/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2718373]

Why do black people have more gorilla/monkey-like features than white people/azns etc? Big, flat noses.. Heavy foreheads.. Huge mouths. No one has ever answered this for me. Tell me anon.

[Anonymous No.2718378]

Because they are untermensch.

[Anonymous No.2718380]

This is not /new/

Why are you here ?

[Anonymous No.2718384]

because africa, i would go into more details but im 90% sure you are just trolling

[Anonymous No.2718390]

>>2718378
This is a scientific fact

[Anonymous No.2718394]

>>2718373
Because blunt weapons.

[Anonymous No.2718395]

Because they're adapted for life in hot climates.

[Anonymous No.2718396]

>>2718384
Just Africa?

Then how do you explain the ape-like faces of abos?

[Anonymous No.2718400]

>>2718395
big lips and fat noses are hot climate adaptations how exactly?

[Anonymous No.2718407]

>>2718395
weird that SE asians and south american jungle peoples don't have ANY of the supposed nigger adaptations to hot climate

[Anonymous No.2718420]

>>2718407
Because they are asians who arrived there just 15000 years ago as much.

They ARE adapting to the clime. For instance you can match the skin tone of a guarani and an aleuthian

[Anonymous No.2718427]

They didn't need phenotypic selection to survive.

If you go to New Guinea, they look like blacks with slight variations. They are the most distantly related to blacks, part of the first wave that left.

Caucasians developed larger and broader noses in order to manage the colder climate present during their migration. Skin gradience is also a result of this. Asians developed eyes for the same reason.

Jaw shapes, not quite sure but likely because they didn't need the necessary jaw size and biting ability.

[Anonymous No.2718428]

>>2718400
>implying apes have big lips
also, a lot of azns have really broad noses and big lips too. they don't all look like fucking anime characters.

[Anonymous No.2718429]

>>2718407
>SE asians

lrn2 melanesians

[Anonymous No.2718433]

>>2718407
They had already evolved to have other features before moving to those places.

[Anonymous No.2718443]

>>2718429

Read this. Melanesians were part of the first wave that migrated. They stayed in hot climates and moved relatively quickly, leaving very little populations behind.

Practically all non-Africans were part of a single wave afterwards. That in turn split up 40-50k years ago.

>>2718427

[Anonymous No.2718444]

>>2718427
>jew shape

...

Semithic. Not all semithic peoples are/were jews...
I even doubt if there is any actually semithic jew remain after the ashkenazi invasion

[Anonymous No.2718446]

>>2718373
>>2718407
You know what. I'm tired of trying to convince idiots. You're going to be a dumbass either way.

So have your way. You're completely right. Niggers have ape-like features because they are less evolved, meaning they are horrible animals and you should disrespect them at every opportunity. Never treat them as equals because they obviously aren't.

K, topic is done. All OP wanted was someone to pat his racist, white middle classes suburban ass so that he feels justified in his racist ideologies. Thread is over now. Everyone go home.

[Anonymous No.2718454]

>>2718444
I said jaw size. Not Jew size.

[Anonymous No.2718458]

>>2718446

I have no idea why you started talking with him in the first place. It's just /new/ trash trying to pick a fight. His mind has already been convinced. Nothing you say or do will change that

[Anonymous No.2718460]

>>2718458
That was my first post in the thread.

[Anonymous No.2718466]

>>2718446
<span class="math">y(u_{mad})^{though}?[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.2718477]

>>2718373
>Black people have ape-like features, therefore it's okay to treat them like animals

Flawless logic OP.

[Anonymous No.2718496]

>>2718466
because he has a sense of decency and racism is disgusting

[Anonymous No.2718519]

>>2718496
Bigot.

[Anonymous No.2718522]

>>2718477

I don't recall OP saying that. Can you tell me where he said it?

[Anonymous No.2718525]

>>2718519
lol.

[Anonymous No.2718526]

>First homo sapiens in Africa
>Later ones became more advanced and migrated north
>Inferior ones stayed back
>Africa is the least advanced continent in the world
>Half of Africans are in the US
>Slavery fucked evolution and natural selection in the ass by mixing less advanced Africans with more advanced caucasians

[Anonymous No.2718553]

>>2718526
>Africa isn't developed

And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that the climate is shitty for growing fuck-all, right? And I'm sure it helped when imperialists from the temperate climates raped everything in Africa. Trying to attribute lack of African development to a difference in race is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2718558]

>>2718522
That was the purpose of this thread and you know it.

[Anonymous No.2718559]

>>2718395

this

all of those are adaptations for africa's climate

[Anonymous No.2718567]

>>2718553
Well, then it makes sense that smarter humans left that shithole for a climate with better opportunities

[Anonymous No.2718571]

>>2718558

[Citation needed]

I'm sorry, but you'll have to offer some better proof than that. You have no way of knowing and no reason for believing that that was the purpose of the thread.

[Anonymous No.2718573]

French people have them beat:
>>2718361

[Anonymous No.2718605]

>>2718571

Im not the guy you are arguing with - but i'll say that he is right. It may not be said directly but it is implied that because they look like our distant relatives they should be treated as such.

[Anonymous No.2718616]

>>2718605

Where is it implied? I have been given claims but no evidence to back them up.

And saying "it's implied" is very subjective. There's no way of verifying it.

[Anonymous No.2718630]

>>2718616

have you even looked at the image provided? it clearly indicates that. Stop being a pretentious douche.

[Anonymous No.2718648]

ITT: People implying that asking any scientific question about race means you're a racist.

[Anonymous No.2718660]

>>2718630

I'm just arguing the same way that PCfags do. Why is it that you people see fit to ask for unreasonable amounts or kinds of proof for things that are obvious, but get butthurt when the same demands are made of you?

And the image doesn't "clearly indicate" that at all. that's just your interpretation. Maybe it was the only image he could find which illustrated the point that he explicitly made about common facial features? You need to give more evidence than "clearly". this is /sci/, not /b/. We use the scientific method.

[Anonymous No.2718676]

because they live on the same continent as the monkeys

[Anonymous No.2718683]

>>2718400
Bigger surface area for heat loss.

[Anonymous No.2718712]

>>2718648
technically it does, but scientifically, any distinction between races = racism.

racism is science, but its different then what most people (stormfags and libtards alike) think.

[Anonymous No.2718727]

>>2718683

larger nostrils also assist in obtaining more inhale-able oxygen in the typical hot and humid climate

[Anonymous No.2718769]

jesus shit christ go back to your fucking community college and take anthro 101 you retards

all these questions and more will be answered by taking human evobio if you have a half-decent textbook/professor

it's not like genetic variation in the human species is a big fucking scientific mystery that no one has studied for fear of being called racist

if you think that you don't know SHIT about biology

yes I mad

[Anonymous No.2718878]

>>2718660
If you are unable to recognise a troll when you see it...

>>>/x/7230063

[Anonymous No.2718962]

[Anonymous No.2718993]

>>2718373
/thread

[Anonymous No.2719004]

Only Whites and Asians have superior Neanderthal genes. Umad untermensch?

[Anonymous No.2719007]

>>2718993
SE Asian is from SE Asia

[Anonymous No.2719010]

>>2719004
>Neanderthal
>superior

???

[Anonymous No.2719011]

I was under the impression that the black races of Africa were the only races of humans who lacked any kind of Neanderthal DNA.

[Anonymous No.2719023]

>>2719007
Comrade Mao says hi.

[Anonymous No.2719028]

>>2719010
give me any evidence that Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis were in any way intellectually inferior to the people groups who migrated out of africa later

[Anonymous No.2719036]

>>2719011
Neanderthal is just the regional adaptation of Homo Heidelbergensis, wich originated in Africa and lived there up until 250K years.

[Anonymous No.2719039]

>>2719004
white pride

[Anonymous No.2719050]

>>2719028
They never developed Artistic thought

[Anonymous No.2719051]

>>2719004
>>2719039
>>2719028
The Neanderthal thing is pretty contentious. They didn't even sample enough people to determine anything yet.

And even if the relatedness was the case. Now they think is it more likely that the Neanderthals are just descended from the a group of Homo sapiens idaltu that happen to be the ones that contributed most to the northern population of Homo sapiens sapiens that became Eurasians.

Which is fucking disturbing, because that means that a race of nearly modern humans managed to degrade and adapt to its environment, rather than crush it beneath their heel.

The scum couldn't throw spears like us, they had less muscle even though they had denser bone, they were not as vicious, and they didn't withstand changes in climate(both hot and cold) as well as us. Fucking weaklings deserved the genocide they got.

He who lives in balance with nature does not deserve to call himself human.

[Anonymous No.2719052]

>>2719023
He was born in Hunan, a region inhabited by Miao-Yao people before the Han ethnicity took over, also look at a picture of him when he's in his twenties his nose is so much smaller

[Anonymous No.2719053]

>>2719023
somalian negro says hi

[Anonymous No.2719060]

>>2719039
world wide

[Anonymous No.2719070]

>>2719053

semithic people =/= niggers.

[Anonymous No.2719074]

>>2719051
Neanderthal most certainly had bigger muscles than Cro Magnon, and they were hypercarnivorous.
Saying that they were in any way inferior to Cro Magnon is the same as saying Africans are inferior to whites.

[Anonymous No.2719075]

>>2719070
somalian =/= semetic

[Anonymous No.2719078]

>>2719074
if whites descended from neanderthals and blacks from homo sapiens, then why do blacks have bigger muscles?

[Anonymous No.2719080]

>>2719075
Afro-Asiatic, Berber Arab Egyptian Somali. With varying degrees of Sub-Saharan admixture.

[Anonymous No.2719086]

>>2719078
African Americans have bigger muscles because they were selectively bred for generations. They were livestock for crying out loud.

[Anonymous No.2719093]

u jelly?

[Anonymous No.2719098]

>>2719078
it's not a black and white issue ( no pun intended )
As far as we even know right now Neanderthals would be best described as a subspecies of Homo Sapiens: Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis, or maybe not, we don't have enough data.

[Anonymous No.2719102]

>>2719093
>brain of nigger
>brain of human

[Anonymous No.2719103]

>>2719093
lol this is wrong on so many levels

[Anonymous No.2719109]

>>2719093
>>source: Coon,...

lol

[Anonymous No.2719115]

ill just leave this here

[Anonymous No.2719121]

[Anonymous No.2719123]

>>2719074
NO they had denser bone, but their muscle scars, the area of the bone where the muscles attached, were smaller and a few cm further from the end of the bone. This adaptation confers increased resistance to muscle strain, meaning they were less likely to sprain themselves, at the cost of slightly decreased strength for the same volume of muscle. The entire neanderthal body plane trades resiliance and robustness for a lack of endurance and raw strength.

Also because of their shoulder was put together they did not throw spears nearly was well, in exchange for a shoulder that was hard to separate and dislocate.

And they had a higher skull volume, despite not even having the technology that the idaltu had in Africa before them. And they displayed no change in their tool making for their entire existence. They were stupid, and unable to even grasp the concept of the bow, which sapiens invented long before they went extinct.

And no it looks unlikely that Neanderthals interbred, instead the genetic markers come from the idaltu groups that had split to form Neanderthal and the North African sapiens.

All the shit people say when talking about "niggers this and niggers that" actually applies to Neanderthals. They didn't deserve to exist in our world.

[Anonymous No.2719125]

>>2719078
whites aren't "desceded" from Neanderthals, the neanderthal ancestry present in Whites and Asians is as much Native American ancestry as I have. The only thing this does is make me look like I've been out in the sun once in a while when in fact I rarely go outside.

[Anonymous No.2719129]

it should show a pic of lagos city for the niggers....i mean niggers are stupid and violent but you should at least give them a fair shake.

[Anonymous No.2719133]

>>2719121
>shown uncut

[Anonymous No.2719134]

>>2719098
If two groups members can interbreed to make viable fertile offspring that can interbreed with the members of the original populations for 5 generations then they are the same species.

If the Neanderthals were actually able to interbreed, then they are Homo sapiens neanderthalus, and are a subspecies of Homo sapiens.

Being members of the same species however does not mean that Neanderthals deserved to exist. They were a stupid, weak people that died by the hands of their betters.

[Anonymous No.2719142]

[Anonymous No.2719148]

>>2719123
Homo Sapiens Groups who don't have new ideas introduced to them also rarely make any technological advancement. They were bred out as a new group came in and took their land.
How many distinct Native American groups do you think there would be right now if it weren't for extensive government protection?

[Anonymous No.2719157]

[Anonymous No.2719160]

>>2719134

[Anonymous No.2719183]

[Anonymous No.2719203]

here let me solve the debate once and for all, because it's obvious to those who are not super-tards:
all people look like monkeys.
different monkeys from different parts of the earth.
but we're closer related monkeys, but still with different roots that have converged.
because we can't stop hitting that hot, hairy monkey tang.

the only people who can't figure this out are aspies, and niggers.
good day /new/.

[Anonymous No.2719207]

[Anonymous No.2719219]

[Anonymous No.2719224]

>>2719134
Good luck finding any respectable anthropologist who will say that Neanderthals were weak.
It's been a consensus for decades that their
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEFoY-hoT4&feature=player_embedded#at=80

[Anonymous No.2719239]

>>2719134
just fucking watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEFoY-hoT4&feature=player_embedded#at=80

no respectable scientist will say Neandethals were weak

[Anonymous No.2719257]

>>2719148
Uh, buddy the natives genocided the fuck out of each other before the colonials ever fucked with them. They had constantly shifting alliances and weapons fell in and out of favor. The Iroquois Confederation smashed the Algonquins and pushed them west of the Mississippi, then they attacked and exterminated Susquehanna and the Erie and took huge swaths of Pennsylvania from them. These were the same tribes that had been their allies against the Algonquins and had similar cultures. Plenty of other Indian nations did the exact same thing, but the Iroquois had writing and left a record of it. They were proud or their imperialism, and they had a right to be so, they were strong. Then they allied with the British against the French and the Algonquins, and then split in support of the British and Americans.

Sapiens sapiens as a species continuously fights and alters its tools in response to its competitors. Nothing so fancy as making guns, but making arrow heads thinner or broader for different animal hides they need to penetrate. Making the arrows and spears thinner or thicker for different sizes of game as they migrate into ranges with different prey. The Neanderthals did nothing, their tools remained the same across an entire continent and didn't change at all. And they had to migrate north and south to follow the band of boreal forest they liked to live in, compared to us who just live everywhere from tundra to desert. And until we came they didn't even exhibit a lot of knocks in their ribs or smashed in skulls, they weren't murders like us. The weakness they displayed makes me want to spit in contempt.Even in the shit hole tropics where people are relative failures as civilizations they still go on night raids and wipe out entire villages while abducting or enslaving the women and children.

[Anonymous No.2719262]

>>2719134
>implying anyone deserves to exist.

Neanderthals had all of the genes necessary to form and interpret speech. They spoke just like you and I. They just spoke different languages.
As far as we know some words in modern european/asian languages share a common origin with Neanderthal words.

[Anonymous No.2719271]

[Anonymous No.2719276]

>>2718526
mfw when this is bullshit.
People became more advanced because the new situation involved more agriculture and less hunting or herding.

[Anonymous No.2719282]

>>2719239
>>2719239
Posts BBC.

I'll stick with what I've read in the Journal anthropology thank you very much, popular science faggot.

[Anonymous No.2719290]

[Anonymous No.2719299]

[Anonymous No.2719306]

lol u guys hate black people. i'm one step ahead of you, i hate ALL people.

[sage No.2719321]

>>2718373
Its evolution dumbshit, they have more gorilla/monkey-like features, cause they are more related to them then the Whites.

Black people were the first humans, and therefore the closests to apes.

\thread

[Anonymous No.2719324]

>>2719239
Limp wristed researchers try to make themselves to anybody that does exercise and they will look weak.

They need to get some field geologists in there.

Also the bowing of bones can be caused just by repetitive impact of strain. You want to look at the actual sites where the muscles attach on the ends of the bone.

Neanderthals are built to be tough, not strong. More muscles means more food is needed in a fairly meager environment. We get past that by just killing the shit out of everything and enslaving species as fodder. Neanderthals didn't work that way.

[Anonymous No.2719339]

[Anonymous No.2719340]

>>2719257
>implying any of that conflicts with my point

[Ặɳѻɲᴇxus !!qMPplrvyJzF No.2719343]

>>2719321
>more related to them then the Whites.
>to them then the
>then

I smell black people...

[Anonymous No.2719348]

>>2719343
I don't think they would say blacks are closer to apes.

[Ặɳѻɲᴇxus !!qMPplrvyJzF No.2719359]

>>2719348
I was quoting
>>2719321's grammar error.

[Anonymous No.2719369]

>>2719262
>european
Indo-Aryan Languages came from India genius. Neanderthals died out before the Indus civilization was born. Also genetics, doesn't tell you what language capabilities they had.

But they did have a voice box. I was quite crude and limited in comparision to ours but they could speak.

I don't know why you think that is important. I don't care if the Neanderthals could feel, speak, or think. They were still stupid in comparison to us.

There can be no equality when men are so completely unequal. I Neanderthals existed today they would be a permanent underclass of congenital morons or chattel slaves.

[Anonymous No.2719389]

>>2719369
>>Neanderthals existed today they would be a permanent underclass of congenital morons or chattel slaves.

o rly? i thought they would be master race?

[Anonymous No.2719399]

>>2719359
>>2719343
Congrats, you are fucking retarded!

[Anonymous No.2719413]

>>2719369
Actually the Indo-European languages are much more likely to have come from farther west than India. Anyone who says otherwise is a butthurt Indian who is butthurt about the ancestors of the Slavs conquering his people.

[Ặɳѻɲᴇxus !!qMPplrvyJzF No.2719426]

>>2719399
If I'm retarded, and you're the one making the
spelling errors...aren't you worse than retarded?

[Anonymous No.2719447]

>>2719369
You don't seem to know shit about historical linguistics. Languages don't just spontaneously pop up somewhere.

[Anonymous No.2719482]

>>2719447
No, but they can be traced. The European languages picked up things from all over, but the route grammar sources are greece and indus.

[Anonymous No.2719503]

>>2719482
>implying we know diddly fucking squat about the indus valley language

[Anonymous No.2719542]

>>2719482
all we really know is that the indus civilization was most likely Dravidian. And that the Aryan invaders from the northwest fucking pwned them.

[Anonymous No.2719566]

shitty thread is shitty, sage please

[Anonymous No.2719612]

Race is the final taboo for science. Most scientists wont touch the subject with a ten foot pole because any results will be ignored by people who refuse to believe race exists. That or they will be labeled as racist which in our society is like being excommunicated. The reason race is so poorly understood is because people are afraid to study it.

[Anonymous No.2719636]

>>2719612

That's because of past instances where science was abused in order to oppress various races. People are afraid that that might happen again.

[Anonymous No.2719885]

>>2719566
the cool thing about sage is that it doesn't do shit