post...

The other day a random thought popped into my head, it started bugging me and I couldn't get rid of it. As I thought about it I came to this realization that in humanities past science and other areas of human pioneering and exploration would always be making advances, but a few hundred years could go by before anything really big happened to jump everything forward significantly (columbus rediscovering north america, gunpowder, the printing press, etc...) But that as time went by, and the sum of human knowledge, along with its ability to be propagated, spread the number and frequency with which discoveries and advances were made increased. The same is true in space. In the 80's the idea that a privately owned company could produce its own space infrastructue was totally new. Now china will be launching the Tiangong 1, 2 and 3 later this year, and in 2013 and 2015 respectively. A russian company called Orbital technologies will hopefully be producing its own 'space hotel' by 2015-16. Bigelow Aerospace has put two experimental transhab space hotels into orbit and is producing a third in Law Vegas which will be the first manned version. I would like to know where /sci/ thinks space development would be 25, 50, 100, 150, 200 and 250 years from now...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951315]

The technology:
http://techland.time.com/2011/04/06/spacexs-falcon-heavy-most-powerful-private-rocket-ever/
http://www.universetoday.com/73536/nasa-considering-rail-gun-launch-system-to-the-stars/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article4799369.ece

The will:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bIQLiKi3g
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/02/lord-british-wants-to-take-you-to-space-and-hes-closer-th
an-you-think.ars/3

The time (and one of the main kicks in the ass to get it started):
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029
http://www.sens.org/sens-research/research-themes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3329065877451441972#
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101128/full/news.2010.635.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/nov/28/scientists-reverse-ageing-mice-humans

The economic benefits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
>At 1997 prices, a relatively small metallic asteroid with a diameter of 1 mile contains more than $20 trillion US dollars worth of industrial and precious metals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Earth_Objects#Near-Earth_asteroids
>As of May 2010, 7,075 near-Earth asteroids are known,[14] ranging in size up to ~32 kilometers (1036 Ganymed).[16] The number of near-Earth asteroids over one kilometer in diameter is estimated to be 500 - 1,000.
http://www.virgingalactic.com/

[Anonymous No.2951323]

So, you "discovered" that scientific discovery has been following exponential growth.

Not really news there. I have no idea where space development will be at any point. I have no qualifications to make such a judgement.

[Anonymous No.2951319]

http://www.time.com/time/covers/asia/0,16641,20110221,00.html

[Anonymous No.2951369]

>>2951323
I never said I discovered anything, all I said was that a realization hit me.

As for >>2951315 all I can say is damn.

[Anonymous No.2951399]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5sWfhkpE0

I think we should grow

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951410]

>>2951399

[Anonymous No.2951424]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Satellites_For_Sale_-_GPN-2000-001036.jpg

Reminded me of posted pic

[Anonymous No.2951429]

OP here, any more thoughts. Specifically on the spaceflight side of what the future'll look like?

Also any more pics and links?

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951437]

>>2951429
Have you looked into futuretimeline.net yet?

[Anonymous No.2951441]

>>2951399

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC2b7o8mjcM

One of the great adventures of all time.

[Anonymous No.2951450]

>>2951437
OP here, never heard of it, thanks for the link.

This is getting awesome, need more links and pics. Managed to find this one...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951454]

>>2951450

[Anonymous No.2951468]

>>2951454
Hell yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQpQVpY5dU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwEyWrEqXmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be9GLngXyw0

[Anonymous No.2951473]

>>2951468
Keep talking

[Anonymous No.2951495]

>>2951454
OP here, I see your future and raise you mine.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lrt.mw.tum.de/documents/Referenzen/RF-Politik/USA/Spa
ce_Exploration_Program_Bush_2004_Roadmap.bmp&imgrefurl=http://www.lrt.mw.tum.de/en/interessierte
/referenzen.phtml&usg=__ZCp4Ss43JKuj8WO6YIZCz3qjACA=&h=750&w=1000&sz=2198&hl=en&
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.space-screensavers.com/images/free/freeexploration/bi
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[Anonymous No.2951513]

>>2951495
There's gotta be more than that, come on people...

You must be prepared to dream.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-hESitFlI

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951525]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYt85mcI-bk&feature=channel_video_title

[Anonymous No.2951537]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioZf4TjoUI

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known...

[Anonymous No.2951556]

“The creative conquest of space will serve as a wonderful substitute for war.” - James S Mcdonell

[Anonymous No.2951569]

>>2951556
"Since, in the long run, every planetary society will be endangered by impacts from space, every surviving civilization is obliged to become spacefaring--not because of exploratory or romantic zeal, but for the most practical reason imaginable: staying alive." ~ Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan

[Anonymous No.2951574]

I try to read the 2011 - 2020 on 'futuretimeline.net' but my computer cant load it ;_;

does it take a long time or somethong?

[Anonymous No.2951586]

"If it’s a new planet, sign me up. I’m tired of driving around the block, boldly going where hundreds have gone before in orbit around earth—give me a place to go and I’ll go." — Neil deGrasse Tyson

I'll say amen to that...

[Anonymous No.2951615]

>>2951437
Check this place out, its got some good stuff...

http://www.spacequotations.com/mars.html

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951626]

It might be helpful to realize, that very probably the parents of the first native born Martians are alive today.

— Harrison 'Jack' Schmitt, Apollo 17 moonwaker.

[Anonymous No.2951643]

>>2951626
Today we haved touched Mars. There is life on Mars, and it us us—extensions of our eyes in all directions, extensions of our mind, extensions of our heart and soul have touched Mars today. That's the message to look for there: We are on Mars. We are the Martians!

— Ray Bradbury, science fiction author, speaking at The Search for Life in our Solar System, a symposium at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, 8 October 1976.

We have your satellite if you want it back send 20 billion in Martian money. No funny business or you will never see it again.

— Reportedly seen on a wall in a hall at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, after losing contact with the Mars Polar Lander, 1999.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951647]

>>2951643
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bIQLiKi3g

[Anonymous No.2951654]

Perchance, coming generations will not abide the dissolution of the globe, but, availing themselves of future inventions in aerial locomotion, and the navigation of space, the entire race may migrate from the earth, to settle some vacant and more western planet.... It took but little art, a simple application of natural laws, a canoe, a paddle, and a sail of matting, to people the isles of the Pacific, and a little more will people the shining isles of space. Do we not see in the firmament the lights carried along the shore by night, as Columbus did? Let us not despair or mutiny.

— Henry David Thoreau, Paradise (to be) Regained, 1843.

[Anonymous No.2951656]

>>2951647
Nice drawing, I personally can't even do good stick figures...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951664]

>>2951656
Why thank you. Trust me when I say you do not need anything except practice when it comes to drawing-- I only started drawing from practically 3 year old quality four years ago.

[Anonymous No.2951670]

>>2951315
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bIQLiKi3g

Zubrin has too much zeal for my tastes. A man that talks about patents being good while espousing freedom clearly has a few wires crossed.

[Anonymous No.2951672]

>>2951664
I like that one, when my current wallpaper gets old that one's going up next.

[Anonymous No.2951674]

>>2951670
Man cannot live on bread alone, and if you only ever have one good idea...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951676]

>>2951670
He's more referring to patents as being quantifiable numbers to the amount of scientific discoveries and inventions that the United States has in comparison to the rest of the world.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951684]

>>2951672

[Anonymous No.2951687]

>>2951676
Although one must be skeptical of the number of patents that come out of the US. I'm confident a significant portion of them are drug patents especially in recent years.

[Anonymous No.2951690]

>>2951674
A man wouldn't even be able to make his own bread if it was still patented.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951691]

>>2951687
True that. Though like he said, 'But REALLY, it would be nice if the other 95 percent of the world was contributing equally to that progress, what world, that would be!'

[Anonymous No.2951712]

>>2951691
They're working on it, at their own pace.

I'd say the bigger concern for the US is making sure it doesn't back slide into 3rd world territory (particularly in education, econ can go fuck itself)

[Anonymous No.2951715]

>>2951712
I honestly couldn't imagine a world in which the U.S. wasn't the premierre military power (guess it comes with being a military brat, but whatever...), to maintain such power it would need both a good education and an at least okay economy...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951718]

>>2951712
I'd recommend watching Capitalism: A Love Story.
I was particularly intrigued when in it was shown a democratically-run business where they created automation equipment for factory lines, yet made record profits.

[Anonymous No.2951724]

>>2951715
Actually it just needs to keep anyone else from one-upping it, the US military could flat line it's advancements so long as it knocked down anyone trying to get above it.

[Anonymous No.2951737]

>>2951712
First off, when has the USA ever been 3rd world status?
Second, why do retards keep complaining about the fucking education system? It's fine. All the alarmist media like faux news wants to make you think it's awful and some type of liberal brainwashing center full of stupid.

The top 10 and 100 universities are dominated by the US. What's important to think about is when the fuck the US gets to Mars. They already sent like 11 men to moon.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2951743]

>>2951737
>US education
>Fine
>then proceeds to reference the top 1% of universities which incidentally wealthy people generally go to

[Anonymous No.2951747]

>>2951718
>automaton equipment

yeah i wonder why shitty ass engineer gtfo