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http://www.hindustantimes.com/NASA-scientist-claims-to-have-found-an-alien-life-form/Article1-670117
.aspx

Well, I'm certainly glad we finally had the evidence to settle this whole "creation vs alien bacteria from space" debate once and for all..

Cry More, ChristCunts.

>> No.2652784

Well, there's other news site mentions of this:

http://www.b2cmarketinginsider.com/trends-news/evidence-of-life-elsewhere-in-the-universe-017803

well, there's more, but there's that, find the others yourself.

DENSE ANON PROTIP: An alien lifeform has just been confirmed. This is not a drill.

>> No.2652791

>>2652746
You're the reason I don't tell anyone I'm an atheist.

>> No.2652802

>>2652791
the true reason is that you are afraid

>> No.2652800

>>2652746
man, i thought Tim Buckleys comics were
wordswordswordswordswrodswordswords

>> No.2652809

>>2652791
go away, faggot. I'm going to go around forums trolling the fuck out of Christians with this shit, LOLoLOLolOLOLOlolOL!!!

I don't frankly give a damn about what some nobody anon like you thinks. I'm just doin it for the lulz.

>> No.2652827

>>2652746
OMG it's Commander Keen!!!

>> No.2652830

>>2652809
Wow, childish much? I know 4chan has a lot of underagers but this is ridiculous. I thought I could hold /sci/ to higher standard than the blatant immaturity of /b/, but I guess not. Please leave this thread and return to high school, thank you.

>> No.2652840
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2652840

>Hindustand Times
>Dr Hoover told 'Fox News'.

whatever you say op

>> No.2652842

It's fake, overhyped by the media.

>> No.2652859

ITT: Skeptical faggots on /sci/ that are in 8th grade think they know more than a NASA scientist, and call bullshit on something they have no idea about.

I'm not saying it isn't false, but all current evidence points to it being a fossilized bacterium of extraterrestrial origin.
Deal with it, Christfags.

>> No.2652866

>>2652859
Will you take the view of an actual Biologist and respected scientist then? He's also atheist so you can't pull this "HERP DERP RELIGION" crap

>> No.2652871

>>2652866
Forgot the link.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/did_scientists_discover_bacter.php

>> No.2652875

Waiting for the results of the peer review before commenting on this.

>> No.2652880

>>2652875
Yeah, he really should have had it peer reviewed first, rather than get all the media hype.

>> No.2652891

>>2652830
My, my, my...

-We sure are avoiding the real subject of this thread, for some reason.

>calls me the "immature" one while

Never change, /sci/. Calling yourself scientific is a bigger joke than the implication that you're more mature than and deserve better than the OP post.

>> No.2652901 [DELETED] 

So how long till we died out it isn't a fossil?

You know, like the last time we found an alien fossil.

>> No.2652906

So how long till we find out it isn't a fossil?

You know, like the last time we found an alien fossil.

>> No.2652914

God created more than one species.
This fits in with the clock maker theory for me.
I'm good with it.
You however are a cunt yourself and I would probably beat your ass in real life if you disrespected ANY god.

>> No.2652935

>>2652914
>Threatens people who express their opinion with violence
>typical christfag

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>Cry more, Christcunts
>mfw I'm a non-practicing Christian but think this is the coolest shit ever
Knock that off, we're not all methodist fucks.

>> No.2652945

>>2652906
This.
At first I thought "Fuck yeah, they must be sure this time, after that disaster with the mars fossils!".
Then I read that it's not peer reviewed yet and lost all hope.

>> No.2652953

>>2652914

>any god

Oh boy...

>> No.2652954

>>2652891
>-We sure are avoiding the real subject of this thread, for some reason.
>Implying the purpose of this thread isn't blatant religion-bating.
I suggest you read Rule 3 of /sci/ and delete this thread. Try creating a thread next time with a picture related to the article, not a childish argument against religion. or you could bump one of the many other alien threads that have been posted today.

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oh shit guys, it's happening

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2652977

>he posted this same thread on /v/

>> No.2652978

>>2652914
And I'll beat your ass if you disrespect Santa Claus. How fucking dare you disagree with my beliefs.

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>>2652977

>> No.2652984
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2652984

>this thread

>> No.2652998

The ironic thing is this is announced on a Sunday, the holiest day in most religion.

Coincidence? I think not.

>> No.2653088

>OP's pic

>why is there evil?

Because man used free will to disobey God, introducing something other than pure good.

>what made God?
Does the clay ask the potter who made him? Bible says there are some things beyond human understanding, and God is one of them. It would be like an ant trying to understand quantum physics: Pointless.

>why should I trust you after Santa Claus
This is absurd, and you are absurd for suggesting it as a real argument.

>> No.2653094

But who put the God there? You can't explain that. I for one am a satanist because Lucifer putm the God there.

>> No.2653106

>>2653088
Pretty sure this is a troll, but then why couldn't God include both goodness and free will and defy logic? He's God, isn't he omnipotent? And if you're going to whip out "God moves in mysterious ways" don't even bother responding.

>> No.2653110

>>2652906
I would say...umm... let's see...
From never to never?
more than 500 experts analysed this meteorite and microbiologists wich are people who spent their whole life looking at these little organisms that you call bacterias, etc, identified SOME of the bacterias INSIDE the meteorie.

There where also bactterias that are COMPLETLY UNKNOWN to earth or Alien to earth.

>> No.2653114

>>2653088
>Bible says there are some things beyond human understanding, and God is one of them.
I am full of rage. If God is beyond human understanding, and their are 2000+ gods across global cultures, and even ignoring the possibility of an undiscovered god, you are very much stupid for saying your god is the god.

>> No.2653115

Also moar links:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/05/exclusive-nasa-scientists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteo
rite/

>> No.2653116

What about religions such as Taoism where there is no god?

>> No.2653119

>>2653116
It's still psuedoscientific faggotry, but slightly more peaceful.

>> No.2653124

>>2653114
God revealed himself through his prophets and his Son. It's like telling ants you exist. They know you, but an ant can't possibly understand the complexity of a human brain.

>>2653106
God is omnipotent, but he also has his own nature. A universe that defied logic would be uninhabitable without constant intervention from God, and he doesn't do that.

>> No.2653135

>>2653088
>Because man used free will to disobey God, introducing something other than pure good.

Falls apart right there, for man to introduce something God did not want he must be either malevolent or not omni-potent.

>> No.2653141

>>2653124
So basically it's not his style? Okay then.

>> No.2653146

>>2653124
>God revealed himself through his prophets and his Son. It's like telling ants you exist. They know you, but an ant can't possibly understand the complexity of a human brain.
Apparently I wasn't quite full of rage, as I have discovered more. Every religion has prophets or some other "evidence" of their god(s). What makes your prophets so special?

>> No.2653147

>>2653135
God allows man to operate outside his omnipotence. If you're omnipotent, you can also restrict your own power. Thus, free will.

Nothing falls apart.

>> No.2653150

>>2653124
>God is omnipotent, but he also has his own nature. A universe that defied logic would be uninhabitable without constant intervention from God, and he doesn't do that.
He's God and he made the universe. Reason follows he also made logic. He could have made logic such that it makes sense for people to have free will and for them to be constantly good.

>> No.2653163

Every single one of these threads, on both /sci/ and /v/, have turned into religion.

>> No.2653167

>>2653147
So what you're saying is that god made a counter force to himself so that there'd be good and evil.

So in other words he did in fact create evil meaning like I just said he is malevolent.

>> No.2653168

>>2653124
How do you know your god is real and Zeus isn't? Zeus revealed himself by trolling the Greeks and leaving us lulzy stories.

>he doesn't do that.
Why the fuck not?

>> No.2653176

>implying I'm upset, at all

>implying Jesus might not have also revealed himself to aliens

>> No.2653178

>>2653163
I don't quite see how a thread like this could be relevant to /v/. How do they usually start there?

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I'll wait until his "discovery" is thoroughly reviewed by his peers, thank you very much.

>> No.2653185

>>2653176
Unless the teaching of jesus to the aliens is abducting other of hes sons and probing their ass's then no.

>> No.2653194

>>2653167
God created man with free will because he wanted people to love him of their own will, and not because it was the only option. That meant taking a risk.

God created the possibility for evil, he acknowledged that when he told Adam that eating from the Tree of Knowledge would cause him to die. It was man who decided to let evil into the world.

>>2653150
He could have also made it so that pigs could fly. He didn't. This argument will just go in circles.

>>2653168
>>2653146
>asking for proof

"blessed are those who have not seen, and yet believe."

>> No.2653200

>>2653147
>If you're omnipotent, you can also restrict your own power.
It seems to me that the only way an omnipotent being could actually restrict it's own power is by effectively neutering itself and revoking it's omnipotence. If it's still omnipotent, there are no restrictions on it's powers. Free will and omnipotence cannot exist in the same universe.

>> No.2653224

You're dumb, the catholic church even stated that extraterrestrial life didn't contradict their theology

>> No.2653223

>>2653200
No?

That's like saying if you can lift 100 pounds, then lifting anything less than 100 pounds is revoking your strength.

Being omnipotent doesn't mean exerting your full power at all times.

>> No.2653232

>>2653194
Blessed are those that have not seen, and yet believe in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities
Why have faith in your god rather than any other?

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2653241

>the guy who made OP's comic thinks that the world once believed the Earth to be flat

stupid pseudo-intellectual faggot

>> No.2653252

>>2653232
Because I was exposed to Christianity, not rastafarianism.

>> No.2653253

>>2653223
No, it doesn't, but it means nothing is beyond your power, meaning an omnipotent god would be able to prevent Man from introducing anything he didn't want, which means the statement of the anon you were replying to holds true.
>Falls apart right there, for man to introduce something God did not want he must be either malevolent or not omni-potent.

>> No.2653262

>>2653252
So believing the right thing comes down to luck? Where you happen to be born, who your parents happen to be decides whether you get rewarded or punished in the afterlife?

>> No.2653279

>>2653253
"I'm going to give you free will, but because of my power the only choice you have is me."

That's not free will at all.

>>2653262
God acknowledges that not everyone will be born into the faith. Thus, missionaries go out with the sacred duty of spreading the Word. One of the conditions for the end of the world is that the Word of God be spread to all places, so that everyone has a fair chance of converting.

>> No.2653292

>Bible says there are some things beyond human understanding, and God is one of them.
>God created man with free will because he wanted people to love him of their own will.

How is it God is incomprehensible, yet you can claim to know his intentions unambiguously and equivocally?

>> No.2653299

>>2653279
>God acknowledges that not everyone will be born into the faith. Thus, missionaries go out with the sacred duty of spreading the Word

people can and have died before word could have arrived.

>> No.2653324

do you guys read the articles or just the headlines? this is the same guy who found "alien life" 7 years ago. bullshit then, probably bullshit now.

1. the "fossils" he found in 2004 turned out to look a whole lot like organisms we see here, but they were inorganic.
2. even if these"fossils" are organic, they were found on earth. more likely an asteroid hit us and what was found was alredy here.

as has been said before: none of us really know anything. wait until this shit is thoroughly reviewed.

>> No.2653325

OP this could have been a decent thread had you not used that image. Even if you did say

>deal with it christfags

>> No.2653332

>>2653279
I know, that's why I said we can't have free will if there's an omnipotent being.

>>2653299
What he said.

>> No.2653337

>>2653324

note: another similar claim form the 90's:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/meteorites/life.html

bottom line: this sort of claim requires evidence and all that has been presented so far (just as in previous cases) are images up to anyone's interpretation.

>> No.2653359

It's a damn shame, you know.

This could have potentially been a good and decent thread if the OP didn't post it for the sake of trolling christfags.

That said, I'd say there's a good chance we may have found actual life with this one. Hoover released this information to scientific peers before releasing it to the media. Granted it's hyped right now, we may have very well stumbled across something truly groundbreaking.

>> No.2653364

>>2653324

A couple of biologists commenting on the paper on their blogs have been rather scathing already of the methodology (and the journal itself but that shouldn't matter in their judgement, really).http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/did_scientists_discover_bacter.php
http://rrresearch.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-this-claim-of-bacteria-in-meteorite.html

>> No.2653388

This sort of thing has happened over and over and has never panned out as it was presented. I too will wait until it is truly confirmed before I start shitting myself about the alien invasion and my utter lack of preparedness to deal with extraterrestrial infections.

>> No.2653394

>>2652746
What are you talking about? God clearly created those too. Have you been paying attention at ALL?

>> No.2653440

i'm still amazed to see discussions about religion in 2011. in fact, i'm still amazed that religion even exists

i'm lucky i live in a developed country and i don't know a single person who believes in this shit or even worse goes to a church

i'm not even trolling

seriously, americans, you gotta let go of this shit. buy some nice hi-tech devices and marvel at what us, the human race, have achieved. i understand that religion was cool back then when all people had was sheeps, rocks and no means of understanding anything, but TODAY ? shiiiiiiit