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Alternative Energy Concepts:

So listens guys. We just have to drill deep into the earth, very deep, until we reach the very hot areas.

We use that heat to boil water, which generates a dynamo.

Energy Problem: Solved

>> No.2710293

You'd better start fucking drilling.

>> No.2710309

i.e. geothermal energy, i.e. not a new concept

A large part of Iceland's energy comes from geothermal power plants. It's not viable in most places because you'd have to drill to ridiculous depths to reach the magma.

>> No.2710312

Congrats. You have discovered geothermal energy.

>> No.2710316

The reason why geothermal energy won't work is you'd drill into the inside surface of the earth and fall through, disturbing their inner civilization and disrupting the balance.

>> No.2710317
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>start drilling
>steam starts coming out
>keep drilling
>steam spews out with magma soon after
>magma spews up to ionosphere
>disrupts the ionosphere characteristics
>changes in solar wind
>the core keeps spewing out and earth starts to move according to newton's 2nd law (action vs reaction)
>earth moves out of the orbit and flies into space
>perma-iceage
>no life on earth
>forever alone
>in space

>> No.2710334

>>2710317

Wow...way to shoot down OP.

>> No.2710350

If you can dig deep enough go ahead. I think the farthest down anyone has ever dug is something like 6-10 km or some minscule portion like that. That's barely enough to get through the edge of the crust let alone into a portion that is hot enough to power a power plant. And how would you propose to do such a thing in a populated area? A viable energy source, but not feasible.

>> No.2710377

>>2710317
>forever alone
>in space

Just where do you think we live? In space, dumbass. The Earth is a big rock that's floating through space. That aside, it would take an obscene amount of force to move the Earth via geological forces. You would pretty much need to discharge continents out into space. I don't see it happening.

>> No.2710396

>>2710377

>That aside, it would take an obscene amount of force to move the Earth via geological forces.

He doesn't know that the quake in Japan changed the Earth's axis by four inches, and moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet closer to China.

laughinggeologists.png

>> No.2710404

>>2710396
>he thinks that moving the thin pacific plate is on the same order of magnitude as moving a planet
>laughing_elementary_physicists.jpg

>> No.2710406

>>2710396
Some spots moved over 13ft.

>> No.2710410
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>>2710317
>magma spews up to ionosphere
>disrupts the ionosphere characteristics
>changes in solar wind
>earth starts to move

Are you retired?

>> No.2710420

It's called Geothermal Power my young troll and the only reason no one suggests it despite all the drilling equipment we have is that it's too fucking simple.

There may also be a few location problems but that's just a matter of 'digger deeper or not as deep as that other one'.

Also you don't dig into the mantle, just near it.

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>>2710293
Easy task.

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2710485

It is true that by shining a U.V light on to zinc metal you will emit electrons, which is beta radiation.
So in a hypothetical situation where you worked behind the bar (which was coated in zinc or another such metal) in a nightclub that used ultra-violet lighting. The you developed Cancer, would you have justification to sue them for giving you cancer due to radiation?

pic related, the photoelectric effect

>> No.2710510

>>2710485
No.. And what does this have to do with the threads topic? You won't ever get cancer from electrons and even if you did, you'd have no way to prove it came from that counter. You get hit with a vast number of electrons every second.

>> No.2710766

guys guys guys

I got an idea, lets use nuclear material to melt a hole in the ground to reach the magma, should be more economical then drilling.

>> No.2710777

>>2710766
you can't solve all your problems by melting holes through them with nuclear materials

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>>2710777
YES YOU CAN.

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>> No.2710825

>>2710806
>>2710815
Disturbing satire is disturbing

>> No.2710833

>>2710806
well, it is our unofficial motto....

>> No.2710839

/sci/
"you can solve all your problems by melting holes through them with nuclear material"

>> No.2710880

>>2710317
>the core keeps spewing out and earth starts to move according to newton's 2nd law (action vs reaction)

I'm going to assume you were flexible with the truth for comedic effect here.

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>a dynamo?
a steam turbine more likely?

>> No.2710924
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why don't we like, just reduce the amount of energy we use guys?
when demand starts to drop fuel price with drop as well.

>> No.2710930

>>2710924
You do that.
But I like the Internet, and my chicken for lunch.

>> No.2710944

>>2710930
don't panic dude! no ones trying to take things away from you man.
you can still have the net man.
its all about making things more efficient and perfect.
why waste power, when you can use it.

>> No.2710947

How about we all just listen to this guy:

http://vimeo.com/8194089

>All the world's power needs taken care of with two Olympic sided swimming pools worth of water.

>> No.2710954

>>2710944
You'll never do more than a factor of 2 that way. And with China and India coming up to first-world level, power use needs to increase a hell of a lot more than that.

Maybe the US and Europe can be fairly OK just with efficiency increases. But their population hasn't peaked quite yet, although growth is decelerating.

>> No.2710958

>>2710947
Yeah, get back to me when we have commercial fusion power. In the meantime, we have practical matters to address.

>> No.2710959

>>2710944
i'm with the hippy.
if i charge my Ipod for a hour i expect a weeks worth of play back at least.
efficiency is key.

>> No.2710971

>>2710959
>implying what you said has ANYTHING to do with energy efficiency
LOL
That could be inefficient as fuck as long as
1) the batter is high density
2) and charges quickly (high current)

>> No.2710972

>>2710317

I can't believe no one noticed this retards complete lack of understanding of Newtons laws.

Equal and opposite force would apply relative to the system of EARTH. Nothing that happens in the earth can cause it to move out of orbit and shoot it out of our solar system. It would require external forces. I know this and I'm only taking high school physics.

And that guy loses all credibility, ie., stop posting.

>> No.2710981

>>2710404
You sir, are an idiot. Yes actually, it is. Go fuck yourself now.

>> No.2710982

the internet is a drain of resources.
the servers generates a lot of excess heat energy, is there anyway to harness this energy?

>> No.2710993

>>2710982
Yes. Heat engines.

Although the REALLY interesting designs use it has a heat source for water, air, etc. for the building. Not the only source, but it helps.

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2710995

>assuming we can't just go to hell's gate and harvest infinite energy from there

>> No.2711002

energy efficiency is alot more realistic than drilling a hole into the earth.

>> No.2711004

>>2710972
wow, you really are dumb.

yea i guess all those nuke bomb tests never really did alter the earth's orbit. and those all those massive earthquakes never really did alter the position of the earth's axis. fucking physicists, what a joke.

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2711014

Needs more magnets.

>> No.2711015
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Boreholes all up ITT!!!!

/sci/ = Alpha Centauri = /sci/

>> No.2711016

>>2711004
Stop trolling, please. And I'm not even the guy you're trolling.

>> No.2711018

>>2711002
in hippy libtard land, MAYBE. in reality, no.

>> No.2711022

>>2711015
No, you will be ATTACK BY MINDWORMS

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>>2711014
proble, clown?

>> No.2711038

>>2711004

You're changing matter into energy and *gasp* guess what? New energy in the system (external force). That can change an orbit, but only very very minutely. To the point where it doesn't matter.

The guy was talking about magma leaking out of the middle of the planet and causing an orbit shift.

If you aren't that guy, please leave. There are enough tards on sci.

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>>2710995

>> No.2711059

to reduce your energy bills at home do you;

a) check all the suppliers for the lowest deal
b) attempt to reduced the energy wasted in your home.
c)sell up and move to commune.
d)build your own power station.
e)install a windmill.

>> No.2711067

>>2711059
You fag, nobody here has there own home.
were still all living with are parents.

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>>2711067

>> No.2711136

>>2710291
>We use that heat to boil water, which generates a dynamo.

Steam has about 4 times the effect of CO2 on the climate. First you get a tropical heat and then an Ice Age.

>> No.2711143

<span class="math">\[\int\limits_{1}^{\infty}1/(\tan \Theta)d \Theta = \Pi\][/spoiler]

>> No.2711145

>>2711059
f) nuclear fusion in your microwave

>> No.2711155

>>2711136
although i have my doubts about that, who says you have to release the steam into the environment? just make the system circular and as the steam rises it'll cool and re-condense.

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made this one at home
u mad? jelly?

>> No.2711175

>>2711164
how are the balls supposed to go around the wheel?

>> No.2711185

>>2711175
The balls are made out of Flubber, which bounces higher with every bounce.

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>>2710316
Oh god this, 100,000,000 times this. There ain't just lizard men down there OP, there's the Mole People, Atlantis, the lost tribes of Israel, and all sorts of weird shit you DO NOT want to unearth. Leave that shit alone man, just walk away.

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>> No.2712922

"The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame."

>> No.2713009

creates earthquakes when done on the crust, when you drill even further it will seriously fuck things up with the whole plate tectonics concept.

>> No.2715191

Start your digging here and you has a head start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole

>> No.2715201

>>2713009
no worries. we'll have so much energy that we could create floating hovercraft cities! earthquake proof!