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Hey, /sci/.
I was wondering, what do you get from:
""The limits of my language are the limits of my life"?
What does it make you think of?
It's a famous quote by Ludwig Wittgenstein

>> No.2669763

>implying you can describe life with words

>> No.2669765

sounds like meaningless fluff to me

>> No.2669770

Maybe something about the expressive powers of language.
If you're unable to express yourself and have for example a broken english, people might not understand you.

>> No.2669773

Trees have no language. Therefore, trees are not alive.

>> No.2669776

Language is inefficient and restrictive means for communication.

>> No.2669778

Silence.

>> No.2669779

>>2669773
lol, that's /sci/ for ya... right there

>> No.2669787

implies life is language. or language defines his life. I'm guessing he was a poet or something. so his ability to do what he did to live would have been impeded if his vocabulary was poor.

>> No.2669790

>>2669787

Nope, he was an analytic philosopher.

>> No.2669804

That guy can't stop agreeing with me.

What he means is that most of our time is spent in language. We are a language-based intelligence, and therefore limited by it.

>> No.2669806

...
So how would you go about writing an essay about language politics with that quote?

forever uncreative ;_;

>> No.2669821

>>2669806

>> No.2669825

Something related to "I think therefore I am". However technically we also feel as well as think and our "language" isn't entirely composed of verbal or visual language, we can conduct logic in our brains without resorting to continually defining it with words, although the part of the brain we evolved for language plays a crucial role in abstract thought.

>> No.2669829

OP is have the quote wrong you moron.

sage this fucking shit.

>> No.2669836

>>2669829
What?

>> No.2669857

OP here, done some thinking.
How about this:

A comparison between the 2 quotes "I think, therfore I am" and the quote in my first post.
The link being consciousness. If you cannot communicate, are you conscious? And if you are not conscious (cant think) do you then exist?

What do you think of this?

>> No.2669865

>>2669857
Also, can this be linked further to language politics? That's the theme of the essay, but I might be going too far out with this?

>> No.2669869

>>2669857
I think I already answered this.
>>2669825

>> No.2669873

>>2669869
So you think we can be conscious without communication?

>> No.2669892

bamp

>> No.2670187
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2670187

Why not read the book it came from (pic related) to see if the author has anything to say about what it means? Or to see if you even have the quotation right?*

Or read another book by the same author to see if he later thought it was true (Philosophical Investigations)?

Or read something intelligent by people who have studied the idea? http://www.iep.utm.edu/wittgens/

Why would you think one sentence out of context should mean anything at all?

*"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world [not "life"]."

>> No.2670192

>>2670187
it's not from tractatus

>> No.2670198

>>2670187
That sounds like actual scholarship. Why do that when he can just ask the herpedy derpers of /sci/ to herp and derp until he has enough herp and derp to write a bullshit essay out of?

>> No.2670220

>>2670187
>>2670192

need to correct myself, i didn't read the end of your post, "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world." is of course in tractatus

>> No.2670233

'life' is a metonymic reference to rational perception, this was largely pre-psychology and saussure/piercian continental linguistics, but it is basically linguistic relativism in stark contrast with the largely positivist attempts of the tractatus