/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2845528]

So I've been playing a lot of games recently that reference the apocalypse (with good reason- it makes for a great game storyline). It occurs to me that in each game, the remnants of humanity tend to run the gamut between utter idiots and paragons of scientific knowledge. Thus, I think it'd be interesting to prepare now for potential apocalypses- not just to survive, as survival manuals teach, but to thrive, with the combined weight of the modern pre-apocalyptic scientific community behind us.
To that end, does anyone know of any good sources that catalogue combinations of survival knowledge with important scientific discoveries that would be integral to mankind getting back on their feet after an apocalyptic event?

TL;DR: Either look for compilations of scientific data relevant to apocalyptic survival and thriving, or contribute tidbits from your own knowledge.

[Anonymous No.2845554]

Don't cannibalize. It might keep you full, but it causes prion diseases and there's no way to treat those. Kuru is a nasty thing.

Weaponry and preserved food are better investments than gold in a true SHTF.

Don't trust anyone who doesn't stand as much to lose as you do if you were to be betrayed.

[Anonymous No.2845569]

>>2845554
This is a good start, though the latter two are more logic based than anything else. If anyone is curious of my specific inspiration, it is the Fallout series. While these games obviously don't depict real life apocalyptic scenarios, it got me thinking- simple things like repairing simple electronics would become an important commodity. Understanding basic chemical reactions, and other chemical and biological knowledge would be incredibly useful, in the short and long term. And of course, first aid and medical knowledge would make you utterly invaluable. These are the sort of things I'd enjoy seeing put here.

[Anonymous No.2845572]

/sci/ should make website all about knowledge useful for return from apocalypse to normal society.

anybody up to making a website and then getting shit together?

[Anonymous No.2845580]

>>2845572
This was actually what I was hoping. We see countless cases where simple knowledge like crop rotation can save a community. Obviously this knowledge wouldn't be accessibly in website format post-shitstorm, but hey, one person learning one small thing might just put us ahead a little bit.

[Anonymous No.2845583]

I heard that filtering water through soil can remove radiation from it. Is this bullshit or is there some truth to it?

[Anonymous No.2845584]

>>2845583
mostly bullshit

[Anonymous No.2845585]

>>2845569
The reason it's important to change bandages is because your skin will grow into them if you leave them on too long, and ripping them off will reopen the wound.

Medical saline solution (used for IVs for patients at risk for dehydration, as well as irrigating wounds and mucous membranes) is made by dissolving 9 grams NaCL in 1 liter water. Your body will absorb water with less salt, and saltier solutions will suck water out of your body. Useful for managing swelling.

If your glasses are broken, you can make a temporary substitute by poking small holes in a piece of paper and looking through them. This forces your eyes to focus and improves vision.

[Anonymous No.2845590]

>>2845585
If your glasses are broken, you can make a temporary substitute by poking small holes in a piece of paper and looking through them. This forces your eyes to focus and improves vision.

So nice

[Anonymous No.2845606]

I've got some stuff from info threads that might help.

Knowing what plants are edible can be vital.

[Anonymous No.2845607]

Gas masks are always useful.

[Anonymous No.2845611]

Solar water filter

[Anonymous No.2845619]

>>2845611
This is an interesting concept. I saw a variation of this in which the constructor's urine was purified into drinkable water in a short amount of time ( Man Vs. Wild). Very interesting, especially in places in which water will be difficult to come by/contaminated. Also, the comment on proper IV saline ratios could be very helpful in becoming a veritable wasteland doctor.

[Anonymous No.2845627]

Is there anything like a doctor-pedia, where they contain all manner of medical information? Such a thing would be invaluable to have on a hard drive.

[Anonymous No.2845633]

>>2845627
Exactly, tiny stuff can save lives when shit gets real. I'm especially interested in "jury-rigged" solutions to common medical problems, because we won't always have available antiseptics and penicillin and so on.

[Anonymous No.2845635]

This is not necessarily from an apocalyptic standpoint, but I think in terms of having to "start from scratch", this would work.

[Anonymous No.2845641]

>>2845635
This is very good. The way that I'd assess how valuable these types of things are in this context is to imagine that you were suddenly placed in a world that weathered an apocalypse some 100 years prior, and gave it to the leader of some village. How huge of an impact would it have?

[Anonymous No.2845645]

>>2845633
You can get penicillin by wiping a piece of moist bread on a windowsill and putting it in a shoebox in your closet for a few days. Penicillium, the mold from which penicillin is derived, looks like a bunch of black suckers. You can eat this safely, but I'm sure it'd taste horrible so you should mash it up and mix it with something more appetizing.

[Anonymous No.2845650]

How to make penicillin:

http://www.howtodothings.com/health-fitness/how-to-make-penicillin

[Anonymous No.2845655]

>>2845641
That village would become dominant in a short amount of time, if they were able to acquire the resources needed to build these things.

I have a large folder full of instructions on how to make everything from pipe-bombs to bullet traps. Do you want it?

[Anonymous No.2845659]

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Black-Powder

[Anonymous No.2845669]

>>2845655
Honestly, I'd like whatever anyone can post up here.

[Anonymous No.2845670]

>>2845655
Some of that stuff seems kind of less legit, like you'd be able to figure it out on your own without being told how.

[Anonymous No.2845682]

>>2845669
It begins. Most of these are brought to you courtesy of a dude from /k/.

[Anonymous No.2845683]

>>2845682
Hopefully I don't get v& for this. I'm not telling you to build them, just sharing knowledge.

I'm sure you can kill vermin with these things. You know, push them into gopher holes.

[Anonymous No.2845687]

>>2845683
The biggest problem with this is the spam block. I didn't want to put the whole folder on megaupload for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.2845691]

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[Anonymous No.2845692]

>>2845691
the science of weapons!

[Anonymous No.2845695]

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[Anonymous No.2845700]

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[Anonymous No.2845707]

>>2845702
These are in no particular order.

[Anonymous No.2845711]

>>2845707
I haven't built any of these myself and can't guarantee their efficacy, or their non-suicidal-ness

[Anonymous No.2845716]

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[Anonymous No.2845727]

>>2845707
A very impressive list! That being said, I don't think there would be as much fighting as is often depicted, at least not after the first few years of utter confusion. Still quite helpful to know how to win, when the need arises. Thank you kindly, Anonymous. Let's look for some more basic medical knowledge, as well.

[Anonymous No.2845728]

>>2845721
Last of the 4chan posts.

[Anonymous No.2845731]

http://thrivingintheapocalypse.wikia.com/wiki/Thriving_in_the_apocalypse_Wiki

[Anonymous No.2845736]

>>2845728
rat-bombs!

[Anonymous No.2845741]

>>2845736
Chloroform: For when you need to keep a dog quiet, or steal somebody's food supplies without killing them.

[Anonymous No.2845754]

>>2845741
Lol, that one's smoke grenades. THIS one's chloroform.

[Anonymous No.2845761]

>>2845754
part 1

[Anonymous No.2845757]

if it becomes a crisis i think anon can use it

[Anonymous No.2845766]

>>2845761
Part 2.

[Anonymous No.2845768]

>>2845766
all-purpose fuse.

[Anonymous No.2845771]

These sure are fancy chemicals for the apocalypse. What do we do 20, 30, 50 years afterward?

[Anonymous No.2845775]

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[Anonymous No.2845782]

>>2845771
You stockpile chemicals now is what you do.

[Anonymous No.2845784]

>>2845731
Winrar.

[Anonymous No.2845789]

That's all I've got.

Now you'll be that much smarter when society crumbles around you!

[Anonymous No.2845790]

>>2845782
That's no feasible.

[Anonymous No.2845795]

>>2845789
Haha, as it stands, from this thread, we've learned to destroy. What we must learn to do is to create and preserve, so that the entity we created and later preserved can become a strong force, and thus destroy more efficiently.

[Anonymous No.2845831]

Some medical knowledge in a compilation guide:
http://www.nlm.nih.. gov/pubs/factsheets/medline.html

[Anonymous No.2845898]

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