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What does /sci/ believe?

1. There are an infinite number of possible choices that have all been predetermined but you choose out of all the choices the one you want and forge a path

2. Everything you do is predetermined and you have no saw in what will happen. The future is written in stone.

3. You are a brain in a jar

>> No.2578668

3.

It makes so much sense. I'm surprised there are more solipsists.

>> No.2578667

That's all total bullshit.

>> No.2578671

4. All of you are simulated for my amusement

>> No.2578680

i rate them equally possible
can't know for sure at the moment

1. seems like an happy end to me
but i don't like happy ends so i would say 2. or 3.

>> No.2578691

time is proven a dimension. 2.

>> No.2578692

3 is unlikely.
2 is most likely, but not in the way you think it is. lack of free will does not mean you don't do what you want to do.
1 is as likely, but I don't think merely having different environment (and thus different choices) means free will. I believe that given the same environment, you will make the same choice (exact same environment means all past experiences).

Which essentially means I think a blend of 1 and 2 is most likely, but not exactly in the way you think (MWI does not mean "free choice", it merely means variable environment).

>> No.2578707

2. Everything you do is predetermined and you have no saw in what will happen. The future is written in stone.

The future may not be completely predetermined (there might be some random elements), but either way, I don't see how free will is possible. Even if there are infinite universes to "choose" from, what gives me, a glorified ape, the power to "chose?"

>> No.2578741

The free will debate is pointless and irrelevant. It changes nothing. You still have executive functions, and you would still face the negative consequences of not using them for prudent self-control. It has nothing to do with "free will".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_functions

>> No.2578742

>>2578668
Number 3 isn't solopsism.

>> No.2578750

>>2578653
You are a brain in a Jar. I am an ambulatory human.

>> No.2578757

>>2578742
>>2578750

Then again, maybe it is.

>> No.2578762

1.

>> No.2578763

>>2578741
Self-control is never prudent, only necessary.

>> No.2578768

I am IN a brain in a jar.

The jar just happens to be shaped like a head and it's connected to a life-support system that's shaped like a body.

>> No.2578772

>>2578763
You fail to understand what "self-control" means.

What should you do when part of you wants something, but executive and rational faculties tell you it is a bad idea in the long run?

Stop worshipping your base impulses.

>> No.2578775

Give me some theories that are actually testable and I may pick one to believe in.

>> No.2578786

>>2578772
>implying that an act is necessary to prevent an action

Lazy faggot Jevvtard detected. POOR YOU, YOU HAVE TO -TRY- NOT TO RAPE CHILDREN LIKE THE PEDOPHILE YOU HAVE TO -TRY- NOT TO BE.

>> No.2578789

>>2578786
So, you deny the existence of executive functions?

OK.

>> No.2578791

>>2578786
>>2578772
>What should you do when part of you wants something, but executive and rational faculties tell you it is a bad idea in the long run?
Answer the question.

>> No.2578802

>>2578789
SO, YOU DENY THE EXISTENCE OF COMMON-SENSE.

OH-TAY.

>> No.2578808

>>2578791
I starve, even if I cooked the feast that I decided not to partake of.

>> No.2578815

>>2578802
Saging for troll, or just answer the damn question
>>2578791

>> No.2578825

>>2578815
I did. You didn't notice, because you're a fucking failure at psychology.

Don't study it, you will only hurt people.

>> No.2578943

We dont *belive*. We seek answer.