WHY WHY WHY WHY

[PREPARE YOUR ANUS No.2851411]

>>Technicolour is very similar to the strong force, which binds quarks together in the nuclei of atoms, only it operates at much higher energies. It is also able to give particles their mass – rendering the Higgs boson unnecessary.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20357-mystery-signal-at-fermilab-hints-at-technicolour-force.h
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>>MFW

[Anonymous No.2851426]

[Anonymous No.2851511]

>The physics world is buzzing with news of an unexpected sighting at Fermilab's Tevatron collider in Illinois – a glimpse of an unidentified particle that, should it prove to be real, will radically alter physicists' prevailing ideas about how nature works and how particles get their mass.

>Budget constraints mean the Tevatron will shut down this year

>shut down massive lab which is discovering the nature of reality so we can pay for private special ed tutors to help niggers read

[Anonymous No.2851527]

>>2851511
More like
>getting shut down
>claim to alter total understanding of physics to receive funding

[Anonymous No.2851530]

>>2851511

>>mfw

[Anonymous No.2851532]

>>2851511

>yfw these niggers you don't want to educate form a mob and shootup the fermilab because they don't know why this things costs so much money and why it is important

[Anonymous No.2851534]

>>2851511

well, this is why the united states is fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.2851540]

>>2851511

[Anonymous No.2851563]

>>2851511
I like how it's always a dillhema between public education vs research and never either of them vs a shitload of weapons that no shane people would ever have use for.

[Anonymous No.2851567]

>>2851511


fuck that shit

[Anonymous No.2851569]

In other words if true fermilab owned cern and made the LHC useless?

[Anonymous No.2851608]

>>2851569
If it's true, fermilab gets shut down, and the LHC continues on with their discovery, taking all the credit.

[Physics Guy No.2851657]

>>2851411
Yes, there is some mysterious "new physics" that has been obsereved. The results were announced this Wednesday, with a seminar at Fermi-Lab, and a corresponding research paper.

Talk:
http://theory.fnal.gov/jetp/talks/Viviana.pdf

Paper:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.0699

The result is not the "standard Higgs". No one actually knows what the "result" actually is yet.

There are a few proposed explainations (in random order)

1) It is Technicolor EWSB:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.0976

2) It is SUSY:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.1002

3) W' and Z':
http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.1161

4) It was a false:
Confidence levels, were good, but until this behavior is observed at a different detector (or with higher confidence), we still can have some doubts

Any Questions?

[Anonymous No.2851666]

>>2851608
what credit? the researchers will just move or more likely not. most of the people who study this will not be at fermilab and they will keep working with the LHC.
so what we credit a machine?
there is little point in funding an outdated experiment.

[Anonymous No.2851676]

>>2851657
I think it's a false, personally.

[Physics Guy No.2851681]

>>2851676
Yes, I know quite a few people who think that as well.

Only time will tell.

[Anonymous No.2851684]

>>2851411
Fermi lab has been producing these particles for a while, its only just been discovered because it is only produced in .25% of experiments

the LHC has a greater chance to produce these particles as it operates at higher energy's then fermi (which just has enough energy to sometimes produce them)

Also, at 140-150 GeV/c^2 this particle is quite large (not as large as what the Higgs boson is predicted to be though), meaning that the range that the force that it would mediate (if it does mediate a force at all) would have a range far smaller then the weak and strong force

also
>getting info from NewScientist
Learn to read from good sources, not dribbled down garbage

[Anonymous No.2851694]

I have said this before, but my bet goes on Mach´s principle, which in its true form is not yet incorporated into general relativity.
When you rotate, how can you measure the difference between this situation and the situation when the complete universe rotates around you? To account for this symmetry, one can introduce a vector field, mediating a new force, that makes dark matter unnecessary and predicts deviations from the equivalence principle on small scales (scalar-tensor-vector gravity).
I guess they measured an effect due to this or better, i hope they did.

[Anonymous No.2851704]

>>2851657
real science? on my /sci/?

[Anonymous No.2851709]

>>2851657

Wasn´t there also a discussion about a Higgs-"cousin" particle?

[Anonymous No.2851722]

>>2851657
Too small IMO to be the W' or Z', they would much be larger (1+ TeV)

Technicolor mat fit but if so then wouldn't the standard model would have to be radically changed or simply thrown out in order to accept it?, although this may lead to a framework that would allow us to model the big bang to a greater extent then what we can currently do so

[снайпер No.2852271]

>>2851722
>Technicolor mat fit but if so then wouldn't the standard model would have to be radically changed or simply thrown out in order to accept it?

Oh god I hope so