NASA Scientist Finds Alien Life on Meteorite: http://www.seonode.com/blog/scientist-at-nasa-finds-evidence-of-alien-life-on-meteorite/ Problem Christfags? Did god put alien bacteria on a meteorite to test your faith?

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Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:53:41 2011 No.2647430 [Reply] [Original]

NASA Scientist Finds Alien Life on Meteorite:

http://www.seonode.com/blog/scientist-at-nasa-finds-evidence-of-alien-life-on-meteorite/

Problem Christfags? Did god put alien bacteria on a meteorite to test your faith?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:53:41 2011 No.2647434 >>2647430 >Did god put alien bacteria on a meteorite to test your faith? Yes, god is omnipotent and can do anything. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:54:41 2011 No.2647436 for fucksex, this is the 3rd thread in the last 5 hours about this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:55:41 2011 No.2647437 >>2647436 Deal with it Christfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:55:41 2011 No.2647440 >“It’s аn extraordinary claim, аnԁ thus I’ll need extraordinary evidence,” Marais ѕаіԁ. I like this guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:55:41 2011 No.2647441 god did it hes a joker like that he put it there to test your faith the earth is only 1 day old

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:00:41 2011 No.2647458 the Devil did it to mislead humanity

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:00:41 2011 No.2647459 >>2647436 >breaking science news >upset that it gets talked about on the science board Sorry for interrupting your philosophy and homework threads, bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:01:41 2011 No.2647460 >>2647458 but the devil doesnt have a body so how could he fly to space and put it there he has to posses you and he only posesses little girls and makes thier head spin and stuff you cant explain that

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:01:41 2011 No.2647461

First, lets find out for sure that it is 100% what this guy says in the article.

I don't want to get all hyped up and then nothing to come out of it because the scientist was a retard.

So let's wait and see before we all shit ourselves.

Atheists fags stfu. You guys only hold on to science to prove theists wrong. Can you just enjoy the fact that we might have found life instead of dancing around like a rabid bitch?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:01:41 2011 No.2647463 >>2647459 atleast fucking keep in 1 thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:02:41 2011 No.2647466 >finds alien life and >finds evidence of alien life Are two very different things. Still cool, nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:03:41 2011 No.2647471 How can life exist on a comet? I'm gonna call contamination on this one

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:04:41 2011 No.2647472 Another ploy for more funding.... NASA executives are getting rich off these hype stories.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:04:41 2011 No.2647476

>>2647430
>bacteria shaped fossils found on meteorites dug up from EARTH SOIL.

So there are three likely possibilities:
1) It is fossilized exolife.
2) It is an Earth fossil.
3) It is a mineral deposit that looks like a bacterium.

I'm quite confident exolife exists, however I am not confident that this is proof of exolife.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:05:41 2011 No.2647481 File: 4 KB, 118x110, jokernotimpressed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2647472 >NASA executives are getting rich

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:05:41 2011 No.2647483 >>2647476 He cleaves the rock and looks at the INSIDE.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:06:41 2011 No.2647484 >>2647460 Why does he need a body to be able to fly out to space? It would be even easier if he didn't in fact have a body and is only in spirit form.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:06:41 2011 No.2647486 >'finds' 'evidence' of life from deep space >delivers aforementioned evidence to Fox News BWAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:08:41 2011 No.2647495 >>2647486 There's a published, peer-reviewed paper undergoing further peer review, if you're implying there's not.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:08:41 2011 No.2647496

>>2647471
He got the meteorites lying around in antartica and other extreme places.

Archae Bacteria or other extreme hyper thermophiles live in impossible conditions in those places.

>“The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,”

I think it was contaminated too.

Again also keep in mind that our source here is fox news.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:10:41 2011 No.2647502 >>2647496 The source is a peer reviewed journal called "Cosmetology" you fucking idiot. Foxnews just got to look at the newest issue before it was released.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:11:41 2011 No.2647505 >>2647496 >Again also keep in mind that our source here is fox news. No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:12:41 2011 No.2647511 This is far from the first evidence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanobacterium http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600-13-things-that-do-not-make-sense.html?page=2 Number 6

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:13:41 2011 No.2647516

>>2647502

Yes but consider this. Fox news is mostly for retards... so if they added anything extra then you wouldn't know any better. If they took some other important detail proving that its not exolife then you wouldn't know either.

My point: Read the article in the peer viewed journal and not to base or conclude anything on what fox news wrote about it.

It's like reading a stupid biased article on a website or reading the actual research paper. It's not the same dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:17:41 2011 No.2647536 Gayliens?

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:18:41 2011 No.2647543

Official Statement from Dr. Rudy Schild,
Center for Astrophysics, Harvard-Smithsonian,
Editor-in-Chief, Journal of Cosmology. -

"We believe Dr. Hoover's careful analysis provides definitive evidence of ancient microbial life on astral bodies some of which may predate the origin of Earth and this solar system. "

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:18:41 2011 No.2647546 Also, http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-satellites-20110305,0,1035837.story Got to earn back the funding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:20:41 2011 No.2647558 >hurp durp fox news Here is the article. http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:26:41 2011 No.2647594 >>2647516 Here's the Journal of Cosmology's page for Vol 13. This particular article has not been posted yet. We shall hopefully see soon, however. http://journalofcosmology.com/Contents13.html

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:40:41 2011 No.2647648

Facts I found so far that might help the discussion:

The fact that these stones disintegrate immediately after they are exposed to liquid water was observed during the initial studies of the Alais meteorite (Thénard, 1806; Berzelius, 1834, 1836) and the Orgueil stones (Leymerie, M. 1864).

Meterites found with filaments and their falls:
Alais - 1806; Orgueil - 1864; Ivuna - 1938

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:57:41 2011 No.2647711 Why is the website for a journal headed by such prominent names look like shit. Could just be using their names without their knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:00:41 2011 No.2647723 http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:03:41 2011 No.2647733

>>2647711

It's because most people who care too much about science, don't waste their time doing web design.

Most websites with bad design tend to be backed up by great minds.

I am not saying this is the case here and I am also skeptical because this is supposedly a magazine website - which should be all about presentation to the readers unlike the other scientific websites i mentioned about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:10:41 2011 No.2647750 >>2647434 If he is omnipotent and can do anything why does he not cure misery and suffering? If he can and won't that makes him a cunt. So which is it? He is omnipotent and a cunt or he is not omnipotent or even real?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:16:41 2011 No.2647768 >>2647750 He can but won't Because misery and suffering are humanity's own fault. Because we sin. And that is the consequence for sin.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:17:41 2011 No.2647772

>>2647756

Weak. Christfags ALWAYS have an excuse. You could present them with something any reasonable person would agree to and they would pull something our of their ass. Because they have decided something is true and fit their observations into that decision....vs taking the observations and LEARNING what is true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:18:41 2011 No.2647776 >>2647768 Which still makes him an asshole...he made us this way and he knew what would happen. No loving father would allow his kid to die of ALS or cancer over years if he had the power to help him. God doesn't give a shit which makes him a cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:23:41 2011 No.2647789 >>2647776 au contraire God frequently heals people, miracles, and stuff.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:23:41 2011 No.2647792

Wow. They finally fucking did it. They finally fucking found evidence. Do you know what this means? It means the life is a lot more common than we think. I wonder how this will affect Drake's equation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlikCebQSlY

Hot damn. I'm having a party tonight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:24:41 2011 No.2647798 >>2647789 >bad thing happens >humanity's fault, you sinned or some shit >good thing happens >God did it he's such a nice guy Aaaaand there we have the troll.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:25:41 2011 No.2647801 >>2647789 Prove it. Prove it was "god" doing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:25:41 2011 No.2647802 So if there is technologically advanced civilization else where, what are the chances that they too practice Christianity? I bet it's zero. What now Christfags?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:26:41 2011 No.2647804 >>2647791 Yes I will have to deal with the fact that christfags are idiots and will always pollute society.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:29:41 2011 No.2647814

>>2647798
yeah, I don't see a contradiction there. Only because your mind is already set on disproving God, you cannot see the truth.

>>2647802
There probably isn't, but if there is, who cares? They aren't human. Jesus only died for humans afterall.

>>2647801
This has to be done in a case-specific way...

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:30:41 2011 No.2647815

>Problem Christfags?
Im an atheist but not really. For a lot of Christians, scientific findings such as this one do not disprove the existance of God or Jesus. Its creationists and literal Bible fags who, if this proves to be verifiable, will be told hard. And I mean hard.

>>	YOU MAD? Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:31:41 2011 No.2647820 File: 31 KB, 343x256, You_mad_grimace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I dont believe in god and dont give a fuck if someone else does.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:31:41 2011 No.2647823

>>2647814

You are the one who has to prove god....not us disprove him. That's what people like you cannot grasp. There is no proof of god...so we have no work to do disproving him. You cannot claim fantastical things and then tell others they have to prove you are wrong. That's not how it works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:32:41 2011 No.2647824 >>2647815 Actually it was creationist and fundamentalists that originated the idea of life being on other world because 'God was not so selfish as to only bless one earth' paraphrased but the point stands

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:32:41 2011 No.2647826 File: 131 KB, 472x472, THIS-FUCKIN-GUY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IF DOUBLES GOD IS REAL.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:33:41 2011 No.2647833 >>2647815 The christians ive spoken too usually do not completely rule out the possibility of existence of ET life forms. I guess they could see it as God's "side projects"

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:34:41 2011 No.2647837 >>2647814 >case specific So you can't. We all know you can't. Because christfags have no testable and proveable evidence. Something being possible, even likely statistically doesnt make it true. Prove it or shut up about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:34:41 2011 No.2647838 >>2647823 Theists say there are gods, the burden of proof is on them. Atheists say there are no gods, the burden of proof is on them. Rationale people ask, what does the evidence suggest? Mathematical proofs often prove negatives

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:34:41 2011 No.2647839 >>2647824 Going to need sauce for that. It really doesnt matter though, just because a couple of people in a sect think differently, it does not change the minds of the others. Most creationists and bible thumpers do not think this way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:35:41 2011 No.2647844 >>2647833 Hence the "a lot". I was trying to be optimistic but Im glad that, at least from you sample, that you found that people have an open mind for this.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:36:41 2011 No.2647846

>>2647833

That's just them adapting their mythology to the times. 1000 years ago that would have been laughed at universally...now since advancements have shown life away from Earth is likely they are revising their mythos to cover all the bases. They will always do this in an attempt to hold on to an inevitably dying dogma.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:37:41 2011 No.2647851 >>2647846 You will be surprised, there are still geocentrist old earth creationists on youtube. Look for NephilimFree and see what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:37:41 2011 No.2647853 >>2647838 Atheists say there is no proof of any gods. We do not claim something that isn't proven. You don't seem to understand how theories and proof works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:37:41 2011 No.2647854 Eurofag here. 'MERICA sure has problems with those Christs. Cant we all just get along and pretend theyre not pants to head stupid?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:38:41 2011 No.2647859 >>2647851 herp derp I mean young earth.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:38:41 2011 No.2647860

>>2647823
There are many proofs for the existence of God.
There are philosophical arguments, also testimonials, anecdotes.
see wikipedia for philosophical arguments, go to any church for testimonials.
Moreover, you can also prove it yourself. How can you confirm the evidence if you are unwilling to observe it? Go to a local church, surrender your life to Jesus, and ask Him to reveal Himself to you. Then you can experience God for yourself.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:39:41 2011 No.2647863

>>2647851

Well thats just so ridiculous I bet even religious people who consider themselves "rational" laugh at it. Those people are likely trolls as well....or very mentally ill. In any case Christians will have to fight more and more to explain away discoveries as time goes on. They will of course fall back on the "god is mysterious and omnipotent" claim which has no basis in proof but that won't stop them.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:40:41 2011 No.2647865

>>2647461
>First, lets find out for sure that it is 100% what this guy says in the article.

>I don't want to get all hyped up and then nothing to come out of it because the scientist was a retard.

>So let's wait and see before we all shit ourselves.

>Atheists fags stfu. You guys only hold on to science to prove theists wrong. Can you just enjoy the fact that we might have found life instead of dancing around like a rabid bitch?

I like the way he thinks. Atheists, creationists, and global warming hucksters like Al Gore has politicized the shit out of science. It's time we go back to the discovery of truth, not filtering of truth to validate people's ideology and to push forth an agenda.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:41:41 2011 No.2647870 >>2647860 No there are not any "proofs" for the existence of God. You need to educate yourself on what proof means. None of your "proofs" can stand up under unbiased examination.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:42:41 2011 No.2647873 >>2647837 Well first of all I need a case to do a case study wouldn't I? I could just tell you a story about miracles that happened. Would you like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:45:41 2011 No.2647884 Judging from the other articles this "journal" has published, it seems they only exist to push the idea of panspermia. I doubt both their academic and journalistic rigour.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:45:41 2011 No.2647885

>>2647860
Nope.

Testimonals and anecdotes are the weakest kind of evidence. For an analogy, imagine that I claim that I saw Jesus on my back porch being gangedbanged by 12 niggers while my grass turned red and ponies started growing out of it. Now, would you accept that claim?

Say that 100 other people in the world experienced a vaguely similar, but not exact thing too. Say for example, others didn't think it was Jesus, while others didn't see ponies growing. But they were similar enough for us to believe it was part of some divine revelation. See where Im going with this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:46:41 2011 No.2647886 >>2647870 Well you could say that about anecdotal evidence, but you can't say that to philosophical arguments. They are not empirical.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:46:41 2011 No.2647887

>>2647873

Nobody has ever been able to and I do not believe you can either. At best you guys play semantics games and try to disguise posibilities/probabilities as proof and truth. There is no proof of God. There are experiences and occurrences that people who WANT it to be God attach him to. Nothing more.

>>	Gigabit Dinosaur !ubN0EOQnGY Sat Mar 5 13:46:41 2011 No.2647888 File: 9 KB, 341x285, 1298745788822.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] By my scientific calculations, I have concluded this post will end in triples. Also prayed for them to the christ god!

>>	Dr. PyBro MD !wJPyBRO/YY Sat Mar 5 13:47:41 2011 No.2647896 >>2647888 cool story getting trips on a slow board. must be tough, eh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:48:41 2011 No.2647902 >>2647888 cool script bro.

>>	Gigabit Dinosaur !ubN0EOQnGY Sat Mar 5 13:49:41 2011 No.2647904 >>2647896 I no rite? My calculations were still correct. U jelly? >>2647902 Script? No, it's called being really fucking bored.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:49:41 2011 No.2647905 >>2647885 Yes I agree, that's why you have to experience it for yourself and not just hear it from others. Like I said, surrender your life to God, then ask Him to reveal himself to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:52:41 2011 No.2647911 >throw sandvich on the floor >let it rot for weeks >suddenly life these fossils are not extraterrestrial. the meteroit was rotting while some earthly microbes decided to hang out on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:52:41 2011 No.2647915 @ OP This is a giant bacterium from earth. RTMFP

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:53:41 2011 No.2647920

>>2647905

And what about the people who have tried that and got nothing? Your kind will say "you are doing it wrong" or "he isnt ready for you" or any number of bullshit excuses. You know you can't lose....you can pretend your whole life and there will be no consequence for being wrong. You die and turn to dust and will never know. Meanwhile your kind makes life miserable for normal people.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:55:41 2011 No.2647930

>>2647905
If God really wants me to believe in him he'd better get his shit straight and make his world make sense by his rules.

He makes our brains work off of logic, he makes the world follow a strict set of rules, laws of physics, etc, he makes everything important to us MAKE SENSE.

And then he goes and makes a contradictory Bible, refuses to just poof out and prove himself, refuses to put obvious evidence that cannot be argued and would immediately be accepted by our brains, etc.

Based on the rest of this guy's world, he's either fucking with us or not real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:55:41 2011 No.2647935 >>2647905 >surrender your life to God So gay.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:56:41 2011 No.2647937

>>2647905
Wait, let me get this straight, you would actually believe that I saw Jesus getting gangedbanged by 12 niggers while the grass turned red and ponies started growing out of the ground? Even though I have no evidence whatsoever?

What about if I claim that these wonderful ginsen pills from the forests of Nepal that Im selling will cure cancer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:01:41 2011 No.2647963 >>2647930 Amen And people like the "he is testing us" theory because it makes them feel important. Religion is about fear and ego nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:02:41 2011 No.2647966 Does anyone actually want to point out how this disproves God in any way? Or can we actually have a scientific discussion that isn't "U MAD CHRISTFAGS?" "WHY U SO DUMB ATHEISTFAGS?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:03:41 2011 No.2647981 >>2647911 >implying that was not the first explanation they thought about. Cientist of the year.

Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ Sat Mar 5 14:05:41 2011 No.2647988
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>most important discovery of the 21'st century
>turns into a religion Shit fest

Fuck you you fucking faggots you arrogant hateful fuckers!

We just discovered FUCKING ALIENS!

Get your priorities straight you fucking idiots!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:05:41 2011 No.2647989 >>2647966 Shows the garden of eden either couldn't have been on earth, or couldnt have been where the first life was

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:05:41 2011 No.2647990 >>2647937 I guess by this standard.... Hieroglyphics are just testimonials on stone and so they are meaningless.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Sat Mar 5 14:09:34 2011 No.2648013 >>2647988 lol, no you fucking didn't sample was contaminated. bacteria 'fossils' were created on earth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:09:41 2011 No.2648011 >>2647884 I wouldn't be surprised. I thought the same exact thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:09:41 2011 No.2648017 >>2647990 Nope because there is other evidence corroborating the story

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:11:41 2011 No.2648026 >>2647990 Also, by this standard we must accept everything written as fact. Beowulf, Tolkien and Lovecraft included.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:11:41 2011 No.2648030

>>2647937
No, I said "yes i agree" to what you said about anecdotes being a weak kind of evidence. Not about the gangbanging thing. But I can believe that if I ave investigated it myself and confirm your claim.

>>2647930
There are evidence out there, you just don't want to accept it. God reveals himself constantly, but you don't want to open your (metaphorical) eyes to see him.
The Bible is not contradictory. Usually when you think two verses are contradictory, it actually isn't when you put it in context. I invite you to point out the contradiction.

>>2647920
I think you should stop talking about what christians would say and start talking about truth. There is an objective truth out there that we can all observe and gain a common understanding. You can either go and observe it, or close your eyes forever. The trick is to be open-minded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:12:41 2011 No.2648036 File: 66 KB, 557x392, 1280662063273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2647988 >>2647966 Fucking This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:13:41 2011 No.2648040 >foxnews.com had the first look at it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:13:41 2011 No.2648044 >>2648013 Tits or GTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:13:41 2011 No.2648045 >>2648017 Not really. Their idea of after life was learned almost all from hieroglyphics. Yes, the way they were buried taught us things but definitely most of the idea of after life came from hieroglyphics. Same goes for cave drawings.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Sat Mar 5 14:14:34 2011 No.2648052 >>2648044 penis or GTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:14:41 2011 No.2648048 >>2647884 pan..sperm-ia ??

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:14:41 2011 No.2648051 on cbs now http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20039658-501465.html

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:14:41 2011 No.2648053

>>2648017
I would like to expand on this. If some hieroglyphics, for example, say that workers on the Great Pyramids were treated much more diligently than slaves and given proper housing and food, we must find evidence corroborating for that statement. Lo and behold, we actually found the reminds of such houses and even found fossilized food... I think, Im not too learned on ancient history but you get the idea. If it claims something, even if its old, we must be able to verify it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:15:41 2011 No.2648055

>>2648030

>There are evidence out there, you just don't want to accept it. God reveals himself constantly, but you don't want to open your (metaphorical) eyes to see him.

This is a flat out lie. You are making shit up to either troll or fit your bible thumping psychosis. There is no repeatable, verifiable and indisputable beyond a reasonable doubt evidence for "god". None.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:16:41 2011 No.2648059 >>2648026 Not really. At least the scene should accurate according to the testimonials. The books you mentioned are written around this age and do not in any way have the same scene as the books of fiction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:17:41 2011 No.2648065 >>2647989 Standard Christian theology teaches that the Garden of Eden wasn't in fact on Earth. Or it was on Earth, but moved elsewhere after the Fall.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:17:41 2011 No.2648066 >>2648045 Wait, youre talking about unverifiable mystical bullshit while Im actually talking about how hieroglyphs are used to make discoveries.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:18:41 2011 No.2648069 >>2648059 >Beowulf >Written around this age Wut?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:18:41 2011 No.2648070 >>2648065 what "Standard"? I doubt this is the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:20:41 2011 No.2648079 >>2648069 >>2648069 It was written in 1815 - it is closer to this age than when we compare evidences of the bible. You get the point... so stop being a dick.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:21:41 2011 No.2648083

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:21:41 2011 No.2648085 >>2648079 Beowulf was written in the Dark ages. Stop being an idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:22:41 2011 No.2648089 File: 43 KB, 361x365, 1273349378851.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So wait, we discovered aliens? WHY ISN'T EVERYONE FREAKING OUT?! THIS ISN'T ABOUT FUCKING CHRISTIANITY!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:22:41 2011 No.2648091 >>2648065 mmm nope. pretty sure I never heard that in sunday school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:23:41 2011 No.2648093 >>2648083 atheist trollbaits are far more derailing, in fact they are the cause of the pseudo-theist trolls

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:23:41 2011 No.2648097 >>2648083 U MAD? >>2648089 Tell that to the atheists who are starting these threads to start arguments.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:23:41 2011 No.2648098

>>2648055
How can you say so confidently that there are no evidence at all for the existence of God?
I could say that there are no evidence for global warming, none. But I haven't seen the global temperature logs. Likewise you are in the same position, sir.

I could tell you stories about miracles I witnessed/experienced, but I doubt you'd give any weight to them.

Can I ask you a question? What would it take to convert you to a believer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:24:41 2011 No.2648099 >>2647853 Wrong, atheists believe there are no gods http://www.evilbible.com/Definition_of_Atheism_1.htm

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:24:41 2011 No.2648103

>>2648079
>Beowulf
>It was written in 1815
LOLNO
Charles Dickens was born in 1812.

Listen to this and tell me if it sounds remotely like the modern English of Charles Dickens, or even the early modern English of Shakespeare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y13cES7MMd8&t=0m30s

Pretty awesome though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:25:41 2011 No.2648107 >>2648065 Alright, you got me. I really dont know anything about Christianity. Like, barely anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:25:41 2011 No.2648108 File: 14 KB, 400x299, 1284694691342.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648103 >that video Best thing in this whole thread, and it's not even on topic.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:25:41 2011 No.2648109

>>2648098

There is not point arguing with Atheists - they are stubborn and close minded. So they will never believe. They are angered by religions b/c they were born with it. They don't like religions and so they don't like God.

Only actual converts or possible ones are agnostics. They are open minded and if they got enough proof they would accept it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:26:41 2011 No.2648117 >>2648091 Really? I heard that in Sunday school Prebysterian

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:26:41 2011 No.2648119

Not samefag

>Can I ask you a question? What would it take to convert you to a believer?

But

1. A vivid experience which undoubtedly proves to me without a shadow of a doubt that God exists. Lets say that I have a vision of an angel who tells me that God is real and if I do some act, this will happen, and behold it happens. This is continuously verified over and over.

2. Independent verification with overwhelming scientific evidence.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:28:41 2011 No.2648127

>>2648098

Your anecdotes are not proof. Proof is repeatable and verifiable by independent sources. What you are calling proof is simply experience that you claim is of God while dismissing all other options and not testing this in any documentable way.

What would it take? Well showing himself...submitting to examination to prove he wasn't some hologram or David Copperfield show. Showing me Heaven and Hell or whatever really "is" out there. Answering many questions regarding the contradictions and mystery surrounding religion. Then I could probably accept it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:28:41 2011 No.2648129 >>2648109 >strawman >massive generalizations >more strawman, strawman everywhere cool story bro

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:29:41 2011 No.2648135

>>2648127

Samefag...I should add that I am not the only person who experienced that...it would have to be witnessed by others and I would be examined to show I was not under the influence of any drugs etc. Filmed so it could be reviewed etc. You know...Science motherfucker!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:30:41 2011 No.2648138 >>2648127 >>2648119 This and this right here. Personally, Im very open to these experiences, but they haven't happened yet. Therefore, I can't accept your claim that the Abrahamic God exists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:30:41 2011 No.2648139 >>2648103 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj25_j3k1E&feature=channel This is awesome

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:31:41 2011 No.2648143

>>2648119

>2.Independent verification with overwhelming scientific evidence

Scientific evidence can be repeated, observed by anyone to confirm, etc. Supernatural things cannot.

So you are left with 1. as the only way you are going to believe. This is why God doesn't exist for most of you guys.

>>	None !!yklNKVsh+sq Sat Mar 5 14:33:54 2011 No.2648157 File: 10 KB, 247x248, 1297199015258.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >comments on foxnews arguing about religion >/sci/ also arguing about the same thing >foxnews and /sci/ are one

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:35:41 2011 No.2648164

>>2648143
>Scientific evidence can be repeated, observed by anyone to confirm, etc. Supernatural things cannot.

I agree with you except on the "observed by anyone to confirm". It could happen that we suddenly can all see God or something along those lines. So in that way, it could be independently verifiable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:36:41 2011 No.2648173 I didn't feel like reading through the thread so someone might have already posted this but here is the official paper: http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:37:41 2011 No.2648175

>>2648127
if it was only one experience then it probably won't constitute a proof. But over and over, witnessed by many people? There is even a pattern to it and you could generalise laws from them. It's not a strict proof like a mathematical proof, but it would be a proof that would be admissible in most sciences. I wish there could a new branch of science that investigate supernatural phenomenon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:38:41 2011 No.2648180 I can't believe we're still pathetically warring religions. Are people really that insecure about their belief? That goes for you too, Atheistfags, and I'm one of you. Well, more like Agnostic-Atheist, but the point is the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:39:41 2011 No.2648184 wasn't this a Dan Brown novel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:39:41 2011 No.2648187 >>2648180 >insecure No >easily pissed Yes I haven't really bothered with the whole atheist-theist or evolution-idiot debate for about two years. But hey, its sometimes good to argue

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:40:41 2011 No.2648192 >>2648139 this guy is my hero

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:41:41 2011 No.2648195

>>2648143

God doesn't exist for most of us because there is no proof of his existence. You cannot hide behind supernatural and say "well if you require such rigid proof you will never know god" like its OUR fault we ask for proof. That is a pathetic argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:41:41 2011 No.2648197 hey guys, what's going on?

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:42:41 2011 No.2648203

>>2648164

Yes but not for the f2 or f3 generation. That is the kids that are born to our kids. They want verification again. This means God has to show up all around the world every second generation.

If you think about it, everyone with Moses knew there was God and was verified about his existence. But, now we are back to questioning if He exists.

So according to this, God has to show up all the time even though we are His creation and so it's is sorta makes Him look weak to come again and again to prove Himself to us. This would not make Him seem almighty but someone who is just trying to get approval from His creation.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:44:41 2011 No.2648210

>>2648180

I will tell you why it bothers me as a agnostic borderline atheist. Because religious people throughout history and still today are influencing laws, policy and the quality of our lives with their superstition and nonsense. Just as we find Bruno's execution by the Catholic church appalling now future humans will find actions taken by modern day churches appalling. I don't care if people want to join cults...but keep it to yourself and stay the fuck out of our business.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:44:41 2011 No.2648212 >>2648187 It seems to me like a lot of people are very insecure about their belief. You can think what you want, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:44:41 2011 No.2648214 >>2648203 I agree, didn't see it that way. So it will take constant verification in every generation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:45:41 2011 No.2648222 >>2648195 I am just saying as it is... I am not saying it is our fault but you have to look at the whole picture and not just keep demanding proof.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:46:41 2011 No.2648226 >>2648203 No everyone around Moses' time did not KNOW there was a God. There were people who didn't buy it. Also the entire mythology is based on a book taken as truth with no proof it is accurate, complete or legitimate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:46:41 2011 No.2648230 >>2648195 it's like how creationists always say evolution is just a "theory", it's not proven yet. True, but there are numerous evidences (from fossil, genes, etc) supporting it, so people are quite confident with it. Likewise with God, I think.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:46:41 2011 No.2648233

>>2647436
Third thread? in 5 hours? Science on the science board?

This is one of, if not the most important discovery humans have ever found. If we were to find anything more than bacteria, then it'd be such an important discovery that we'd change our timeline to "Pre Contact" and "Post contact".

Stop being a fuckwat twelve year old. This is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:48:41 2011 No.2648244 File: 762 KB, 1024x768, sagan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648230 To quote Carl Sagan: "Evolution is not a theory, it is a fact."

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:50:41 2011 No.2648257

>>2648222

The whole picture still does not prove god. You are choosing what you want to be true and fitting experiences to it rather than examining things and discovering what "is". There is nothing that suggests God that doesn't have multiple other probable/possible theories. God is a theory only...a very weakly supported one...not a fact.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:51:41 2011 No.2648262

>>2648226
He said "with" Moses. Meaning the Israelites who travel with Moses. Not everyone who lived around that time.
Cause, there was a pillar of cloud and pillar of fire following them. I take it he meant that during Moses' time, God revealed himself in a very direct way, but why not now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:53:41 2011 No.2648276 >>2648244 And William James said: "Faith in a fact, creates the fact." So what's your point?

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:54:41 2011 No.2648279

>>2648226

Samefag...I should clarify that the entire modern argument is based on a book. Before the Bible it was based on people preaching the story much like modern day televangelists. There is no proof that any of the fantastic things the bible says happened actually occurred. None.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:54:41 2011 No.2648283

What makes you think that I, as a Christian, am in any way affected by this? I've known my whole life that the whole Creation story was scientifically inaccurate. Where does it say that there aren't aliens in the Bible? If anything, it excites me, because it shows that God doesn't have the intention of blocking us off from other "worlds". Discover me an entire planet-full of sentient aliens, then I'll be intrigued.

[/sci/can'tintospoiler]besides, this isn't even proof[//sci/can'tintospoiler]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:55:41 2011 No.2648291 >>2648276 I didn't have a point really, it's just a lot of people on /sci/ look up to Carl Sagan and it's relevant.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:56:41 2011 No.2648293

>>2648262

We don't know that God revealed himself to those people. That's just what is claimed. Everyone knows stories get embellished. There is no accurate recording of what happened during those times.

Godfags want to believe that stuff happened because it supports their belief. They don't care that there is no proof of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:58:41 2011 No.2648304 >>2648293 Well, I just used William James to refute Carl Sagan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:01:41 2011 No.2648328 Hi guys I'm the one pretending to be a christfag here >>2647860 >>2648098 and others. I'm sleepy now so you can continue discussing actual alien stuff I won't bother you anymore. You guys are so easily baited into arguments about god

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:01:41 2011 No.2648330 http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml Read the bullshit in this link...they claim the Bible PROVES Christianity and that it is the only religion that can be proven. They are out of their minds and that page is full of nonsense.

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:03:41 2011 No.2648350

>>2648328
It doesn't matter if you are or are not a christfag...you use the same nonsensical arguments so the rebuttals still stand against the stupidity of Christianity.

And you are not as clever as you imagine yourself. Anyone can pretend to be someone else online. It's not a great challenge ;) You are at best "average".

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:03:41 2011 No.2648353 >>2648330 Can we focus on the article and not turn it into an atheist circle jerk ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:08:41 2011 No.2648383 >>2648350 except i defeated your rebuttals didn't I?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:18:41 2011 No.2648452 >>2648383 You know the answer to that is "no you didn't".

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 16:00:41 2011 No.2648680 >>2648353 I'd love that, but I think it's too late for that, and it makes me sad.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 16:34:41 2011 No.2648876 >>2648867 That faggot again..

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Sat Mar 5 16:37:34 2011 No.2648893 >>2648876 don't call him a faggot! that is carl sagan you fuck!

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 16:39:41 2011 No.2648901

>>2648893
Maybe he flew around the sun getting that tan while giving multiple handjobs to aliens and used their manjuice to make his haircut. He could atleast have asked them for a cure against shitty hair, his head looks like a rug made up of pubichair.

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Sat Mar 5 16:42:34 2011 No.2648925 >>2648901 >He could atleast have asked them for a cure against shitty hair, his head looks like a rug made up of pubichair. become signed rapper ?????? PROFIT!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 16:44:41 2011 No.2648927 >>2648925 Hahaha I didnt even think about the rime when I wrote it xD

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 16:46:41 2011 No.2648944 > implying fabricated evidence isn't common.

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