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2733529 No.2733529 [Reply] [Original]

what happens to Schrödinger's cat if you didn't open the box?

>> No.2733535

dies of starvation

>> No.2733551

It is still in the one state even when unobserved. The localization of space time is either in one state or the other; just because it is not observed does not mean it is neither nor both. It's not a goddamn paradox and Schrodinger was a nobhead.

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2733555

it remains in a state of uncertainty. In reality it is either dead or alive, but when science worries about describing what the cat is in either case it describes it using a wave function

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2733561

why does science always use cats for these thought experiments

>> No.2733578

>thinks schrodingers cat isn't just a thought experiment
>laughinggirls.jpg

>> No.2733596

he does whatever he wants because cats are too big to apply to the quantum theory. but he probably licks himself or sleeps from my experience of having a cat..

>> No.2733600

>>2733596
but there are other better animals like a monkey or an elephant

>> No.2733609

It's either dead or alive because the Geiger counter acts as an observer.

>> No.2733621

>>2733561
Because no one likes cats.

>> No.2733658

>>2733609
That's from the Geiger counter's frame of reference.
From an external observer, it's still a wave function.

>> No.2733682

>>2733658
Wait, so the Geiger counter is also in a superposition of having ticked or not ticked? And the sound wave it gives off has either reached me or not reached me? And I simultaneously know the cat is dead and that it's alive? Fuck free will.

>> No.2733687

>>2733658
http://web.archive.org/web/20061130173850/http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-311/aflb311m387.pdf
>Our results are consistent with the idea that a
measurement from the Geiger counter is sufficient to collapse the quantum
state.

>> No.2733836

bamp

>> No.2733852

>>2733682
calm down, if you heard the Geiger counter you observed it and the wave function collapsed

>> No.2733882

>>2733852
according to the paper in >>2733687, the Geiger counter itself collapses the wave function. if I recall correctly that was Bohr's way of considering the problem.

>> No.2733932

>>2733882
it doesn't really matter as long as you stay consistent. it's just a way of modeling uncertainties

>> No.2733949

>if I recall correctly that was Bohr's way of considering the problem

Only if you buy in to the boring world of Niels Bohr.

>> No.2734040

>>2733687
That's a pretty stupid paper. They find that
>In all repetitions, we found that neither the state of the ball nor the state of the truth-card changed upon Observer A becoming conscious of the true output of the Geiger counter.
but this is the result predicted whether or not the Geiger counter collapses the wavefunction.