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O smart people of /sci/, I am in need of your help.
I am at my A-levels now and don't know wjhich course to do in the future because I ama an indecisive asshole.
I do Physics,Chemistry, Biology, and Further Math (not Azn), but I have no idea, where to go to get both a good job in the future and the ability to use all of that for good. I thought about Natural Sciences, Medicine (thank you House and Scrubs), Mechanical Engeneering, Biomedical Engeneering, Physics general and Nuclear Physics in particular. Can anyone tell from experience if they had this I-want-it-all choice?

>> No.2836814

Please forgive me if I am being a faggot here

>> No.2836819

Oh yeah and it's Engineering fuck me.

>> No.2836833

or should I rather go annoy people on /adv/ with that?

>> No.2836845

Engineering to make bank and live like a normal human being. Physical sciences to learn cool shit but die alone as a poor man.

>> No.2836846

bump

>> No.2836851

Just study hard for your SAT or ACT and ace it. Colleges look more at that then their grade.

>> No.2836859

Without knowing your grades, how can we advise.

Good on you for Further Maths

>> No.2836865

Oh shit. You're me (except European). I have no idea what to do, or rather I want to do everything. Don't be fucking stupid like me, I got so scared by the decision that I ended up not applying to any colleges and now I have a year doing fucking nothing -.-

>> No.2836866

>>2836851
Sadly, I'm not going to America, and I don't think I'll be able to prepare properly for both A-levels and SAT. I am trying to get into a Britain Uni.

>> No.2836868

>>2836851

Not in the UK. It's all grade based here!

>> No.2836869

Insider tip : there will be a HUGE surge of innovations driven by cold-plasma physics (bi-temperature gases).

I recommend a good emphasis on thermodynamics. Physics or Aeronautical engineering sounds the best to me.

>> No.2836886

>>2836869

cool plasma, best be trolling!

>> No.2836894

>>2836886

No I'm not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonthermal_plasma

>> No.2836895

Op still here, I think I could make it into medicine, gonna definitely always be in demand and paid, but I am afraid to look back later and think I spent 8 years of my life on the wrong area of science. And I'll flush my Math and physics knowledge down the pipe. Biomedical Engineering sounds cool, it has all the subjects, but fuck knows who I am going to be afterwards and whether I will have goot salary. Engineering is definitely great, but I doubt I will have free time for other research and subjects+no Biology/Chemistry

>> No.2836902

If you're afraid about getting a job, I suggest picking as many math electives as you can.

Investment banks recruit physicists for their "quant"(itative) departments. And it's 100 k starting (no joke).

>> No.2836913

Chemistry is often referred to as the central science.

It's a good choice as you'll learn a bit of everything, then can specialise later.

Chemistry can lead into almost any field. Whilst physics is the study of everything, it's more difficult to directly apply physics to many things, making it less flexible.

>> No.2836931

>>2836894
8/10 lol

>> No.2836940

I'm rather wondering which science course will still allow me not to miss all the awesome and astonishing knowledge from others and still will let me feed later. Or should I just follow the coolimage I got and real interest in the subject and go for Medicine no matter what?

>> No.2836942

>>AS levels

Underaged b& detected. Also don't be a queer, do physics or maths.

>> No.2836943

>>2836931

Not my fault you lack indepth knowledge about cold plasma.

Also, ever noticed someone get burnt to ashes touching a neon ?

Me neither.

>> No.2836950

>>2836895
>claim to be british
>implying you waste 8 years of your life doing medicine and not 5/6
Don't do medicine brah. ppl who do it just for grades fail badly

>> No.2836965

>>2836943
No power, tiny currents bro!

>> No.2836972

>>2836950
To be honest, I'm Russian studying in UK, and question to you then: even though the course is 5/6 years as you say, isn't it that you can't work as a doctor until you complete the 2 year training (i.e. more schooling and paying money?) Or can people go to labwork after 5 years?

>> No.2836984

>>2836972

You're Russian ? Does your name end in "ov" ?

If so, you MUST do physics or math.

Russian physicists can basically say to anyone "fuck your theory (dirty capitalist pig)" and the other will break down crying.

Russia has massive credibility in the physics department.

Just go Perelman on everybody.

>> No.2837002

>>2836984
Didn't work for Pavlov.
Was OK for Novosleov, however. hmmmm....
Nice to know people think about us like this, btw, thanks a bunch.

>> No.2837007

>>2837002

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgeny_Velikhov

I've been to many of his presentations. He would just go Russian mode if anyone tried to undermine his points.

It came to a point where even the French wouldn't open their mouths (in academia, this is considered impossible).

The fact that he doesn't have the Nobel (and probably will never have it) show the US bias in the Physics nobel attributions.

>> No.2837027

>>2836902


Not op but,

>100k starting

Are you shitting me?

>> No.2837028

>where to go to get both a good job in the future and the ability to use all of that for good.

Pick your 5 universities. The rankings can be found on the Guardian website. After you've done that, look into courses and how well the universities compete. Make sure you have an insurance choice if you mess it up.

After this is done, you'll get your grades and hopefully go to university. But if you want to make money from your science/engineering degree, the UK is the worst place to do it. Graduate wages in the UK are so incredibly low its unreal, especially for science graduates. Out of the subjects you named, medicine is the only one that will get you enough money to lead a comfortable life but pay back your debt.

It's not like the US where companies will chuck money at anyone with a degree. If you want that, move there. I don't recommend it. Regardless, you're going to need some practical experience so try and get on a course with a year in industry or defer your offer for a few years and do an apprenticeship in that field (if applicable)

tl;dr don't be expecting massive wages and easy work. Pick the course you are most interested in and make sure it's at a good of a university you can get into.

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2837033

I dream of extending the human life a couple of hundreds of years to see where all that goes, but there are several ways to do that, and they all are so friggin different and conflicting each other.

>> No.2837038

>>2837027

Yes, he's shitting you.

No one takes people without experience and slings 100 thousand pounds at them. They headhunt guys in their late 30s and give them that after years of work.

It might happen, in extremely rare circumstances - but they aren't advertised jobs you can just apply for. They come and pick you. If you're getting picked for that kind of work in your early 20s then you're wasted in a bank.

>> No.2837044

>>2837027
>>2837038

No I'm not. 100k is the standard start for a PhD in Physics (70k for lesser degrees).

Problem is, 100 hours a week under excel tends to damage people very badly. Only do this for a few years.

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2837050

>>2837044

>100k is the standard start for a PhD in Physics

Job listings. Post them.

>> No.2837053

>>2837038

Btw, I'm talking USD, not GBP, 100k USD = 60 K GBP

>> No.2837059

>>2837050

Goldman Sachs website.
Investment banking division.

Whichever job that requires 0-2 year of experience.

Every IB has a different name.

I'm surprised you people don't know of this;

>> No.2837069

>>2837007
Thanks for the link, never heard of the guy, to my shame. He has quite an interesting career path. And it seems what i thought about theoretical physicists being poor and lonely was totally wrong!

>> No.2837073

>>2837059

Can't find anything on their website that mentions giving graduates £100k a year starting.

>> No.2837076

biotech man, there are so many things you can do in biotech to safe the world.

engineer a new biofuel, increase crop yield, stop global warming

possibilities are fucking endless.

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2837129

Well, gotta go to sleep, thanks everyone for great info and good advice. Can post back some pictures that just always astonish me no matter how often I look at them.

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2837146

Just can't stop wondering how fast it works.

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2837156

And how we aquired precise and complicated organs like this through years of evolution just blows me away