/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2926478]

hey /sci/.

America is fucked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rtyQf6Hwk&feature=player_embedded

[Anonymous No.2926486]

>>2926478
its cute because its news to you

[Anonymous No.2926499]

Senility is a terrible thing.

[Anonymous No.2926521]

Dude should interview crazy liberals just to be fair. But yea, crazy Republicans are a little more hilarious to watch.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926534]

Not new.

[Anonymous No.2926538]

>>2926521
I'm so crazy I believe in science look at me I'm a crazy librul with my facts and truth and human rights if you say something objectively false I'm a radical because I disagree with you aren't I offensive

[Anonymous No.2926543]

Kind of a dick move for this guy to ask loaded questions to a bunch of senile old people at a Republican convention. I'm sure if you went to a democratic event you could find a similar number of dumbasses.

While its sad to see, the sad part is that there are uneducated and easily influenced people like this in our country that are exploited for support and votes. If this guy's aim is to promote the Democratic party, he's fighting fire with fire.

IMHO, the guy with the beard didn't sound half bad. Sure, some of his statements weren't 'politically correct' and the camera guy was trying to use that to make him look bad, but he said a few intelligent things.

Again with the other guy who said government was a very bad thing. From a philosophical and logical standpoint, its not THAT dumb of a statement. There is a lot to be said against modern governments. And many highly touted philosophers have been anarchists.

FINAL OPINION: The guy who made this video is only slightly better than the people he interviewed. It's all dumb shit anyway. And I'm probably getting trolled but I'm bored and felt like replying to something.

[Anonymous No.2926551]

>>2926538
Do you believe in homeopathy, communism, and think racism is only for whites?

If not, then you're probably not a "crazy" liberal.

[Anonymous No.2926553]

stupid americans.... who knew....

[Anonymous No.2926557]

So let me get this straight.

Jesus flat out demands that his followers help the needy and the poor.

Yet medicaid, welfare, and social security are socialist constructs that should be abolished.

An obscure, ambiguous line in the bible can be interpreted as deeming homosexuality evil.

Yet gays should be denied legitimacy, government services, basic human rights, and social respect.

Stay classy religious fucktards.

[Anonymous No.2926567]

>>2926534
That graph is wrong. Try getting it from a reputable website.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/#usgs302a

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926571]

>>2926551
>liberal
>communist

[Anonymous No.2926573]

It's not like their votes count for anything.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926582]

>>2926567
If the US is spending close to a trillion dollars on education then how come I keep seeing the discretionary budget begging it a tad under 60 billion?
Where is this shadow budget I don't hear much about?

[Anonymous No.2926585]

>Implying democrats don't have as many crazy fucks in their party.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926586]

>>2926582
*pegging
>>2926573
There are at least a few million senile Republican voters with relatively similar views.

[Anonymous No.2926588]

>>2926571
Don't let me interfere with your butt-hurt but you ignore how I had the word "crazy". But hey, if you want to pretend being crazy doesn't alter liberal's beliefs at all, you're free to think that.

[Anonymous No.2926595]

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926596]

>>2926588
In Australia and I assume Europe, liberal generally doesn't mean ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT

[Anonymous No.2926598]

>>2926543
Haha what

Did we even watch the same fucking video?

The guy doesn't ask loaded ANYTHING.

I'm sorry, but you need to be a special kind of deluded to think that "Hello, who do you think will win the presidential election in 2012" is loaded.

[Anonymous No.2926604]

>>2926551
homeopaths just elected 40 people to congress

it's true bro, its the exact same number elected to congress as the tea party, so both sides are equal

[Anonymous No.2926617]

Donald Trump
Seriously wtf America

Although some of the people aren't as retarded as they would seem the interviewer has a clear bias and point of view he wants to project on them. And that guy with the beard is a ridiculous cunt.

[Anonymous No.2926614]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intel
ligent-conservatives

[Anonymous No.2926622]

>>2926588
"there are crazy liberals" changes nothing. there are orders of magnitude more crazy conservatives, and they are vastly more politically powerful. ie, the tools of billionaires.

[Anonymous No.2926626]

>>2926582
>discretionary budget
>shadow budget

There is no shadow budget, you just don't know the terminology. Discretionary spending is only one part of all government spending. Discretionary spending ignores all state and local spending and all federal spending for entitlements. Federal discretionary spending in 2010 was $1.3 trillion or 38% of total government spending.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usfederalbudget/p/Discretionary.htm

Discretionary spending is disproportionally military because Congress has the power to raise or lower military spending every year. However, education spending is handled by states, not the federal government. So very little education spending is part of federal discretionary spending.

[Anonymous No.2926629]

>>2926598

He asks "Where do you get your news" about every other question. If they are old people at a Republican convention where the fuck do you think they get their news?

Its like going into a preschool, asking them what 3 times 2 equals, and scoffing at them when they don't know the answer. Then proceeding to say "THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR YOUTH FACEPALM WHY CAN'T EVERYONE BE AS EDUCATED AS ME"

How about instead of complaining about shit you get off your ass and do something.

[Anonymous No.2926631]

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2926634]

>>2926626
Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Anonymous No.2926648]

>>2926614
>adolescent IQ
>adult political affiliation.

Liberals can't even interpret their own graphs. Protip: It doesn't measure the IQ of people simultaneously to their political affiliation. The IQ of someone when they were 12 isn't very germane to anything 20 years later.

Here's one that actually looks at this issue properly. Enjoy being uneducated, liberals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fig_57_-_men_4-yr_college_degrees.JPG

[Anonymous No.2926649]

>>2926629
Not "the neighbor," or "web sites."

[Anonymous No.2926656]

>>2926649

You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.2926660]

>>2926648

>he thinks all you need to get a 4-year degree is intelligence

[Anonymous No.2926662]

>>2926648
>The IQ of someone when they were 12 isn't very germane to anything 20 years later.

You have no idea how IQ works, do you?

[Anonymous No.2926666]

[Anonymous No.2926688]

>>2926660
Getting a 4 year degree requires time, money, and intelligence, in varying amounts. But in any case, all I implied is that republicans are more educated than democrats. Which they are.

http://dabacon.org/pontiff/?p=539

You can even look at graduate level degrees or the number of people who dropped out before graduating high school. A higher percentage of republicans (7.2%) have graduate degrees than democrats (5.5%). Democrats also have a higher percentage of high school drop outs.

No matter how you slice it, democrats are less educated.

Of course, this doesn't mean republican policies are correct (which is why we care about all this dick waving). But I get annoyed when democrats claim things about republicans which are factually false, so I wanted to point out your error.

[Anonymous No.2926687]

>Governmentless society FTW
>BTW I'm an active member of my party

Reminds me of this (skip to 5:46):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

>Czars? Why did Obama appoint a Czar?
>Who are they? Who do they answer too?
>TAKE A PICTURE OF MY SHIRT HURR
>They're actually only advisory committees, you stupid red necks
>...you know this how?

[Anonymous No.2926700]

Colour me shocked OP.

[Anonymous No.2926709]

>>2926687

"Take a picture of my shirt" made me crack up.

The rest of it is just fools. Fools arent inherently fun. Just the innocence of "take a picture of my shirt!"

That'll show 'em, a t-shirt phrase.

[Anonymous No.2926714]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Ferguson
>Marilyn Ferguson (April 5, 1938 – October 19, 2008) was an American author, editor and public speaker, best known for her 1980 book The Aquarian Conspiracy and its affiliation with the New Age Movement in popular culture.
>A founding member of the Association of Humanistic Psychology, Ferguson published and edited the well-regarded science newsletter Brain/Mind Bulletin from 1975 to 1996. She eventually earned numerous honorary degrees, served on the board of directors of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, and befriended such diverse figures of influence as inventor and theorist Buckminster Fuller, spiritual author Ram Dass, Nobel Prize-winning chemist Ilya Prigogine and billionaire Ted Turner. Ferguson's work also influenced Vice President Al Gore, who participated in her informal network while a senator and later met with her in the White House.

[Anonymous No.2926724]

>>2926688
>Getting a 4 year degree requires money from daddy, which is proof daddy is a good person and better than you, which is why I'm buying a degree of dubious utility, to prove I deserve daddy's money and am a better person than you.
I agree.

[Anonymous No.2926725]

>>2926687
>>2926709
I like how they cut away before anyone had time to read his shirt.

[Anonymous No.2926727]

I like when the lady says "moslem is not a religion"
of course nothing really new or surprising here, just old senile republicans

[Anonymous No.2926728]

>>2926688
Well that's funny, because highly educated people seem to be more liberal than the current batch of republicans in america.

[Anonymous No.2926731]

>>2926725

"Take a picture of my shirt"

"No"

I actually paused it so I could read that dear man's shirt.

It just said something about citizens needing to take up civic duty or something.

[Anonymous No.2926732]

>>2926724
>money from daddy

Maybe in your shitty country. By the end of my six year degree I'll only have accumulated about $30,000 in fees (Government pays for the rest) and those fees are with the Government, not the University (they actually pay for all of it but require some of it be paid back). And even then, I only have to pay back those fees in a small amount of extra tax (1-10%) and even then, that's only if I'm earning over $40,000 a year.

Money doesn't come into it for every country.

>Also if you're like me and got scholarships, you'll probably have more than your fees put away by the end of your degree. I'm about $4k in debt now and already have $11k put away.

[Anonymous No.2926734]

>Unabashedly positive in its outlook, the book was praised by such diverse figures as philosophical writer Arthur Koestler, who called it "stunning and provocative," commentator Max Lerner, who found it "drenched in sunlight," and United Nations Assistant Secretary-General Robert Muller, who described it as "remarkable" and "epoch-making." Psychologist Carl Rogers credited her with having "etched, in unforgettable vividness, the intricate web of changes shaping the inevitable revolution in our culture," and said the book "gives the pioneering spirit the courage to go forward."
>Philosopher and religious scholar Jacob Needleman predicted that the book would help to make "New Age" thinking "more understandable and less threatening" to the general public in America. This was borne out by its success, as The Aquarian Conspiracy steadily climbed to the best-seller list and its viewpoint began seeping into the popular culture. Before long the book was being credited as "the handbook of the New Age" (USA Today) and a guidepost to a philosophy "working its way increasingly into the nation's cultural, religious, social, economic and political life" (New York Times).
>The book was eventually translated into some 16 foreign languages, and Ferguson became a sought-after speaker across North America and around the world, eventually traveling as far as Brazil, Sweden and India to convey her hopeful message. In 1985 she was featured as a keynote speaker at the United Nations-sponsored "Spirit of Peace" conference, where she appeared along with Mother Teresa and the Dalai Lama of Tibet.

[Anonymous No.2926735]

>>2926688
The problem with arguing over which voter base is more educated is that you can look at it several different ways. States that have a high percentage of their population with college education are overwhelmingly blue states. Individuals who go on to get a graduate degree also tend to vote democrat. However the majority of business degree holders and a large number of economics majors tend to lean republican. Then there is the fact that most wealthy people (top 5%) are college educated (even if they inherited their wealth) and wealthy people will vote republican. Look at the tea party demographics it is a party backed financially by wealthy educated people while many of its self-identified members are a mixed bag of education.

[Anonymous No.2926745]

>>2926687

I didnt realize what the term "czar" meant in american politics. So I looked it up, and it has examples of "czars" going back to Woodrow Wilson. So fuck that sneaky liberal idiot guy for saying Reagan made the first czars.

[Anonymous No.2926746]

>>2926728
Well, is it "seems to be" from watching anecdotes on youtube or TV or from reading statistics about the degree attainment of people of different political affiliations? Because while some guy's youtube may say republicans are less educated, statistics show they are far more educated than democrats.

I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is more trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.2926748]

>>2926714
>>2926734

sure is buttravaged conservatard in here

[Anonymous No.2926766]

>>2926746
Care to post the statistics please? I'm not that guy btw.

[Anonymous No.2926776]

Remember /sci/, that these people came out of the very same laws which created the universe. We have to learn to accept them as part of this world. Their existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, is in their way exactly what the universe intended.

[Anonymous No.2926781]

>>2926735
No offense, but those aren't really "problems". We don't have to worry whether *states* which have more republicans have more uneducated people (which may or may not be those republicans) because we have actual individual level statistics on political party and educational attainment.

>Individuals who go on to get a graduate degree also tend to vote democrat.
This is false. Everyone is more likely to be a democrat since there are more democrats than republicans, but getting a graduate degree increases your odds of being a republican. See:

>>2926688

[Anonymous No.2926784]

>>2926776
But us hating them isn't the way the Universe intended?

This reminds me of Batman Begins, where Batman refused to kill a criminal and instead killed the guy that wanted to kill the criminal (and probably killed the criminal in the process).

>I won't kill someone who's done something wrong
>Then I will
>I'll kill you first!

[Anonymous No.2926785]

>>2926766
They're posted in
>>2926648
and
>>2926688

http://dabacon.org/pontiff/?p=539
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fig_57_-_men_4-yr_college_degrees.JPG

[Anonymous No.2926799]

>>2926478

>mfw I realize how low voter turn out it
>mfw I realize these people exist
>mfw Democracy

[Anonymous No.2926803]

>>2926776

>white guy
>buddhist

>I cant get over this

There is something fundamentally wrong with white people being buddhists. I have visited zen temples, meditated, and read books about zen buddhism, but I believe there is something fundamentally wrong about white people being buddhists.

What the hell man.

What the hell.

[Anonymous No.2926810]

>>2926478

I won't bother mentioning the book but you people don't appreciate your workforce enough. Nobody on /sci/ is on the lowest end of the workforce but somebody must do the job.

[Anonymous No.2926806]

>>2926776
Their existence isn't grotesque nor incomprehensible.

They're just...ignorant. They just don't know anything. They just need to be educated properly.

They've basically been taught complete bullshit by propaganda machines like FOX News and Glenn Beck. They're the grotesque, incomprehensible existences.

[Anonymous No.2926817]

>>2926803
That means Buddhism is bullshit as a philosophy, then.

[Anonymous No.2926820]

>>2926817

Yep

[Anonymous No.2926841]

I accidentally moved to a place like this for work.

[Anonymous No.2926854]

>>2926543
They cut out a lot in the video, for instance when he's talking to the bearded guy and get's the response of interacial marriage, it cuts, then he says "Gotcha" really quietly as if there was an explanation there.

[Anonymous No.2926857]

>>2926817

Fucking duh!

[Anonymous No.2926874]

>>2926857
>>2926820
>>2926817


I dont know why so many people have bought into this concept that Buddhist is a philosophy.

It operates off:
1. Faith
2. Ritual
3. Blind adherence

Im not criticizing it. I think its great. Im just saying its not a philosophy.

The reason I was saying white people shouldnt be buddhist is that buddhism is like a cultural artifact. Learning from buddhism and appreciating a buddhist idea, and acutally being a full blown buddhist are two separate things.

[Anonymous No.2926966]

THIS SHIT IS REAL.
I would like to say that this problem would be resolved when the demographic portrayed in this video dies out, but there is an entire new regime of misinformed stewing in the juices of "conservativism" as we speak.
How fix, /sci/?

[Anonymous No.2927044]

>>2926803
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Buddhism#Hellenistic_world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Buddhism#Greco-Buddhist_interaction_.282nd_century_BCE.E2.80
.931st_century_CE.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_transmission_of_Buddhism

[Anonymous No.2927317]

>>2927044

Fuckin hippie.

[Anonymous No.2927352]

>>2927044

So what?

So you think that white guy in that picture is the consequence of some thousands of years old cultural communication?

No hes probably just some white guy who learned about buddhism.

What point was that supposed to make?

[Anonymous No.2927393]

>>2926966

Encourage everyone you know to kill themselves.

All problems solved and prevented. Smoke more crack

[Anonymous No.2927496]

Can't wait for nwo and depopulation

[Anonymous No.2927507]

>>2927496
Why do you wait for NWO? Just move to a 3rd world country and start a militia with your money obtained thus far and start the genocide.

[Anonymous No.2929430]

>>2926874
die

[Anonymous No.2929470]

>cameraman asks questions
>cuts away before they even get a chance to fully respond
If they can logically support why they believe Trump should be president then alright but what's crazy about that? This "dont like what i dont like" view is childish...