/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2870855]

This book is alright until Dawkins starts hamfisting Darwin into the perceived necessity of religion. Shit goes downhill from there.

But the first third or so of this book is alright, and he addresses all the major points that creationists bring to the table and soundly defeats them.

[Anonymous No.2870893]

>But the first third or so of this book is alright, and he addresses all the major points that creationists bring to the table and soundly defeats them.

>implying all Christians believe the earth is 10,000 years old

[Anonymous No.2870925]

>>2870893

This.

<- Thinks evolution is Gods most likely tool for creation of life.

[Anonymous No.2870928]

>>2870893

>Implying you can simply ignore the stuff that has already been proven wrong in your religion and still believe in the rest while still making perfect sense.

[Anonymous No.2871058]

>>2870928

Proven wrong?

How would you describe the big bang if it came to you in a vision if you lived a couple thousand years ago? You know, big explosion/expansion, suddenly coming into existence. Never having seen anything resembling an explosion before.

I'd say that : "Let there be light: and there was light." is pretty accurate.

Oh and you know, stars forming and all that with the blackness of space filling the emptyness between.

"And God saw the light, and it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

And yeah, when the earth was formed, it started living and produced a atmosphere, and tectonics started kicking in.

God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” God made the expanse, and divided the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse, and it was so. God called the expanse sky. There was evening and there was morning, a second day.
God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear,” and it was so. God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters he called Seas. God saw that it was good.

That's pretty accurate for a poem written thousands of years ago you know. It even mentions that animals and plants came in different stages, and that humans were among the last of them.

I fail to see how science has proven this wrong just because it mentions days as a poetic way of bringing the message (and well ok, it's got some orders a bit messed up).

[Anonymous No.2871076]

>>2871058
>(and well ok, it's got some orders a bit messed up).

Not to mention it doesn't accurately describe cosmology and earth's formation at all?

You've got to be kidding me. Genesis doesn't describe the earth's development with any degree of accuracy.

[Anonymous No.2871091]

>some asshole is like "and then he created blah blah blah that we see now", so this other fucking guy is like "LOOK! It is actually here so God did it just like this other dumb asshole said!"

>mfw god then miracles up people, completely glossing over billions of years of evolution. And talking snakes.

Yep, real fucking sciency in here.

[Anonymous No.2871094]

>>2871076

I think it does all right. No one understood biology or geology back then anyway.

[Anonymous No.2871095]

OP here.

I meant Christians and theologists.

Creationism is a joke, btw.

[Anonymous No.2871104]

>>2871058
>implying the big bang was a explosion
>implying there wasn't light before stars formed
>implying vague bullshit can't be made to describe anything

[Anonymous No.2871107]

>>2871058
>Implying the big bang was an explosion

[Anonymous No.2871116]

>>2871094
The Greeks at least knew the Earth was round.

[Anonymous No.2871117]

>>2871094
>I think it does all right.

If you think that, then you don't understand biology or geology either.

[Captain Olimar !!ooztLPjQLnv No.2871113]

>>2871094
They didn't understand much of anything.

That is why considering an ancient book to absolute truth is silly.

[Anonymous No.2871124]

>>2871104
>implying the big bang was a explosion
>was a explosion
>a explosion

[Anonymous No.2871127]

>>2871117

In what way do I not understand them?

[Anonymous No.2871155]

>>2871124
>I can't attack the point so I will attack the grammar!

[Anonymous No.2871327]

>>2871104

What? I even said expansion didn't I? Like it or not, many people still think it's an explosion, and I guess it would have seemed like on to him. That's reason enough to keep explosion there as well.
And yeah stars, that's one of the orders fucked up, another would be the birds before land animals.
I'm not saying it's completely accurate at all. I'm saying that this is a poem which came surprisingly close to hitting the spot. Something which is very far from the stereotypical invisible bearded man on cloud blinked it all into existence at least.

[Anonymous No.2871352]

>>2870893
>implying all Christians believe the earth is 10,000 years old
He specifically said "creationists", not "Christians".

[Anonymous No.2871369]

>>2871155
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion
"An explosion is a rapid increase in volume..."

well seeing as the big bang went from a singularity, to teh volume the size of the present universe, i think the term is justified.

so fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2871377]

>>2871116

Isaiah 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth

[Anonymous No.2871394]

>>2871369

Die in a fire EK.

[Anonymous No.2871404]

EK RUINS ANOTHER THREAD GUISE.

[Anonymous No.2871405]

>>2871352

The biggest point of creationism is that God created the universe, not so much that it has to be around 6k years old.
Sure, most of it's followers believe so, so I guess I can let that generalization slip, but I do believe we are allowed to talk here.

[Anonymous No.2871398]

>>2871377
>implying they didn't think it was a flat circle.
Nice try, though.

[Anonymous No.2871409]

>>2871394
no u.

>>2871404
shush, nigger. i made like 2 posts in the whole thread, you over sensitive fucktard

[Anonymous No.2871410]

>>2871409

You're fucking annoying. Get out.

[Anonymous No.2871416]

>>2871410
make me.

[Anonymous No.2871432]

>>2871416

Or I could just distract you to prevent you fucking up other threads. Which is it?

[Anonymous No.2871437]

>>2871124
>>2871409
>>2871416

once again ek has the attitude and maturity of a 14 year old

[Anonymous No.2871447]

>>2871369
>backpeddling

[Anonymous No.2871490]

>>2871416

I guess I made you :)

[Anonymous No.2871510]

>>2871369
He said "resembles an explosion", ie something went boom. Not there was a rapid expansion from asingularity, no one knows what that looks like...

And no that does not mean that "let there be light" is justified by that. Thats like saying "Well fuck it I don't get it might as well have been god"

[Anonymous No.2871512]

>>2871490
no you fucking didn't!
EK never retreats
EK never surrenders.

how the fuck am i backpeddling??

[Anonymous No.2871535]

>>2871512

Hahahaha you're far too easy to bait EK.

[Anonymous No.2871552]

>>2871535
lern-2-fukken-grammar

[Anonymous No.2871566]

>>2871552

-10/10

[Anonymous No.2871580]

>>2871566
>implying troll

[Anonymous No.2871596]

>>2871580

ohyou.jpg

[Anonymous No.2871629]

>>2871552
Whaaa...Back in the day women used to be graceful creatures. Fuck america.

[Anonymous No.2871675]

>>2871629

She's not American apparently.