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UPDATE: The building housing the No. 3 core of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant has just exploded. Prior to this explosion, plutonium leaked into the core. "The addition of Pu-239 to the potential Fallout mix, should it occur, will definitely make matters worse. The scenario for mixing into the lower levels of the atmosphere and drifting to other areas remain the same – except in this case, there would be longer lasting particles that would be distributed and dispersed."

Hold on to your butts.

>> No.2699177

Longer lasting = less energetic

>> No.2699190

>>2699177
less energetic but enough to cause cancer

cya guys im moving to alaska

>> No.2699194

>>2699113
POSTING THIS IN EVERY FUKUSHIMA THREAD2

>> No.2699208

>>2699190
Isn't that closer to Japan?

>> No.2699219

>>2699190
>In an attempt to avoid radiation from Japan,move closer to Japan.

>> No.2699235

PATROLLING THE MOJAVE DESERT MAKES YOU ALMOST WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER

>> No.2699319

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRY61nmCPAE

>> No.2699329

Aren't these explosions just pressure releases going boom?

The containment hasn't been breached at all, I don't understand how this media "fallout" scenario is supposed to happen.

>> No.2699337

I can't find anything on another explosion since the one about an hour ago.

>> No.2699352

A spokesperson from the Tokyo Electric Power Corporation specifically stated that the reactor vessel was not in any way damaged.

Stop crying wolf.

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2699361

>>2699235
I lost it.

>> No.2699376

god i hope this think just melts down already i'm fucking sick of seeing 10 new threads every time a chip of paint peels off the damn thing

>> No.2699389

Instant rage:

https://www.facebook.com/michiokaku/posts/10150163297661203

>> No.2699404
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2699404

nuclear reactors != nukes

>> No.2699407

LOL YOU SAID PU

>> No.2699408

>>2699376
If it did meltdown you'd only see even more threads.

>>2699389
I... nukes?... WHAT?

>> No.2699418

>>2699408
The comments are even better

>> No.2699424

>...to the potential Fallout mix, should it occur,

>implying it can occur

the giant encasements of concrete they build around nuclear power plants are not just for show. Even if a core were to melt down, it would be completely contained.

>> No.2699428

>>2699418
I was always lenient with him... thought "it's okay, he's just a popularizer"... but this board keeps exposing retarded shit that he says... christ jesus

>> No.2699433

>>2699424

Assuming it did get out of the concrete contaiment area, there is no way in hell it would ever effect any of us on this side of the world since nobody on this board is japanese

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2699432

>>2699424
>>it would be completely contained.

unless of course it somehow caused and explosion.

>> No.2699445

>>2699235
Say we post this in every thread concerning Fukushima.

>> No.2699464

>>2699432
no, it is designed to easily withstand this. What is exploding is the outside containment, i.e the building around the actual plant.

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2699472

I cant be the only one thinking this right?

>> No.2699489

>>2699472
I was actually thinking pokemon, but that works too.

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2699493

>>2699161
pic related

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2699590

>>2699433
Yeah, like Chernobyl was completely contained by the concrete building it was in and the steel vessel containing the reactor.
And radiation and fallout from Chernobyl didn't go anywhere, staying perfectly contained in the Ukraine.
Oh wait. Fuck. No. Those are both false. You're an idiot.

>> No.2699594

>>2699590
all nuclear reactors are not created equal

>> No.2699605

>>2699590
Yes, lets just ignore how Chernobyl didn't have any containment structure, while BWRs do.

>> No.2699609

>>2699590
Concrete container != concrete building.

>> No.2699624

>>2699590
Chernobyl didn't have a containment structure. It just had the reactor and the reactor hall. Fukushima has the reactors situated inside reinforced containment structures, none of which have ruptured.

The only contamination so far was from the deliberately vented steam and gas, which later caused the explosions.

The containment structures are still intact and pressure in the reactors has stabilized and is dropping, meaning a decrease in the chain reaction and the temperature of the reactor core.

>> No.2699632

>>2699624
>cont'd
Just to clarify, what blew up were the reactor halls that COVERED the containment structures.

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2699644

>>2699609
>>2699605
>>2699594
What happens if they fail to keep the core(s) cool, resluting in a catastrophic meltdown? A concrete container is not going to stop the fuel from possibly melting right through the bottom. It may not result in the dispersal of radioactive material into the atmosphere (much), but it will make cleanup of the site nearly impossible.

Do they even know what the approximate temperature of the core(s) is/are? It is my understanding that the hydrogen involved in the explosions was produced by the burning of the zircaloy surrounding the fuel, which means the fuel is still several thousand degrees.

>> No.2699649

TEPCO Billion dollar reactor vassal = Spartans/Abram Tanks/A-10 Warhog

Hydrogen = Persians/Muslims

>> No.2699708

>>2699644
At this point a meltdown isn't possible. There is a steady supply of cooling water being provided to the reactors to prevent one.

But even if there were, the containment structure is still build to withstand the heat of molten fuel and contain the radiation.

The hydrogen might have come from the top of uncovered fuel rods being exposed to steam. Another theory is that the temperature in the reactor is high enough to cause some dissociation of water. Exposed fuel isn't an issue anymore, because of adequate cooling water.

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2699726

Who's got the link to the site that disproves this fake shit?

some asshole showed this to my family and they are literally shitting themselves..

I told them radioactivity isn't even measured in RADS but they are still freaking out

>> No.2699738

>>2699726
http://www.australian-radiation-services.com.au/

The site cited on the graphic has itself issued a disclaimer.

>> No.2699747

>>2699738

brofist

>> No.2699934

>>2699590
what the fuck am i looking at?

>> No.2700067

>>2699934
scale model of Chernobyl

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>>2699590

The reactors at Fukushima have the steel reactor core surrounded by a fucking huge tough reinforced concrete containment structure, surrounded by a concrete and steel building. The outside building exploded because of released hydrogen gas, but the steel reactor core is intact, as is the reinforced concrete containment structure. Chernobyl did not have such a structure, so when it's reactor vessel failed, shit hit the fan. If the fukushima reactor vessel fails, it will just be a pain in the ass.

Interestingly, the fukushima reactors predate the Chernobyl NPP. Guess the USSR just wasn't big on safety. Not big surprise.