Titan Moon

[Anonymous No.2885745]

Colonising Titan be worth it? Personally, I think it might, if we developed the technology to somehow transport goods between earth and titan in a short amount of time, then most of our resource needs would be solved, since titan has so much materials which we could use such as methane.

On the other hand, say if we somehow magically terraformed the little inhabitable bastard, reckon it could sustain an oxygen rich atmosphere and reasonable not too extreme temperature?

If you have other thoughts and ideas to do with the future of titan, please be my guest to post them, just try not to be a faggot like me (OP).

[Anonymous No.2885751]

you had no ideas. you just have a hypothetical

[Anonymous No.2885750]

Dude, there's a chance life already exists there according to nasa. I don't think we should be destroy the first alien life we've ever encountered just so we can leave earth. There's heaps of other places we could mine resources from

[Anonymous No.2885754]

Titan is gay like your mom. I'm going to the Sun bitches, smell ya later.

[Anonymous No.2885759]

Honestly, it's either those little methane based assholes (life forms) or us. Plus when the sun turns into a red giant, it could be paradise on titan.

[Anonymous No.2885760]

Is methane really something we need more of on earth... Aren't there lakes and rivers that are literally flammable and occasionally shoot fireballs from their bowels due to their over saturated methane content and isn't that one of the big natural contributors to the global warming problem?

[снайпер No.2885761]

Sure we could colonize Titan, but there'd be no point in mining it for hydrocarbons - the price to bring back any appreciable amount is astronomical. It would be cheaper to simply create hydrocarbons synthetically here on Earth.

As for Terraforming, no. Titan is too far away from the sun. Surface temperatures go down to 90k [This is almost cold enough for oxygen to turn into a liquid], even if you waved your magical wand and sprinkled some fairy dust, giving Titan the same atmospheric composition as Earth in an instant, it would all just end up freezing.

[Anonymous No.2885772]

when the sun turns into a red giant, it could be paradise on titan. so no it might not be freezing at all.

[Anonymous No.2885779]

>>2885772
thats a good few billion years from now tho isn't it?

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885780]

>>2885761
Would mirrors in orbit around Titan and Saturn be able to bring up the temperature to something more hospitable? I'm not exactly sure how many mirrors you would require and whether it could safely stay orbiting without the gravitational havoc of the other Saturnian moons.

[Anonymous No.2885781]

>>2885780
Do mirrors reflect heat or just light?

[Anonymous No.2885782]

>>2885745

Methane? Really? Going all the way to fucking Titan to harvest fucking methane.

Maybe we should mine ammonia on Jupiter. I hear we could use it for fertiliser.

[Anonymous No.2885785]

>>2885782
Yeah true about the methane mining. We have enough worries about the methane deposits on earth contibuting to global warming without bringing more here

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885790]

>>2885781
I know if I have a mirror shining in sunlight toward me it feels hotter on the area I'm shining the light on, so I guess yes.

[Anonymous No.2885791]

>>2885781

...Heat... is the vibration of particles... Light is electromagnetic radiation... It vibrates particles by radiating them...

Jesus Christ. Is this what /sci/ became?

[Anonymous No.2885798]

>>2885781
>>2885790

The light heats particles. You do not 'reflect' heat.

[Anonymous No.2885804]

It would be cheaper to get methane from the sea floor than go to fucking titan to get it.

[Anonymous No.2885806]

>>2885804

It would be cheaper to replace fossil fuels with idiots of OP's caliber on treadmills than go to fucking Titan for methane.

[Anonymous No.2885817]

>>2885745

Titan is a very good place for holidays but it is not for colonising soon, good luck warming it up

[Anonymous No.2885824]

We won't be going anywhere until space becomes big business. Once space stops being national projects and starts being a product to sell then you and your dog can go roaming around Titan all you like.

[Anonymous No.2885826]

you can't heat titan up by any means because its an ice moon, it could already have a subsurface ocean so heating it up by any amount could destabilise the surface. heat it up to any level comfortable for humans and kiss land goodbye.

also heating would cause the atmosphere to escape.

bottom line you lose all of titans benefits if you try to heat it.

[Anonymous No.2885838]

>>2885745

[Anonymous No.2885843]

>>2885838
titan has the chance of life existing in liquid methane and possible subsurface liquid water.
Europa only has possible subsurface water.

[Anonymous No.2885847]

>>2885824

Then we won't be going anywhere, because there's no profit to be gained from space in the immediate future.

[Anonymous No.2885845]

>>2885745
OP you are an idiot. If we could develop this magic technology that makes transport between Saturn and Earth quick, then we are not going to have resource problems. If we can do it, we don't need to. Satrun is 10 billion kilometres away. That shit is far.

[Anonymous No.2885857]

The only way any economic activity in space can occur other than telecommunications is after transhumanism occurs, emphasis on "trans", not some dumb fleshbag with machines attached to it's limbs, I mean sapient computers and nano-machines, something we can send to the moon with a solar panel for energy and in 100 years has constructed an industrial civilization on the moon, replicating itself and all the technology it needs to extract minerals and produce energy.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885872]

>>2885845
>Satrun is 10 billion kilometres away.
No.

[resident /sci/ economist !!0CqB7P/574e No.2885894]

>>2885872

Hello Comrade, nice seeing you.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885901]

>>2885894
'Sup.

[resident /sci/ economist !!0CqB7P/574e No.2885904]

>>2885901

Oh I love Bill Hicks.

[Anonymous No.2885927]

>>2885847

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Galactic

>implying

[Anonymous No.2885930]

>>2885857

That's the dumbest shit I've ever read.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885936]

>>2885927
>The sub-orbital flight itself will only be a small fraction of that time. The weightlessness will last approximately 6 minutes.[2] Passengers will be able to release themselves from their seats during these 6 minutes and float around the cabin.[1]
>6 minutes
Now that's just disappointing. For 200,000 dollars? Fuck no.

[Anonymous No.2885948]

>>2885936
hah! You hipsters whine about capitalism and how the rich are all amoral sociopaths constantly at each other's throats and life is a rat-race of fruitless heated competition against your fellow man where the most selfish win, yet your only chance of achieving your dreams of transhumanism and space travel is to struggle with all the other "corporate drones" to join the elite so you can afford all these nice things.

[Anonymous No.2885956]

>>2885927

It's a long way from taking wealthy geezers into low orbit to harvesting fucking methane on Titan.

[Anonymous No.2885960]

>>2885948
Lol, Money is nothing. I'd much rather live life without money than with it, and I could do easily - there are so many ways around it. Generally, in my eyes, it's not really there; I just get reminded often that I need to pay bills and things. I'd rather just live poor and esoteric; it's more adventurous, and you're not just sat on your ass all day, rock climbing or anything else stupid and ego-based.

-wisest human

[resident /sci/ economist !!0CqB7P/574e No.2885963]

>>2885960

Hello Friend. I see you have opinions about money. Let me just be the first person to acknowledge them and then stare at you.

[Anonymous No.2885967]

>>2885948

It will become less expensive with time.The richfags pay for orbital flights while the poorfags go to a hot country, then the richfags are paying for moon tours and the poorfags will be doing orbital flights, then the richfags will be strolling around mars and the poorfags will be doing moon tours. Etc etc

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2885976]

>>2885948
If I were to become rich, I would do it through creating an original product or service. That is the only real tangible upside to capitalism, things that are needed or wanted are great business and drivers of innovation.

>>2885967
Pretty much this. Though I may remind you aeroplanes and yachts are still nearly as expensive as when they first became commercial products for people.

[Anonymous No.2885978]

>>2885960
>>2885967
Maybe, but that would just leave you as the suckers who could never afford the latest life extension technology and died at 80 whilst I experience 1000s of years of wonders as the biological component of a supercomputer that controls an evil megacorporation, or something.
>>2885963
shoo

[resident /sci/ economist !!0CqB7P/574e No.2885987]

>>2885978

[Anonymous No.2885993]

>>2885976
I don't deny that luck and talent are factors in joining the global elite and I will milk opportunities and any skills I have as much as possible, they do not disqualify pathological levels of determination and cold hard logic however.

[Anonymous No.2886077]

>>2885782
I think we should learn from the past. The idea with fertilizer compounds mining on Jupiter is definitely reasonable. Yes fertilizers are cheap, yes fertilizers are never going to be expensive - in fact their prise will slightly drop.

But As Neils Armstrong said - I'll paraphrase:
"This is one pointless step on a space rock for me - bigass cost for taxpayers. lol"

So even the slightest amount of Jupiteranean fertilizer on Earth will produce immense amount of lulz - assuming EU is not financing it cause I don't want MY money to be wasted (though EU has the best money waste experts in the world). So i guess it is worth it.

I mean seriously this thread couldn't be meant for serious.