Can I come here for psychology threads?

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OP Thu Mar 31 10:01:06 2011 No.2807282 [Reply] [Original]

Can I come here for psychology threads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:06:06 2011 No.2807299 Yes, OP. Psychology is science. Welcome and enjoy your stay.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:07:06 2011 No.2807312

You can come here for whatever you want.
Homework, religion, magnets, heck, even child pornography.

Since /sci/ has no mods it's not like we can do anything about it.

If you're asking whether or not psychology is ontopic here, then the answer is: no.

Psychology doesn't make falsifiable claims and thus not related to a science/math board.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 10:09:06 2011 No.2807316 >>2807312 yes falsifiable you are the perfect person. What does everyone think of frueds psychoanalysis, especially people from a scientific background. i'm doing a paper on him and i want evaluations from both sides of the board

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:10:06 2011 No.2807318 >>2807312 > Psychology is the science of mind and behavior Learn to respect other fields, dumbass.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 10:12:06 2011 No.2807322 Okay chillax, psychology can be a touchy subject for some. I am trying my best to be rational about it. yes, there are few topics which are biologically proven, but that is what is so fantastic about it. it's all uncertain, anything is possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:14:06 2011 No.2807330 >>2807318 0/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:15:06 2011 No.2807339 >>2807330 -9 / <span class="math">10^{10^{1843873 !}} ![/spoiler]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:19:06 2011 No.2807355 >>2807312 >Psychology doesn't make falsifiable claims Prove it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:20:06 2011 No.2807359 >>2807339 you're doing it wrong. its like this: -0/9000

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 10:20:06 2011 No.2807361 >>2807355 lol psychology humour is the best :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:20:06 2011 No.2807363 >>2807312 This board is for SCIENCES and mathematics. Social sciences such as sociology are encouraged as well as Psychology. To name a few fields.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 10:34:06 2011 No.2807384

>>2807316
Freud is one of the reasons that /sci/ doesn't know a damn thing about the field. Freud is probably the only known psychologist to the masses. Because of that, everyone thinks that the field is still stuck in the psychodynamic perspective, which is not really falsifiable as it has to so with the unconscious. Tests like the Rorscach and TAT claim to measure aspects of the unconscious, but studies on them are inconclusive. We have more evidence-based perspectives now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:18:06 2011 No.2807544 >>2807384 >Freud is probably the only known psychologist to the masses What about Carl Jung?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:19:06 2011 No.2807549 >psychology >he thinks it's a science

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:20:06 2011 No.2807554 >>2807549 >he thinks it's not

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:21:06 2011 No.2807558 >/sci/ - Science & Math >psychology >not a science or math No

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:22:06 2011 No.2807559

I dunno what is up everyone's ass about psychology. The first thing I learned in Psychology 2 (took it for general education credit) was what science is: making falsifiable claims. Then the teacher said we would not be discussing Freud and the class would focus on actual modern psychology, mostly experiment-based. You're a bunch of faggots who have no idea what psychology is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:22:10 2011 No.2807561 >>2807559 sure is samefag in here

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:25:07 2011 No.2807569 >>2807282 itt butthurt psychology major(s)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:29:06 2011 No.2807579 >>2807559 >the class would focus on actual modern psychology, mostly experiment-based. ie. psychiatry (psychology with Thorazine)

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:36:06 2011 No.2807600

>>2807579

As far as I know psychiatrists don't know shit about psychology, because they don't have the same quality education for the work as a psychology.

A professor thought us about the frustration (I've only takens two courses) over the fact that people think that just because you've a medical education, that you're qualified for saying things about the brain. Even worse is that most psychiatrists are of the Freudian schools, which means that their patients will talk about their moms and then get pills for it. And it's even worse in legal cases, I've seen some cruel things that psychiatric have written since we've been given out examples to study, on how some so-called psychologists work.

It's a fucking horror experience when you read about someone who separated a five-years old from their parents just because their Freudian theories justifies them into believing the kid is abused.

They wouldn't be able to do proper case studies for shit. You know the people making sure everyone has ADHD and are aspies these days? That ain't the psychs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:39:06 2011 No.2807606 /sci/ are a bunch of not only hypocrites, but fucking stupid ones. Somehow psychology isn't a science, but everyone is taking their INTJ webbased test result like it's the shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:39:06 2011 No.2807607 Psychology is a social/soft science. /sci/ tends to like the natural sciences (physics, chemistry, astronomy, biology, &c) and math.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:40:06 2011 No.2807609 >>2807600 Psychiatry used to perform horrible things like electroshock therapy (which drove Ernest Hemingway to suicide)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:40:06 2011 No.2807610 >>2807607 That's because they believe only girls attend soft sciences. And /sci/ have a hatred for girls.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 11:41:06 2011 No.2807617 Just for the record, psychology has been officially classified as a science... by scientists

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:42:06 2011 No.2807618 Psychology is just an anachronism. Psychology departments should just be swallowed up by neuroscience and biology departments. It's those fields that will make progress in understanding brains. A psychology background is useless for that goal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:43:06 2011 No.2807622 >>2807609 >psychiatry >horrible scientologist detected

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 11:43:06 2011 No.2807623 Biology will never EVER learn about the unconscious. or why we think. how we think. some things cannot be seen, doesn't mean they arent there

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:44:06 2011 No.2807626 >>2807623 >biology will never learn about the unconscious >implying the unconscious is not physical (metaphysical) >implying the metaphysical exists >this is why we don't like psychology gtfo my /sci/, mystic fuck

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:47:06 2011 No.2807638

>>2807618
>>2807618

Psychology is just to broad. What about the cultural aspects, and social psychology? And neuroscience is part of psychology anyway, so whatever.

That aside, the idea of reducing psychology to just biology of the brain, didn't that die out like 40 years ago? I believed everyone was functionalists by now. And if you accept a functionalist theory of the mind, biology isn't really needed to explain the mind. That's why we have computer scientists trying to make minds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:48:06 2011 No.2807643 >>2807622 > I've not read real case studies or legal papers about the subject Sure is lacking justified opinion in here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:49:06 2011 No.2807644 >>2807638 op detected

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:49:06 2011 No.2807645

Neuroscience may have some validity, but it's largely used as an excuse by pharmaceutical companies to peddle drugs. It basically teaches that we're just molecules with no soul and that all our emotions are chemical reactions that should be suppressed with a drug.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:49:06 2011 No.2807647 >>2807626 >implying the metaphysical exists Stop using words you don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:50:06 2011 No.2807650 Welcome, Troll OP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:50:06 2011 No.2807651 File: 25 KB, 369x457, laughingwhores2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2807645 >he thinks there's such a thing as a soul >laughingwhores.jpg do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:50:06 2011 No.2807652 >>2807644 You're not also saging a science related thread, you're wrong. :/

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:51:06 2011 No.2807654 >>2807651 Not trying to turn this into a religion debate, and I never mentioned the G-word. Unless I did, your argument has no validity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:53:06 2011 No.2807659 File: 23 KB, 377x480, obvious.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT Aspies giving undergraduate and highschool level opinions of subjects they're not even in. >Also known as : [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:53:06 2011 No.2807662 >>2807654 Direct quote: >>[Neuroscience] basically teaches that we're just molecules with no soul and that all our emotions are chemical reactions that should be suppressed with a drug. ...and the problem is? >you don't have a soul >dealwithit.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:53:06 2011 No.2807663 >>2807651 Never believed in the TF. Why do you ask?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:54:06 2011 No.2807667 >>2807663 then why do you believe in a soul?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:56:06 2011 No.2807674 >>2807662 Well, I think some people don't have souls. Like Hitler and whatnot. Partial credit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:58:06 2011 No.2807680 >>2807654 >never mentioned G-word We don't believe in a soul either. It's religious bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:58:06 2011 No.2807682 >>2807667 A couple reasons, one of them being to troll the James Randi brigade, of which I can see that we have a few in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 11:59:06 2011 No.2807684 >>2807674 and by some you mean all of them right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:02:06 2011 No.2807694 See >>2807645 If you believe we're just molecules with no soul, then various unscrupulous people can abuse drugs and/or psychiatry as an instrument of control, as they did in the Soviet Union where dissidents were put in mental hospitals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:02:06 2011 No.2807697 >>2807680 Who is this "we" you speak of? You and James Randi?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:04:06 2011 No.2807699 File: 10 KB, 250x250, kramerreaction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2807694 >you ACTUALLY believe in a soul >mfw anyone can be this dumb

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:06:06 2011 No.2807704 >>2807694 what someone believes does not affect what the reality of a situation is. I'm not seeing your point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:07:06 2011 No.2807709 Psychology is a science. You would be surprised how easily you fall into definable categories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases I defy you to deny all of these biases

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:08:06 2011 No.2807713

>>2807680

Again not to turn this into a religion debate since those never end well, but I've observed that atheism is the only major religion that teaches that there isn't a soul. Which strikes me as kind of weird, since it's ostensibly only about non-belief in a god.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:09:06 2011 No.2807723 >>2807713 Atheism is a religion as much as not collecting stamps is a hobby

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:10:06 2011 No.2807727 >>2807713 Believing in a soul is making the same logical leap as believing in a god.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:10:06 2011 No.2807728 >>2807651 sould could = mind

OP Thu Mar 31 12:11:06 2011 No.2807731

Ok so, if the biological explanation of the 'abnormality' depression is reduced levels of serotonin, surely increasing serotonin will help the symptoms, correct? But, that does not get rid of the psychological problem causing the depression in the first place. and what if depression itself causes reduced levels of serotonin, surely that suggests that it is a purely psychological illness, thus telling the biological theory to fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:11:06 2011 No.2807734 >>2807723 I'm just saying that whenever you hear someone argue that there isn't a soul, they're invariably always atheists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:11:06 2011 No.2807735 >>2807713 Not true. Atheists also don't believe in unicorns, the tooth fairy, santa clause, or flying spaghetti monsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:12:06 2011 No.2807741 I would put atheism and christianity in the same category, when looking from a eastern point of view. One belives there is no god, the other believes there is a god. You are all believers here faggots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:13:06 2011 No.2807743 >>2807727 Incorrect. Usually deities are assumed to have the power to create the universe, perform miracles, judge you, and whatnot. That would not apply here. Note that I never once stated my religious beliefs in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:13:06 2011 No.2807745 >>2807731 That just means we don't fully understand the physical phenomena taking place, not that your mind is controlled by magic.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:13:06 2011 No.2807750

>>2807728
but that's an entirely diffeent definition than the implicit one for "soul." basically what you're doing is redefining a metaphysical concept to mean a physical one, just so you could reconcile scientific thought with religious thought which you seem to find comfortable

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:14:06 2011 No.2807757 This thread is why I hate human beings. Not just dumb people; human beings as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:14:06 2011 No.2807759 >>2807735 However, those are assumed to be physical entities and not metaphysical.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 12:15:06 2011 No.2807760 >>2807745 ofc the mind isnt controlled by magic thats rediculous, but do you not think that on some level, there is a completely unconscious force at work in our minds? making us think certain things and what not?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:15:06 2011 No.2807761 >>2807731 But the reduced levels of secretion would be caused by another biological occurring. Saying psychology can occur without biology is like saying chemistry can happen independent of physics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:15:06 2011 No.2807763 Ergonomist/cognitivist reporting !

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 12:16:06 2011 No.2807766 >>2807757 why do you hate humans?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:16:06 2011 No.2807769 >>2807763 I was hoping to come across one. What's the proper way to use a keyboard for extended periods of time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:16:06 2011 No.2807771 >>2807743 But what proof do you have for a soul? Believing in a soul because you don't understand human existence is pretty similar to believing in a god of the gaps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:17:06 2011 No.2807776 >>2807760 yes. Its called physics and chemistry.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 12:17:06 2011 No.2807779 >>2807761 yes that's fantastic! I just wish others could see that. There is no certain biological explanation, nor is there certain psychological explanation. Can I just say, you guys are gonna get me some great marks on my paper

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:18:06 2011 No.2807780

>>2807760
Recent studies show conscious thought AKA decision making happens seconds after the brain has decided a course of action.

Thought seems to only exists as a post action analysis of events to refine and categorise them.

Basically you are just thinking about things the subconscious has already done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:18:06 2011 No.2807786 >>2807771 Basically because chemical reactions appear to only account for things like memory and cognitive ability (hence they can be affected by drugs and/or brain damaged). One's personality and subconscious are not affected by those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:20:06 2011 No.2807795 >>2807786 Again, why does that lead you to just imagine an explanation? Just because we haven't found all the answers yet doesn't entitle you to just make stuff up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:20:06 2011 No.2807796 >>2807786 They are affected by millions of connections of neurons in the brain. Sorry if we cant explain how that (personality and subconcious) happens exactly happens yet,

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:22:06 2011 No.2807809 /sci/ is as close minded as it comes, as soon as someone mentions something that cannot be measured or weighted whole place goes apeshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:23:06 2011 No.2807817 >>2807796 Maybe not, but as I said, one's personality remains the same regardless of damage to the brain. Remember that your ideas are just as much subjective theories with no evidence as mine, so you do not have the moral high ground here.

>>	OP Thu Mar 31 12:25:06 2011 No.2807823 >>2807817 actually no, damage to the frontal part of the brain causes MASSIVE personality changes

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:25:06 2011 No.2807825

Hello /sci/, today I would like to present to you some interesting information that I have gathered regarding ATHEISTS and THE AFTERLIFE. (I put them in caps to attract attention.)

For a few months now I have been studying many Near Death Experiences (NDE's for short). These experiences take place when an individual is dead (the heart stops beating, the brain ceases to receive oxygenated blood, biological functions stop). This state can only last for about 5 minutes before brain cells start to die and the individual becomes unsalvageable.

There are many things I have learned, but to keep thing short I will reduce it down to the most important thing thats on everyones minds: who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?

A basic trend found in all experiences is that God does not care what religion a person is in, an atheist can go to heaven and a christian can go to hell. It's a matter of the vibrational frequency of your soul (see quantum physics). theres a lot to explain here but I must move on as to keep this from not turning into a wall of text.

In addition, no one is condemned to any kind of hell, we choose a heaven or hell based on the emotional frequencies we entertain while alive. We also are not condemned to any heaven or hell for eternity; we can change our frequencies in the afterlife just like can change them here on earth. All one requires to enter a certain heaven is a change of heart, and the will power to WANT to change.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:25:06 2011 No.2807829

>>2807817
>Maybe not, but as I said, one's personality remains the same regardless of damage to the brain
Bullshit. My friends dad was in a car crash and was never the same since. He was constantly abrasive and depressed even 2 years after the accident until he killed himself.

This is just personal experience but I can say that one common symptom of brain damage is personality change.

Stop pretending you have studied psycology

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:28:06 2011 No.2807842 File: 38 KB, 400x388, 1280801233573.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >psychology student >believes in souls

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:28:06 2011 No.2807843

Continued...

The concepts of the afterlife is not a matter of magic, but a matter of extended science that is beyond our grasp (as of now). The big bang still did occur, but there is a plethora of other aspects about the big bang that we have yet to discover. There is much more to the origin of the universe that meets the eye, that all ties in with our consciousness.

There are many other things that I have learned here, but I figure this is the aspect that most people are interested in. The greatest thing that I love about all these discoveries is that I no longer have to worry about atheists. You can believe, or not believe, whatever you please. Atheism is a victimless crime that warrants no punishment, so you can go on in your life with the comforting knowledge that even if you are wrong about your non-belief in a God, it doesn't matter anyway because it won't affect you in the long run. So go ahead take a dump on everything I have said and call me retarded, I don't have to care any more because of these findings, I only wish to share this with people so that those who do believe can let their hearts rest easy knowing that there aren't billions of people burning in some kind of horrible hell because they didn't believe the right religion... No one has, and ever will, have a monopoly on God...

tl;dr Atheism =/= hell forever

Thank you for reading.

P.S.
If you have any questions you would like to ask me, feel free and I will try to explain what I can. Criticism and skepticism is fine and to be expected, but please keep the questions rather modest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:30:06 2011 No.2807855 >>2807829 Subjective. That's like saying you didn't have the same personality when you were six years old that you do know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:31:06 2011 No.2807859 >>2807855 thats 20 years of change vs 24 hours in a coma

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:32:06 2011 No.2807866 >>2807843 lol just lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:33:06 2011 No.2807872 >>2807859 Same principle. Your brain wasn't fully developed as a small child. I can also say with certainty that I had the same essential personality at six that I have today.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:34:06 2011 No.2807875
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The problem people have with psychology is that it psych used to be exactly what people accuse it of.

Until the 1980's, psychology was dominated by cultural determinists who bought into anti-scientific ideologies and made prescriptive declarations of how society 'should' be, and how people 'ought to' behave. But the invention of Cognitive Science in the late 60's led to psychologists working side-by-side with neuroscientists and anthropologists for the first time, and the deficiencies in psychology as a science were made painfully obvious. From this, a whole new generation of psych graduates who got their phd's assisting in cogsci projects who naturally brought their interdisciplinary insights to bare their own field. This led to a renaissance in psych throughout the 80's, culminating in the new discipline of Evolutionary Psych in the early 90's ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adapted_Mind ). No-one familiar with modern psych could doubt that it is a science (now).

So while I understand why people generally have such a poor view of psych, I assert that it is an outdated one. But I guess this is the kind of thing that takes time to filter thru to the general memepool, and as more and more evo psych research is done, and more and more of it is popularized, I expect it will fix itself soon enough.

Also sage for shitty religitard trolling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:35:06 2011 No.2807877 >>2807809 Exactly. See >>2807866. Guy dismissed that post without even reading it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:35:06 2011 No.2807880 >>2807855 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage Seriously now, this has been known for at least a century. Troll harder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:36:06 2011 No.2807884 >>2807875 >Also sage for shitty religitard trolling. I've explicitly tried to avoid a religion discussion in here, but the moment the word "soul" is mentioned, the Randi kool-aid drinkers go nuts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:37:06 2011 No.2807891 >>2807880 Well yeah, he suffered brain damage. In those cases, you're externally reduced to the mental level of a small child, but your subconscious remains the same.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:39:06 2011 No.2807898 >>2807884 That's because /x/ is that way <----------

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:40:06 2011 No.2807905 >>2807891 0/10 Sorry, I simply don't believe you believe what you claim to believe.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:42:06 2011 No.2807917

>>2807898

Proving your extreme close-mindedness. If everyone thought like you, we'd still be using stone tools because anyone who claimed to have discovered metallurgy would be dismissed as a crank. "Ah, bullshit. You claim you can make a better hunting knife? Impossible. There's no evidence that that's possible or your magic 'metal' exists."

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:45:06 2011 No.2807943

>>2807917

Proving that a soul is an untestable hypothesis, and therefore not science. I suggest /x/ because they often have parapsychology threads, and although many of them are retarded almost beyond imagination, /x/ does actually have a healthy population of skeptics and anti-paranormal trolls to keep discussion lively.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:45:06 2011 No.2807945 >>2807917 But you can use a metal knife. You cant use a magic spell to cut an animals hide.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:49:06 2011 No.2807963 [DELETED]

>>2807943
>untestable hypothesis, and therefore not science.
I'm a hardcore /sci/entist and septic and you are entirely wrong

Astronomy, geology, paleontology, epidemiology, and much of the social sciences CAN not use testable hypothesis and are still sciences.

Eat a dick you.

The soul still has no evidence though...

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 12:51:06 2011 No.2807974

>>2807943
>untestable hypothesis, and therefore not science.
I'm a hardcore /sci/entist and skeptic and you are entirely wrong

Astronomy, geology, paleontology, epidemiology, and much of the social sciences CAN not use testable hypothesis and are still sciences.

Eat a dick you.

The soul still has no evidence though...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 13:13:06 2011 No.2808074 >>2807963 >The soul still has no evidence though... There are not enough /facepalms in all the internets for you my friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 13:20:06 2011 No.2808101 >>2808074 show me evidence of the soul and I will redact my statement.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 14:25:06 2011 No.2808337
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>>2808101

Let's summarize, shall we? You claimed there was a soul. I pointed out a soul is not a testable hypothesis, which makes it at best parapsychology and at worst simple bullshit, in either case it belongs in /x/. You reply by pointing out that a bunch of COMPLETELY UNRELATED SHIT /is/ testable, tell me to eat a dick and simultaneously agreed with my initial point.

You, sir, are possibly the stupidest person on /sci/.

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