/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2813983]

I have a question for or about USA.

What is wrong with USA and what will fix it?

[Anonymous No.2813994]

too many niggers. removing the niggers

[Anonymous No.2813996]

a) too much faggotry.
solution: less faggotry.
problem: people in charge enjoy the faggotry.
result: more faggotry.

[Anonymous No.2814002]

>>2813994
>>2813996
Yeah, removing the faggots and niggers.

By any standard, America is the greatest country on earth, the wealthiest, and we've accomplished the most in the shortest time. We landed on the motherfucking moon. Remove the niggers and we'll be perfect.

[Anonymous No.2814005]

>>2813994

1) Ghetto trash, like 2813983 kindly pointed out
2) The bigger problem that 2813983 didn't mention, since obviously he falls into the same category is redneck trash

Half of the US believes in the Bible and would vote a priest into office if given the opportunity. This group of people is uneducated, barbaric, decedents of slave owners.

The group of people is known as "the South" or sometimes just "Texas/Alaska" for short.

Education, time, and confrontation will probably be the only solution to dealing with these people.

[Anonymous No.2814011]

>>2814002

America is the continent the US is based on. I think the United States OF America is what you mean.

[Anonymous No.2814019]

-niggers
-wealth gap is enourmous
-congress is essentially legalized bribery
-people only care about themselves and getting rich
-Americans think theyre super smart and the best country on earth
-Weed is illegal
-Tax rates on individuals are too high and tax rates on corporations are too low..

I could go on and on.

TLDR US IS FUCKED

[Anonymous No.2814022]

>>2814011
I actually believe that continent is named "North America"

If you're going to nitpick and troll do it right.

[Anonymous No.2814047]

Here is everything that is wrong with America:

http://the-mound-of-sound.blogspot.com/2007/05/republicans-rednecks-and-racism.html

[Anonymous No.2814048]

Banks and the Fed

Congressional and Presidential elections are based on who can raise more money and lie more.

Mass media and their hidden agendas being so prevalent.

No major struggle or war for the past couple generations - think great depression and the World Wars and how the country rallied and recovered from them.

Falling research and development - there was a very interesting thread on automated production a couple days ago that would be very relevant to this.

Petrodollar warfare.

General trade skill level falling - this includes skilled trades normally outside a college education. It seems the general consensus today is you have to goto college or you'll end up a dirt farmer. This affects business' to, they will refuse to hire without college degree.

I could keep going....

[Anonymous No.2814276]

came across this video here the other day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAu4O8hOXX0#t=2m35s

this guy is fairly thorough, he lays down all the context in order to understand the economic problems.

[Anonymous No.2814283]

The economics and government. And all the subsets.

[Anonymous No.2814289]

>>2813994
good luck thar bro. the leader of your land is one.

[Anonymous No.2814316]

The government is heavily corrupt.
Most Americans think that something magical will happen and they'll be making $250,000 a year, so they oppose the creation of social services that require a lot of taxation (such as health care, paid higher education, etc.)

[Anonymous No.2814340]

It calls down to ignorance and unintelligent people. There is no way to fix it within the limitations of the current system.

The most feasible possibility to fix it is for the smartest people to create a new island nation. Then achieve dominance and take over the current United States. It's funny because I'm serious.

[Anonymous No.2814351]

>>2814340
that sounds like you want England to rule the United States sans smartest people.

[Anonymous No.2814355]

>>2814340
there is not nearly enough smart people in the us to take on the us

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814356]

We may have problems but we are the only hope in hell the moon is going to get colonized in the next 20 years.

Also if we go down so does most of man's technological progress.

[Anonymous No.2814361]

>>2814316
>The government is heavily corrupt.
>Want to give government greater control over social services, increasing the potential corruption.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2814366]

>>2814356

>We may have problems but we are the only hope in hell the moon is going to get colonized in the next 20 years.

Yeah, you'll get to the Moon once you convince Republicans that NASA stands for National Atheist Sterilization Agency.

[Anonymous No.2814370]

>>2814356

Another problem: The US is nationalistic as fuck.

I blame our high school education system.

[Anonymous No.2814371]

>>2814361
but if it stopped being corrupt then that wouldn't be a problem

also how do you guys think it would turn out if no congressmen political party or government official was allowed to receive money from any business

[Anonymous No.2814375]

How to fix America:

-export all Mexicans and Blacks
-After ANY political term, a 1/3 vote could lead to the representative's public execution
-Television is banned
-Advertisement is banned

America fixed

[Anonymous No.2814383]

>>2814366
That picture is stupid. Most republicans are against the public funding of science and technology. Luddism would be outright banning or destroying technology, not encouraging private sector growth of technology. Not to mention most people are anti-technology because of leftist perspective, i.e. machine take jobs from the working class. You can argue whether science should be public or private, but it's hardly Luddism.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814388]

>>2814005
>Half of the US believes in the Bible and would vote a priest into office if given the opportunity.
back in 2008 McCain not huckabee got the Republican nomination.
>Education, time, and confrontation will probably be the only solution to dealing with these people.
Our Higher education system is the best in the world!
We just need a better public schooling system
>>2814047
Looks like someone doesn't know their history

Democrats were the ones who where in control of the south during the Civil War
Republicans were the ones who issued the emancipation proclamation

Also Ones the the front runner for the Tea party is Hermen Cain(a black guy)
Not Sarah Palin
>>2814316
>Most Americans think that something magical will happen and they'll be making $250,000 a year, so they oppose the creation of social services that require a lot of taxation (such as health care, paid higher education, etc.)
I only support government health insurance because they are to incompetent to run it themselves
>Higher Education
Fuck No you are not getting at my Higher education system.
Give me a scholarship or Get the fuck away.

Im not going to let a bunch of retards control the best Education system in the world

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814398]

>>2814383
>Most republicans are against the public funding of science and technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Q8UvJ1wvk

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814402]

ITT:>We are not enough like Europe I want my state controlled economy and lower GDP per capita.

[Anonymous No.2814405]

I've been thinking, isn't it about time we thought about re-joining the British Empire?

[Anonymous No.2814407]

SERIOUSLY /sci/ are you still under the childish notion that a certain political party is going to be better than another?

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2814408]

>>2814388

>Also Ones the the front runner for the Tea party is Hermen Cain(a black guy)

Oh look, a token black guy and a token woman. Who would've guessed?

>Republicans were the ones who issued the emancipation proclamation

You do know people like Abe Lincoln would currently be democrats, right? Since there was some weird creepy total inversion of party roles, which actually happens often in other nations.

>I only support government health insurance because they are to incompetent to run it themselves

What about education? Should all of school and high school be privatized? And the police force, too? "derp those who can't afford cops service won't have anything worth stealing anyways"

[Anonymous No.2814410]

>>2814361
>I'm a retarded libertarian
>Everything is a bi polar spectrum
>It's not possible for a government to be not corrupt

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814412]

>>2814366
http://blog.al.com/space-news/2011/02/most_republicans_in_house_oppo.html

Fuck you Colonel Coffee mug

and it will be private companies that reach the moon before NASA

[Anonymous No.2814413]

How to fix America:
-Get rid of the War Powers Resolution of 1973.
-Make it so 2/3 of the population is required to vote yes to go to war.
-No UN resolution is more powerful than the constitution.
-End the federal reserve
-End corporate personhood and corporate lobbies
-Flat tax with no loopholes
-No corporate bailouts or privileges by the state.
-No legislation of morality by state, less individual and economic regulations.
-Encourage individualism and rationalism

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2814415]

>>2814398

Second highest-rated comment. Ten seconds in Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.2814418]

>>2814402

Europe seems to be a fairly good model. They rank the highest in just about every category including innovation and happiness.

And America obviously is super rich, but it's wealth is concentrated in so few people, and history proves it's better to have a smaller wealth gap (european nations have a much smaller gap)

[Anonymous No.2814422]

>>2814402
>I'm a libertarian
>Hooray for free markets!
>I'll be making six figures and won't have to change jobs every four years like all of the other Americans because I'm smarter than everyone else.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814425]

>>2814408
Stop assuming I want to privatise everything

Public education needs to be redesigned
Preferably like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM95HHI4gLk&feature=player_embedded

also
>And the police force, too?
>"derp those who can't afford cops service won't have anything worth stealing anyways"
Make a pretend argument and call me stupid for believing it

stay classy liberals

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2814428]

>>2814412

Find me any of those people who would not sell NASA to ATK like they have been doing since the Bush administration with the whole Constellation nonsensery. Just find any person in there who doesn't want to have NASA churn out HARP cannons day and night, Cannon Fodder-style.

Enjoy your perpetualized wars.

[Anonymous No.2814429]

America needs to change its culture. It's too individualistic. Everyone wants THEIR own home, car, etc.
>I can haz american dream?
We need to adopt the philosophy the rest of the world has: collectivism. Actions geared toward furtherance of the group, of society.
Individualism is all fun and games until you're suddenly not the sole superpower in the world.
I'm not saying communism, just a change in culture.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2814432]

>>2814425

This is the only time I have heard you propose an actually constructive redesign of a current system. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.2814440]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2814444]

>>2814388
>Im not going to let a bunch of retards control the best Education system in the world
>Im not going....best Education system
>Im....Education
>E
Best education system in the world!

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814445]

>>2814418
They have 200 million more people then the USA and make less then a trillion more.

Also our poor are not nearly as bad off as you think

[Anonymous No.2814452]

>>2814445
>then
Oh cool, I get to ignore you. I like ignoring retards; it's a hobby of mine.

[Anonymous No.2814454]

>>2814428
>Enjoy your perpetualized wars
Oh, look at Obama.
-Extended the PATRIOT ACT.
-Involved in Libya without a vote in Congress.
-Troops still in Afghanistan.
-Gitmo still open for business.
-Anti-war democrats are COMPLETELY SILENT.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814456]

>>2814429
>collectivism
FUCK YOU I WISH I COULD HATE YOU TO DEATH!!!!

YOU WILL HALT TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS TO FELL GOD ABOUT YOURSELF FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.2814462]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2814465]

vote ron paul you fuckin retards.

[Anonymous No.2814468]

>>2814465
Ah, hell no.

[Anonymous No.2814470]

>>2814456
>collectivism halts technological progress
you mean like in Japan? in Germany? in Russia?

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814471]

But really im not a republican

Our main problem is the polarization of this countries politics.

Its the liberals with their stupid fucking Ideas.
Its the conservatives with their stupid fucking ideas.

If you buy into party politics you are part of the problem.

if it were up to me I would ban political parties

[Anonymous No.2814476]

Industrialization.

Socialism.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814479]

>>2814470
Yes exactly like them

[Anonymous No.2814486]

>>2814471
what a great idea, ban political activists, put them in jail even or kill. Nothing can go wrong with that idea.

[Anonymous No.2814488]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY


FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.


FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2814492]

>>2814479
You're an idiot or a troll. Your picture is a result of collectivism. The greatest technological advances have been the results of research with public funding. Your picture is a great example.

[Anonymous No.2814499]

you know whats wrong with the US?
they put people like marc emery in jail.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814503]

>>2814476
Socialism would destroy this country.

We are not a small Scandinavian nation

[Anonymous No.2814506]

fascism and totalitarianism have been to way to success throughout history. eliminate individuality => eliminate poverty => create a great nation

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814509]

>>2814492
Yeah those spacecraft were built by corporations.

[Anonymous No.2814514]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2814516]

Not Science. I really wish Moot would make a politics boards to filter out these kinds of posts.

[Anonymous No.2814517]

Say no to fascism, kids

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814519]

>>2814486
No just say that you can't run for office and be a member of a political party.

People would advance Single ideas

Applying an ideology created over 100 years ago across the board is a fucking moronic idea.

Being all liberal or conservative is for fools

[Anonymous No.2814522]

>>2814445

200 million is not a lot more, and in the scope of countries, 1 trillion is also not a lot less.

Furthermore, I'm not ashamed to admit, I'm included under the poverty line and it's pretty bad. Obviously, people are gonna be like oh shut up pussy just think about africa, however it's kinda like apples and oranges. They have like no chance in ever doing anything worth anything, but being poor in america is like eating moldy bread behind the glass of the bakery's fresh cakes.

I'm not trying and don't plan on getting any sympathy, but I just wanted to let everyone know, or at least those who are willing to listen, that's incredibly aggravating and depressing to be poor in america.

Lastly, it's really not about money. It's about happiness.

All of this. All of this crap. It's an attempt to properly allocate one good. Happiness.

America will always fail because of it's mentality. It's a highly individualistic, zero-sum, dog-eat-dog mind set, and this will inevitably lead to the deferment of one's happiness for the sake of another's.

[Anonymous No.2814528]

>>2814509
With public funding. It would never have happened without the government taxing the collective public.
You're a moron.

[Anonymous No.2814536]

We need a new Age of Enlightenment to explore different forms of government.

[Anonymous No.2814537]

>>2814519
lets demolish the government, they are only leeches anyway. How freakin naive can you be?

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814542]

>>2814522
>200 million is not a lot more, and in the scope of countries
>is 40% of the EU's population
>is 65% of the USA's population

Im going to ignore you from now on

[Anonymous No.2814547]

>>2814522

Right on.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814548]

>>2814537
>thinks political parties are the government
You went Full retard

Im going to ignore you now

[Anonymous No.2814562]

>>2814471
Well that's a retarded idea, with little merit.
It won't stop bribery, corruption, etc.
Plus politicians disagree with their party all of the time. Just look at John McCain up until he ran for the Republican nomination.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814564]

>>2814522
>Poor
>Liberal

How am I not surprised

also you still have access to the internet

[Anonymous No.2814565]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2814566]

1) Capitalism, religion and the imperial measurement system.
2) Technocracy, zero tolerance for superstition.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.2814568]

>>2814562
>Thinks the Two party system works

[Anonymous No.2814583]

>>2814568
>thinks baning open political parties would change anything.
Nope.

[Anonymous No.2814588]

This is what is wrong with it now and is the source of many of problems.

[Anonymous No.2814589]

>>2814568
>Can't comprehend my comment.
>Doesn't understand how the two party system works.
>Can't articulate why his retarded idea of banning parties will make a difference at all.

[Anonymous No.2814602]

>>2814588
Yes, this. There's too many idiots in this country that think they'll get promoted into positions with six figure salaries and excellent retirement options. They max out their credit cards and take out loans against their home's equity only to realize ten years later that the promotion they were after is no longer there.

[Anonymous No.2814630]

>>2814588
That chart's misleading. It only asks what you would like it to be, which is very different from what they would force it to be. Simply asking, "Should everyone be equal?" is a pointless question. Equality of wealth sounds nice to almost everyone. The problem is, should the state force economic equality, which is what most people disagree with. Just because you don't like someone being rich doesn't give you or anyone the RIGHT to distribute wealth. What you want society to be like and what you think society should be forced to be like are two completely different things.

[Anonymous No.2814638]

The problem: Fascist system.
Solution: None (realistically, anyway).

Enjoy your "democracy", amerifats. (Meh, not like it's any better anywhere else).

[Anonymous No.2814645]

not this guy

[Anonymous No.2814648]

>>2814588

Then stop getting fat off of McDonald's and Walmart dumbshit!

Stop promoting military spending and tax cuts for oil companies!

You people (Republicans) are just a bunch of lazy ass holes.

[Anonymous No.2814654]

>>2814645

I'm voting for this nigga!

[Anonymous No.2814719]

Bless Israel; prosper
Curse Israel; be cursed

Compound interest time?
Compound interest time.

No can has.

America is great because America is good; if America should cease being good, America will no longer be great.
(apologies to Toq')

[Anonymous No.2814726]

>>2814645
Obama is a hypocritical warmonger.

[Anonymous No.2814753]

>>2814630
That's not the only way it's misleading.

It's based on a measure of "wealth" based on "net worth" or value of major properties minus value of debts.

Who is wealthier? The high-school dropout who went bankrupt last year, and now has a thousand bucks in the bank and a shitty used car but lost his job last week, or the talented young doctor who just got his medical license and a $400,000/year job, and signed the mortgage on a beautiful home?

According to this definition of "wealth", it's the drop-out, because if you sold all of the things the doctor owned, it would add up to less than his student loans. But who has more power to buy things? Who is enjoying the higher standard of living? Who is more secure in their ability to continue paying?

Yes, "wealth" is concentrated in the hands of the few, but genuine wealth is quite well distributed. That's why most commercial effort is bent toward selling to ordinary people. The top 20% may own 80% of the "wealth", but they don't come anywhere near getting to consume 80% of production.

A lot of those top 20% are simply ordinary people immediately before or after retirement, when home equity and retirement savings are at a peak, partly through a life not completely fucked up and partly through having recently inherited houses and such from dying parents who also did not completely fuck up their lives. Many of those same people were in the bottom 20% in their youths, and lots of them will hit the bottom 20% again before they die.

[Anonymous No.2815006]

>>2814753
Nigga u can't be srs.

Neither of your examples exist in the top 20. For fucks sake, owning your home (no debt/mortgage) alone isn't enough to place you in the top 20%, unless you have a million dollar home.

As for inheritance, best check yourself before you wreck yourself:
>Of the 8 percent who stand to inherit something, half will inherit less than $25,000, while just 1.7 percent of the population can expect to inherit more than $50,000.

If you think 50k in inheritance is going to place you in the 20%, you best be joking nigger.

So yeah, the measure of wealth is not nearly flawed as you say it is.

Also, to put the nail in the coffin (although this is entirely unsubstantiated, barring anecdote), I doubt there are many debt ridden doctors out there. Most people I know who are pursuing an MD are from upper middle class families. So I would say that while your example exposes a problem with the stats, it is an outlier, and therefore irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.2815013]

This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
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FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
FIX IT

[Anonymous No.2815031]

>>2815006
Are you even literate?

Because you sure as fuck didn't read and understand what I wrote before you replied to it.

[Anonymous No.2815047]

To answer OP's question, corporate and political power have become way too tightly interwoven. Big bags of corporate money dropping into the campaign coffers of politicians are now considered "free speech", while politicians line up corporate lobbying positions for themselves when they leave office. 30 years ago, many would have dared to call this corruption, but we've gotten slowly used to it and there are no shortage of apologists for it.

The solution is perhaps best expressed in the form of a poem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6OASOH_66A

[Anonymous No.2815079]

America is a pride based culture, it's constantly deluding itself with past victories and glory.

I mean how many times in this thread has the moon landing been mentioned? How about that Call of Duty Vietnam?

[Anonymous No.2815116]

Social security is what's wrong with America. No one knows what the fuck to do about it and no politician wants to talk about it because he'd get zero votes.

[Anonymous No.2815143]

nigs are annoying as fuck, but hardly responsible for any real problems besetting the country as a whole. This thread demonstrates one problem of scapegoating ignorant niggers, who can't really do anything, as the problems for an entire nation, the most powerful on earth.

[Anonymous No.2815142]

>>2815006
>As for inheritance, best check yourself before you wreck yourself:
>>Of the 8 percent who stand to inherit something, half will inherit less than $25,000, while just 1.7 percent of the population can expect to inherit more than $50,000.
That is an uncommonly pessimistic projection for the future (based on things like extrapolating rising health care costs) which doesn't bear on what I said at all. Up to now, the inheritance of the average person whose parents have died has been around $150,000 (i.e. about the value of an old house).

And you might be surprised at how little it takes to get yourself into the top 20% of "wealth". Few people are very careful with their money. Owning your house outright puts you in the top 40%. Add a car, a decent retirement fund, and a modest windfall investment, and you're well in the top 20%.

Also: most new doctors are in debt up to their eyeballs. Med school ain't cheap.

[Anonymous No.2815147]

>>2813983
>What is wrong with USA

Christians

>what will fix it?

Kill all the christians

\thread

[Anonymous No.2815171]

>>2814429
FUCK collectivism
why do i want to give my hard earned money to the fucking government?
they do nothing but give it to the bankers
i don't mind the idea that the money is more spread out among the people, but it never actually happens when the government is in control

[Anonymous No.2815176]

>>2814370
People keep blaming high school, I think sometimes teachers.. at least in NYC, at least at Jamaica High, in and outside of honors programs, every teacher were some of the best imaginable.

People are failing. KIDS are failing themselves and PARENTS are failing them as well. Teachers can't really do shit to "make" a kid learn, though I've seen them try so hard. If they could beat the shit out many kids like they deserve and like they oughta get from their parents, they'd get somewhere. But they are entitlist disrespectful morons.

[Anonymous No.2815192]

>>2815013
Thank you. I've gotten something from anon today. What will he ask of me...

captcha: Huffington nimize

[Anonymous No.2815214]

>>2815176
The school system is failing, I qualified as gifted and it was utter shit from my observations. Both material and method were shit.

[Anonymous No.2815247]

nothing. once the foreign brain power stops propping up American stupidity, there's no one but the jews left to pick the carcase. benbernanke.jpg

[Anonymous No.2815264]

I love it how people say they get nothing from the gov.

> Roads

>Public education

> firemen

>Police force

>Army

Government isn't the problem it's that you vote GOP Fucktards.

[Anonymous No.2815288]

>>2815264
>Roads are shitty engineering and need patched yearly as well as completely replaced every few years

>Pub Ed. is failing miserably, constantly demanding more money to fail harder with, and teachers unions still allowed to exist.

>Fire some places have privatized fire departments, if you don't pay up they let your house burn

>Police too busy arresting potheads to deal with real criminals

>Army second only to bureaucracy in terms of bloat and wastefulness. Literally billions of dollars bombing mudslimes in their sleep.

[Anonymous No.2815309]

1. Term limits on all positions. No one is allowed more than 20 years combined in political office. This will keep political ideas fresh while keeping the old farts from keeping their seats forever.

2. Ban privately funded political campaigns. A publicly funded "war chest" is evenly split between all candidates running for an office.

3. Put 25 times more money into government funded research. Pay the money to attract the most talented researchers from around the world.

4. Require all college grads who are not US citizens to work for 5 years in the US.

5. %100 tariff on all goods made in China.

6. Close all tax loopholes.

7. School is optional after 8th grade. Get rid of the people who don't care about an education.

8. Raise the standards for college admission. College is not for everyone. Ensure that only those who will make good use of a college education get a college education.

3-5 will ensure we will beat China while preventing a second cold war. The rest will reduce the class division to between those who care about education and those who do not care about education.

[Anonymous No.2815323]

>>2815309
Better to beat China than to have a good country then?

[Anonymous No.2815330]

we have to fix the ghettos IMO. too hard to get out, with all the drugs and violence.

[Anonymous No.2815347]

>>2815323
Having your own country owned by your own people is better than having your country owned by China.

20 years of intensive funding into R&D can solve many of the problems that currently plague the US. A resource based economy is only a few dozen science/tech breakthroughs away.

[Anonymous No.2815349]

>>2815309
i have to really disagree with 7-8. i fucked off in highschool and i'm going to be transfering to a 4 year university from a community college. It took me a while to realize what was important but i have and i plan to make the most of it. Chem. eng. here.

[Anonymous No.2815350]

>>2815288


>Drug war started by GOP

>Roads decay, everything decays has absolutely nothing to do with the government not functioning correctly

>Public education sucks because GOP keeps allocating the money for other things.. In Texas We have a 1billion $ education budget shortfall and Rick Perry wont plug the hole because that would mean increasing taxes.. And lets be honest the GOP dosn't care about public education to begin with

>War in Iraq/Afghanistan was started under Bush..

>Privatized fire departments happened in Tennessee because of a GOP sponsored bill

>Privatized anything happens because of the GOP.. They think it solves all problems boy are they wrong..

>Army waste, very true very true.. Only thing I wont argue about..

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2815352]

[Anonymous No.2815356]

>>2815347
Except that a resource based economy has nothing at all to do with 'being better than China'

[Anonymous No.2815359]

>>2814356
Actually, hes kinda on the right track.
We have a long history of making a good country by beating/feeling threatened by other countries.

also, non-science on /sci/ = post under sage.

[Anonymous No.2815366]

FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
This is what's wrong with america, europe and australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I
FIX THIS, FIX SOCIETY.

[Anonymous No.2815368]

>>2815356
When all of your people have a high standard of living compared to Chinese, it does matter.

Low standards of living + repressive government = potential revolution.

Look at what is happening in the middle east right now. If you can do the same thing to China then the US has just taken out its biggest enemy.

[Anonymous No.2815404]

>>2815368
Interesting. Please, why is China our enemy? Not even just that but our BIGGEST enemy?

A whole country of people trying to do whats good for them and you somehow extract that they are our biggest enemy. I think you need to wise up a bit and try again later.
China is not a threat to us.
We are a threat to them, and everyone else for that matter.
Or do you not see that most of the violence in the world since about 1945 has been helped along or directly caused by us.

That's what op was getting at. Why the fuck are we running around blowing up EVERYTHING?
We seriously need to shrink our military and bring everyone home. Then we can just chill for about 10 or 20 years and ask the world to forgive us for fucking with their shit.

Maybe then there can be some actual peace and progress.

[Anonymous No.2815426]

In all seriousness, minorities are the biggest problem in the US. Of course you will NEVER hear this on any mainstream source of media, no matter how conservative. No one wants to admit with fear of not being PC. Minorities statistically are poorer, have higher unemployment percentages, more children, higher illegitimacy rates, higher crime rates, higher welfare use, etc, etc. No matter what the left says (it's due to racism, ugh), minorities (especially immigrants) are a HUGE burden on a system based on taxation. The only solution is to put heavy restrictions on immigration, and send the niggers back to Africa....

[Anonymous No.2815424]

>>2815368
>China

>14-hour work slaves, just for our Nike Shoes and video games

>a "biggest enemy" to US

>FullRetard.jpg

[Anonymous No.2815427]

What's wrong with the USA?

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105

How to fix it? Read up on recent events in Tunisia and Egypt if you're in need of ideas.

[Anonymous No.2815428]

Politically? We need an unlimited vote system so third parties can get in. Corporations and lobby groups need to GTFO of government. Senators, presidents, and representatives need to stop being affected by money in any way. How to do this, I don't know. Somehow we need to take personal interest out of the equation

Economically? The government needs to get rid of Social Security (suck it up, baby boomers) so we can sustain the debt, and cut spending hardcore. Corporations need to be taxed less, individuals need to be taxed less (absurd wealth = absurd investment, in stock market or otherwise). Corporations are much more efficient than government is, so transferring wealth from the corporations to the government is retarded. A profiting corporation is a powerful tool.

Overall, the government needs to keep its hands out of anything that requires a significant amount of organization (Healthcare), and continue to throw money at private contractors for easy jobs (roads) that are organized at the private level.

People need to be more careful with their money. Jesus.

Socially? People are increasingly more unhappy as a result of the alienation of men as a whole from other men and from women. Divorce rates are at an all time high, so more men are single and are unmotivated; homophobia still runs rampant and close friendships with other men is frowned upon. A large portion of this trend could be attributed to modern feminism.

[Anonymous No.2815433]

>>2815428
Affirmative action needs to stop, immediately. We are beginning to de-value those with natural talents and abilities for those who merely fit a certain gender or ethnicity. Not to say that other ethnicities and genders don't have their geniuses, but making the talent pool smaller is certainly a mistake. Fuck you anyone who's going to call me out on being non-politically correct.

And my last point, political-correctness. It is one thing to stop the systematic social insults towards someone of a certain race, gender, disability, etc.. It is another thing to prop the previously disadvantaged up on a pedestal at the expense of everyone else. For race and gender, we must ignore the differences, and in job selection, college admissions, etc, we need to treat everyone as numbers, IE blind selection based on stats and accomplishments. No fucknig discriminating against white people, how can anyone possibly justify that?

I've also seen a trend in more restrictive terminology towards disabled people. "Not disabled people, people with disabilities". I'd much rather just call it how it is and accommodate for them. They seem to want to make us ignore that they have special needs. Soon they'll be wanting us to stop scoring better on tests than other people. Being gifted or talented is looked down upon in America. That shit needs to stop.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2815434]

http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2010/06/escape-from-america-the-grim-truth/

[Anonymous No.2815441]

>>2815426
I agree that minorities are a problem, but the root of that isn't that they are minorities. BLack people typically grow up in fatherless homes (feminism did this). And crime, suicide, drop-outs, drug use, is ALL statistically related to fatherless homes

[Anonymous No.2815449]

>>2815404
The people are nice. I know several chinese citizens who are working on PhD's in the US and they are generally good people.

Their government is another issue though. The US has exported a good portion of their manufacturing base to china because they are cheaper. When you buy anything in Walmart in the end you are benefiting the Chinese government the most.

China's rapid growth over the last 20 years is the product of US consumers buying cheap crap from china. Their government is trying to maximize the amount that china makes off of trade with the US. Any foreign company that works in China needs a Chinese partner that owns at least %51 of the operations in China.

Taking from our economy to benefit their own makes them an enemy in my book.

[Anonymous No.2815454]

>>2815428
>>2815428
Taxing everyone less is not going to get you out of debt.

You can destroy all your social programs, you can gut your military, you are still not going to get out of debt unless you increase taxes.

Sorry, but you Americans need to face reality. Things do not magically pay for themselves. You need to pay for them. Through taxes.

[Anonymous No.2815468]

>>2815441
Why did feminism cause it? (Legitimately curious)
In any case, they are still to blame for fatherless homes. There is nothing whitey can do to stop that. The black community has to solve that on their own.

[Anonymous No.2815469]

>>2815454
Obviously. But if things keep up the way they are, there will be nothing left to tax. Once things start looking up again people need to be taxed more, but corporations need to be left alone for the most part. Probably should have mentioned that, had a lot to get to in that post

[Anonymous No.2815479]

I saw this in a LegoRobot comic once but I can't remember which one, it's a very simple method for solving all of the United States' domestic problems.

1. Take a fuckload of grenades and paint them to look like Easter eggs
2. Nail one down to every sidewalk step in every neighborhood in the country
3. All the stupid people will kill themselves by pulling the pin
4. The country gets better almost over night

[Anonymous No.2815491]

>>2815479
How about

1. Take a fuckload of grenades and paint them to look like Easter eggs
2. Nail one down to every sidewalk step in every neighborhood in the country
3. You die nailing grenade pins into the fucking sidewalk like a fucking idiot.
4. The country gets better almost over night

[Anonymous No.2815508]

>>2815441
Feminism did this two ways:

First, feminism upped the divorce rate. This occurred because repeated praising of femininity and demonizing of masculinity led women to believe they were entitled to a man who, because of social conditioning, doesn't exist. Feminism fought tooth and nail for the no fault divorce clause, and for women to still be eligible for alimony during a no-fault divorce, so women who didn't have a job during the marriage are entitled to half the man's money (even if she cheated and filed the divorce under 'no-fault').

Second, the court systems are stupidly, blatantly biased towards the women in custody court. For no reason really, since fathers are statistically more influential in a child's life.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2815509]

>>2815479

[Anonymous No.2815552]

>>2815509
Ugh, what a liberal comic. It was actually funny until I saw that last part. "Obama leads polls". Liberal arrogance is what that is called. They actually think they are smarter than conservatives. How about one of tv lines being "Yet another radio host fired for "racist" remarks." "Religious affirmative action now law", "whites now make up only 30% of population"

[Anonymous No.2815630]

>>2815434
I want to move to Canada when I get the money, I've wanted to for a few years now.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2815640]

>>2815552
>"Obama leads polls". Liberal arrogance is what that is called.
They are both shit parties. Democrats is just very slightly less shit because of not as much christian fundamentalism.

[Anonymous No.2815658]

>>2815630
Me too

What do I need to know about being an expat?

[Anonymous No.2816064]

>>2814005
>This group of people is uneducated, barbaric, decedents of slave owners.

lol this sentence

[Anonymous No.2816219]

>>2815640
This


Plus this picture.

Also Fun fact of the day, I'm sure you have seen all the pictures of how fucked up parts of japan are and how they estimate it will cost over 200 billion dollars to fix.

The bank were bailed out for over 700 billion dollars, although you cant see it(yet), the destruction the united states is undergoing is truly massive. State controlled capitalism FTL. Add in a 14 TRILLION dollar debt, massive tax cuts for everyone (especially the rich and corporation)

Plus they have started a pattern of socializing the massive collapses, getting the people to pay for them, so that the bankers get to keep their record profits

If the system was actually free market, they would lose their money when they fuck up big, not get the people to pay for it. Insanity

I'm going to be shocked if the second great depression doesnt occur within 5 years.

[Anonymous No.2816241]

>>2816219
economic 9/11 = summer/fall 2012

just in time for the "election"

[Anonymous No.2816314]

>>2815552
You're right, liberals aren't necessarily smarter than conservatives.

Conservatives can easily be split up into two groups: smart crooks and retarded religionfags. The smart crooks keep themselves rich and promise the retards that they'll vote for "good Christian values" or whatever dominant religion is dominant in return for votes. The retards think that it's more important to control who people are allowed to marry than to fix a massive disparity in wealth distribution, so they vote for conservacunts.

[Anonymous No.2816333]

>>2816314
same is true of liberals, except the two groups are smart crooks are retarded urbanpoorfags

[Anonymous No.2816525]

If everyone would listen to black metal and dress like sinister black metallers, entire world would be better place.

[Anonymous No.2816559]

I understand government-run economy seems like a bad idea, but I still think we need to have some form of free healthcare. People who live off of minimum wage have such a difficult time....Even walking into the door of a doctor can cost hundreds of dollars, even if he doesn't treat you. That is bullshit. And don't say medicaid, tons of minimum wage workers make too much to apply...so they're suck.

People who live in ghettos and stuff, I think they need SOME form of help....because they won't get out on their own, and corporations certainly won't do shit.

[Anonymous No.2816573]

Do women still get paid less than men for doing the same work? I hear that all the time.

[Anonymous No.2816575]

Girls are majorly outperforming boys in grade school. Sounds like a problem to me,

[Anonymous No.2816616]

people may be getting too comfortable

it would be fixed by destroying far more of the production surplus through military action, it has been a little slow of late. also plan future institutions of federal rations for arbitrary conveniences such as razors or sugar, with a general uptick in the media's subtle societal fear-inducers.

give it time, we are dedicated to keep things exactly the way they are. don't forget, we're number 1!

[Anonymous No.2816640]

>>2816559

Minimum wage isn't meant to be lived on.
It's meant to be supplemental income for uneducated members of families, or as pocket money for teenagers.

[Anonymous No.2816650]

>>2816640

To add: If you want to do something about medical costs, look at insurance, not treatment and care. Treat the problem, not the symptons.