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2572101 No.2572101 [Reply] [Original]

anyone ever been to the creationism museum in KY?

i live close by and am curious to check it out

>> No.2572106

i really want to

>> No.2572105

like the rest of KY, it's a huge load of crap

>> No.2572108

>Creationism Museum
>Museum: a depository for collecting and displaying objects having scientific or historical or artistic value

>implying Christian doctrines have any of this

>> No.2572113

>>2572108
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffX9msPCwZk

>> No.2572114

>>2572108
>implying creationism isn't a valid theory
>implying poster's religion invalidates arguments

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>>2572114
>implying it is
>implying it doesn't

>> No.2572121

>>2572114
Proof?
No?

wow that was hard

>> No.2572229

I can't help but notice the complete lack of nigger in OPs pic of what I presume is Adam & Eve.

>> No.2572245

/b/ raid thread

>>>/b/310756473

>> No.2572260

millions of tax dollars.

lol america.

>> No.2572261

>creationism
>assumes that only the bible can be right
>wants to be regarded as scientific
If creationists never mentioned god in their work, maybe they would be more credible. But since they're essentially the modern scholastics (back in the dark ages monks would try and explain the existence of god through scientific reasoning), a relic of the past, no one takes them seriously.

>> No.2572279

>>2572261
>back in the dark ages monks would try and explain the existence of god through scientific reasoning
You honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, do you?

>> No.2572304

>>2572261
>try to be scientific w/o saying 'God'

Ohai, you must have never heard of Intelligent Design.

We just refer to them as IDiots.

>> No.2572308

>>2572101
they just state their own interpretation of the bible as a scientific fact

>> No.2572341

creationism is just as valid as any other THEORY like
that THEORY of evolution.
You can't prove it wrong.
One day you will see that creationism is righht and life can't just randomly appear or intelligent life can come from monkeys.
I didn't realise so many were unenlightened how is it not a valid theory you have no evidence!

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>>2572101
>creationism museum

Fuck no. I'd rather kill myself.

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>>2572341

>creationism is just as valid as any other THEORY


anymore jokes?

>> No.2572361

>>2572341
0/10

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>>2572101
>>2572101

>> No.2572375

>>2572101
I live close to but if I ever go it would be the free day. No reason to give these idiots your money.

>> No.2572382

>>2572341
A theory is just a theory, true. But empiric facts can validate or refute it. If you don't get why creationism has been refuted you really need some mental help. And evolution is a valid theory by the moment. BTW Darwinism is not exactly the same as nowaday's evolution theory.

>> No.2572387

1. The evolution model proposes that about 15 billion years ago, somehow, everything came into
existence, all in a ball of mass. Then this ball of mass somehow began to expand, which is referred
to as the big bang.
a. Note the use of the word “somehow.” Scientifically, we are forced to use such a word because
there is no scientific explanation for where the original matter came from, or what caused it to
suddenly begin expanding. It is a matter of faith that somehow matter came into existence
through natural processes.
2. The model of evolution then proposes that about 4.6 billion years ago the earth and solar system
evolved into existence by natural processes.
3. Then about 3.5 billion years ago the first living cell evolved from lifeless chemicals, again by
natural processes.
4. Finally, the model of evolution proposes that we were not made in the image of God, but that we
evolved from tree shrews through ape-like creatures.

We all know that evolution is what is being taught in our
education system.
- The sad part is that our children are being taught, as fact,
that they are the product of a chance accident that occurred
billions of years ago.
- They are being taught that they are not made in the image of God, but are a product of a long chain
of chance events.
- This alone should alarm all Christians because children are being taught from first grade through
college that there is no need for a Creator God.

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>>2572387
>Confuses Biological Evolution with the Big bang theory

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>>2572387

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>>2572387
pathetic troll

>> No.2572402

>>2572387
So instead teach them that a magical man who is all-powerful yet so insignificant in the universes existance that whether he exists or not doesn't affect anything at all ever, cast a magic spell to poof everything into existance then dissapeared...

This magical man also has to be the same one you believe in am I correct?

Because those other imaginary magical men are bad but yours is somehow good, and real.

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>>2572387

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>>2572387
Kill yourself now

>> No.2572418

>>2572387
The worst par of the nazi period is that Hitler didn't put christians in gass chambers too.

>> No.2572425

I can't even help you poor people. I don't know if you are trolling...
here is all the proof you need
http://www.truthnet.org/

http://www.truthnet.org/pdf/creation/processforcreation.pdf

just admit your theory of evolution is equal to creationism

BTW OP check out the museum you will learn a lot

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>>2572425
Nice trolling bro

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>>2572425

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>>2572425
Leave /sci/ now.

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>>2572101
>>2572425

>> No.2572456

When we look at the process for creation (how everything came into existence), the evolution model
claims that TIME plus CHANCE and NATURAL PROCESSES are all that is needed.
- This model is based on naturalism/materialism and holds to the following:
- Nobody times nothing equals everything. There is no design and no purpose.
- God was not involved at all in the creation of the universe.
- Everything can be explained in terms of natural processes.
- Ask a naturalist what he believes about the
beginning of all things, and you will likely
hear about the big bang theory and
evolution. Belief in these theories are
strongly held despite the lack of answers
to questions such as these:
- What was the first cause that caused
everything else?
- Where did the matter come from?
- Where did energy come from?
- Why hasn’t the universe wound
down?
- What is keeping it going?
- Why hasn’t entropy caused it to
devolve? Instead it is developing
into a more orderly and increasingly
sophisticated system.

You can't argue with God.
I am going to leave now though i wish i could stay longer and debate as i know there are probably some rational reasonable people on this board. Sorry.

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>>2572425
You're comments are worse then CP. Your parents should be murdered for the shitty job they did raising you.

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>>2572108
>implying this has no artistic value

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>>2572456
Nice copypasta bro!

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>>2572456
Shouldn't you be out raping young boys?

>> No.2572475

>>2572462
If I had to chose either no religion inspired art or no holocaust, crusades, or spanish inquisition?

I think I'd take millions of innocent lives tortured and killed in the name of imaginary sky-daddy any day.

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2572488

>>2572475
>therefore this is not art

>> No.2572503

I live like 15 minutes from there. Never been, but I see so many fucking people with those sweatshirts/tee shirts it frightens me.

>> No.2572520

>>2572475
>spanish inquisition

3000 deaths during 400 years of existence.

Nice black legend, bro.

>> No.2572523

>>2572520
>implying that's okay

>> No.2572529

>>2572520
you are only off by a few 0's

Try again

>> No.2572532

>>2572523
>Implying that is even remotely comparable to crusades and holocaust

>> No.2572543

I'd fuck that eve doll until her limbs broke off.

>> No.2572566

>>2572529
NOPE.avi

According the written sources from the spanish national history archive, taking by Garcia Carcel (the most renown researcher about the subject) there were some 150000 inquisition trials between the XV and XIX centuries. Taking the highest execution rate during the existance of the inquisition (2% during 1560-1700) it results an estimated (overstimated) number of 3000 executions during 400 years of existance.
In comparation, the protestants inquisitions along the globe killed just in concept of "witchery" over 45000 people JUST in the XVIIth century.

So yeah, black legend. Black legend everywhere.

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2572606

>- What was the first cause that caused
everything else?
>- Where did the matter come from?
>- Where did energy come from?
These are actually good points, that not every person - let alone every creationist - could be expected to know the answer to. That's a really good hole to poke in the big bang theory! How can, by conservation of mass/energy, one start with zero and end with everything. Checkmate scientists!

Oh wait. What energy? The net sum of energy/matter is zero in the universe. The universe is flat, +-2%. It could have come from nothing, without any energy input.
>But, but, you still need a first cause! You can't start with nothing and end with everything! Someone had to set it going!
Except not. If you have an endless expanse of nothing, eventually you get something. Quantum mechanics says so. The state of having absolutely nothing is highly unstable, and will result in lots of somethings and anti-somethings with a net sum of zero somethings.

Educate yourselves, my pretties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFRKPlZMavE

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>>2572606
>never took an advanced physics course

>still thinks consevration of mass/energy is a law of physics

LMFAO

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>>2572341
>>2572387
>>2572456
>This is what evolution is~!
Would everyone in this thread please save this image for future reference?

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>>2572606

>> No.2572713

I'd pay a lot for a doll like that "eve".

>> No.2572725

>>2572634
I saved it to troll /x/ with.

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2572726

>raid thread
>unintentionally turns into successful troll thread

>> No.2572734

>>2572634
unreadable

>> No.2572764

>>2572734
get glasses
learn2read

>> No.2572765

>>2572713
http://www.realdoll.com/

>> No.2573194

>>2572387
This guy actually has a point.

>> No.2573223

I don't get it, even if you believe in creationism, why would you take it as science?! It's not even about validity, but what can they even show there? just random pictures and a caption that says "God made this"?!

Hell, I believe in god and this is just ridicules!

>> No.2573250

I get 100dollars a day to post christian stuff on forums by the moron church.

>> No.2573274

you should go, i would love to

i heard that there are dinosaurs living with humans, it must be a hilarious place to be

>> No.2573277

According to creationism:

The T-rex existed 3200 years ago and jesus used him as a horse.

PS: T-rex was a kind animal that only ate grass.

>> No.2573281

>>2573250
if only this were true we'd all be mormons and we'd all be rich

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2573302

>>2572341
>>2572387
>>2572425
>>2572456

>> No.2573314

>>2572341
>that THEORY of evolution.
>You can't prove it wrong.
Bunnies.
In.
The.
Cambrian.

>> No.2573315

>>2573302
>implying i'm not an atheist trolling other atheists..