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2585594 No.2585594 [Reply] [Original]

If Gravitomagnetism is just the analogical sums between the two (gravity & electromagnetism) then why is it about? is there any use for knowing these equations?

Also, what does the findings of pseudo-monopole (spin-ice) particles do for gravitomagnetism?
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090903163725.htm

Also gravi-photon, oddest hypothetical particle?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviphoton

>> No.2585606

Um.. Are we talking about real science here or theroetical crap you found by reading random wikipedia articles? Is this another idiot thing like tachyons?

>> No.2585620

>>2585606
The graviphoton is random shit i know fuck all about by reading one wiki article, but gravitomagnetism is pretty established bro.

>> No.2585654

are you using Gravitomagnetism to mean the real force as predicted by general relativity (and ignored by Einstein because its effect is so small that we can even now barely measure it) or some other force (hint: thats made up) related to the gravi-photon?

>> No.2585660

>>2585620
>but gravitomagnetism is pretty established bro.
Coolest of stories, bro.

Come back when you've found a negative-mass object.

>> No.2585667

>>2585654
Sorry i shouldn't have mentioned graviphoton, it has nothing to do with GEM.

I read this:
>arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0311030
And it just seems to be equations without any physical repercussion or applied meaning.

>> No.2585672

>>2585660
come back when you understand GR

>> No.2585675

>>2585672
Nope.

We've never observed negative mass or magnetic monopoles. This gravitomagnetism bullshit is just crackpottery.

>> No.2585687

>gravitophoton
You're honestly arguing about a speculated supersymmetric partner to a particle that ALSO has never been observed?

Sage

>> No.2585690

could gravity just be the weight of air on top of us? on the moon theres not a whole lot of moulcules floating in the space but there is still something there causing the slight bit of gravity

>> No.2585711

>>2585675
what does negative mass or magnetic monopoles have to do with Gravitomagnetism?

>> No.2585721

>>2585690
I had to reread that 3 times before I gave up

>> No.2585741

ITT: people read what they want to here and don't into anything, I mad.

>>2585687
Nope, OP just stated that he thought it was an odd particle.

>>2585675
Apart from:
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100412084525.htm
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090903163725.htm
They haven't, but what's far more important is NEITHER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH GRAVITOMAGNETISM!


OP:
>>2585594
Gravito-mono-magnetism isn't theorised on, the equations are just the basis for later experimenting. Seens gravitons aren't found, the theory is on one leg.
If i remember correctly gravity effects photons and therefor in the correct conditions gravitomagnetism would be a teamworking force.

>> No.2585742

>>2585711
Apologies, I had this in mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitomagnetism#Fringe_physics

Also, OP brought up pseudo-monopoles in spin ice, so I thought he was edging into the one of the pseudoscience fringes.

>> No.2585747

You're getting closer the truth, OP. All physical phenomena are a reflection of electromagnetism.
http://www.electricuniverse.info/Introduction

>> No.2585750

>>2585747
More specific link:
http://www.electricuniverse.info/Electric_Universe_theory

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2585767

>>2585690
you've got to be fucking kidding me

>> No.2585793

>>2585690
I must be high.

Normally, reading stuff like that makes me mad.
But today, all the dumb stuff like this I've read has just been making me laugh really hard.

>> No.2585797

>>2585742
its ok, it happens everytime you mention Gravitomagnetism

>> No.2585831

>>2585741
does a negative inertial mass mean it repels other mas or just that it reacts different to a force?

>> No.2585829

>>2585750
>>2585747
>wat

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2585901

An application of GEM you say?

>> No.2586052

There's an electrogravi generator idea, i have pics of blue print, one sec..

>> No.2586073

I remember when I went to a conspiracy website (abovetopsecret) and they argued that Gravity=Magnetism because of the earths iron core

Good times

>> No.2586089

>>2586073
>abovetopsecret
lol i went there, Tesla fuckers saying he found free energy and they new it, but no one had made it yet because governments..

Herp.

>> No.2586207

bump!

for abstract on GEM..

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2586245

>mfw EM can obviously be split into E & M

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2586255

Magnetars must stretch the GEM mathematics...

>On an unrelated note:
>http://www.scribd.com/doc/5349718/Impulse-Gravity-Generator

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2586266

GEM has something to do with the natural sheilding that the Earth has i think, the reason we have atmosphere, portected from cosmic rays, etc..

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2586274

>this thread

>> No.2586288

>>2585901
what the fuck is that supossed to be!?

>> No.2586315

>what the fuck
this whole thread

>> No.2586493

>>2585750
jesus christ its like apes throwing shit at each other.

>> No.2587078

>>2586239
>>2585901

EXPLAIN THESE IN DETAIL!

>> No.2587659

>#1 thread on /sci/