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[Anonymous No.2886815]

Florida Senate Judiciary approves repeal of church state separation


http://www.examiner.com/humanism-freethought-in-tampa-bay/florida-senate-judiciary-approves-repeal-o
f-church-state-separation?CID=examiner_alerts_article

the christian states of america

[Anonymous No.2886819]

Oh putain...

[Anonymous No.2886833]

More reason to move to glorious Canada

[Anonymous No.2886837]

>>2886833

>Canadumb
>glorious

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.2886841]

>>2886833
aka North North America.
It's reason to leave the continent, not go to Canada

[Anonymous No.2886843]

>>2886837

>America
>Better than glorious Canada

I would post a picture of laughing bitches to make you feel insecure, but I do not have any on this computer.

[Anonymous No.2886847]

>>2886815
In twenty years time China and Russia will be the good guys and wage anti-extremist wars in NA

[Anonymous No.2886848]

>>2886841

And what would you say is better than North America? Europe? Have fun with your 20% muslim population in 50 years. Canada and Sweden are the only garunteed safe zones for the distant future. I don't speak Swedish, and I already live close to the Canadian border, so...

[Anonymous No.2886851]

>>2886843

What's so great about Canada? The winter weather sucks, they have annoying Frenchmen who are trying to secede from the rest of the country every five minutes, it's really boring, and the place is an economic satellite of the US.

[Anonymous No.2886856]

our you could move your fat ass and fix the country

[Anonymous No.2886857]

>>2886851

I'm from Minnesota, I really don't give a fuck about cold weather

[Anonymous No.2886861]

>>2886848
Asia or Australia/New Zealand.
No nut case Christians trying to take over the government there.
Why do white amerifats think that only europe and america exist?

[Anonymous No.2886865]

>>2886857

Eh, Minnesota is Canada lite anyway.

[Anonymous No.2886867]

>>2886861

Because Australia and New Zealand are irrelevant and Asia is fucking Asia.

[Anonymous No.2886869]

>>2886843
It is.

Nobody wants to go to Canaderp, that's why nobody cares about it. Plus it's fucking boring there.

[Anonymous No.2886871]

>>2886867
I see no logic in your answer, just blind ignorance.
Typical of an Amerifat like yourself.

[Anonymous No.2886874]

what about china?

[Anonymous No.2886875]

>>2886848

Sweden's got plenty of Muslims too.

[Anonymous No.2886879]

>>2886815
Florida =! the whole country

I get more worried about the South everyday.

Also I'm pretty sure this will get struck down by the supreme court eventually. This is an illegal action.

oh and typical Canadians with an inferiority complex posting in a thread that has nothing to do with them again. They need to leave, nobody mentions them and they shouldn't speak unless spoken to.

[Anonymous No.2886885]

Canada isn't quite a socialist paradise either. Most of them are in the eastern cities while the west is much more rugged and redneck.

[Anonymous No.2886888]

>>2886879

>implying the fact that Canada is ignored isn't what makes it glorious

[Anonymous No.2886893]

>>2886874

Enjoy your overcrowded, polluted police state.

[Anonymous No.2886901]

>>2886893
>overcrowded
wat? Do you have any idea how large China is?
The police state part is right though, those fuckers really need to have a revolution or something

[pascal !n5Z3VuZapw No.2886925]

>>2886861
Isnt australia the country that decided to save money on education by having the church provide all guidance councellors?

[Anonymous No.2886939]

>state judiciary overturning the 1st amendment

I see no legal problem with this.

[Anonymous No.2886946]

separation of church and state never existed to begin with. it was just some random letter liberals pretend is an official u.s. document

[Anonymous No.2886947]

>>2886879
How is this illegal?

inb4 1st amendment, which only restrains the federal government. This is a state issue.

[Anonymous No.2886952]

>>2886947
>federal law
>does not apply to states

HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW

[Anonymous No.2886956]

>>2886947

The Supremacy Clause, which says that states may not override the Bill of Rights.

[Fr 87 No.2886957]

>>2886939

Oh you mean this?

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Yeah..... Doesn't apply to individual states. It just means that the federal government can't establish any.

[Fr 87 No.2886961]

>>2886956


Except it doesn't say

>Government shall make no...

It says

>CONGRESS shall make no....

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2886968]

Learn French, live in France.

[Anonymous No.2886969]

>>2886947
You just went full retard. I hope the undergrads in the legal department of your university beat you to death.

[Fr 87 No.2886973]

>>2886968


Ferme ta putain de gueule.

[Anonymous No.2886974]

>>2886968
>France
>Good

laughingcunts.jpeg

[Fr 87 No.2886977]

>>2886969


No. In this case he's right.
The first amendment specifically uses the word "congress."

[Anonymous No.2886979]

>>2886901
Do you even know shit about China's population density? The majority of them live near the east sea. Western China is empty as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2886981]

>>2886979

And it's backwards as fuck too. Outside the major cities, much of the country still looks like it did in the Mao era.

[Anonymous No.2886986]

states used to have their own official religions. all this anti-religious bullshit is a modern communist(liberal) invention. all the rules were pertaining to the federal government ONLY.

[Anonymous No.2886990]

>>2886977
Yes, but what the Constitution says isn't how the Constitution is used. Most legal shitheads hold that the Fourteenth Amendment extends the things Congress can't do to citizens to the states.

[Anonymous No.2886993]

>>2886986

Not really. Secularization and religious freedom is fine and curbs the abuses that happen when religion is mixed with politics. Enforced atheism (what communist countries did) is another matter altogether.

[Anonymous No.2886995]

>>2886986
Separation of church and state is and should be a universal concept in this country. Saying otherwise is TREASON.

[Anonymous No.2886999]

>implying an amendment can be repealed

[Anonymous No.2887008]

>>2886995
>following the constitution and the original intent for this country is TREASON, listening to my opinion/lies/propaganda is THE ONLY WAY

self important communist retard detected

[Fr 87 No.2887023]

>>2886999


How's prohibition treating you?

[Anonymous No.2887028]

>>2887008
I'm no commie. I'm a god fearing libertarian and you can't force your beliefs onto others in this country. It's unAmerican and most importantly not following the constitution IS the worst kind of treason here. We promised freedom of religion.

[Anonymous No.2887037]

>>2887008

Yeah, making this a Christian country with no religious freedom is exactly why the founding fathers came here. It's not like they were fleeing that kind of thing in Europe.

[Anonymous No.2887045]

>>2887028
>force beliefs boohoo

learn2 states rights "libertarian"

the real american libertarian position is de-centralization of federal power and competition between states. youre just an atheist cry baby.

[Anonymous No.2887056]

FUCK YEAH, /new/'s BACK

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2887064]

>>2887045
Oh god, my brain feels like it's being infected by the stupid.

[Atwill !kelPcGZQlE No.2887078]

>Supporters of the bill claim that prohibiting government from funding religious groups discriminates against religious groups.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2887083]

>>2887078
>Supporters of the bill claim that prohibiting government from funding marijuana growers discriminates against marijuana growers

[Anonymous No.2887087]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education

tl;dr supreme court went full retard in 1947

[Anonymous No.2887092]

>>2887045
I do believe in those things but do you know anything about the history of this country? Almost four hundred years ago on the mayflower, they came here because...?

Millions of immigrants from Europe came to America in the late 1800s and early 1900s because the country promised freedom of religion. You cannot abandon the most American things, the federal and state levels should stay stay clear of any religion to preserve the freedom and integrity of people's personal beliefs.

[Anonymous No.2887106]

>>2886999
Why would you think an amendment couldn't be repealed? Are you non-America? If so, that ignorance is understandable.

[Anonymous No.2887111]

>>2887092
>things should be this or that way because i say so baww

fact is, states should be able to do whatever they want. thats the main reason one state could not purchase or conquer land from any other. they are supposed to be in COMPETITION, while the federal government kept everything fair and balanced. it doesnt matter what the fuck they do, people will go to the BEST one, and the loser will have to change. stop pushing your beliefs on everyone, atheist. you have no clue about what this country was supposed to be, this much is clear.

[Anonymous No.2887121]

>>2887064
He was just explaining the normal Libertarian Stance to the idiot, how was anything he said in that post contradictory / "stupid"?

[Anonymous No.2887129]

>>2887121
stance* libertarian* Oh god, why did I capitalize that.
/OCD

[Anonymous No.2887137]

>>2887092
Europeans didn't come here for religious freedom. There was plenty of that in Europe by the 1900s. They came here for economic opportunity, which will always be better than religious opportunity, and which is a more fundamental American belief.

[Anonymous No.2887215]

>Implying this will pass
>Implying if it does it wont be struck down by a random judge until it hits the supreme court and it's ordered out of legistration
>Implying loads of voters wouldn't turn on the republicans for this
>Implying it's not going to be a laughing stock when they try to implement

[Anonymous No.2887256]

>>2887137
>They came here for economic opportunity,
>which is a more fundamental American belief.

So why exactly is it that we do such a fine line in protectionism, creating an ultra rich elite caste and government propped up industry, which are both massive obstacles to economic opportunity?

[Atwill !kelPcGZQlE No.2887257]

>>2887215
Yeah, I'm not actually worried about this either. The article mentions that even church officials are openly expressing their disdain towards this bill. It won't amount to much in the long run.

[Anonymous No.2887259]

>>2887045
>>2887045
it's the stupid opinion because libertarians are stupid.

Libertarians are just above Anarchist, on the stupid idea plane.

[Anonymous No.2887262]

>>2887256
>if someone else is rich and successful, then i am a victim of theirs

communist detected

[Anonymous No.2887274]

>>2887137
Actually, it was for both reasons. Religious freedom in the 1900s in Europe still wasn't great as America's. And the most important reason, Europe cared more about religion than America at the time, at least focusing on it. Americans were considering the most lax people in the early 1900s and throughout most of the 20th century. Cold war tensions did little to change that. America is extremely anti commie, obviously. I don't know what faggot mentality caused yurop to be so hostile to religious people.

[Anonymous No.2887278]

>>2887037
That's the complete opposite of why they came here, actually.

[Anonymous No.2887279]

>>2887262
>not being happy about state subsidised business dominating markets which otherwise would not survive
>communist

[Anonymous No.2887288]

>>2887274
They'd stopped burning witches in Europe way before they stopped in America

cool religious freedom bro

[Anonymous No.2887295]

>>2887256
Economic oppurtunity in America even today is still quite easy compared to the majority of the world for ambitious intelligent people just not the common man and the economic opportunity in America back the was TREMENDOUS.

We know for sure the Europeans who came to America as a land of opportunity succeeded. Look at all the European named companies and items we own today (they're American companies of course) but they have German/French/Italian names etc. and their founders all came as immigrants to America.

And obviously, you may be their offspring.

[Anonymous No.2887305]

>>2887274

>I don't know what faggot mentality caused yurop to be so hostile to religious people.

Religion was used as an instrument of monarchical control in Europe, while it was not in America.

[Anonymous No.2887308]

>>2887288
>They'd stopped burning witches in Europe way before they stopped in America

Cool ignorance eurofaggot. No one has ever been burned for being a witch in the US. Europe killed between 40,000 and 100,000 people.

[Anonymous No.2887309]

>>2887305
>religion is just twying to bwainwash peoples. some guy that died 5000 yrs ago just wants to control me GAWSH, why cant mommy and daddy see this?

[Anonymous No.2887311]

>>2887288
If you're trying to reference the Salam witch trials, the federal government didn't exist to have jurisdiction nor did America even exist as a nation at all.

also

>The last executions of people convicted as witches in Europe took place in the 18th century.

Right back at you, brah.

[Anonymous No.2887318]

>America's future
>and nothing of value will be lost

[Anonymous No.2887328]

>>2887305
So why don't they dump their monarchies completely? I still see faggot ass yuro royals draining their nation's tax dollars. Sure is archaic and backwards for them to even still have em around. They shouldn't be quoting history, considering what the French revolution was.

[Anonymous No.2887344]

>>2887328
>Sure is archaic and backwards

just like religiously following the commands written down on a piece of paper by a bunch of rich white men over 200 years ago

[Anonymous No.2887385]

Kind of SOL really.

America is going further down the shitter, Canada is America 2.0, all the other decent countries are being taken over by sandniggers.

Can we take over say, Turkey and start a NEW, new world?

[Anonymous No.2887456]

>>2887111
oh my god

this is what libertarians actually believe

[Captain Olimar !!ooztLPjQLnv No.2887471]

>>2887385
Antarctica.

[Anonymous No.2887482]

>>2887471

I was thinking about that, but it lacks any economic viability, or, well, usefulness other than it's in the middle of nowhere and almost entirely empty.

You'd have to import almost everything, so...

[Anonymous No.2887488]

>>2887482
We can export promise and import dreams.

Er, food, and water, and people.

[Anonymous No.2887502]

>>2887471
>>2887482
>>2887488

Well I've got about $1,500 in the bank, we might as well get started...

Think that's enough for a good tent?

[Anonymous No.2887536]

>>2887502
"A small group of internet users were found frozen to death on the coast of Antarctica. It is presumably due to the victims being part of a homosexual suicide cult."

[Anonymous No.2887547]

This thread is terrible.

[Anonymous No.2887549]

>>2887536

I lol'd.

10/10

[Anonymous No.2887599]

Florida gets everything that it deserves. We elected a criminal of a governor and such an overwhelmingly Republican majority that this kind of nonsense can run amuck in the state.

Though, I tend to believe removing the blaine amendment goes a long way to implenet the Republicans future of education. If they get rid of blaine amendment while subsequently defunding public education they can get their wish of a more "robust" voucher system.

In the end, state is so overwhelming Republican that even if this bill is stuck down in the courts, it will still have a huge effect on the future of education in the state. The shame is that, Florida has gone such a long way in improving its education system, and now the push for deregulation will like regress any progress made.

[Anonymous No.2887603]

>>2886815

[Anonymous No.2887608]

Florida recently pretty much legalized bribery too. Florida is batshit insane. Blame the old, senile people living there.

[Anonymous No.2887628]

>>2887608
You call it bribery, I call it capitalistic freedom.

[Anonymous No.2887647]

>repeal of church state separation

Offred: Nolite te bastardes carborundorum