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(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake))

(http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/cremation1.htm))

"An average human body takes from two to three hours to burn completely and will produce an average of 3 to 9 pounds (1.4 to 4.1 kilograms) of ash." - "Industrial cremators can run anywhere from $80,000 for a basic, entry-level model to $250,000 for the latest models. The modern-day incinerators are usually automated or computerized and can be programmed to adjust the temperature as needed. They burn natural gas, propane or diesel instead of the coke and coal that fueled retorts as late as the 1960s, allowing for more efficient and hotter burning while leaving little odor or smoke."

(http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/h/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=32&amp
;limit=1&limitstart=2)

"the crematoria could burn 4,416 corpses per day—1,440 each in crematoria II and III, and 768 each in crematoria IV and V. This meant that the crematoria could burn over 1.6 million corpses per year. Prisoners assigned to do the burning stated that the daily capacity of the four crematoria in Birkenau was higher—about 8 thousand corpses."

It's important to note that Auschwitz, a huge camp that housed half a million people at one point had 46 crematory ovens in all of Auschwitz and the sub camps combined that were all fueled by coal. Holocaust scholars claim the ovens were special in some way that made it so that the ovens could easily burn 10 times the amount of mass (20 if they were really busting their ass that day) in well over 4 times the speed.

Again, how was this accomplished, and why are many modern cremation facilities willing to pay for an oven that costs as much or more than an average american home that takes 4 times as long to burn 1 body than it supposedly took a half century old german model to burn 10?

>> No.2745134

This clearly substantiates the fact that the holocaust was faked

>> No.2745156

>>2745091
not going to take the time and point everything that is wrong with this.

>> No.2745166

>>2745156
It's an interesting historical event, I think it's very worth your time, so long as you're here anyway :3

>> No.2745202

>>2745156
you mirin'?

>> No.2745229

take this shit somewhere else

>> No.2745258

>>2745229
where else does a science/math question belong, bro?

>> No.2745280

oh this thread again

>> No.2745282

>>2745091

> Again, how was this accomplished?

Not sure. I suppose by adding more coal.

> and why are many modern cremation facilities willing to pay for an oven that costs as much or more than an average american home that takes 4 times as long to burn 1 body than it supposedly took a half century old german model to burn 10?

Because they are cheaper in the long run? Also, it states that the ovens used today leave little odor or smoke. Not cool if it keeps smelling like a badly done BBQ in the area each time they light up.

>> No.2745286

well as long as no-one's interested in this, here's a site to help you with math and shit, nigga.

http://www.khanacademy.org/

>> No.2745303

whenever you do something in massive numbers it becomes more efficient bro. thats like common sense and shit. also, nazi's were spewing ash into the air like crazy. they didn't have to do this to any sorta industry standard they were just getting rid of bodies so you cant really compare them to contemporary cremations
its like saying. hey the nazis made one big hole really fast and buried a 1000 people in there in a day.
but for a cemetery to dig a 1000 holes and bury a 1000 people would take months.
WELL NO FUCKING DUH!

>> No.2745361

not a /sci/ question. this is propaganda/advertising

>> No.2745373

>>2745303
so the cremations took a fraction of modern ones because they were "spewing ash into the air like crazy" and not adhering to any sort of "industry standard", that doesn't sound right, man. Burying people and burning flesh are two different things as well, they're not comparable when you're talking about something that takes manpower and something that uses different generations of the same basic machines to reach a similar goal.

Consider this link I included in original post.
(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake))

In an emergency of this magnitude the cremation ovens in use by one of the top economic powers of the world is only able to incinerate 18 bodies daily. One thing that's not mentioned in the article that I'm curious about is whether or not they're running the oven 24 hours a day, but given the enormous size of the disaster I can't imagine they wouldn't be.

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>>2745361
I don't hate Jews and I'm not anti-israel if that's what you're implying. I'm just an isolationist that's very interested in this particular event in history and I'm perturbed by the fact that there are those that have, are, or will sit in a jail cell for their remarks on this event.

>> No.2745419

>>2745373

Bigger ovens. It might be related.

>> No.2745437

They would only cook them for 30 or so minutes, they wouldn't turn them to ash, just cook them good. It would be dumb to waste gas just too cook them fully.

Only two or three million Jews died, who cares, Germans are morons and are way to guilty. Millions of people died in Indonesia in late 2004, not even they give a fuck.

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>>2745419
They were no bigger than the ovens in use today.

>>2745282
>adding more coal
You funny nigga!

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>>2745437
That doesn't make sense to me. It would be just as hard to break down a 1/3rd to 1/6th cooked body as one that wasn't placed in an oven at all, or practically anyway, in fact, the extremely hot melted flesh would make it a real pain in the ass to take out of the oven and handle afterwards. Why have ovens at all in that case when the point is reducing a 70-150lb corpse into an easily disposable 7 to 9lb pile of ashes and bone?

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I'm glad we've been keepin' dis cordial, niggas. If nothing else, than we can muse on the science of dem butts.

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dem butts exhibit 2

>> No.2745539

Not OP

But could I get an intelligent answer to this question?

just so I can shut up a friend with questionable political views

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>>2745539
dem butts to help non-op in his knowledge-quest

>> No.2745554

>>2745539

is the question: How come the japanese ovens only burn 18 bodies per day, while nazi could do a lot more?

>> No.2745576

>>2745554
No.

after reading a bunch of neonazi faggotry, the point that it would have been impossible to burn so many bodies is the only point that is not illogical/baseless racism.

and a friend continuously brings it up and thinks that just because I cannot answer it then it has to be valid evidence of a cover up.

>> No.2745583

>>2745576

How many does he say they burned?

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>>2745554
OP here, the question is how the 52 half-century old ovens in auschwitz could burn 4000-8000 bodies a day (about 77-154 bodies per oven), when modern ones can burn far less. The japanese example involves an incredibly dramatic and true to life emergency situation so I figured it would be pertinent to the discussion.

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>>2745440
Ooo, that image makes me hungry for pizza!

>> No.2745606

>>2745585

A thought is that it has to be much more organized. Collect ashes into an urn, maybe some religious stuff as well. Maybe they burn the bodies even more than the nazis did. Also, I am pretty sure the nazi must have burnt two-three in one oven at times. I mean, babies, kids and small people in general don't need the entire oven alone?

>> No.2745618

>>2745583
we actually went to smaller camp and they claimed 94 corpses in 20 working hours with 2 ovens

>> No.2745620

>>2745606
The problem with adding more bodies is more weight == more time, whether they're women, children or american football players of the early 90's weight of the material is an important factor in the incineration process.

>> No.2745629

>>2745091
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuchter_report#Body_disposal

"During cross-examination, Leuchter was presented with a letter written by the Auschwitz Central Construction Office (Auschwitz Zentralbauleitung) of June 28, 1943, from SS-Sturmbannführer Jahrling to SS-Brigadeführer Hans Kammler stating that the five crematoria installations had a collective daily capacity of 4,756 corpses."

The figure in question comes directly from the Nazis. Maybe they overestimated their body-burning capabilities, or they stuffed bodies into their crematoriums carelessly just trying to get rid of them. If you do the calculations, each crematorium would have to burn 4 bodies per hour, or 8 (emaciated) bodies in the time it usually takes to burn one, not 10 times the amount of mass in well over 4 times the speed.

>> No.2745634

>>2745629
also from there,

"At various times (such as in the summer of 1944 when the extermination process was going at such a rate that the crematoria couldn't keep up),[17] bodies were burnt in open-air pits. Accordingly, the capacity of the crematoria was never a limiting factor,[18] and the pits yielded practically no limit as to the amount of corpses that could be burnt,[19] making further comment on the capacity of the crematoria irrelevant."

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Op, the Nazis tried to kill Jews and other "undesirables" with gas chambers and crematoriums when they had time to dick around.

The real way they got to killing millions was with their gassing trucks. This was the so-called "final solution". The trucks were regular shipping trucks rigged so the exhaust would pump into the back cabin. The undesirables would be led into the truck (easy to do because it looked innocent enough) they would be driven to the burial site while they suffocated in the back. At the burial site a bulldozer would be waiting with a large hole to bury them all. With enough trucks, fuel and holes they killed and disposed of millions.

This was a country wide program when finally implemented. It wasn't just occurring at a few camps.

And don't take my word for it, and certainly don't trust those slimy Jews with this information either.

If you want a great source for this information, look no further than the Nazis. They kept EXCELLENT records.

>> No.2745661

People honestly believe the holocaust never happened?

>> No.2745666

>>2745629
Holocaust deniers deny all of the records. All of them.

>> No.2745670

>>2745620

Yes, but the average jew in a concentration camp probably had a weight of 50kg. A kid, maybe 25.

The average japanese guy maybe 75 kg.

And we know about 6 million jews were killed. I would suspect that not all were burned.

Also from the wikipedia article of the discredited report:

> At various times (such as in the summer of 1944 when the extermination process was going at such a rate that the crematoria couldn't keep up), bodies were burnt in open-air pits. Accordingly, the capacity of the crematoria was never a limiting factor, and the pits yielded practically no limit as to the amount of corpses that could be burnt, making further comment on the capacity of the crematoria irrelevant.

>> No.2745675

>>2745661
It's an interesting mix of hating Jews but not wanting to believe millions were epically killed.

You would think they would think the holocaust was awesome and obsess over and exaggerate the numbers for fun.

>"And then 100 million Jews were killed!"
>"But Papa, there were never 100 million Jews. Not ever."
>"And there never will be! The end."

>> No.2745682

i don't deny jews being killed. but the 6 million figure is total bullshit. i think it was less than 2 million jews.

>> No.2745688

>>2745682

why? and what does it matter?

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OP here, big mistake in my opening post.

Auschwitz had 52 ovens, not 46

4756(ovens) / 52(ovens) = 91 cremations a day per oven.

According to the "2-3 hours" stated on almost every cremation article I've seen a modern crematory oven can burn about 12 corpses a day.

This is where our tragic japanese example comes in because we're dealing with an emergency situation with what we can assume is a high number of dead made up of lots of women and children (all of whom are members of a population that are smaller on average than their european counterparts to begin with).

Thanks for pointing out my err, bro. 4 times mass at 10 times speed-I can't remember where I got those numbers. The story goes that several bodies were thrown in at a time, and using the auschwitz math the bodies burned in the same amount of time as one in a modern oven. Somehow with that I got that "equation" and now I don't know what the hell I was thinking.

>> No.2745702

>>2745688
i'm not really sure how much it matters, but the supposed scholars that study this(i.e. the jewish scholars) are always making a big deal out of it and nobody ever calls them on their bullshit.

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>>2745695
Okay, this is "science AND math" so please tell me where you get the figure:

>91 cremations a day per oven.

What is the initial figure of bodies to be cremated? How many days did they have to burn these bodies?

We need more information. You can't just say "It's eleventy Jillion per oven so NO Jewz died!"

>> No.2745728

>>2745702

I agree they are making a big fuzz (seems like a big deal in the US at least), but I don't see why 6 million is hard to believe. And it's so long ago it does not matter. More than 6 million people have died in between then and now. It's only people. Or as the Nazis said: It's only jews.

Stalin was worse. Easily.

>> No.2745732

I don't understand where the holocaust deniers go with this shit. It's not like a Jewish person every got anything positive from the Holocaust. Do they expect me to believe that the doors just opened up for every Jewish person thanks to the Holocaust?

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The problem with all these suppositions about burial pits is that if the crematoria could burn 4756 bodies a day or 8000(as the auschwitz site adds without a footnote) than they wouldn't need to have any burial or burning pits at all.

According to the auschwitz site the little red house burning pits/gas chamber was dismantled when the crematoria opened. Would the nazis have dismantled a valuable killing infrastructure if there was a set goal in place to eliminate jews?

http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/z/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=35
"A new complex of gas chambers and crematoria went into operation in Birkenau in 1943, as a result of which the SS stopped killing people in the “Little Red Bunker.” The building and barracks were dismantled and the ground plowed over to erase all the evidence."

So, they erased the evidence nearly two years prior to the end of the war?

I like the sudden burst of activity. Keep the discussions cordial, please, and again, I'm not claiming Israel's illegitimacy nor am I speaking with any hatred for jews.

>> No.2745739

>>2745715

read entire post.

4756 bodies per day, given from nazi dox.

52 ovens.

4756 people in 52 ovens is 91,46153846 cremations per day.

Then he goes on to say it did happend.

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>>2745715
4756(bodies per 24 hours) / 52(crematory ovens = 91 bodies incinerated a day per oven. It's really not as ridiculous or hard to understand as you claim, particularly if you read the op.

>> No.2745749

>>2745739
okay, someone's shitty math doesn't mean the Germans weren't experts at killing Jews.

Start with better numbers.

>> No.2745752

>>2745695
4756(cremations a day)

lol @ 4756 OVENS hoo-boy nigga I beez trippin' 2 day)

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>>2745091
Who the fuck cares?
So, they didn't cremate everyone, They still killed them.

\thread

>> No.2745772

>>2745749
I don't see what's shitty about it besides the fact I accidentally implied that the equation involved ovens incinerating other ovens.

Otherwise 4756(cremations a day) divided amongst 52 crematory ovens yields 91 cremations a day per oven.

>> No.2745792

Mass graves. Not every body was cremated. Moving on...

>> No.2745799

>>2745768
If they didn't cremate everyone than what's the point of the inflated numbers chum? :3

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>>2745792
Again, what would the point of mass graves be if the cremation production was so high? I'm not disputing the fact mass graves existed, obviously, but if we're ever going to find out what and to what extent we have to stop taking things at face value.

>> No.2745842

>>2745820
you are starting with half of shitty figures. We can do proper dead Jew math if you just give proper fucking figures.

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>>2745842
you seem upset.

>> No.2745883

Burning someone who is physically fit is more time-consuming than burning someone who was starving to death.

>> No.2745895

>>2745820
Please tell me that's Rachael McAdams.
Please tell me that's Rachael McAdams.
Please tell me that's Rachael McAdams.

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>>2745734

>The problem with all these suppositions about burial pits is that if the crematoria could burn 4756 bodies a day or 8000(as the auschwitz site adds without a footnote)

Those figures were were given by SS-Sturmbannführer Jahrling to SS-Brigadeführer Hans Kammler in a letter about the camp. It is the potential of the ovens as calculated by the nazi authorities.
Here is a picture of the original letter. You may not be able to speak German, but the figures are quite clearly presented syntactically.

>than they wouldn't need to have any burial or burning pits at all.

You're assuming a uniform distribution throughout the period. The burial pits seem to have been created towards the end of the operation, as the rate of gassing increased in response to the threat of the camp's closure by enemy forces.
With any such operation, it would be expected that sometimes they would run under capacity, and other times they would require spare capacity.

All of this information has been presented by 'expert' witnesses in court-cases. All of has been expertly discredited and dismissed. Do the research.

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>>2745878
You come to this board and state "I smashed two bullshit numbers together and got an impossible result" and you expect us to have WHAT reaction, I ask?

You want to know why the numbers you got are impossible? I have a hint, it's not a vast Jewish plot against you, IT'S THAT YOUR MATH FUCKING SUCKS.

Got it? You can't fucking add, subtract, divide, or multiply. You can't even fucking research proper figures to even begin your awful fucking retard math.

The figures you provide don't make logical sense BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT. Got it?

There isn't a secret society of powerful jews sitting around a table drinking baby blood and plotting a cover up to get more joo golds.

Come back to us when you understand elementary school level math and problem solving.

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>>2745883
It's all in the weight. The story as everyone understands it (and can be confirmed by a visit to auschwitz.org.pl) is that a great number of jews were killed right off the train and many burned at the same time. How ever many of them could be considered emaciated on arrival is a mystery as I don't believe any data on that fact exists, not to mention a detail of the story is that many were burned at once (a horribly sacrilegious act if true). More weight == more time.

>>2745895
I dunno man, sry.

>> No.2745964

>>2745895

Confirmed - Its rachel dude... I almost couldnt believe it either.

>> No.2745969

>>2745944

Not unreasonable to assume that those who were gassed straight off the train were the most emaciated which would facilitate burning those bodies quickly.

>> No.2745977

>>2745895
TinEye says Kelly Brook.

>> No.2745992

>>2745944

>How ever many of them could be considered emaciated on arrival is a mystery

Cattle carts.

Jews did not suddenly arrive at the concentration camp a day after they'd been detained. They were removed from ghettos. Do you believe that those ghettos were given enough supplies to maintain the population, let alone their weight? Do you believe that slave labour leaves the body unaffected?

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Only /sci/ can prove what /new/ could never do.

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>>2745932
You seem upset that 4756 cremations in 24 hours, a number supplied by the official auschwitz website, divided by 52 ovens working 24 hours is the equivalent of 91 cremations a day per oven.

I don't really have to ask if "you mad" or not, but you seem to be getting more irrational by the post and I suggest you drink a glass of warm milk or something to calm your nerves.

>>2745926
Thanks for the doc (did you get that at the Auschwitz site?). I'm still wondering about the science involved. How were these bodies burned at such a rate when to this day a one of the top economies in the world can't even approach that after having suffered one of the worst natural disasters...pretty much ever.

>> No.2746078

>>2746032

If we hired some Japanese engineers to build us a oven for burning Jews in the fastest and most efficient way I am pretty sure they could beat the old nazi record.

>> No.2746090

>>2746032

>Thanks for the doc (did you get that at the Auschwitz site?).

No. I knew it from memory and found the picture by a search relating to a trial it was shown at. The document is a little (if only a little) famous.
Just because they don't provide the source, doesn't mean there aren't sources.

>I'm still wondering about the science involved.

There are degrees of cremation. Reducing a human being to true ash, which is what's required by the tastes and morals of human, civil cremation, is a much longer process than simply burning a body. The reason human remains are burnt for so very long in the modern world is that a stray hunk of bone is not something you want to see in the urn on your mantle-piece. There was no such requirement at the concentration camps. People were not burnt entirely to ash, but often to a crumbling heap, like a pourous, weak form of slag. This takes far less time.
There are also many other reasons that have been mentioned in this thread already, such as the emaciated condition of the bodies (my post here: >>2745992 ).

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I feel like this whole thread is one guy refuting his own holocaust denial posts.

>> No.2746137

>>2745373
> the cremation ovens in use by one of the top economic powers of the world is only able to incinerate 18 bodies daily

Economic power isn't measured by how many bodies per day you're able to incinerate. Not a lot of the top economic powers specialize in incinerating bodies. This happens to be what nazi germany specialized in. Not only did they put a lot of resources into it, but they had a large market for incinerating bodies. I wouldn't call it a feat of technological "advancement".

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>>2746090
Could a body only left in for a fraction of the time really be considered a "crumbling heap"? I would think "extremely hot triple-extra large skin pizza with bones" would be accurate-but I can't be sure your description or mine would truly be the accurate one until I conduct an interview with an actual cremation specialist (something I hope to get the chance to do some time this year).

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>>2746137
implying implications I did not imply, you saucy knave! But anyone that's been following this far knows that already...or at least anyone that cared to read the op.

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>>2746162

>Could a body only left in for a fraction of the time really be considered a "crumbling heap"?

It certainly seems to have been what was done.

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>>2746162
>extremely hot triple-extra large skin pizza with bones

>> No.2746186

>>2745373
Environmental regulations.
The Japanese give a shit about them.
The Nazis didn't, especially when they were losing the fucking war and felt a desperate need to get rid of the Jews ASAP.

And, YES, environmental protection equipment can make a huge difference in this kind of activity. 4-fold, very easily.

>> No.2746193

>>2746179
what a waste. they could have been used for food.

>> No.2746196

>>2746170

Oh I see now. I misunderstood it as holocaust denial.

What you're asking is, "Why aren't we using nazi technology for burning people today, when it's cheaper in large quantities than the more environmentally friendly ovens in use today?"

Answers:
1. Not a large market for burning people in large quantities.
2. People seem to prefer the clean-burning smell of not burnt people.
3. It's not economically feasible to keep around a few spare large-scale concentration camps on the chance that they may come in handy during a natural disaster.

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>racism on /sci/

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>>2746179

That looks like fully cremated remains bro...it's normal for the ash to contain large fragments of bone or to even be "recognizable as human remains" after a complete cremation in a modern furnace. Even still, the score is still 2011 japan 18, 1943 Germany 91.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/cremation2.htm

Once the body is completely burned, the chamber is then cooled and the cremated remains, which are often still recognizable as human skeletal remains, are swept with a long-handled hoe or wire-bristle broom into a tray.

>> No.2746236

>>2746218

I found this very interesting. Scroll down to "Cremation Capacity."

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

I have to go to work, anyway.

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>>2746211

I Don't hate Jews, nor do I challenge Israel's legitimacy. I'm just wondering about "dem ovens".

Said ovens not appearing physically different than ovens in use anywhere else at the time, either in dimensions or fuel-source.

individual Japanese oven circa 2011 - 18 bodies a day. individual German oven circa 1943 - 91 bodies a day.

how do?

>> No.2746258

>>2746244
>implying japan doesn't have to wait to try and identify the bodies

>> No.2746259

>>2746244
Environmental concerns.

Look, I have pictures of my dad in the 40s. The day after a fresh snow, all of the snow would be black- soot. The British died by the thousands as a result of killer smog in the 50s from heating their homes. It was a very, very different time.

Today, the ovens are different, and it is because of environmental concerns.

>> No.2746295

>>2746244

good lawdy, please provide some SOY SAUCE

>> No.2746310

Because the holocaust ovens were designed to go through massive amounts of bodies in one day and cleaniness/lack of odour/quality of result was not important. Crematoriums are designed for one person at a time to be completely burnt without odour. Odds are you already knew this and are trolling.
2/10 kinda mad but not really.

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>>2746236
I've got work later as well and this will be it for me as well. I actually looked into this website, particularly the opening paragraph leading into source 104 (cremation of the dead by william eassie)

and if you read it yourself here
http://books.google.com/books?id=3YUBAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=cremation+of+the+dead+e
assie&source=bl&ots=En1EogaU3E&sig=_AAmHvYTE8xwjPK_mBhxDY7IXyo&hl=en&ei=vfyGTbKF
NYmF0QG7opXjCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&
amp;q&f=false

You see that the author is talking about a series of experimental cremations performed by Henry Thompson on page 106-107 followed by one by Siemens on page 108 (one involving "heated hydrocarbon in a gaseous form" that supposedly burned a 227 lb man in 55 minutes.) and not any form of cremation that was in use by germany at the time except on page 105-106 the current method is described without results.

It's all about the german coal ovens that were actually in use vs natural gas that is largely used today.

>> No.2746320

>>2745091

> implying all of the 6 million jews you always hear about were burnt and not killed by some other means, too.

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>>2746259
>>2746186

(http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/cremation1.htm))
They burn natural gas, propane or diesel instead of the coke and coal that fueled retorts as late as the 1960s, allowing for more efficient and hotter burning while leaving little odor or smoke."

So because coal isn't environmentally friendly it burns flesh better than natural gas? Wut.

>> No.2746334

>>2746325
ever stop and think that japan is slow to burn the bodies because the bodies have yet to be identified?

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>>2746320
Who's implying it? Me? Or the historians that edit the official Auschwitz website? Remember, at one point Auschwitz was purported to be the death site of 4 million people, in which case I can see the imperative in claiming that it would have been possible for 4 million bodies to have been cremated there (4756 a day) no matter how many bodies were strewn about (which I severely doubt was in the 10s of thousands, let alone millions)

>> No.2746370

>>2746334
No, because I would assume those are two separate parts of the process. One team to go about identifying bodies and piling them up, another team to bring them from said pile to the ovens and burn them. It wouldn't be characteristic of the japanese to have such an inefficient operation in place where they're identifying bodies as they're burning them, not to mention the great amount of time, phone calls etc. it would take to identify each victim in between cremations.

>> No.2746379

>>2746347
10s * 100s sorry.

>> No.2746408

>>2746325
It isn't just the fuel. It is the temp and the reload time. To burn a body in Japan, they burn one body, clean the oven thoroughly, and reload. The krauts put one body in until there wasn't much left, then put another body in while some of the first was still burning. Right there is a roughly 3-fold difference.

And, yeah, if you need to install and replace SO2 scrubbers, that shit takes time. A lot of it.

>> No.2746445

>>2746347

The Anon i referenced, derp.

>> No.2746476

>since everything the media says is true
>6 million jews died
>it's more important that any other genocide
>sceptics should go to prison
>nazis killed jews, so it is legitimate to give palestine to jews
>germans of today, even if they have nothing to do witht the holocaust must pay the jews
>you can talk about every event in history but not the holocaust

i am not being sarcastic this is what i actually believe, shame on you OP

>> No.2746519

/sci/ - Where tits and holocaust come together

>> No.2747703

>>2746519
naw the guy is an asshole troll who thinks tits validate his point.
He says:
>ACCORDING TO TEH JEW WEBSITE NAZIS KILLED NINTY TRILLION JOOS A DAY! IMPROSSIBLE!

He's a fucking idiot. So much bad math everywhere and he uses it as "PROOF". Jesus, it's headache inducing.