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[FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs No.2782195]

ANTI-NUCLEAR POWER THREAD

the tragedy in japan just showed again that we should turn off all nuclear power plants already and invest in renewable energy, instead. i'd rather not have children grow up in a world full of mutants

[Anonymous No.2782201]

I'd rather not have children grow up in a world 90% covered in solar panels just to power one country.

[Anonymous No.2782197]

0/10

[FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs No.2782213]

>>2782197

Looks the shills are at it again. What's the matter? Facts don't fit with your agenda?

>>2782201

>this post brought to you by Koch industry

[FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs No.2782224]

I find it amazing that there are still defenders of nuclear energy in the United States. These people claim that a Japanese style incident could never happen here. Who are you going to believe? These charlatans, or your lying eyes?

[rec & play !!lz9pGsOAX6N No.2782229]

>>2782201
Although I support nuclear, you could power the whole world's electricity demand with about 4% of the Sahara, we just need to develop better storage for night time.

[Anonymous No.2782230]

>>278219

In the mean time between transportation accidents, and pollution, thousands upon thousands die every year and many more are diagnosed with diseases and cancers related to fossil fuel pollution.

[rec & play !!lz9pGsOAX6N No.2782238]

>>2782213
What's the e in TWe? Also does that mean 18TW at all times of day, or when everywhere is at maximum (which would never occur).

[Anonymous No.2782239]

>Stop using nuclear
>Use coal instead
>Don't understand that coal releases way more radiation than nuclear

[Anonymous No.2782242]

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/deaths-per-twh-by-energy-source.html

[Anonymous No.2782247]

>>2782238
e=electricity, the thermal power is much higher but it's the electricity output that matters.

[Anonymous No.2782248]

>>>/g/16661916

[Anonymous No.2782249]

>>2782229

you are a massive faggot, jsut wanted to let you know

[Anonymous No.2782267]

SOLAR PANELS WILL KILL US ALL WHEN MILITARY FITS THEM INTO DEATHBOTS
NOT TO MENTION THAT ANY FUCK CAN COMBINE THEM WITH A WEBCAM, 1W LASER, AND EYE DETERCTION SOFTWARE, HIDE IT INTO A BUSH AND BLIND DOZENS
WE MUST BEGIN IMMEDIATE ACTION TO STOP PROLIFIRATION

[Anonymous No.2782309]

I'm pro solar. But solar power is not advanced enough or even safe enough to be considered for commercial use. Also i live in a country where 80% of the time the sun is blocked by clouds. And 60% of the time the earth is covered by snow.

[Anonymous No.2782344]

I'd rather not have my children grow up in this world, that's why I won't have them.

[Anonymous No.2782354]

TTTTTROLLL THREAD

for a board that usually claims to be too intelligent for social science you guys really fail at noticing this obvious shit

[Anonymous No.2782364]

can i haz a moral panic too!?!

[Anonymous No.2782419]

>>2782364

Not yet, Timmy, first finish your dinner.

[Anonymous No.2782436]

>>2782354
Come off it. No one takes Faggatron seriously. He's just doing his shtick.

[Anonymous No.2782456]

>>2782195

It's a tragedy indeed. Well over 10.000 people are dead, and at least double that is still missing. And all that by a simple influx of water. Massive shortages of food, clean water, shelter and lots more. Parents having to dig out their dead child, children having no parents to dig them out anyway. Children who survived, but their parents didn't. It's a tragedy indeed.

Oh, you were talking about a single power plant which may cause a few people to have a slightly higher risk of cancer when they grow old and sick anyway.

[Anonymous No.2782461]

BREAKING NEWS:

Huge spike in water radiation at Japan's quake-hit nuclear plant was a mistaken reading, company spokesman says


/thread

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

[Anonymous No.2782467]

Oh look it's a troll thread
inb4 250+ posts

[Indexer !t1.kaRtHUs No.2782469]

>>2782461
>THE RADIATION IS SO HIGH THEY LOST THE ABILITY TO COUNT PROPERLY?

[Anonymous No.2782470]

There is nothing wrong with your internets. Do not attempt to reload the web page. We are now controlling your information. We control the IP's and the bandwidth. We can deluge you with a thousand panicky threads or expand one single fear to to crystal clarity and beyond. We can shape your news source to anything our imagination can conceive. For the next hour we will control all that you google and wiki. You are about to experience the paranoia and uncertainty which reaches from the deepest inner mind to the outer limits.

[rec & play !!lz9pGsOAX6N No.2782476]

>>2782461
mfw

[Anonymous No.2782485]

>>2782461
lol'd

so

fukken

hard

[Anonymous No.2782488]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/27/japan-idUSLDE72N12G20110327
>Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. later said the extremely high radioactivity readings might have been wrong.

[Anonymous No.2782496]

>>2782354
>asspie board
>claims to be too intelligent for social science
What the fuck, everyone here is a sub human meat calculator and you know it.

[Anonymous No.2782530]

If someone has a cancer, can you prove it's from the nearby nuclear power plant? Or from Smoking? Or from shitty DNA from parents? - nope,

How many of you have actually done any measurements yourself of radiation, so you can tell for sure that nuclear power plants really have the emission that is "documented" and not other values? - I guess no one would spend his/her weekend wasting time on such a excessive and pointless work.
Fukushima plant had safety checks as well... (and they knew it was a tectonically unstable zone! And it was just one major disaster, wait for the next one if all the plants will be alright again - even those lucky ones that didn't had any problems this time). - although safety seems to be rapidly increasing.

There are some rumors that apparently nuclear plants have some negative influence not on people them selfs but on their children. (some German research that I can't be bothered to google and give proper reference so I just label it as rumor)

Yet the fear from radiation might be slightly over exaggerated due to the fact that it is fairly difficult to detect i.e. invisible, no obvious external anomalies in nature... so the simplest thing is - just fear. In the same way as a wild animal would be scared from a radio.

He died just 93 year old... survived 2 nuclear explosions:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/6939379/Japanese-man-who-survived-two-atomic-bo
mbs-dies.html

[Anonymous No.2782534]

LFTR for municipal power

"renewables" adopted by individuals where they make economic sense.

co2/algae bioreactors to sequester factory & powerplant co2.

I just fixed the energy problem, the "emissions" problem (protip: factories and ships emit tons more co2 than all of our cars, yet consumers get reamed in the ass for every automotive technology that's supposed to save the world), and ensured cheap power for everyone.

as a handy side effect, africa and south east asia can now use waste heat to desalinate water which will be the next resource we squabble over.

[Anonymous No.2782538]

>The Japanese government has put the rebuilding cost at $309bn
>rebuilding cost at $309bn
>$309bn

That is one spicy meatball!

[Anonymous No.2782578]

>>2782538
>same amount that the USA spends in the middle east in 3 years
...
>extreme earthquake hits densely populated area, damage estimated at $300bn
>USA spent $300bn to buy guns to shoot sandniggers
>USA has not yet achieved anything in the mid-east yet.

oh boy.

[Anonymous No.2782602]

Nuclear energy is BY FAR the safest form of energy per KWH.
It is also cheaper than anything but hydro, and the best for the environment, tied with solar and wind.

http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2011/3/17/16921/5855/Diary/Nuclear-Energy-is-the-Safest-Per-KWh

http://nuclearfissionary.com/2010/04/02/comparing-energy-costs-of-nuclear-coal-gas-wind-and-solar/

http://transitionvoice.com/2011/03/nukes-are-scary-but-dont-forget-coal/