/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2914834]

ITT: Simple scientific facts that you still can't wrap your head around.

>matter is mostly empty space
>when I see something I'm not actually seeing it, I'm seeing the photons bouncing off it

[AcidFrippFag (Cоoltop-Loving Tourist) !!aA0GbTMNLDz No.2914835]

>>2914834
Everything is.

[Anonymous No.2914844]

>more bacteria living in and on my body than the number of cells in my body, and there are more bacteria in a single shit than the number of people who have ever lived and died on Earth

[Anonymous No.2914845]

Nothing ever really touches anything else.

[Anonymous No.2914848]

Everything that you see around you is not necessarily representative of what those things are doing or of what their positions are at the exact moment of your perceiving them as a result of the light bouncing off of the objects. Everything that you see is very slightly happening ex post facto, although it's completely unnoticeable to us and generally is not of great importance on a personal scale.

[Anonymous No.2914851]

When you type "google" into Google you'll create an infinite loop and this will break the internet.

Don't try this!

[Anonymous No.2914852]

Matter can turn into energy and vice versa.

[AcidFrippFag (Cоoltop-Loving Tourist) !!aA0GbTMNLDz No.2914856]

>>2914845
This is why you can never be gay; the balls are never really touching.

[Anonymous No.2914859]

-The idea of the universe being infinite
-Why there is something instead of nothing. It's very hard to picture there just being nothing. No Earth, no Sun, no Galaxy, no Universe, no further dimensions. Just nothing.
-What came before big bang
-Other dimensions

it's fucking weird that we are even here typing this. Why does anything exist in the first place....life is fucking amazing. I can't even get depressed because there is so much to think about and I feel like depression is such a meager and irrelevant emotion in the scheme of the infinite universe and whatever created that etc....i want to know everything

[Anonymous No.2914865]

>>2914845
>stop moving your hand close enough to your face that the electromagnetic force pushes against it!
>MOM!!! D:

[Anonymous No.2914870]

>>2914844
>>more bacteria living in and on my body than the number of cells in my body, and there are more bacteria in a single shit than the number of people who have ever lived and died on Earth
>>several hundred billion bacteria in a single shit

citation plx?

[Anonymous No.2914872]

You can literally turn lead into gold with enough energy.

[Anonymous No.2914874]

That there are as many even numbers as odd and even numbers put together

[Anonymous No.2914877]

>>2914859
The universe is without boundary, but finite.

[Anonymous No.2914883]

1 is as close to infinity as a googleplex

[Anonymous No.2914888]

>>2914883
>googleplex
Googol plex*

[Anonymous No.2914890]

>>2914859
>Why there is something instead of nothing

Asking a question of "why" in this context does not make for a meaningful question, and as such, there is no meaningful answer. By "nothing," do you mean a perfect vacuum perhaps? That's essentially what our universe is expanding into, completely empty space.

[Anonymous No.2914892]

Women who swallow are cannibals.

[Anonymous No.2914900]

>>2914892
No, they are vampires.

[Anonymous No.2914907]

I can't grasp the concept of how quarks can be fundamental particles when the different types of quarks have different charges. Surely they must be made of something even more fundamental that gives them that charge. Then what are those things made of? i really do think there must be an infinite loop of things being made of smaller things that never ends.

[Anonymous No.2914904]

>>2914900
>>2914892

Doubles wins.

[Anonymous No.2914921]

Just going to leave this here, should be fairly relevant.

http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/

[Anonymous No.2914930]

>>2914874
huh? how?

[Anonymous No.2914936]

>>2914930
Because the concept of numbers is infinite, there must be an infinite number more of even than odd. same goes visa versa

[Anonymous No.2914954]

>>2914907
There are no fundamental particles, only bits of information. Correlations without correlata.

[Anonymous No.2914957]

>>2914907
Quarks aren't necessarily fundamental particles. It's been proposed that they are made of even smaller particles, called Preons. No proof, though.

[Anonymous No.2914959]

>>2914874
>as many
>infinite

This is why you can't treat "infinity" like a number.

[Anonymous No.2914969]

I'm ok with a spatially infinite universe, but I just can't see how a temporally infinite universe universe could exist.

[Anonymous No.2914976]

That empty space is teaming with virtual particles jumping into existence and dissappearing again in an instant.

At first it seems like "Oh its just a way of thinking about things which cleverly explains what we see around us and phenomona and makes the formulas work".

But no, they are actually there its actually happening. There was something or other (afraid I can't explain it because I don't remember it) but basically a direct consequence of virutal particles, we can experimentally do. And get physical things out of a vacuum, they are literally there. Its so weird to think that.

Also the mindfuck of mass and energy being the same thing.

Physics is soo amazing, I can and will spend my whole life asking these things. Mass and Energy are just 2 different ways of thinking about the universe. They are our own models. They aren't what actually happens. They aren't distinct things. They are both aspects of the same thing so complex we can't possible comprehend it.

I once heard the reason photons have no mass is because they are always moving, so they don't Need mass, all their energy is in the form of Kinetic energy they are never still.

[Anonymous No.2914986]

>>2914976
You're thinking of the Casimir effect

[Anonymous No.2914987]

>gravity exists

This idiotic theory from the 1600's is pulling the human race back at least 250 years.

Explain to me how gravity does not conflict with basically every law in quantum mechanics/common sense.

[Anonymous No.2915001]

>>2914987
...wat?

[Anonymous No.2915003]

>>2914986

Yes thats the one, thankyou anon.

[Anonymous No.2915008]

>>2914987
wat? Our current theory of gravity is much more recent than that. Incompatibility with quantum theories works both ways. Compatibility with "common sense" is not a valid way of measuring the strength of a theory.

[Anonymous No.2915020]

>>2914845
I know, right?

It was just yesterday I was actually resting my finger on my desk and thinking to myself, "so I can feel the desk surface, because the molecular orbitals at the surface of my skin are overlapping with the molecular orbitals of the cellulose in the wood, and there's a repulsive force due to the Pauli exclusion principle meaning that multiple electrons with the same quantum numbers can't occupy the same orbitals..."

Then I was all like whoa. That's pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.2915025]

>>2914987
>common sense

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.2915032]

this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk

;_;

[Anonymous No.2915035]

>>2915020
Er...Coloumb repulsion would be the most likely culprit. Degeneracy pressure would require a shitton more energy.

[Anonymous No.2915054]

>>2915035
FUCK YOU I CAN DREAM

Actually yeah, I just have quantum mechanics on the brain, it seems. Sucks to be me.

[Anonymous No.2915080]

The fact that a Flood 4000 years ago created all the canyons and mountains on Earth. I can't even imagine how awesome it must have been.

[Anonymous No.2915103]

>>2915080

[Anonymous No.2915105]

>When I make physical contact with something, I am not being resisted by the matter itself- I am being repelled by the electromagnetic field surrounding the atoms pushing against the fields of my atoms

[Anonymous No.2915121]

>>2915020
That's supposed to be simple? Fuck me

[Anonymous No.2915123]

that field is part and parcel to the electrons, which are matter. fucking physifags still can't handle vanderwaals.

[Anonymous No.2915135]

>>2915105
but then how do we feel those objects?

[Anonymous No.2915137]

>>2915123
Electrons excitations of an electron field. Fucking chemifags still can't handle QFT.

[Anonymous No.2915139]

>>2915080

[Anonymous No.2915142]

>A cool wind doesn't blow cool air onto my skin, but rather removes the heat from my skin.

[Anonymous No.2915153]

there could be galaxys out there that we will never see because the space between is expanding faster than light.

>space expanding faster than light
wtf?

[Anonymous No.2915165]

>>2915153
Two objects are moving directly away from each other at a speed that it greater than .5c, and as a result, the distance or space between the two is expanding faster than light. It's really just a matter of perception.

[Anonymous No.2915170]

>>2915165
>*that is

Should learn to proofread...

[Anonymous No.2915182]

>everything you feel,know,hear,smell,see and are is just electrons and photos interacting

[Anonymous No.2915187]

There are more irrational numbers between 1 and 2 than there are real rational numbers, and the same amount as all irrational numbers.

[Anonymous No.2915190]

>>2915153
special relativity says its ok

[Anonymous No.2915192]

We will never know what is really big or what is really small because we only compare size to what we can observe we could b a tiny universe cell of the nut sack on some bigger thing

[Anonymous No.2915194]

>>2915165
Er...but galaxies do not necessarily have a real velocity resulting from the expansion of the universe. The apparent velocity arises because of the actual appearance of new space between the two objects, which is why the redshift [and so the velocity] is distance dependent. And besides, since we are in one of those two bodies, we would not measure a real velocity equal to or greater than c due to relativistic addition of velocity.

[Anonymous No.2915203]

>>2914834
You can never solve the three body problem for long enough time.

[Anonymous No.2915204]

>>2914859

Bro... and I do mean bro... I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY.

I use to be depress but its all gone as soon as I let go of religion and realized this. I mean holy shit, Im a million times happier because of the chances of us being born and how fucking lucky we are to experience conscience.

Being depress just seems silly after that... I also share your desire for knowledge. I want to read and know everything anyone has ever thought of ever. Well thats a bit excessive but yea man, you arent alone.

[Anonymous No.2915241]

>everything I see is mostly empty space
>the DNA in my body could fit on 1 teaspoon
>if a single set of my DNA was unraveled it would measure about 3m long, but written on paper would fill over 100 books
>bacteria in my gut outnumber the my body's cells 10:1
>you just lost the game
>matter=energy
>space=time
>we still know relativley nothing about the cosmos or ourselves

[Anonymous No.2915258]

>we only use 10 percent of our brain
>blood is not really red

[Anonymous No.2915270]

fucking magnets

[North! !/RC/Wj9Ve. No.2915271]

>>2915204
>>2914859
With any luck we'll be alive to benefit from the Singularity and transcend our natural lifespans, becoming effectively immortal.
I feel the same as you two, I want to keep going for centuries exploring and learning.

[Anonymous No.2915275]

>>2915271
Yeah, 'cause that stuff will probably be open source.

[North! !/RC/Wj9Ve. No.2915288]

>>2915275

[Anonymous No.2915318]

>>2915275
>implying that we will still have a monetary based economy at the time of the singularity

[Anonymous No.2915321]

Shit like elementary particles, virtual particles, quantum foam etc...

They don't HAVE any shapes so what the fuck are they?

[Anonymous No.2915323]

>>2915318
>I believe in a magical communist dream future of shiny rainbows.

I'm sad that my idealism is so faded compared to yours.

[Anonymous No.2915337]

>>2915323
>implying that I am a communist

not even close

[Anonymous No.2915338]

>>2915323
what's sad is your inability to face reality

[Anonymous No.2915356]

Fucking gyroscopes, man.
I mean, I know the theory, but they still freak the shit out of me.

[Anonymous No.2915364]

>>2915321

The mindfuck is, they aren't anything. Nothing we can imagine anyway and nothing we will ever comprehend. You will never know what a quark looks like.

We like to imagine it as some abstract thing we've invented called a 'particle'. A little concentration of 'mass'.

All this is just to help us visualize whats happening and predict interactions. We're used to discrete objects in our macroscopic world and we look for these in everything else.

The model of a solid particle whizzing round hitting stuff reacting with stuff works alright, but then for quarks it doesn't work, we have to invent extra stuff like exchanging virtual photons. etc.

Just think, if we never invented the abstract concept of a particle, we might not even have something called a 'virtual photon'. We might have invented an entirely different way of thinking about these things and describing the exact same phenomona.

No0one will ever know what these things truly are, we can only try and model them with what we kow (particles and waves are good examples of models we use alot).

That is the mindfuck of Physics.

[Anonymous No.2915368]

0.99999999999999999999999999999 infinity is equal to 1.

I have no problem understanding why, but it still seems so wrong somehow

[Anonymous No.2915386]

>>2915364
They exist as fields in much the same way as electric and magnetic fields.

[Anonymous No.2915387]

1+2+3+.... = -1/12

or is it -1/2?

one or the other.

[Anonymous No.2915391]

The scale of our galaxy

[Anonymous No.2915397]

>>2915356
Just watched a youtube video on that shit, fucking witchcraft man.

[Anonymous No.2915402]

>>2915368

LIMITS MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?

[Anonymous No.2915409]

>>2915364
This blows my mind as well. Particles are best described as "irreducible representations of the Poincare group (or whatever spacetime symmetry group we want, like susy or whatever)", which is really abstract. Then there's the whole deal with different charges, gauge symmetry and the seemingly random masses.

[Anonymous No.2915418]

>>2915258
is this a troll post?

[Anonymous No.2915419]

>>2915387
bah, simple analytic continuation, man. And it is -1/12.

[Anonymous No.2915430]

The Laws of Motion and Gravitation as they apply to something accelerating at X away from the Earth's surface. If X is constant, why does gravity pull it back down?

[Anonymous No.2915441]

That everything is mostly space.

That humans are 70% water.

That everyday I eat electrons and protons.

That the images in a mirror are my eyes failing to realise light can reflect.

That objects don't 'have' colour, they have the ability to reflect and absorb certain wavelengths.

[Anonymous No.2915492]

you faggots need to try harder

- One teaspoon (5 millilitres) of neutron star material would have a mass over 5×10^12 kg or 5,500,000,000 tons. About 900 pyramids of Giza.

- The surface irregularity of a neutron star is ~5 mm.

- A chunk of antimatter the size of a car would crack the Earth in half.

- Infinity

[Anonymous No.2915494]

You will exists until the end of the universe but you will not live to see it.

[Anonymous No.2915495]

>>2915419

Fuck that why?

[Anonymous No.2915505]

>>2915492
and none of these facts will ever be empirically confirmed.

>whoa

[Anonymous No.2915531]

>>2914834
Wave particle duality.

[Anonymous No.2915532]

>>2914900
Hooray, I've always wanted to be a vampire!

[Anonymous No.2915560]

>Space and TIme are the same thing
>Matter is literally bending space and time just by existing
>Gravity slows down the flow of time

This never ceases to blow my mind.

[Anonymous No.2915601]

If you shrank the earth down to the size of a pool ball, it would be smoother than any currently in production. (yes, i know it wouldn't be a perfect sphere like it should be since the earth is an oblate spheroid, but the smoothness would be there man)

[OP !XGX5X6ZGwQ No.2915621]

>>2915601
If you shrank the earth down to the size of marble, it's escape velocity would exceed 3*10^8 ms^-1

[Anonymous No.2915634]

>>2914834
When you see something, you're actually seeing it. You can't see photons, they're invisible. Seeing the thing means responding to the photons that bounce off the thing. That doesn't mean you see photons. The fuck, you thought the THING entered your EYES?

[Anonymous No.2915636]

>>2915601
?
Mountains, rivers, valleys, etc.
Don't think so.

[Anonymous No.2915649]

>>2915636

I'm telling you man, it would.

http://www.citehr.com/288766-mother-earth-smoother-than-billiard-ball-read-interesting-fact-avss-des
k.html

check it

[Anonymous No.2915664]

quasicrystals
>>2915608
-- The Following is in the words of Ed Fouche from his slide presentation --
To this day I'd be hard pressed to explain to you unique electrical, optical, and physical properties of Quasi Crystals and why so much of the research is classified. Even the unclassified research is funded by agencies like the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense.
Why is the US Department of Energy and Ames Laboratory so vigorously pursuing research with Quasi crystals?
What is the DOE New Initiative in Surface and Interface Properties of Quasi crystals?
A Quote from The DOE:
"Our goal is to understand, and facilitate exploitation of, the special properties of Quasi crystals. These properties include (but are not limited to) low thermal and electrical conductivity, high hardness, low friction, and good oxidation resistance."
That's the unclassified part. What are Quasi crystals?
In 1984 a paper was published which marked the discovery of quasi crystals--Two distinctly different metallic crystals joined symmetrically together.
By 1986 several Top Secret advanced studies were going on funded by DARPA with leading scientists already working in the field.
In classical crystallography a crystal is defined as a three dimensional periodic arrangement of atoms with translational periodicity along its three principal axes.
Since Quasi crystals lose periodicity in at least one dimension, it is not possible to describe them in 3D-space as easily as normal crystal structures. Thus it becomes more difficult to find mathematical formalisms for the interpretation and analysis of diffraction data.

[Anonymous No.2915706]

>>2915649
Ok I'll admit the math allows the Earth to fall into the realm of a tolerable cue ball smoothness. I guess my confusion came knowing the Earth is a bit oblong, so it would look more like a bit flatter and smoother, like a skipping rock.

[Anonymous No.2915713]

>>2915706

which i covered in my original post.

[Anonymous No.2915768]

>>2914834
matter isn't empty space
the universe is mostly empty space, the earth is mostly empty space
matter, by definition is NOT empty space

also, from a purely intuitive level, neglecting the math, the fact I can't get my head around is that spinning an electron around by 2pi turns it's wave packet negative

[Anonymous No.2915774]

God created the world in only six days. Fucking mind-blowing, but then again, He IS God.

[Anonymous No.2915782]

What I can't wrap my head around are similar patterns that naturally appear across the universe.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.2915796]

>>2914845
bullshit

[Anonymous No.2915804]

>>2914845
Rather, everything is always touching everything else.

[Anonymous No.2915807]

Simple unicellular life arising from a soup of chemicals.

Our original ancestor was a microscopic sac of juice.

[Anonymous No.2915810]

The infinity, nothingness, and the whole fucking universe. It used to fuck up my brain when I was a kid, and it still does.

[Anonymous No.2915815]

>>2915782
It's called coincidence.

[Anonymous No.2915819]

>>2915258
So if I take away 90% of your brain you'll live?
>Trollface.jpg

[Anonymous No.2915820]

We are self-aware beings.

the human brain is more complex than the universe.

[Anonymous No.2915827]

>>2915364
It is impossible to truly understand God's creation.

[Anonymous No.2915830]

>>2915397
link to video?

[Anonymous No.2915831]

>Body has more bacteria than human cells
>Body is over 70% water
>Body is over 90% empty space
By my calculations, the human body is about negative 110% human.

[Anonymous No.2915848]

>>2915664
i don't even understand this shit

what the fuck am i reading

[Anonymous No.2915859]

Particles have arranged themselves in a manner in which they are aware of themselves, and those particles are us.

[Anonymous No.2915884]

Light waves and gravity waves travel at the same speed.

[Anonymous No.2915910]

>>2915848
Shssshh. Next Level Shit. Srsly i dont get it either.
Left Hand Rule Meta Materials and Quasi Crystals are crazy. Research quasi crystals they about 30 yrs old. But research is not for the everyday lab worker to know about because it will revolutionize everything. Check out my thread
>>2915608
and here for more info
tinyurl 3pufzcb

[Anonymous No.2915919]

>>2915859
>>2915859
>>2915859

[Anonymous No.2915927]

>>2915884
and torsional field waves are a billion times faster

[Anonymous No.2915932]

>>2915859

[Anonymous No.2915966]

>>2915782
i read a paper from some journal article that compared the shapes of expanding cities to the growth of cancer... same types of shapes there too, and they look pretty much like the pic u attached.

p.s. the paper was just a joke and wasn't actually implying anything

[Anonymous No.2915969]

>>2915859
ok mind = blown to shit.

[Anonymous No.2915996]

>>2915859
The awareness comes from communication? FTL communication? Torsional field wave speed?

[Anonymous No.2916002]

We've existed since the beginning of existence. What we are composed of never dies but is only transfered into something else. We're essentially composed of inbred particles of creation.

[Anonymous No.2916018]

>Take an infant under 6 months of age
>Cut off up to an entire digit on a finger
>It will grow back

[Anonymous No.2916037]

>>2915859
>>2915859
what the fuck bro

[Anonymous No.2916040]

>>2916018
wat

[Anonymous No.2916053]

>>2916018
>trying to fool people to cut off the digits of babies

[Anonymous No.2916065]

>>2916053

>implying he isn't trying to get some of you beta virgins a couple 'digits'

[Anonymous No.2916069]

>>2914834
Poe's law:
Great satire is indistinguishable from reality.

[Anonymous No.2916073]

The limit of a function. You can use it to find values that don't even exist. You can even use it to divide by zero in some cases, fuck.

[Anonymous No.2916074]

>>2915910
>tinyurl

no

[Anonymous No.2916092]

>>2916074
Grow a pair
http://www.jcrystal.com/steffenweber/qc.html#Other Sites Related to Quasicrystals
Other related Sites
Quasicrystals
Quasicrystals (another)
Aperiodic '94 Index
IUCr Commission on Aperiodic Crystals
QuasiTiler 3.0
Optical Diffraction
ICQ6 (Tokyo 1997)
Akiji Yamamoto's homepage
Iowa State University and Ames Laboratory
Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
Quasicrystals Bibliography
Tiling Dynamical Systems
Dynamical x-ray diffraction from quasicrystals
A.P.Tsai's research group
Aperiodic'97 abtracts
Metallurgy of Quasicrystals
Structures atomiques complexes - Quasicristaux (French)
Zeitschrift fuer Kristallographie (Journal)
Quasicrystal database

[Anonymous No.2916103]

>>2915910
>. But research is not for the everyday lab worker to know about because it will revolutionize everything.

What are the potential of them?

How would one do their own research on them?

[Anonymous No.2916104]

>>2915664
- SIMPLE scientific facts

[Anonymous No.2916161]

>>2915560
I try to think of space and time ceasing to exist within matter. Therefore it stretches space and time like a hole in a fruit roll-up. The bigger the hole, the bigger the ripples around the whole. The hard part is picturing it in the third dimension

[Anonymous No.2916173]

The fact that there are probably higher dimensions than the tenth, the tenth is only the current extent of human imagination.

[Anonymous No.2916180]

>>2916104
States of Matter Are Pretty SIMPLE.
Maybe the least SIMPLE of all the states but...

>>2916103

>What are the potential of them?
Innumerable. Like a battery that almost never needs charging. Like a photonic computer. Srsly there are so many just fucking google it. check out the link
>How would one do their own research on them?
You wouldnt without a millions dollar lab. Institutions with such labs are

[SAGEGOESINALLFIELDS No.2916189]

Can warp myself around it, but these are cool..
~1*10^13 cells for a human being
Every cell having specific functions
Specifity acquired by DNA speciality
2m DNA condensed in less than 10µm of space
ETC ETC ETC ABOUT LIFE, AWESOME SHIT BRA

[Anonymous No.2916200]

>>2915165
You've never taken a QM course.

>>2914959
You don't even know basic number/set theory.

Fuck this, I'm leaving /sci/ for the night.

[Anonymous No.2916202]

>>2915859
tried this on /b/ some time ago

different results

[Anonymous No.2916234]

>>2914859
The meagerness of life depressed the hell out of me at first. Almost killed myself. But after a revelation, I obtained a newfound optimism.

And I also used to fear death (wanted to kill myself to get it over with and find out what it is like) But that seems so damn silly when looking at the multiverse and time as a singularity. I am much more patient now. The only thing that still depresses me is that I will never know enough. And the more I know, the more I seem to forget. I sometimes feel like a starving man with a hole in his stomach.

[Anonymous No.2916243]

>>2915859

It might not be healthy to consider that too hard

[Anonymous No.2916248]

>>2914848
Real life latency

[Anonymous No.2916255]

>>2916243
Speakung of Akira.
KAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEDDDDDAAAAAAAA

[SAGEGOESINALLFIELDS No.2916278]

>>2916248
My face when I once (or twice or a dozen of other times) was so high, all my senses came one second behind.
>Shit was awesome.

[Anonymous No.2916305]

I've been thinking a lot about death lately. That is, loosing sleep and being the most scared i have ever been in my life. But this thread has calmed me.

I AM the universe, death isn't the end, it's just a transition of my atoms. I'm still scared though, I'll never be fully comfortable with death.

I just don't even like thinking about it in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.2916307]

>>2915831
>Body has more bacteria than human cells
>Body is over 70% water
i herd bacteria have no water in them, also that their mass and volume is anywhere near eukaryotic 'human' cells.

by cell number, there are more bacteria, by mass and volume, human cells far outweigh bacterial cells.

>Body is over 90% empty space
i have no idea what that means unless it is referencing the 'empty space' around every atom.

>>2915258
>we only use 10 percent of our brain
ALL OF MY FUCKING RAGE. we do not only use 10% of our brain, that is totally retarded. literally every part of the brain has well understood functions and consequences for it being damaged

>blood is not really red
in the presence of oxygen, which is the 'default' state in most people's experience when blood is visible out of the body, it is.

[Anonymous No.2916314]

>when I see something I'm not actually seeing it, I'm seeing the photons bouncing off it
No, you're actually seeing it. Photons are the mechanism of seeing. (Or at least the mechanism of seeing physical things -- they are not the mechanism for seeing in dreams for example).

You can't see photons, because photons do not interact with one another.

[Anonymous No.2916327]

>>2916307
Isn't it also red inside the body, considering that you oxygenate it when you breathe. I've heard that is why you get a blue tent instead of a red blush when you die or hold your breathe too long.

[Anonymous No.2916329]

>>2916305

Born from void; return to void in death

Embrace it

[Anonymous No.2916331]

Schrodinger's cat.

QM in general.

[Anonymous No.2916334]

>>2916327
when it has oxygen bound to it, it is red. no/low oxygen bound, blue.

[Anonymous No.2916349]

>>2916305
Think about it like this: Death will instantly take you to the end of the universe (and whatever that implies). You will have no perception in-between, so billions or trillions of years will seem instantaneous. And if you ever do regain sentience by way of some multi-dimensional loop, you will instantly be in that sentience. Perhaps even in something resembling an afterlife.

But if not, then death is THE END AND YOU SHOULD BE SCARED LIKE FUCKING HELL.

[Anonymous No.2916371]

>>2916349
>>2916305
don't even bother thinking about it. to declare anything without empirical evidence is simply a testament to one's arrogance

[Anonymous No.2916372]

>>2916278
Yea thats what happens when you get superbaked, pretty common until you get a tolerance

[Anonymous No.2916378]

>>2916329
That is mathematically impossible.

[Anonymous No.2916401]

>>2916378
I have a counter argument:
This comment is impossible.

[Anonymous No.2916404]

>>2916378
Mathematically impossible does not necessitate that something is impossible in reality.

Mathematics are a human attempt to describe reality, our mathematical system is not identical to reality and our maths do not determine what is and is not real. Empiricism is our best tool for that, and math is a compliment to it.

While I'm not arguing that we come from void and go to void, I am just pointing out that "mathematically impossible" is not the same as "impossible."

[Anonymous No.2916435]

>>2916349
>>2916371

That eased my mind a little, Still fucking scared though. I just cannot stop thinking about it, It's going to happen one day and nothing I can do will stop it.

Why did i have to be born? life is hell, if hell ever existed.

[Anonymous No.2916439]

>>2914987
>quantum mechanics
>probabilistic universe
>common sense
wat

[Anonymous No.2916450]

The universe will never completely understand itself.

[Anonymous No.2916476]

>>2916349
um yeah i'm not scared. if anything i long for it.

[Anonymous No.2916481]

>>2916450
>Zhuangzi's philosophy is skeptical, arguing that life is limited and knowledge to be gained is unlimited

well fuck

[Anonymous No.2916489]

>>2916435
>In the fourth section of "The Great Happiness" (至樂 zhìlè, chapter 18), Zhuangzi expresses pity to a skull he sees lying at the side of the road. Zhuangzi laments that the skull is now dead, but the skull retorts, "How do you know it's bad to be dead?"

maybe you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi_%28book%29 look it up on amazon

[Anonymous No.2916494]

>>2916307
>i herd bacteria have no water in them
you herd rong

[Anonymous No.2916499]

that there are things so small that photons have no mass...

[Anonymous No.2916508]

>>2916494
fucking sarcasm, how does it work?

[Anonymous No.2916513]

>>2916450
nopno no no

The universe understands itself, what it does not understand is where it came from or where it is going.

But certainly, just like you and I, it understands itself in the now.

[Anonymous No.2916514]

>>2916371
You are right, there is no empirical evidence. But how am I supposed to not think of it. It is like not thinking of something I am standing in line for, when I have no clue what it is. And inquiry into that which lacks evidence is sort of the basis of the discovery of said evidence.

>>2916476
I long for it as well, but I am torn between all of the possibilities of another sentience and the possibility that life is an island of perception that should be embraced. And if you aren't scared, then why are you still alive. Killing yourself is rather easy.

[Anonymous No.2916544]

>>2916513
What I mean is that us humans will never understand the universe. we are a way for the universe to understand itself etc

[Anonymous No.2916554]

>>2916404
scientistfag.

[Anonymous No.2916555]

[Anonymous No.2916574]

Neutrinos. Right now, millions of these fuckers are going through your body. There are A TRILLION GAZILLION in your room right now, just casually passing by with no interaction. Yet detecting them is a bitch. Shit drives me crazy.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2916576]

I am a collection of organic molecules called Inurdaes.

[Anonymous No.2916602]

>>2916544
no no no

Taking shit you've heard and repeating it doesn't make anyone understand you more

[Anonymous No.2916635]

>>2916602
Almost 100% of human communication is taking shit you've heard and repeating it. Are you trolling or retarded?

[Anonymous No.2917329]

Every thought and memory is merely a bunch of electrical signals in a soup of chemicals.

[Anonymous No.2917335]

My entire body is made of the remnants of a massive supernova.

[Anonymous No.2917339]

>>2917329
That's about as insightful as saying the Great Pyramid is "merely a pile of rocks."

It's the intricate and specific arrangement of the constituents that makes it remarkable.

[Anonymous No.2917343]

That one day, very very very very far from now. There will be nothing. No matter, no energy, no Sun, no Earth, no galaxies, not even Black Holes. One day EVERYTHING will break down into nothingness.

[Anonymous No.2917349]

>>2917343
Well, that's not even true as far as anyone can tell. Have you ever heard of the law of conservation of energy?

[Anonymous No.2917363]

Visualization of the 93 billion light year - or 28 billion parsec - three-dimensional observable universe. The scale is such that the fine grains of light represent collections of large numbers of superclusters. The Virgo Supercluster - home of Milky Way - is marked at the center, but is too small to be seen in the image.

[Anonymous No.2917371]

>>2917335
Not all of it, only around 94%
by weight, I think

[Anonymous No.2917378]

>the Swiss Alps are filled with chocolate

[Anonymous No.2917385]

>>2917371
>only made of 94% stardust

Well, shit. That's not interesting in the least.

[Anonymous No.2917403]

>There is something instead of nothing

[Anonymous No.2917405]

>>2917329
>implying they aren't immaterial

[Anonymous No.2917417]

>>2914834
The earth spins really fast but we don't notice it?? WTF

[Anonymous No.2917424]

I was going to make some sort of troll post about gravity and Jesus, but fuck it.

Gravity is some whack shit, yo.

HOLD ME TIGHT, MOTHER EARTH.

[Anonymous No.2917437]

My island home is so small it doesn't show up on most maps of the Earth.

Our Earth is so small it doesn't show up on most maps of the Milky Way.

The Milky Way is so small it doesn't show up on most maps of the Virgo Supercluster.

The Virgo Supercluster is so small it doesn't show up on most maps of the Universe.

[Anonymous No.2917438]

>>2917424
Space time material explains it all clearly.
Planets actually travel in a straight line.

[Anonymous No.2917439]

>everything that exists was once crammed into a tiny dot

[Anonymous No.2917441]

>>2917437
Also, that we know all this with relative certainty from our infinitesimal point in the universe.

[Anonymous No.2917446]

>>2917438
It's basically the same, I'd put it more along the lines of planets travel the shortest distance between two points.

[Anonymous No.2917450]

>>2917439
Not entirly understood with only big bang theory.
The dot was created by a universe clash in the 11th dimension,
read up on M-Theory (Material-Theory).

[Anonymous No.2917455]

>>2917446
You give a more multi dimensional perspective than straight line.

:D :D :D

[Anonymous No.2917469]

The smallest parts of the universe are so small they're literally invisible. The largest are bigger than trillions of suns.

Oh God, someone hold me ;__;

[Anonymous No.2917494]

>>2915859
mind = blown

[Anonymous No.2917505]

>>2914834
Ceasing to exist.
Honestly, it's the only thing that gives me trouble.

[Anonymous No.2917511]

>>2916327
>>2916334

Your blood is never blue retards, its your skin that makes it look blue.

If your blood really is blue sometimes, howcome some of the veins on your arms and whereever don't look red?? At least one would be an artery you'd think

Also when blood is taken with a syringe it has no contact with the air because its sealed in the syringe but its still already red.

[Anonymous No.2917513]

>>2915859
Particles aren't aware of themselves. Large collections of particles are aware of other large collections of particles.

[Anonymous No.2917521]

>>2917505
If you believe in God, then you won't fear death.

[Anonymous No.2917558]

>>2917511
>implying deoxygenated blood doesn't have a bluish tinge to it

[Anonymous No.2917565]

>>2917521

If you believe in god than you fear death even more because I am willing to bet that each and every one of us has broken his commandmends more than once and maybe even commited one of the seven deadly sins.
So when you die, you go to hell and feel nothing but pain and agony for the rest of your eternal conscient existence.
I rather cease to exist tbh.

[Anonymous No.2917589]

>>2917521

Reality disagrees. This is why we don't have our armies composed of brainwashed fundies.

[Anonymous No.2917593]

When you're walking, your feet are bouncing off the ground. If it wasn't for the elasticity of the ground your feet would be locked to it and you would be stuck.

[Anonymous No.2917597]

>>2917558

It doesn't. It's brown.

The bluish appearance of veins is an optical illusion.

[Anonymous No.2917667]

Everything we do we do because it brings some sort of happiness or fullfillment.

We chase pussy, eat, study, work out or communicate because we get shots of dopamine from the brains which makes us feel happy.

Evolution theory arranged us humans as the most effective life form because we're junkies. Junkies for productivity.

[Anonymous No.2917791]

This thread has made me crave knowledge like never before and made me feel slightly better about life.


Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2917798]

>>2914856
One internet for you.

[Anonymous No.2917804]

Still can't wrap my head around special relativity
after 2 years studying it.

[Briggs No.2917855]

That the speed of light in a vacuum is /always/ relative to the observer. No matter how fast you are going, the speed of light in vacuum will always be 186,000 miles per second relative to YOU.

[Anonymous No.2917869]

When you're tucked up in bed you're spinning at over 1000mph and moving around the sun at over 67,000mph and around the galaxy at 490,000mph...

and you don't feel a thing.

[Anonymous No.2917889]

>>2917667
You know what I hate? People that argue with that by saying, if you think like that, then it must be pretty depressing to be you.

And you know what assholes, it is depressing when you realize everything about you including every thought in your brain is made to accomplish one purpose, to replicate your genetic information. But there is no other truth, it is ultimate causation and everything else is proximal justification of why you like the things you do and why you don't like the other things.

And if you really accept reality for what it is, there are some disastrous outcomes: A man killed himself over this reason, and he left a 1905 page suicide note. The part that pertains to this view of the world is a short 2 or so pages at the end starting on the very bottom of page 1874
at "Happiness, Wonder, Laughter, Love".

Here it is http://www.scribd.com/doc/47534122/suicide-note

[Anonymous No.2917905]

>>2914870
Citation is not necessary this is longstanding basic knowledge of microbio. The reason why there are more bacterial cells and consequently bacterial DNA than human DNA and cells is because there is a ~1000x difference in volume. There are a plethora of symbiotic relationships, and bacteria like staph and strep are always present on you while not necessarily causing disease.

[Anonymous No.2917910]

>>2915258
we only use 10% of our brain at any given moment. the other 90% is not being utilized since blood isnt there to support it.

[Anonymous No.2917915]

>>2917910
Neurophysiologist here, are you joking?

[Anonymous No.2917928]

>>2917910
No seriously, tell me you are joking. That's even worse than just saying we only use 10% of our brain which is already like saying the world is flat.

[Briggs No.2917930]

>>2917915
Simple scientific fact that I still can't wrap my head around: that people honestly believe they only use 10% of their brains.

[Anonymous No.2917935]

>>2917855

Not only in vacuum bro.

[Anonymous No.2917939]

>>2917910

> implying that even if that were true, the rest isn't used for maintaining body functions like breathing, repairing, checking temperature etc..

It's not true of course.

[Briggs No.2917949]

>>2917935
Well, the relational effect is always there, but the speed of light CAN be slowed down when passing through matter. But it causes some REALLY fucked up effects. Like, they used this super-dense, super-cooled material to slow the speed of light down to somewhere around 40mph through that medium. The weirdness was that the beam of light emerged from the other side of the medium before it finished traversing through the medium. IE: The beam could still be seen passing through the goop but was also visible shooting out the opposite side. There was a dead space where the light wasn't visible in the goop despite its emergence on the other side.

That was kinda mind blowing too.

[Anonymous No.2917963]

>>2917949

> the speed of light CAN be slowed down when passing through matter

No. That's just what popular science tells you. Light always travels at the same speed.

The reason for why one measures a longer time for light passing through matter is that it interacts with it. Absorption and emission, stuff like that. It takes time for a photon to be emitted again, that's why it appears slower, but in fact still travels at the speed of light.

[Anonymous No.2917976]

>>2917963

mfw my year 12 physics teacher lied to me

[Anonymous No.2917982]

>>2917976

Yeah, this concept is easier than introducing quantum interactions to pupils.

Just like it's easier talking about relativistic mass instead of explaining 4-vectors.

[Anonymous No.2917992]

>The closest Civilization to us is only 28.0 light years away.

[Anonymous No.2918000]

>all the order and structure of matter and life in the universe is the result of extremely simple base particles interacting under an extremely simple ruleset.

[Anonymous No.2918001]

It's impossible to "see" a photon.

[Anonymous No.2918003]

Water has memory.

[Anonymous No.2918010]

>>2917992
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.2918025]

>>2918003
Explain

[Anonymous No.2918029]

>>2918025
It remembers cocaine.

[Anonymous No.2918031]

archive please

[Anonymous No.2918033]

>>2918029
So water is a drug addict?

[Anonymous No.2918059]

>>2918025
>>2918029
>>2918033
you're being trolled

[Anonymous No.2918061]

>>2918059
>So water is a drug addict?
You didn't think that was an actual question, did you?

[Anonymous No.2918071]

>>2915165

This is so unbelievably wrong. Take some modern physics and learn special relativity. Nothing with mass can move faster than c (or even at c) relative to anything.

[Anonymous No.2918094]

>>2918071
it would be true for a third observer

(a)<------(observer)------>(b)

[Anonymous No.2918097]

>>2918094

Idiot.

Take his advice and shut up until you get some knowledge.

[Anonymous No.2918105]

>>2918094

From that observer´s perspective, a moves with -0.5c, b moves with 0.5c, what's your fucking point?

[Anonymous No.2918118]

>>2918097
>He doesn't understand basic SR

If two observers move in opposite directions from one another, both at 0.8c wrt a third observer at rest, it's true that none of them will see any other moving away from them at velocity greater than c.

The stationary observer will see the two others moving away from one another at 1.6c.

[Anonymous No.2918162]

>>2915706
No way dude. The equatorial radius is about 0.335% larger than the polar radius. That difference on the scale of a pool ball would be imperceivable. It would look like a perfect sphere.

[Anonymous No.2918267]

If the big bang theory is right, than (there are reasonabe solutions to the Einstein equations which say that) there are objects floating around (i.e. there are timelike geodesics) in the universe which neccessarily startet at the same point (the singularity) but are never able to communicate with each other (because there are no intersecting lightlike geodesics starting from any two spaceike seperated points on the two curves).

tl;dr:
The universe is as such that there are areas which are truely seperated - they can't even intereact (like sending a light signar) in theory. There is a part of the universe we can never know.

[Anonymous No.2918280]

>>2918118

> implying that's not what i said.

The guy i referenced had it wrong.

[Anonymous No.2918282]

>>2918267

You confuse big bang theory with general relativity. Not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.2918285]

>>2918282
GR solutions which attempt to model a big bang scenario universe. Are you happy?

[Anonymous No.2918298]

>>2918285

Not quite, big bang theory also includes quantum mechanics, so it cannot be only a solution of GR field equations.

Big bang theory never stated there was a single point in spacetime where it all began, as you implied.

[Anonymous No.2918305]

Everything is waves.

[Anonymous No.2918308]

>>2918305

Epic trollbait.

[Anonymous No.2918334]

the north american continent used to be covered in megafauna, including the now extinct but very real, Dire Wolves, giant condors, giant polar bears and giant sloths.

[Anonymous No.2920292]

>>2917889
>>2917667
>implying that's true you asspie fucktards

[Anonymous No.2920489]

Everything that was mind blowing to you was it so because it made your neurons connect to different neighboors.

All the ideas and thought that you ever had are made of that. Actually, all this universe that you are thinking about is nothing more than that in your mind. The difference between illusion, dream, reality, memory and imagination is minimum in your brain. Thinking of an apple, dreaming of an apple, actually seeing an apple or even reading of the word apple generates almost identical responses in your head.

I am probably millions of meters away from you, thinking of a message in form a code, called English, translated into signs that I push on a keyboard, translated into electrical signal, that works perfectly according to my visual translator called monitor. This translated message is travelling to your computer and being translated into your screen and fucking your head open with new chemical synapses. It depends on me, my computer, THE INTERNET, 4chan, your computer, your eyes, your response and all the tiny interactions in all those levels.

This is me blowing your mind.

[Anonymous No.2920496]

we do not have free will

[Anonymous No.2920533]

The every single one of us is descended from a small group of a couple thousand people who migrated out of Africa a long ass time ago.

[Anonymous No.2920555]

>>2920533
How about

>every one of us is descended from an organic molecule that self-replicated, going on to compete with it's own progeny for replication resources

[Anonymous No.2920587]

>>2920555

[Anonymous No.2920601]

The water molecules I'm drinking may very well have come to this planet from an ice comet billions of years ago and been pissed out of a dinosaur 65+ million years ago.

[Anonymous No.2920606]

"So in the future there are going to be these things called "Furries"

[Anonymous No.2920607]

>>2920496
I never understood how this is the case when coupled with Heisenberg uncertainty. Can someone explain how badly I am derping here?

[Anonymous No.2920620]

read this thread... and then tell me that there is no god

[Anonymous No.2920622]

>>2920601

Most of the matter which constitues your being came from the depth of the sun

[Anonymous No.2920630]

>>2920622

[Anonymous No.2920633]

>>2920607
Not the guy you're responding to. But at least some, if not most of your thoughts and emotions are not of your own control, but just reactions to stimuli and the chemistry of your brain.

A lot of the choices we make are influenced by those stimuli, and in some cases are altered by stimuli.

I'm not saying humans have NO free will, but they certainly don't have total free will.

[Anonymous No.2920635]

Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Breaker is almost the size of the universe.

:3

[Anonymous No.2920643]

>the human brain uses as much electricity as a ten watt battery

[Anonymous No.2920644]

>>2920633
I don't deny that all my thoughts arise from chemical reactions and that given sufficient computing power I could calculate all collisions of all molecules.

However, the transfer of electrons is the important part of any reaction and their exact speed/momentum is unknowable (unfixed?) then we could never predict what I will do.

[Anonymous No.2920663]

>>2920644
There was a thread last night about computer chips and quantum theory, that wouldn't the unstable nature of electrons produce computer errors? The conclusion is that the pathways of a computer chips don't rely on single electrons, but lots and lots and lots of them. Even though one electron may blip out of existence, there are still lots of them going down the pipe to tell the computer some data.

I think your brain works very much the same way, in that it doesn't rely on a single electron to form decisions.

[Anonymous No.2920678]

>>2915782
the universe is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE
it would be weird if you DIDN'T find that pattern somewhere out there.

[Anonymous No.2920683]

Humanity benefits more from /sci/ in a day than from anything else in a year

[Anonymous No.2920692]

>>2920620
this thread is proof that there is no god

die and go to church

[Anonymous No.2920722]

>>2920678
This. That image tells us fucking nothing. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE FILAMENTOUS STRUCTURE OMG!!!

[Anonymous No.2920748]

How big everything is and how small everything is.

WHY

[Anonymous No.2920750]

>>2920663
Ok, nice way of framing it.

Surely there is a boundary though? A point were there is just enough Na+ in the post synaptic terminal when an electron blips and an NMDA channel doesn't open and the long term potentiation doesn't occur and you forget the fact and you fail the exam and you get a 2:2 and you fail to get onto the masters course and you can't get a PhD ad nauseum.

I realise I'm being obtuse, but if anyhting you've just made me doubt quantum computing with that statement. Maybe I'm over analysing though.

[Anonymous No.2920765]

>>2920750
I think we're talking many many many many many many electrons to hit the action potential. Enough that the probability aspect isn't going to have much effect. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.2920779]

>>2920750
Actually, thinking about it, all I've suggested is that prediction on all events is impossible, the standard Laplace demon. What I haven't done at all is suggest how this could imply free will.

>>2920765
Cheers pal, helped me overcome my metaphysical insecurities.

[Anonymous No.2920785]

>>2920607
People treat the uncertainty principle like it's magic. But it arises naturally from how we represent things in the mathematics. In Fourier analysis, when transforming from the time domain to the frequency domain, locally concentrated features in one domain are globally distributed in the other. So one can't readily know about local or global features in both domains at the same time.

[Anonymous No.2920794]

Just thinking that some of my great great greatest grandparents were monkeys, mice, fish, and bacteria. Also, every single one of them has gotten laid and was reproductively successful, so from an evolutionary standpoint I am just a "dead end"

Also, shit blows my mind that I'm just part of a really long chemical reaction that started on earth billions of years ago.

And the very nature of matter and the universe. Time, energy, physical things ,it's all an illusion created by perception. There is no "real" universe.

The mind also blows my mind. Everything I've ever known and will know, all of my experiences and emotions, it's all stored in this tiny 10 ounce blob inside my skull. If the slightest damage occurs to this blob, that's it, my entire existence is lost.

Finiteness. Yeah, most people's minds are blown by infinity, but mine is blown by finiteness. There is a finite number of things I could ever experience in this universe. Only a finite number of things my brain can physically process. Only a finite number of things can be stored in my 12 ounce blob. What happens when you run out of space? Not like it could ever happen, there's so much room in there but...shit man think of all the things that exist in this universe that we just can't even know about because our minds have physical limits on them.

[Anonymous No.2920805]

>>2920779 is right, Laplace's demon is dead. http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0708/0708.1362v2.pdf

[Anonymous No.2920806]

>>2920785
So it's more a mathematical problem, than a reality problem?

[Anonymous No.2920812]

>>2920785
oh shit...
>mfw it all makes perfect sense

Never seen it explained so succinctly, cheers anon.

[Anonymous No.2920820]

>>2920794
>so from an evolutionary standpoint I am just a "dead end"

[Anonymous No.2920831]

Yeah, basically.

[Anonymous No.2920837]

You are nothing but a mote of dust standing atop another mote of dust located in a mote of dust within another mote of dust, etc. etc. in comparison to the Universe.

[Anonymous No.2920844]

Every time I eat something, I always think abou how the food is just atoms rubbing up against my tongue and being dissolved by saliva. The whole "taste" sensation is my brain giving me information about the atoms "touching" my tongue (of course they really aren't touching)

When you get full it seems like you can "feel" the food inside your stomach. But really, that too is just a chemical message in your brain telling you to stop eating. You could theoretically trigger that message without even having food inside your belly! Imagine feeling full without having anything inside you.

I just ruined eating for myself

[Anonymous No.2920845]

>>2914834
How large the universe is. I mean, I can understand it, but it seems from day to day I don't want to. The idea that our planet, our people is so insignificant that it barely registers in our solar system let alone the universe itself just makes me think that it can make someone lose hope and perspective of things. Just a small speck unrecognizable among the trillions of stars.

[Anonymous No.2920869]

You will never get to experience anything that happens after you die.

[Anonymous No.2920874]

that when I see a yellow school bus drive down the road the school bus is actually reflecting yellow.. so when we say something is a color what we mean is that it is every color except that color, which is why it is reflecting it..

[Anonymous No.2920881]

Particles have arranged themselves in a manner in which they are aware of themselves, and those particles are us.

[Anonymous No.2920898]

All of the human minds on earth physically make up less than .00000000001% of the solar system (just pulling random numbers out of my ass but yeah, a really small fraction)

The solar system is just a tiny fraction of the galaxy, which is an even smaller fraction of the entire universe.

To believe humanity is just the universe understanding itself... on one hand it takes such a small fraction of the universe to understand so much about itself. On the other, given how large and complicated the universe really is, it seems crazy to believe that the collective human population could even "know" so very much about th universe at all.

[Anonymous No.2920900]

>>2914921
WAAAAAAAAY wrong about the distance of proxima centauri from the sun. this site lists it as closer to our sun that the earth is to the moon

[Anonymous No.2920904]

Imagine the following scenario:
Two cars are moving away from each other, in opposite directions, each traveling a speed of 10mph. Despite Car A moving 10 mph, it appears that Car B is moving 20mph away from him. Keep that in mind.

Also keep in mind that the universe is actually expanding faster and faster, not slower.

So two galaxies that are expanding away from each other are expanding faster and faster. To Galaxy A, Galaxy B appears to be moving away at twice the speed.
Eventually the galaxies will be moving away from each other a little over half the speed of light, well within the realms of mechanical acceleration. However, Galaxy B now appears to be moving faster than the speed of light.

Therefore: There will come a point where objects in space begin to start vanishing. as the light reflected from them is not moving fast enough to reach us. For all of our intents and purposes, these objects will simply cease to exist, lost forever, and there is nothing we can do about it.

[Anonymous No.2920926]

The sun is just a bunch of atoms in space that happen to be very close to each other. The concept of singular "things" is just a human perception.

[Anonymous No.2920937]

>>2920904
>For all of our intents and purposes, these objects will simply cease to exist, lost forever, and there is nothing we can do about it.

But they don't. The information they contain is only lost relative to us.

[Anonymous No.2920953]

>>2920937

If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

[Anonymous No.2920958]

>>2920953
It will vibrate the air.

air vibrations = sound

/thread

[Anonymous No.2920961]

>>2920937
Note how I said "For OUR intents and purposes"

[Anonymous No.2920968]

The sun and the moon appear almost the same size in the sky. Such a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.2920969]

>>2914859
this

[Anonymous No.2920973]

>>2920961
You mean for our INTENSIVE purposes?
>I'm so sorry, I just couldn't resist.

[Anonymous No.2920977]

>>2920958
Some people define air vibrations as noise, not sound.
They define sound as perception of noise.

Then we can raise more questions, like, if a tree falls in a forest with no one around but a tape recorder, if you listen to the recording, does the tree make a sound?

[Anonymous No.2920981]

>>2920961
Yeah, I noticed it. It's just an addition to the mindfuckery that it all still exists.

[Anonymous No.2920982]

>>2920977
> like, if a tree falls in a forest with no one around but a tape recorder, if you listen to the recording, does the tree make a sound?

that sort of misses the point, don't you think?

[Anonymous No.2920987]

Nothing came before the big bang. Seriously, nothing. Hawkins talked about how before the big bang all the mass was compressed so much that space was distorted into infinity, and because of that time also was distorted into infinity. Effectively, time was "locked" until the big bang occurred. Granted, this is only using our understanding of time, there could potentially be something that occurs when time and space is distorted so severely that we simply don't have a comprehension of knowing. But Hawkins says to that "Everything that happened before the Big Bang could not affect what happened after"

[Anonymous No.2920988]

>>2920958
>implying that little bullshit tidbit would /thread an epic thread like this one

[Anonymous No.2920990]

>>2920982
misses one point, raises another

[Anonymous No.2920992]

>>2920973
Likely, "intents and purposes" sounds right to me but if I got the phrase mixed up, so be it. The meaning behind it stands though.

[Anonymous No.2920997]

>>2920977

sound = noise

[Anonymous No.2920993]

How nigger, niggers are.

[Anonymous No.2920999]

>>2920992
>>2920988

do you two not understand 4chan?

[Anonymous No.2921008]

>>2920987
who's that "screaming jay" hawkins? i had no idea he had such deep insight on the universe. geuss i'll have to bust out a few old mp3s

[Anonymous No.2921286]

>>2920977
>Some people define air vibrations as noise, not sound.
>They define sound as perception of noise.

But now that's just semantics. Noise is just a sound, an unwanted one. Extending its meaning, it's an "unwanted signal" (for example, electrical noise).
Also, it's subjective. To me, trash metal is noise, but for some people is something worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.2921290]

>>2915270

fucking lol'd

[Anonymous No.2921466]

>>2915859

Holy shit!

>mfw

[Anonymous No.2921776]

epic thread revival bump

[Anonymous No.2921824]

>there are this many intelligent people on 4chan.
Blows my puny mind.

[Anonymous No.2923420]

>mfw everything, even the basic laws are just a product of time itself

[Anonymous No.2923552]

>>2923420