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2709162 No.2709162 [Reply] [Original]

Any britfags on today?

I need to choose my A-Levels for September (yes, underage). I wanna know what experience you guys have with the Further Maths A-Level - specifically, how hard it is. Maybe I'm just not confident enough (I am good at maths) but the way people talk about it makes it sound scarily difficult.

Also - Physics. Piss easy at GCSE, but I've heard that at A-Level, a lot like FM, some people just never manage to 'get' the material. I've also heard a lot of people say it's much harder than FM.

So basically, what was your experience with these subjectS?

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2709189

both are fukk'hen awesome

do it, faggot.

>> No.2709218 [DELETED] 

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>> No.2709234

>>2709162
Choose Physics if you have an IQ of 150 over above.
Take Maths because that shit is the bomb.

>> No.2709260 [DELETED] 

ump

>> No.2709273

The pace of further maths classes prepare you very well for the step up in pace to university if that's your aim. It also teaches more maths than you'll ever need, unless you study maths/physics at university.

Didn't take a-level physics, if you're taking further maths, you'll walk it.

>> No.2709301

I never understood how all this stuff worked. I've heard brits talk about their educational system before and I have no idea what all this A-Level stuff means. But to be honest, it sounds just like any high school here in America. You take alg, the geometry, then trig, then calc. What's the difference over there?

>> No.2709320

physics, chemistry, further maths and biology = instant university offer

>> No.2709344

>>2709301
A-Level are the qualifications you do from 16-18 years old ie just before you leave school. It is split into two years: AS and A2, in that order. Most subjects consist of two exams each year, one in the winter and one in summer. You get a total at the end of each year and a full A-level at the end of the second year, with A* being the highest grade.

>> No.2709375

>>2709344
It sounds exactly like any old class. In my highschool during your last two years you took classes, had midterms and finals and got grades there A+ was the highest grade. What type of courses do you even take?

>> No.2709385

>>2709375
You can do pretty much anything. Economics, Maths, Physics, Chemistry, Photography (gay), Art (gay)

>> No.2709394

>>2709385
So then why do you guys treat it like its something special? It just seems like taking regular classes? Does it mean something special to universities?

>> No.2709409

>>2709394
It is just regular classes... you can carry on subjects you learnt about when you were 11, just A-level is much harder than anything you've done before and they decide whether or not you go to university.

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>>2709394

>So then why do you guys treat it like its something special? It just seems like taking regular classes?

>> No.2709419

>>2709162
Underage b& also counts for sfw boards.
Reported.

>> No.2709431

>>2709409
It can't be that hard though. It's just high school. I took physics, chem, calc, all that good stuff and I was never once challenged. Just take the hardest of everything.

>> No.2709450

>>2709431
How old were you when you took these things? Here's some chemistry for when you're 17:
http://pastpapers.org/A2/chemistry/chains/2005_Jan_2814.pdf

>> No.2709456

I passed A level physics with a C. I'm fairly intelligent but don't put much work in. I am doing a degree in aeronautical engineering now.

>> No.2709462

>>2709450
actually that's not a great example. It's quite easy.

>> No.2709498

Scottish guy doing English A-level here. I thought A-level was going to be much harder than it actually is. If you feel confident, take Further Maths. I wish I had because the straight A-level isn't really challenging.

>> No.2709504

Physics A-level was piss when I did it 5 years ago, the way things are going it's probably even easier now.

>> No.2709510

Further Maths makes the normal Maths A-level seem so, so easy. Further Maths is fairly hard actually, some bits introduce you to first year Uni topics I believe (matrices in FP1 for example (although only up to 3x3)).

Physics I'd say is harder than Maths, but not as hard as FM. It's really only harder for me because you have to learn the extra theory. The Maths used in Physics is actually pretty straight-forward.

If you like Maths, then you may want to give Further Maths a try. If you absolutely hate it then you can always change next year :-)

(Captcha: Education)

>> No.2709529

>>2709504

So it was piss for you, but how "smart" would you say you are? How did you compare to your peers? No bullshitting please, just trying to get an accurate picture of the difficulty level.

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Physics is a walk in the park if you're smart and apply yourself.
I don't take further maths, only regular, and that's pretty hard. Then again maths isn't my strong point. Of the people I know who took further maths (about 15) only 2 of them find it really difficult.
All A levels are harder than GCSE. I breezed through GCSE with practically no work, got a few 100%s, and thought A level would be the same. It isn't impossible but you have to do some actual work outside the classroom from time to time.

>>2709394
Until recently, the last two years (the A level years) were optional and not everybody took them, with lots of people leaving school and getting jobs etc. Over the past ten years or so more and more people have been doing them so it isn't as special any more. I'm in my last year and starting with the year group a few below mine, A levels will be made compulsory, so it will be much more like the US system (as I understand it)

>> No.2709594

Same amerifag here. What is further math? What type of math does that entail?

>> No.2709603

>>2709594

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_Mathematics#List_of_the_areas_of_study_on_the_syllabus

>> No.2709634

>>2709603
That seems slightly more advanced than what my school offered. Maybe like half a semester more. However my school was not advanced at all. I took all 5 math classes it offered and passed each with flying colors.

>> No.2709650

>>2709162

Take further maths: it will be a *big* advantage if you're thinking of doing anything like maths, physics or comp sci at any decent university. It's very hard to get into one of those courses at Oxbridge if you don't have it. The level of the work is only slightly higher than that of normal maths; there were plenty of fairly average students in my FM class who were all able to understand the material.

>>2709301

They're special because you only take a small number of subjects (usually 3 or 4) and that's all you do for the last two years school. No subject is mandatory. They're also what universities base their entrance requirements on. A-levels are like normal high school classes, AP and SATs rolled into one.

You'd think that would mean they were especially rigorous and challenging, but they're not.

>> No.2709673

Further Maths (4 years ago, at least) is no harder than regular maths, it's just the other modules ie you'll take Core 1-4 and stat 1 &2 on your maths, and if you take further maths you'll take mechanics and decision modules also Decision is incredibly easy and is literally a case of memorising definitions.
Physics is genuinely interesting but a big step up from GCSE. If you like any science though, you should take physics.

>> No.2709677

>>2709673
I have no idea what happened to my punctuation there. Sorry for the incomprehensibility.

>> No.2709696

>>2709673

Varies with exam boards and schools.
I don't do decision, I do S2, M2 and M3 (could've chosen S3). We do S1 and M1 in normal Maths here.

>> No.2709701

(also choosing mine) I chose: Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Art

>> No.2709706

>>2709650
Wisdom. If you want to do a science or maths at Uni then take it. Not only will it vastly increase your chances of getting in, it will make your first year at uni much easier

>> No.2709708

>>2709701
When do you learn english and history and stuff?

>> No.2709714

year 13 student here doing physics, maths and biology.

definitly take physics its the hardest of the three but in my opinion the most worthwhile. maths is easier but only enjoyable if you actually like maths. but even if you dont like maths and are good at it take it anyway

>> No.2709721

>>2709714
i got A* in all my GCSE's and i am currently getting high B's if you want something to compare to. i am lazy as fuck though. if you arent naturally much smarter than most of you peers be prepared to work hard.

>> No.2709726

>>2709708

At GCSE when you're 15/16. You do mandatory maths, science and english and a load of other subjects of your choosing like history, french, german, art, music etc. making about 9-12 GCSEs in total. You can take humanities and languages subjects at A-Level as well.

>> No.2709739

>>2709708

He doesn't any more. *All* subjects become optional after 16.

Personally, I disagree with this. Whilst it helps people to save a lot of time if they're completely sure of what they want to do, it fails to take into account that 15/16 year-olds are very fickle and may regret their 3/4 choices. The British education system would be far better if the more academically able students did IB instead of A-levels.

>> No.2709757

>>2709721
>All A*
>now getting B

thefuckiswrongwithyou.bat

>> No.2709767

>>2709739
Yeah I thought choosing psychology and German would be a good idea. How wrong I was...

>> No.2709771

>>2709726

I fear you might be misleading him.

What you did was what most university-bound students did, but don't make it sound like every student does that. Some, especially at crappier schools, don't take any GCSEs. Some take a few, but none in any of the subjects you said were mandatory.

Five GCSEs at grades A* to C, including maths and English, would probably be a rough equivalent of a high school diploma in the US.

>> No.2709775

>>2709757
>implying this doesn't happen to virtually everyone
>implying I didn't jump from 97% at GCSE to a low D grade in maths at A level
>implying I am not currently at oxford

>> No.2709779

>>2709708
Doing my GCSE's now [already done my maths GCSE a year early and got A* :3] and I'm doing: Additional maths, Physics, Art, Biology, English lit, English lang, French, Religion, Technology and Design.

>> No.2709785

So from what I'm getting:
A-levels = AP courses for us amerifags

They're still basically introduction college courses, I don't understand why you all think your super speshul.

>> No.2709792

>>2709775
>implying I didn't work hard at GCSE to get 11 A*
>implying I don't still work hard to get A* A* A A
>implying A level students are lazy
>implying implications

>> No.2709795

>>2709721
>>2709757
On the opposite scale I got mostly Bs in GCSE, and I'm now getting A*s in A-level further maths and physics.

Got an A in GCSE physics and 100% in the first A2 unit, barely scraped an A* in GCSE maths and got 97% in A-level maths (did it in a year too).

I have worked harder, but not much.
At GCSE I didn't revise, full stop.
At A-level I might do 4 hours of textbook flicking the day before, and I probably do about 1 hour per subject per week outside of lesson from homeworks etc.

Make of that what you will.

>> No.2709799

>>2709767

There's nothing wrong with German as an A-level choice, besides the fact that A-levels in languages don't require any kind of fluency.

Of course, for taking psychology, you should be shot. When I was in sixth form, I knew one girl who took it and then dropped it after a few weeks because she had no idea that she'd have do deal with basic statistics. I don't think her story was unique, either.

>> No.2709801

>>2709785
For a start, we can spell.

>> No.2709802

>>2709726
This sounds like not a good system to me. You can't have enough time to learn everything by the time you're 15-16. Heck I had to take 3 years of history in my school to get from ancient greece to modern times. And how do you learn enough english? When do you learn how to write good research papers and when do you read harder books? This A-level stuff sounds like it tries to give you lots of depth in a few subjects, but you get very little breadth. Highschool should be about breadth, college should be about depth.

>> No.2709808

>>2709757
>>2709757
i did say i was lazy. plus i have a scholarship to get on a course than usually required AAA with BBB grades instead. why should i work harder than i have to.

>> No.2709810

>>2709801
He obviously intended to spell it wrong on purpose. Also, ignore that faggot. Let's not turn this into a Europe vs. America thread. This is /sci/ not /b/.

>> No.2709812

>>2709795
Also to answer your initial question no further maths is not that difficult.
I managed 97% in FP2 which is apparently the hardest module, a lot of my usually able friends came out with Cs.
Hate the applied modules though.

>> No.2709815

>>2709799
Don't mean to sound arrogant, but I'm quite smart. For that reason I don't think psychology suits me; in other subjects I'm surrounded by hard-working, intelligent people. In psychology I'm working with people who just want a pass in an A level.

>> No.2709818

>>2709785
well then americans are all mega genius and britfags are all retarded idiots if thats what you want to hear.

>> No.2709821

>>2709792
>implying it was implicitly implied the implications mentioned were made
>implying I am not arguing that the step up is harder than people expect
Anyone who's smart and not pushed through GCSE will be able to intuitively do a load of the maths and science. A level slaps their shit, and on core 1 grades are shit. The year I left the school I was at gave up entirely on sitting core 1 in january, and just did it with core 2 in summer.

>> No.2709822

>>2709802

>When do you learn how to write good research papers and when do you read harder books?
>depth

These things happen at university.

>> No.2709825

>>2709810
the speshul was probably intentional, but I'm not sure the 'your' was

>> No.2709829

>>2709802
We start out with many subjects, break them down into less choices [most personal some mandatory - English, Maths, P.E., religion] and then at 16/17 we get to break it down further to 3 or 4 subjects to take to AS and then the next year, we take those same 3/4 subjects to A2 at 17/18.

>> No.2709830

>>2709785

When did we say we were super speshul? We're aware that A-levels are no longer a gold standard in education, due to governments dumbing down the curriculum so that everyone could get into university.

And they aren't the equivalent of APs. The difficulty is roughly similar, but their role in the educational system is completely different. That's what's special about them: the fact that they're so important in the British system. There's nothing special about what is studied.

>> No.2709834

>>2709162
I hope you know already, but please heed my advice.

Work your ARSE off at your A-levels.

Please don't take this lightly.

>> No.2709841

>>2709834
>Labour made A-levels as easy as gcse were 15 years ago
>Work
>Nope

>> No.2709843

>>2709802

You're right.

Unfortunately, this is how British education works and it's hard to change something so deeply ingrained.

>> No.2709861

>>2709841
>[citation needed]
I've done O levels and the GCSE equivalents were tougher. I don't think there's any basis for this kind of thing.

>> No.2709863

>>2709841

No, he's right.

A-levels are easy, but if you get into the habit of just doing enough to get an A, you'll be fucked at uni. A-level students should learn their entire syllabuses inside out and go for 100% in exams, as well as reading outside of the syllabus in the subject they want to study at uni.

>> No.2709873

>>2709834
it depends on how smart you are naturally. just dont fuck up your january exams in year 12. most of my friends did and its a massive kick in the teeth.

>> No.2709877

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11342847

School league tables mean schools want the easiest exam boards so their school's performance seems better. For the exam boards to be able to compete, they have to dumb down their requirements = grade inflation and super lightweight subjects.

>> No.2709881

>>2709861
O/1O

>> No.2709893

>>2709877
tell that to AQA A-level physics. plus some schools intentionally pick harder exam boards because university prefer students who achieve using the more difficult boards.

>> No.2709904

>>2709861

>I've done O levels

Are you 50, or did you go on that shitty Channel 4 reality TV show were kids did O-levels for two weeks and the audience was supposed to come to some conclusion about the relative difficulties of the two courses?

>> No.2709916

>>2709904
My mother's a retired deputy head, she had a load of papers from 1972 in physics/history/english/chemistry

>> No.2709928

>>2709893
My school is CCEA :3

>> No.2709930

>>2709893

Try comparing a foreign language exam from AQA to one from OCR. The difference in difficulty is massive.

Also, the effect of the league tables is more towards encouraging Micky Mouse subjects. Hell, league tables are the main reason why General Studies exists.

This is why I quite like Gove's "English bac" idea (inb4 mindless hate because he's a Tory). It makes it much harder for schools to pull this shit, at least at GCSE level.

>> No.2709944

>>2709830

>hurr durr theyre the same but ours are better

A-Level= AP courses
get over it

>> No.2709945

>>2709930
OCR don't deserve to be counted as qualifications.

>> No.2709946

>>2709930
Given the ineptitudfe of most of the students in my class more of them should have taken general studies

>> No.2709949

>>2709930
>impying i would go to school for anything other than science.

>> No.2709954

>>2709944

>intentionally misunderstanding the point I was making

I'm going to assume you're a troll from now on

>> No.2709964

>>2709944
Stop being a faggot. And no it isn't the same. They take 4 courses a year, we as americans generally take 8 courses. Besides AP courses are nothing special. They barely count for a first semester class in college. You spend an entire year in an AP class and it can barely cover what you might learn in 4 months in a 101 college class.

>> No.2709967

>>2709954

Once you get to college you'll accept the truth, young one.

>> No.2709982

>>2709967

0/10

You're not even trying any more. Please stop, lest you make your fellow countrymen look like they have the reading comprehension of the average creationist.

>> No.2709983

>>2709964

Exactly, the American AP courses round a person and ready them for college. High school isn't about specialization yet, it's still basic general education. I'm agreeing with the anon that previously stated that AP courses and A-level courses are roughly the same. Differences will be had, of course, due to the education style difference but they are still intrinsically the same- introduction college courses.

>> No.2709988

I got 6A*s and 4As at GCSE.
4 As last year.

Currently doing A2 and gotten a place at Imperial College.

Maths itself is easy, however you need to practice a lot even if you're quite good at it naturally. With enough practice getting an A or A* (which you want) is doable. Further Maths is harder, amd unless you're good at Maths I wouldn't recommend taking it as the extra work will be tough to handle. Do it if you're confident your ability in Maths is decent. If you can get an A* at GCSE that should be enough. Universities also really like it.

The only 'scary' sort of Maths exams are the STEP and AEA papers, which actually require you to be clever in terms of Mathematical ability, but only the top maybe 5% of applicants in Maths actually take these exams, so you shouldn't worry.

>> No.2709992

>The only 'scary' sort of Maths exams are the STEP and AEA papers, which actually require you to be clever in terms of Mathematical ability, but only the top maybe 5% of applicants in Maths actually take these exams, so you shouldn't worry.

>mfw lots of lecturers at top unis don't know what AEAs are

>> No.2710001

>>2709982

>i have no rebuttle so i'll just assume he's a troll

i'm being dead serious...AP course ARE the same. nobody in their right mind takes 6-7 AP courses and can still manage to get decent scores on all of them. the "good" colleges in the US only accept perfect scores anyways and disregard anything lower than them. stop boosting your ego, everyone's back at square one come undergrad.

>> No.2710006

>>2709988
what are your other subjects?

>> No.2710009

>>2709992
What? They're just papers that you do if you're taking maths at university, and they ask you to do them if it coincides with your offer. If you're not taking maths at university then you don't even have to worry about them

>> No.2710019

>>2710006
Physics and chemistry.
Chemistry is memorization for AQA.
Physics is tough, you need to actually understand the material well if you want a good grade, unlike chemistry. But this is for OCR, so it might not be the same.

>> No.2710040

>>2710019
are you doing aeronautical engineering?

>> No.2710051

>>2710001

I don't need a rebuttal (it's not "rebuttle", you fucking retard). I had given a rebuttal and you had refused to acknowledge it, instead accusing me of saying things I had never said. I never said they were "better". No-one said they were better. I never said the content was substantially different. I said that their role within the British education system was very different from the role of AP within the American education system.

I hope that you're trolling, because if this very simple concept is hard for you to understand, you should go back to /b/.

>> No.2710070

>>2710009

I merely find it funny that some people take AEA and then get told by people at universities "I don't know what that is".

>> No.2710084 [DELETED] 

>>2709830

what other role is there besides preparing a student for college? enlighten me, A-Level scholar.

>> No.2710101

>>2710051

what other role is there besides preparing a student for college? you still have yet to provide a reason in all your previous posts. enlighten me, a-level scholar.

>> No.2710137

Ucas points tariff (used by universities when accepting candidates in the UK);

Advanced Placement Programme (US & Canada)
Group A
5 120
4 90
3 60
Group B
5 50
4 35
3 20

GCE A level

A* - 140
A - 120
B - 100
C - 80
D - 60
E - 40

Scottish Advanced Higher (what we have in Scotland);

A - 130
B - 110
C - 90
D - 72

>> No.2710150

>>2710084

Is there any point in trying to tell you? You seem determined to ignore everything I say and instead accuse me of saying things I haven't said. The fact that you're getting so butthurt suggests that you have some massive chip on your shoulder; it's as if you want someone to say that British schools are tougher than American ones just so that you can complain. Unfortunately, no-one is doing that.

I have told you the differences already. Universities base their entrance requirements on them. When you apply to university, they accept or reject you based on A-level results. As far as I know, American universities base their entrance requirements mainly on things other than AP.

They are also the only thing you do in the last two years of school. The only fucking thing. They aren't some special elective courses that count towards college credits and they aren't designed to give any special level of preparation beyond that standard high-school syllabus. They are the high-school syllabus. They aren't "college level" courses either. AP is advertised as being college level work. A-levels are not. You will be expected to have already done everything on the A-level syllabus when you start university.

As it happens, I'm starting to think that A-levels might be "better". If you were able to do AP courses, they must be really fucking easy.

>> No.2710226

>>2710040
Nope.
Maths with CS.

>> No.2710244

>>2710150
I'm not the person you responded to but you have to remember that a Bachelor's in the US is 4 years, but in the UK they are only 3.
I've heard that the majority of first year of university in the US is of a similar standard to A-level work.

So I don't know about being more difficult, more likely that they are broader.

>> No.2710246

>>2710150

AP courses are graded also. you get the AP score (one national, cumulative exam that is administered end semester) that determines whether you get college credit and jump out of the 101 courses your first year. you also get graded throughout the year like a normal class that goes into your base GPA. US colleges look at AP scores, classes you took, extra curricular activities, GPA, plus entrance exams that we take.

stop being so ethnocentric and egotistical. a-level's in britain hold the same base value as AP courses in the us. deal with it.

>> No.2710263

>>2710246
You are misunderstanding his point, his point is that A-levels are the ONLY thing that you do in the last 2 years of school in the UK, whereas AP courses are extra.
A-levels aren't studied on top of your other work, they ARE your work. That's all you do.
We don't really have any special courses like you do in the US because it would be unfair to people without access to them.

>> No.2710297

>>2709162
Doing those three at A2 currently. Beware that there is quite a big jump from GCSE to A level in maths.
Further maths becomes quite difficult, although this can depend on what units you take. I walked through GCSE with no revision but actually had to work for my summer exams in A level, it gets a lot harder. People like >>2709795 exist but are in the minority, most people have to revise hard for A level, especially for the tougher further maths units. Your general maths skills have to be sharper as well, you have to be comfortable manipulating algebra and using formulas as there are easy marks on exams for skills like these. Please don't be put off by this though, A grades are not particularly difficult if you can handle the material. Also, Further maths is certainly respected by Universities, especially if you are applying for a maths or science related degree. If you enjoy maths in general and think it will help with your University application I would go for it.

Physics, to me, just felt like an extension of the GCSE syllabus although I really made a mess of my Jan exam I'm finding it pretty easy and will easily get an A grade overall.

>> No.2710321

>>2710263

and i see that and have no problem with that. i'm just saying that we do full range general education in our 4 years of high school. AP classes take the place of the regular level courses. you have your AP's (however many you decide to take) plus the rest of your courses. both a-levels and AP's heavily decide college admittance and will prepare one for college. that seems as a basis for the same functionality for me.

also, everyone in the US has access to AP courses. private and public schools both have them and every school is administered a nationally regulated exam to determine scores.

>> No.2710332

>>2710246

You really are fucking retarded, aren't you?

>US colleges look at AP scores, classes you took, extra curricular activities, GPA, plus entrance exams that we take.

British universities look at your A-level results and predictions. Nothing else. That means their role is different.

>you also get graded throughout the year like a normal class that goes into your base GPA

That doesn't happen at A-level. There is no GPA here and your exams and coursework (one extended piece of written work per year, if your A-level has coursework) are all you're graded on. Another difference.

>you get the AP score (one national, cumulative exam that is administered end semester) that determines whether you get college credit and jump out of the 101 courses your first year

Your A-level result doesn't let you skip anything. It lets you get into university in the first place. How the fuck is that the same thing?

You have presented three aspects of the AP and all of them are areas in which they differ from A-levels in their function within their country's education system. Your argument that A-levels are the same as AP would have been greatly weakened by your post if it weren't for the fact that it had no basis to begin with.

>stop being so ethnocentric and egotistical

How the fuck is it ethnocentric and egotistical to say what I have said, especially when I am right? You're ethnocentric for assuming that British education works the same way as American education. It doesn't.

I tell you what, I'm going to indulge you:

I think British people are smarter than Americans.

You've obviously been waiting for someone to say that, and I bet you had a wall of text ready for the occasion. Go on, post your rant about those arrogant limey bastards. Then, when you've satisfied your inferiority complex, fuck off and stop shitting up this thread with your constant bitching over incredibly minor issues.

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>>2710332

>> No.2710356

>>2710349

Yes, yes I am visibly upset.

>> No.2710414

>>2709162
Just finishing my A-Levels. Further maths and physics are great. If you get the chance take the, harder, mechanics further maths modules. (Fuck statistics).

Physics A-level is easier than AS, just because there is more maths and less memory required. Maths is still shit easy though; herp derp rearrange this formula...

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>>2710246

4/10

>> No.2710898

Both physics and further maths are hard but easily doable if you're good at maths and you're willing to do extra work. In my opinion, i'd say further maths is harder because you'd be doing things that sometimes require knowledge from modules you'll do in your second year of core maths. For example i'm currently doing FP2 and there's alot of C3/C4 things you have to go over before you can learn some of the stuff in FP2, as it has things like first and second order differential equations, taylor and maclaurin series. If you're up for a challenge take both but expect to be under pressure because they'd look really good on your uni application (implying you pass them)

>> No.2710933

Might depend on the exam board, but I've done both on OCR. Both are piss easy, and the grade boundaries for Physics are incredibly low.

>> No.2711044

Ignore people who said they're hard. As long as you're not lazy as shit or half a retard they're not difficult at all.
Maths is piss, Further Maths is too. Physics isn't particularly tough either if you can do basic arithmatic.

I did my Maths on MEI. OCR exams tend to be hardest because OCR is run by Oxbridge.