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Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:20:13 2011 No.2777874 [Reply] [Original]

I have friends that argue that childbirth/pregnancy is "ugly and disgusting".

Personally, I believe it's one of the most natural things humans do, and the whole process itself is quite beautiful what does /sci/ think?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:21:13 2011 No.2777881 ugly, disgusting, and beautiful are not objective measures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:22:13 2011 No.2777888 Childbirth is disgusting, it would be much more beautiful to grow children in vitro. Artificial > natural.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:22:13 2011 No.2777889 Something coming that large tumbling out of a vagina is just gross. I hate kids anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:23:13 2011 No.2777893 >>2777881 "objective measures" does not have any objective sense. as such, your argument is invalid

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:23:13 2011 No.2777898 So many ugly neckbeards in this thread..speak for yourselves you undesirable, basement dwellers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:24:13 2011 No.2777904 >>2777889 What did I just type? >remove "coming" >better

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:25:13 2011 No.2777912 OP is a romantic faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:26:13 2011 No.2777915 Childbirth is disgusting, and children are parasites. sage for irrelevancy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:32:13 2011 No.2777942 I like kids, but I don't find child birth all that attractive... I'd hate to have a baby fall out my ass hole...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:36:13 2011 No.2777961 Thank fuck you misanthropic, depressing pieces of shit will probably never have kids. You're doing the world a great service.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:38:13 2011 No.2777968 I find it funny how people say kids are annoying parasites, like they themselves were never kids. Its probably best if you losers never reproduce.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:39:13 2011 No.2777974 >>2777961 Too bad the rest will continue to reproduce and, ironically, decrease their own value.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:40:13 2011 No.2777982 Pregnant women turn me on

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:57:13 2011 No.2778051 People have no value, we can always make more some time. if we need them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:26:13 2011 No.2778164 The act of having children isn't disgusting by itself, but having children in an overpopulated world where there are so many orphans. People who have multiple children are a scourge upon society.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:31:13 2011 No.2778185 It's natural, but it's raw and filthy and disgusting The IDEA of childbirth is beautiful, but the actual thing is far from that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:32:13 2011 No.2778190 >>2778051 raising and educating them is costly

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:34:13 2011 No.2778198 >>2777968 I was a parasite, but I plan to pay my parents back in full for the financial cost of raising me Why they spent that much time on me, I'll never understand My lack of compliance as a child has convinced me to never have children of my own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:37:13 2011 No.2778205 >>2778164 HURP DURP OVERPOPPLASION TOO CRWDED DERP

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:39:13 2011 No.2778214 >>2778051 yeah good luck making another einstein

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:13 2011 No.2778255

>>2777874
It's one thing to hate kids, but its another thing to hate the idea of raising kids and think they are nothing but parasites and that people shouldn't have them.

Because taking a position like that essentially means you support the suicide of the human race.

How the fuck did you manage to grow up then? Did you materialize into an adult form out of the blue? Did you excise that part of your brain that remembers the first two decades of your life?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:48:13 2011 No.2778254 have friends that argue that pissing, shitting and puking are "ugly and disgusting". Personally, I believe it's one of the most natural things humans do, and the whole process itself is quite beautiful what does /sci/ think?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:50:13 2011 No.2778262

Childbirth is quite disgusting, but it can be technically impressive. Video related.
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Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:53:13 2011 No.2778275

I just realized what a rotten fucking kid I was

I ran the whole gamut of fetishes starting at 13 when I first learned to download porn on my 56k modem and beastiality was one of the first.

Can't quite place preggos on that timeline but it was a very significant part of my porn interests

Oddly enough, the rare porn videos I watch nowadays are almost exclusively homemade clips of people just fucking

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:54:13 2011 No.2778278 >>2778164 Overpopulation is a myth. Earth could support up to 28 trillion humans if we manage land correctly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:55:13 2011 No.2778281 >>2778278 >if we manage land correctly Not gonna happen

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:55:13 2011 No.2778282

>>2778255
I like children but
>Because taking a position like that essentially means you support the suicide of the human race.
That's a valid proposition.
>How the fuck did you manage to grow up then?
Irrelevant. Our lives are not meant to be indefinitely reproduced.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:58:13 2011 No.2778296 >>2778282 What are you doing here, Schopenhauer? You're supposed to have been dead for over a century.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:15:13 2011 No.2778374 >>2778296 I can't let that nietzsche guy get all the hype on this board.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:01:13 2011 No.2778847

The wife was a labor and delivery nurse. Her solution to teenage pregnancy was to haul all middle school girls into a delivery room and let them watch.

I believe that the phrase that she used to describe deliveries was "ugly and disgusting". However, the job did pay well, and she could find work anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:03:13 2011 No.2778853 Childbirth is a necessary function of humanity. That is the only objective statement possible.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:08:13 2011 No.2778871

I'm female and see it as the epitome of body horror. Even thinking about it makes me shudder. I've had recurring nightmares about it for yeara. Adoption/surrogacy/bioreactor(eventually) are all good alternatives.

Also, Malthusian reasoning is bunk. The Earth's carrying capacity is at least 20 billion...just look at a population density chart. Certain locations on the planet are overpopulated, sure, but the planet itself is far from it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:16:13 2011 No.2778908

>>2778853

Until we have the ability to sprout out genetically perfected humans from artifical wombs. Axolotl tanks ftw!
With technology, we can improve the proces of reproduction to the point that childbearing and genders become obsolete. When we can desing our descendants to be anything we want, there is no room for natural evolution anymore.
Soon, we will finally have the ability to shape ourselves to our own vision, and forge a new path of artifical evolution for our species.
A glorious dawn awaits, a future where our children have the freedom to shape their very biology to their liking.

Or we can just go and merge with technology and be done with it. Both are pretty good plans for the future, in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:17:13 2011 No.2778913 The wife mentioned that men could also discover what the childbirth experience was like. To do this, they need one or two strong friends, and a small, greased watermelon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:24:13 2011 No.2778940 The aftermath to a woman's body is not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:25:13 2011 No.2778943 >>2778940 it is also extremely primitive in this day and age. in vitro.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:26:13 2011 No.2778948

I find almost all bodily functions to be utterly repulsive. Every time I start thinking about human body in general, and matters regarding reproduction in particular, I am filled with disgust.
Even more uncomfortable is the fact that I have constantly fight against all kinds of revolting urges that are demanding to be fulfilled. Some people say that I am fucked up in my head, because I refuse to submit to the slavery of my genes, maybe they are correct, but I am too stubborn to chainge my ways.
The slowly dying shell that harbors my mind, displeases me because of it's own imperfections.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 19:46:13 2011 No.2779001 Processing food into shit is natural. Maggots are natural. Something being natural doesn't make it beautiful. Pregnancy is beautiful but birth is fucking disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:17:13 2011 No.2779391 >>2778278 {Citation direly needed]

>>	Anonγmous Sat Mar 26 21:23:13 2011 No.2779423 >>2778278 That gives every living person on earth 5 square meters of land to live on And that also includes shoving them into rainforests, deserts, and swamps. Good luck with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:39:13 2011 No.2779513 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881 >>2777881

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:47:13 2011 No.2779562

>I find it funny how people say kids are annoying parasites, like they themselves were never kids.

I don't see anyone denying that they themselves were annoying parasites-- just that they don't see the point in spawning one. No one asked to be born, fuckface.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 22:01:13 2011 No.2779656

>>2778278
Land isn't the problem, it's sustainability. We have problems with finding an energy source with 6-7 billion people, we have food shortages, and as far as resources go we would need to take a drastic drop in quality of life to support to 28 billion which I assume you mean. Some book claimed that we were currently at twice the sustainable population on earth over 2 years ago.

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