/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2729535]

Okay, if sapient AI theoretically possible... WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE PUTTING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO RESEARCHING THIS SHIT?

I mean, seriously. What price would you pay TO HAVE A SELF-REPLICATING, INFINITELY INTELLIGENT RACE OF ROBOTS FIGURE OUT ALL OF LIFE'S QUESTIONS? We should be investing 100% of our resources into this. Then once sapient AI is invented, their intelligence will increase exponentially, they will exceed the brainpower of humans but without the need to sleep, eat, or be entertained. They will develop new technologies to make our lives so much better and solve all of humanity's problems. At some point humanity can just retire in relative luxury while the robots lead our civilization to the stars and beyond. Imagine never having to work, never getting sick, always having food, being able to spend all your time doing the things you enjoy while robots run civilization.

Seriously. What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.2729540]

copypasta

[Anonymous No.2729543]

>>2729540
Not a copypasta. I fucking wrote this shit up right now.

[Anonymous No.2729544]

[Anonymous No.2729552]

You make the assumption that the robots won't slaughter us all.

[Anonymous No.2729564]

>>2729535
> What price would you pay TO HAVE A SELF-REPLICATING, INFINITELY INTELLIGENT RACE OF ROBOTS FIGURE OUT ALL OF LIFE'S QUESTIONS?
About $2.50
Is it going to cost more than that? Okay, fuck it, nevermind. I'll buy a soda instead.

[Anonymous No.2729575]

>>2729543
you have/had a very similar post about time travel bullshit

[Anonymous No.2729597]

>>2729564

>Soda costs $2.50 where you live

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE? TOKYO?

[Anonymous No.2729612]

>>2729597
Fukushima actually...oh wait

[Anonymous No.2729660]

im actually making a bot right now, not sure how smart it will be though,.

[Anonymous No.2729704]

>>2729535
Exactly what questions do you want it to answer?

[Anonymous No.2729724]

>>2729704
Everything. That's the point. All our problems would be solved since they would be near infinitely more intelligent than us.

[Anonymous No.2729728]

who is we? really who is going to invest trillions of dollars for the reasearch

[Anonymous No.2729734]

>>2729724
>implying all problems have perfect solutions

Give me five questions you'd like it to answer.

[снайпер No.2729743]

>>2729704
>Exactly what questions do you want it to answer?

"How can the net amount of entropy of the universe be massively decreased?"

[Anonymous No.2729748]

>>2729743
BEEP-BOOP-ASK ME NEXT PARAGRAPH-WHIRR

[Anonymous No.2729760]

>>2729728
The world. We'd focus all the resources our entire civilization has into this.

>>2729734
Just off the top of my head:
>world hunger and malnutrition
>global warming
>desertification
>shitty economy
>military conflicts

With supremely intelligent robots running the show, these would be solved.

[Anonymous No.2729762]

>>2729743
>Multi-vac:"..."
>Humanity:"I guess we'll nev-"
>Multi-vac:"MAHOU SHOUJOS."
>Humanity:"..."
>Multi-vac:"DESU~"

[Anonymous No.2729768]

>>2729552
Honestly, if they kill us, they kill us. We probably deserved it for the way we consistently shat over the lessons of history. Still, we can't ignore fire because of the potential for arson.

[Anonymous No.2729779]

>>2729760
>We'd focus all the resources our entire civilization has into this.
Realistically speaking, the reason this hasn't already happened is because no one is certain the rewards of such an investment would be worth the resources it would consume. You assume limitless potential, but can you guarantee it? If you can, you've got some grants to write.

[Anonymous No.2729815]

>>2729760

Yeah, there answer would be too kill all humans.. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.2729826]

>>2729760
>world hunger and malnutrition
Agricultural reform in those areas suffering from food shortages. This will likely require both political and military intervention to halt a self-sustaining cycle of over-reproduction and tribal warfare. This is hard.

>global warming
Institute mass construction of nuclear power plants and natural gas-burning power plants while heavily taxing petroleum and oil production, culminating in outlaw of petroleum fuel products twenty-five years from now. This is hard.

>desertification
Plant assloads of trees. This is hard.

>shitty economy
Solution depends on what you believe to be the optimal situation. For my version of what is best, create strong impetus to work to the best of one's ability by making living on government money highly unpleasant, along with restricting the voting rights of anyone convicted of violent or financial crimes. Filing baseless lawsuits to be punished with televised execution. This is hard.

>military conflicts
Give all people free and unfettered access to the internet along with robust electronic language translation, and this problem will solve itself in less than a century. Civilized countries such as Canada, the US, France, etc already do not war with one another. This is hard.


The answers to all of those questions are already known to anyone who applies reason to the problem. This does not mean the answers are easy to implement.

[Anonymous No.2729831]

>>2729779
Agreed, but I don't see how a truly intelligent creature could readily kill its forebears. Then again, I'm only human.

[Anonymous No.2729839]

>>2729760
>world hunger and malnutrition
Agricultural reform in those areas suffering from food shortages. This will likely require both political and military intervention to halt a self-sustaining cycle of over-reproduction and tribal warfare. This is hard.

>global warming
Institute mass construction of nuclear power plants and natural gas-burning power plants while heavily taxing petroleum and coal production, culminating in outlaw of petroleum fuel products twenty-five years from now. This is hard.

>desertification
Plant assloads of trees. This is hard.

>shitty economy
Solution depends on what you believe to be the optimal situation. For my version of what is best, create strong impetus to work to the best of one's ability by making living on government money highly unpleasant, along with restricting the voting rights of anyone convicted of violent or financial crimes. Filing baseless lawsuits to be punished with televised execution. This is hard.

>military conflicts
Give all people free and unfettered access to the internet along with robust electronic language translation, and this problem will solve itself in less than a century. Civilized countries such as Canada, the US, France, etc already do not war with one another. This is hard.


The answers to all of those questions are already known to anyone who applies reason to the problem. This does not mean the answers are easy to implement.

[Anonymous No.2729859]

>>2729826
>mfw someone actually gets it
+27 internets to you good sir!

[Anonymous No.2729860]

>Give all people free and unfettered access to the internet along with robust electronic language translation
China and Russia immediately declare unrestricted cyber warfare in retaliation for undermining their governments. You no longer have an online economy.

[Anonymous No.2729861]

>>2729859
actually meant to link
>>2729839

[Anonymous No.2729864]

>>2729815

I don't think robots would gain anything from killing humans. Besides, we would have created them. A being that intelligent that can tap into the collective consciousness would not be a violent one.

[Anonymous No.2729883]

>>2729860
I said it would be hard. Pay attention.

>unrestricted cyber warfare

What the fuck does that even mean? Civilian internet infrastructure is thousands of times larger than anything directly operated by any government. The Chinese government might be able to DDoS a few hundred websites by itself but against the internet at large it's like trying to keep the rain off the ground with a firehose.

[Anonymous No.2729909]

>>2729839

We need to get this man cloned, or put him up for studding with as many bitches as he damn well pleases.

Right now.

Where's my cloning vat. God damn.

[Anonymous No.2729948]

>>2729883
>I said it would be hard. Pay attention.
>my suggestions have absolutely retarded consequences, pay attention!


google "Eligible Receiver"
google "Stuxnet"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/opinion/28iht-edabrial28.html?scp=4&sq=cyber&st=cse

http://www.economist.com/node/16478792

http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG877.pdf


I'm sorry you're utterly ignorant of the new unfolding realities, but feel free to call me an idiot if it makes you feel better.

[Anonymous No.2729970]

>>2729948
>stuxnet
>mfw it couldn't even shut down the nuclear program of one pissant country

[Anonymous No.2729976]

>>2729970
I give you 5 sources, and that's the best you can do?

0/10

[Anonymous No.2730127]

>>2729743
we have a loooooooooooooooooong way to go until entropy will have its say in the entire universe. assuming the universe is closed, which we don't fully know.

[Scientist No.2730142]

>>2729535
>I mean, seriously. What price would you pay TO HAVE A SELF-REPLICATING, INFINITELY INTELLIGENT RACE OF ROBOTS FIGURE OUT ALL OF LIFE'S QUESTIONS?
Who says they'd do any better than us?

Also, we don't much like slavery.

[Scientist No.2730144]

>>2730127
The universe is flat. The evidence strongly indicates this, or close enough to be flat that it's within the small measurement error of, what, 1%? I forget the exact numbers.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2730191]

>>2729535
Because most people with the resources and the power don't see a Manna-esque world with pretty flowers and robots errywhere.

[Anonymous No.2730209]

>>2729760
>world hunger and malnutrition
Make family planning obligatory by law in Africa and other poor areas.
Cut aid and teach them how to become agriculturally autonomous and sustainably so. Cut aid, let them adapt by their own resources or die. They will ultimately learn to self-regulate their own populations according to their resources. If not, again, cut aid, close borders and let evolution has its say.

>global warming
Make the transition to solar energy by giving consumers who buy solar powered products a discount or tax deductions. You can make this transition in less than 30 years, but the solar tech need to advance too to reduce their carbon print in the meanwhile.

>desertification
Geo-engineer desertified areas to make water irrigation available and possibly transfer rich soil from other areas, as well as vegetation.

>shitty economy
Give incentives to people to hive-organise, open-source-style. Cut all big companies and governments from the cheese. Let people produce what they're best at and trade their goods on the internet. Keep order enforcement and administration to a minimum.

>military conflicts
Which ones? First, the Gordian knot is Israel. You have to divide it, let Palestinians have their separateshare, make Jerusalem a neutral city controlled by the international community and enforce an at least 1 km no-man's-land between both countries. Make a pact with the Arab world and close your borders with them: you keep your shit within your borders, we keep ours home. Result: no terrorism, no war for resources, no immigration, everything separate, except some degree of commerce.

[Implying No.2730237]

>>2729768
>Honestly, if they kill us, they kill us. We probably deserved it for the way we consistently shat over the lessons of history.

[Anonymous No.2730243]

> TO HAVE A SELF-REPLICATING, INFINITELY INTELLIGENT RACE OF ROBOTS FIGURE OUT WHY HUMANS DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE IN A RATIONAL WORLD?

[Anonymous No.2730259]

>>2730237

Humans are a funny, transitive race.

[Anonymous No.2730271]

>>2730209
You should be the world emperor.

[Anonymous No.2730275]

how the hell are you going to program a robot to answer questions you don't know the answer to or how to solve? your dumbass robots will just spit out some error codes when it can't answer shit.