What do you lot think first contact is going to be like? Good or bad? And who will it be good or bad for?

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Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:30:47 2011 No.2525359 [Reply] [Original]

What do you lot think first contact is going to be like? Good or bad? And who will it be good or bad for?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:33:47 2011 No.2525375 Prime directive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:33:47 2011 No.2525377 already happened its enslaving humanity slowly good and bad are irrelevant concepts

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:35:47 2011 No.2525381 I'm with Hawking. First contact is going to be incredibly bad for us.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:35:47 2011 No.2525386 File: 1.47 MB, 1674x1370, img001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:35:47 2011 No.2525391 >>2525377 extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence /x/ is over there ->

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:36:47 2011 No.2525394

Good in my opinion.

I mean for intelligent life to physically make contact with us, they'd have to be thousands, possibly millions of years ahead of us. The only way they could be sort of close technology-wise to us is if they lived on a planet close to us (you know what I mean by this). But that's unlikely since we've scouted all around us for planets that could have life, unless the alien species didn't need water.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:37:47 2011 No.2525398 File: 1.42 MB, 1696x1444, img002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:37:47 2011 No.2525399 It would be too complex a situation to be judged except with hindsight. Pretty sure it'll happen hundreds of years from now and that our side of the contact will not be what we would now call human.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:37:47 2011 No.2525402 >>2525391 >pretending an advanced race trying to enslave humanity would allow evidence to be presented

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:38:47 2011 No.2525411

>>2525394

I don't think they'd really need to be that far ahead of us. Remember, if the Dark Ages had never happened, we'd be far better off than we are right now. A lot of progress was reversed and stopped when the Library at Alexandria was destroyed, and then even more when Rome fell.

If the Dark Ages had never happened, who knows? We might be venturing out into the stars right now.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:40:47 2011 No.2525421 I don't think they'll even acknowledge us. They'll just come here and say "hey look at these cool natural formations", and proceed to do their own business (i.e. mining etc).

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:41:47 2011 No.2525426 File: 822 KB, 1384x1196, img005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:41:47 2011 No.2525428
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I think it's going to be bad, because when the aliens leave, there is going to be a whole mess of religions that spring up to worship them with an agenda to take over the world.

Oh wait, this already happened a few thousand years ago
(The gods are aliens)

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:41:47 2011 No.2525429

In my opinion, first contact will resemble the first contact of a human walking through a forest and kneeling at an ant hill. With us as the ants.

We won't know what we're seeing, we they won't offer us greatness, it will be rather uneventful, because all they will think is "look at the small little ants running about their bussiness"

And maybe they'll kick the anthill

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:42:47 2011 No.2525431 Why would they need to enslave us? I mean if I'm not mistaken humans aren't incredibly far from being able to eliminate most manual labor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:42:47 2011 No.2525433 >>2525402 >pretending your not a 12 year old with romantic dreams of sci fi aliens and ftl

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:43:47 2011 No.2525437 More chance of bad than good I think. I think "good" advanced races would avoid us seeing how "barbaric" and backwards we are...and that those most likely to contact us will be the ones who want our resources and will take them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:43:47 2011 No.2525438 They probably already know we're here. When you go to the zoo, do you announce yourself to the animals? It's as simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:45:47 2011 No.2525442 >>2525431 Who's saying they would? I'm of the opinion that they'd wipe us out and take the planet.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:46:47 2011 No.2525443 >>2525438 >implying animals are not herded into the zoo >implying animals don't know >implying the proper analogy wouldn't be slapping an invisible, intangible dome over a biome

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:46:47 2011 No.2525444 >>2525437 So you think that life is more common then natural resources throughout the universe? I mean if they traveled so far and came to earth there must be something very special here. What does earth have that most planets in the universe do not?

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:46:47 2011 No.2525448
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>>2525438

They came a long time ago and told us how to live happy prosperous lives. We, for the moost part, have shat pn what theey taught us.

See >>2525428

When they come back, there will be a HUGE change in the status quo (goodbye capitalism and greed)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:47:47 2011 No.2525451 >>2525444 vaginas

Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:48:47 2011 No.2525454

ITT: Nutty nutty nutjobs with dreams of help coming from supa srs aliens from the stars.

Grow the fuck up. This is supposed to be /sci/, if you don't share the HUMANITY FUCK YEAH / FUCKING LUDDITES feeling, then please proceed to vacate the premises.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:48:47 2011 No.2525456 first contact will be made when we create a giant satellite array on the back side of the moon and pick up a radio signal from hundreds-thousands of years ago. Religion will cease. It will be great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:49:47 2011 No.2525458 >>2525454 >implying aliens didn't steal your girlfriend >girlfriend >/sci/ >HAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:50:47 2011 No.2525460 >>2525454 as if there hasent been a millions threads created in the past about about aliens, stop acting newfaggishly

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:50:47 2011 No.2525462 File: 168 KB, 644x800, 1272166131872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525458 Hey fuck you buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:51:47 2011 No.2525464 >>2525448 >>2525428 >checks to see if moot closed down /x/ >nope, it's still there. weird.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:51:47 2011 No.2525465 >>2525460 I know, but it still gets to me that there are people on /sci/ who still believe in the zoo hypotheses and gasp faster-than-light travel. What's next? People discussing James Lovelock? Buying Deepak Chopra books?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:51:47 2011 No.2525467 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cF4p_pMfcs

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:52:47 2011 No.2525476

The one thing that's for certain is that all modern religion will cease to exist. It will all be wiped out in one fell swoop.

Whether first contact is good or bad, the stark, existential terror of it will invalidate all current religious thinking.

Besides, can you imagine how hilarious it would be to have a Christian approach an emissary from beyond the stars and ask, "Did you know that Christ loved you so much he died on the cross for your sins?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:55:47 2011 No.2525492 File: 207 KB, 876x1022, C3po_god_shirt_approved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The polytheistic gods of ancient civilizations were aliens. George lucas even knew this. Pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:55:47 2011 No.2525494 File: 276 KB, 1600x1200, Kzinti_lesson.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First contact with extrasolar intellect? I'm sure the experience will be an... educational one. For both sides. Pic related. <3 Niven

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:56:47 2011 No.2525495 >>2525386 >>2525398 >>2525412 >>2525416 >>2525426 What is this book and where can I find a copy?

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 21:56:47 2011 No.2525501 >>2525495 I don't mean to offend, but the headers say "Charles Pellegrino -- Flying to Valhalla".

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:58:47 2011 No.2525509 File: 44 KB, 400x400, C__fakepath_IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525492¥ That explains this movie

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:58:47 2011 No.2525510 >>2525429 This is a good analogy

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 21:59:47 2011 No.2525514 I don't know, I'd rather ask the question, what would humans do if we found another race, far less civilized than us? Probably just not contact them, unless we needed their planet. If that was the case, we'd kill all of them and take it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:00:47 2011 No.2525518

First contact.

Resources, no all rocky bodies will have those Earth is not Elementally special.

Slave labor, no machine labor is just better.

Curiosity/scientific, maybe, but then we'll never see them.

Religious purge, I think this is honestly the most likely, and the worst for us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:00:47 2011 No.2525519 >>2525464 You know what man, when they come back and tell us about how they were here before but forgot everything they taught us, I'm going to come back here and make a "told you so" thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:02:47 2011 No.2525524 >>2525514 Why wouldn't we? I think it would be amazing to find another intelligent species, no matter how advanced they are.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:02:47 2011 No.2525525

>>2525476
>The one thing that's for certain is that all modern religion will cease to exist.

I don't think that's certain at all. In fact, I think it's extremely unlikely. In FACT, I doubt there would be that many more atheists. A decent percentage of humans manage to still think the Earth is 6000 years old, in 2011. What makes you think introducing more contradictory facts is going to change anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:02:47 2011 No.2525526 >Besides, can you imagine how hilarious it would be to have a Christian approach an emissary from beyond the stars and ask, "Did you know that Christ loved you so much he died on the cross for your sins?" God, I fucking hope somebody records it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:04:47 2011 No.2525540 >>2525525 Hinduism won't cease to exist, their gods are the aliens! They're just gonna be laughing at all of us.

>>	снайпер Sat Feb 12 22:05:47 2011 No.2525544 File: 176 KB, 809x1200, adrian_smith_the_bleeding_chalice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525518 >Religious purge, I think this is honestly the most likely, and the worst for us. Suffer not the xeno to live

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:06:47 2011 No.2525545 There will be no First Contact. Femi Paradox foreveralone.jpeg

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:06:47 2011 No.2525546
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Aliens have already contacted us.

Check out this crop circle found near arecibo space telescope.

It says "Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN But Still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We oppose DECEPTION. COnduit CLOSING"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:06:47 2011 No.2525547 First ask yourself "Why would aliens want to make contact with Earth?" The answers can be: 1) Because they're friendly neighbors (hah) 2) We have something they want

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:06:47 2011 No.2525550 >>2525526 You won't be laughing when the Aliums convert to Catholicism and wage a terrible holy war for control of Rome and Jerusalem.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:07:47 2011 No.2525553

IF they contact us first, we're probably fucked.

If we find them first, they're fucked.

We probably won't contact anyone for another few hundred years though. I get really depressed when I think that we might be the most technological advanced species in the universe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:07:47 2011 No.2525554 >>2525501 You, sir, have offended me for the final time. I declare e-Jihad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:07:47 2011 No.2525555 >>2525514 How do we know aliens are like humans at all? Mentally or physically?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:08:47 2011 No.2525559 >>2525525 I'd love to see how the Creationists rationalize away an intergalactic species that has existed for hundreds of thousands of years longer than we have, with it all carefully, thoroughly documented.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:08:47 2011 No.2525560

>>2525526
I know for a fact that the catholic church has stated that if extraterrestrial life is found it does not violate dogma, and because of human original sin they might not have had a need for a savior, it might have just been man that fucked up. But if they did then alien jesus would have been equally christian to worship. So its cool to worship alien jesus, guys.

Plus in islam angles are described as "beings of light" that are seperate from humans. Aliens under the authority of god, if you will.

As a final note, polls and research state that while there would be some loss, a majority of religious people today would still retain those beliefs

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:10:47 2011 No.2525564

>>2525544
Exactly. And for us, but a human in the background and that toothy monster in the foreground striking a heroic pose.

Faith in the unseen is an artifact of our ape brains growing true consciousness, I'd suspect other intelligent things will have it too.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:11:47 2011 No.2525567

>>2525560
I doubt it. The only religions I can see still being around are Buddhism and the like. I remember the Pope saying that if aliens were real and we made contact, he'd try to baptize them. And that would create a bunch of other problems. Plus human elitism. After all, the three books do state that "god created man in his image".

>>	снайпер Sat Feb 12 22:13:47 2011 No.2525578 File: 419 KB, 556x800, 1296575195261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525567 I don't think you understand the depths of delusion that religious folk can sink to.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:13:47 2011 No.2525581
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The aliens are probably way older than our species.
I wonder what kind of religious beliefs they have, if any.

What if they were like intergalactic jehovah's witnesses? Now that would suck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:15:47 2011 No.2525587 >>2525581 Have you ever played spore? What if they were like the spode beleivers. Pay a non believer tax or die!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:16:47 2011 No.2525591 >>2525581 If they're anything like us, they will have many, many deeply stupid beliefs. If we're lucky, none of them will involve exterminating non-aliums as being blasphemous in the eyes of the LORD.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:16:47 2011 No.2525592

>>2525567

if the pope/religitards tried to do that, religion would end in a second, not from the aliens themselves, but from regular people, anybody supporting that idea would be shot in the street the same day...

mostly because the aliens would be the new gods and everyone would be disowning those old-fag god(s) real quick

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:17:47 2011 No.2525593 >>2525587 >Pay a non believer tax or die! So... muslims?

снайпер Sat Feb 12 22:17:47 2011 No.2525598
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>>2525581
To be honest, I think if aliens do have any religious beliefs, that they would trend towards something like Buddhism.

Less "herp derp you go to hell and everyone is a sinner" and more spiritual/self enlightenment.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:18:47 2011 No.2525599

>>2525540
You don't know much about hinduism, do you? The gods are individual manifestations that human being can comprehend, but are all part of the larger "ultimate reality" called brahman. This could be thought of as a force, or abrahamic god, but not aliens independent of one another.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:18:47 2011 No.2525600

>>2525581

Hahahaha

The ship lands. Huge event. Press everywhere. All the worlds leaders are assembled to great the emissary. Then it steps out of the ship, it's holding a book and it says, in its language, "I have good news for you all! Etc."

Amazing.

>>	Jonny !!7WXrmZAqF1n Sat Feb 12 22:19:47 2011 No.2525608 won't happen. just my opinion. the closest planets are so far away, light years and light years. I don't believe in wormholes and theories like that, so I think they won't ever get ehre, if they are near as civilized.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:19:47 2011 No.2525610 >>2525567 The "created in his image" phrase" refers to man's dominion over nature, not characteristics.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:20:47 2011 No.2525614
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>>2525592

Plus the aliens would probably kill the religious leaders. See>>2525546

>Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN But Still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We oppose DECEPTION. COnduit CLOSING

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:20:47 2011 No.2525618 >>2525599 Exactly. I'm a Christian, but I love Hinduism. It's an awesome religion.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:21:47 2011 No.2525620

>>2525599

hinduism doesn't relate the gods directly to aliens, it just talks a shit-ton about great ancient peoples and cities in the sky and shit like this

its similar for judeo-christians, aliens relate more to angels and great ancient figures than to god specifically

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:22:47 2011 No.2525621 >>2525618 >he has imaginary friends laughinggirls.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:23:47 2011 No.2525629 File: 7 KB, 640x480, 12lys.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525608 yep... light years and light years away

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:23:47 2011 No.2525631

>>2525546
How did the aliens learn ASCII and English? And since they were writing an English message, why didn't they just use the latin letters? (oh, wait, maybe it's because 0100100101110100001000000111011101100001011100110110111000100111011101000010000001100001011011000110
100101100101011011100111001100101110)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:24:47 2011 No.2525633 File: 15 KB, 506x350, yk2 daemon you've got to be kidding me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525546 >mfw he believes in crop circles

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:24:47 2011 No.2525635
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>>2525598

Buddhism is a direct rip off of hinduism, which worships the aliens as gods.

If you want alien knowledge, read the vedas.

>>2525599

I am a hindu. You don't know what you are talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:25:47 2011 No.2525643 If they come to earth "bearing the good news" you can bet your ass I'm getting on my knees and praying

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:26:47 2011 No.2525648 >>2525620 Hindu gods are blue. They live in the heavens (space) Sounds like aliens to me

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:26:47 2011 No.2525651 >>2525621 >he's 12 nunslaughing.pcx

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:26:47 2011 No.2525653 >>2525648 KRISHNA is blue, he is not all hindu gods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:27:47 2011 No.2525655 >>2525635 Are you just a teenager who went weeboo for india?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:28:47 2011 No.2525659 >>2525653 There's also green ones and ones with animals as faces. Sounds like aliens to me

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Feb 12 22:28:47 2011 No.2525663 Shut the fuck up about religion. This thread is about first contact you dolts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:29:47 2011 No.2525664 >>2525659 By that logic, the Egyptian gods were aliens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:30:47 2011 No.2525669 File: 11 KB, 350x350, 02Rp2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525655 If you read the vedas you would understand... Fucking westerners and their superiority complex. Won't even look at other cultures that they deem inferior.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:31:47 2011 No.2525674 >>2525664 Exactly. Each culture that encountered the aliens applied their own culture to the lessons the aliens taught them Polytheism is common around the ancient world for a reason

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:34:47 2011 No.2525691 >>2525635 I'm hindu also but I think that guy has the right idea. You're just on crack bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:35:47 2011 No.2525698 File: 106 KB, 500x238, madonna-ufo-art2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first contact has already been made /sci/ get with the program

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:37:47 2011 No.2525708 >>2525691 Why is it unreasonable to assume the hindu gods are aliens? Sounds more feasible than the whole jesus thing

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:37:47 2011 No.2525711
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I can say, with almost 100% certainty, that we will never see even a simple form of alien life.

It's not just the mind-blowing size of our universe, it's the time. What are the odds of ever seeing an intelligent civilization in the incredibly small time-window it exists WITHIN reasonable range?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:40:47 2011 No.2525725 >>2525711 Aliens could very well be literally living next door. All we're doing is examining planets that have earth-like qualities, aliens could not need water, to breath, be able to live in intense climate, not even need food.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:41:47 2011 No.2525728 File: 59 KB, 400x300, lord_rama4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525711 WE FUCKING ALREADY HAVE

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:42:47 2011 No.2525730

>>2525674

Polythiesm is not common because of aliens, its common because when cavemen saw thunder, they though cloud spirits were angry, floods were angry river spirits, and after awhile a collective river spirit became a river god. The next flood became a chronicle of that god's wrath, and it gained a personality and was anthropomorphized.

It is far, far, more likely than aliums

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:42:47 2011 No.2525733

>>2525674

Polytheism is common around the world because their morality saw only competing forces that could never be castigated into the value system of "Good" and "Evil".

Resenters of the worlds created a category of Evil as a form of mental revenge against a field they could not entirely dominate for themselves. Thus one has to have a single God waging war against Evil, any category of beings and behavior that the resentful find so utterly unbearable as to make the devious wish of WISHING THEY HAD NEVER EXISTED.

To submerge this all-too human behavior as something inspired by aliens is another aspect of the resentful, who could not stand a world without the utopian promise of aliens who know more than the mendacious suffering ape.

What use does a winner of this world have for aliens? None but a loser of this world has MANY uses, many images of revenge and resentment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:44:47 2011 No.2525739 >>2525728 0/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:44:47 2011 No.2525740 >>2525728 Notice how they all have the same exact face. Perhaps whoever drew that could not pick up subtle traits that show individuality. Something that humans can only do for other humans.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:46:47 2011 No.2525742
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>>2525733
>>2525730

Wrong. This is what we think about the time when looking back in retrospect.

You have no proof that it wasn't aliens nor do you have proof that what you are saying is correct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:46:47 2011 No.2525743 >>2525730 >>2525733 ONTOLOGICAL RELIGION FIGHT!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:47:47 2011 No.2525745 Bad. Demographically, most people on earth are idiots. Therefore, if contact is random, they'll most likely contact an idiot and destroy our world as a result.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:47:47 2011 No.2525747 >>2525740 Drawings are made by humans and are not accurate depictions, merely symbolic representations

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:48:47 2011 No.2525748 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDijb91Jfs#t=6m13s

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:48:47 2011 No.2525749 >>2525733 >>2525730 Trolled hard. Why do you fags bother answering these sub-/x/ morons?

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:49:47 2011 No.2525752

>>2525742

My argument about resentment is FUCKING OBVIOUS to anyone with an ounce of intelligence regarding the human psychology.

I have no proof it WASN'T FUCKING ELVES AND LEPERCHAUNS but somehow even that possibility is more likely than the MENDACIOUS MOVE OF POSTULATING A NUMBER OF BEINGS WHO TRAVELED GREAT COSMIC DISTANCES TO TEACH THE POOR APE, something which INSULTS THE ACTUAL WINNERS OF HISTORY, THOSE WHO LABOURED AND MASTERED THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND BODIES TO DOMINATE FUTURE GENERATIONS.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:50:47 2011 No.2525755

>>2525742
You're straining my patience, no, I cannot disprove that a magical blue person came to our ancestors and, despite being a super advanced species did nothing but helped them make pyramids. I cannot disprove your irrationality, but a can say with a large amount of certainty, that I would bet against the possibility of ancient aliens

>>	Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT Sat Feb 12 22:51:47 2011 No.2525760 >>2525663 Coffee Mug! I am trying to get in touch with you! Answer your IRC. We got blue people to burn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:51:47 2011 No.2525762 >>2525752 I'm obviously not going to convince you. Just know that if and when they come back and tell everybody about how they were here before, I will be fucking laughing my ass off knowing that you are a dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:53:47 2011 No.2525769 >>2525740 Or perhaps this picture (as with >>2525698) was drawn far after the event the picture is depicting would have taken place. The vedas were written before anyone had the capabilities to draw anything like that

>>	снайпер Sat Feb 12 22:53:47 2011 No.2525770 File: 350 KB, 1024x576, 1296752460098.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525635 >Buddhism is a direct rip off of hinduism, which worships the aliens as gods. wtfamireading.jpg Buddhism doesn't even involve the worship of gods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:53:47 2011 No.2525771 >>2525762 Until that day comes, we will all be laughing OUR asses off at your retardation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:54:47 2011 No.2525777 >>2525770 Some forms of Buddhism do. And its hard to deny that Buddhism was born out of a rejection of the hedonistic degeneracy of contemporary Hinduism.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:54:47 2011 No.2525778
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Well... if the reason for the Fermi paradox is simply that no other intelligent life evolved within range of us... first contact could be from the more advanced position for us. It could be quite a bit like Avatar, though without the weak plot, incompetent characters, and hybrid remote controlled aliens. We might just be the most advanced species in our neck of the woods. When we do meet an advanced (spacefaring) civilization though, they're likely to be far more advanced or so advanced we'd barely recognize them. THEN AGAIN if Vinge, Kurtzweil, and company are right; then the singularity might be the big stepping stone to being able to communicate with/join said super advanced species.

Really, I hope first contact will be like when Europeans first really encountered and started trading with the Chinese Empire.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:55:47 2011 No.2525780 >>2525747 True, but when any artist draws a picture of multiple people they tend to differ at least slightly in their facial traits.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:56:47 2011 No.2525784

>>2525725
The next planet that is suspected to have liquid water and reasonable temperatures is 500 light years away. There are 46 others within the range of 500-10,000 light years.

Maybe on one of these there was once an advanced form of life for say, 50,000 years and we missed it by a mere 5 million years. Maybe it exists right now and is wondering the same thing we do. Highly improbable, but even if that was the case, we will never have any kind of traveling technology that would allow us to scout any of these planets. And they won't either.

Maybe someone even visited out planet 2 billion years ago and found nothing. There are definitely at least a couple million intelligent species in our universe but even with that number it's highly improbably any of them found each other.

It is incredibly rude and arrogant for humans to think alien life would give a flying fuck about us. It's stupid to think any alien life with technology that allows them to travel those incredible distances would do as much as "observe" us as if we were any kind of threat or that they could learn something from us. It's even more stupid to thing "the government is hiding it and is making contracts with aliens" or some shit. But the most arrogant and ignorant thing to claim however is to portrait aliens as humanoids with 2 legs, 2 arms a head and two eyes.

I notice that even I can't help but project human motives and behavior on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:56:47 2011 No.2525786 >>2525770 Buddhism just takes the hindu beliefs that don't involve gods. The buddha himself was a hindu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 22:56:47 2011 No.2525790 >>2525755 Not the guy you're replying to but I like how you added the word "magical" in there. Something most atheists use to discredit religion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:01:47 2011 No.2525812 >>2525790 There is no difference between magic and religion.

снайпер Sat Feb 12 23:02:47 2011 No.2525815
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>>2525777
What? No. There aren't *any* forms of Buddhism that worship gods.

The absolute closest you can get is Mahayana Buddhism where Buddha isn't seen as entirely human but as partially a spiritual being. But still *not* a god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Buddhism

Buddhism is an atheist religion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:04:47 2011 No.2525825 this link right here is proof aliens came here 2000 years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmWk9ttLX3I

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:04:47 2011 No.2525826 >>2525812 Yes but why do you assume aliens are magical? It kind of discredits your entire argument.

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You know what would be amazing? If the emissaries that touch down are a bit on the assholish side, and tell everyone that yes, they have been around to Earth before.

Problem, Planet Earth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:06:47 2011 No.2525836 File: 27 KB, 255x255, hinduism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2525815 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Hinduism BUDDHISM CAME FROM HINDUISM READ THAT ARTICLE

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>>2525826

This isn't the same person.

Hindu gods are aliens.

Hinduism is a diverse system of thought with beliefs spanning monotheism, polytheism, panentheism, pantheism, monism, atheism, agnosticism, gnosticism among others;[68][69][70][71] and its concept of God is complex and depends upon each particular tradition and philosophy. It is sometimes referred to as henotheistic (i.e., involving devotion to a single god while accepting the existence of others), but any such term is an overgeneralization.[72]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:10:47 2011 No.2525854 >>2525846 Thanks, but that seems completely irrelevant to what I was asking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:17:47 2011 No.2525898 >>2525826 I don't, I was simply remarking on the childish stupidity ancient alien believers have towards this kind of thing.

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:18:47 2011 No.2525902

Does "first contact" imply intelligent life? I'll assume it does.

I do agree with Hawking and others evaluation of this situation where intelligent life will likely be far more advanced than we are. If we were to bump in to intelligent life right now, I think we might be in trouble... but our technology is advancing quickly.

Give us 50 to 100 years and I think the Human race will probably have made the important, endgame technological advancements in the energy, propulsion, computation and materials sciences that will enable us to not be so helpless.

Relevant to this topic is the question: "If intelligent life is out there, where are they?" I think it's an interesting question that I instinctively dismissed as blind skepticism but later realized really is a good question if you're just considering your local neighborhood of stars; even with the cosmic speed limit, even just 1 sufficiently advanced civilization would likely sprawl across 10s of star systems within 100 to 200 years after making the appropriate technological advancements enabling relativistic travel. And it seems like there would be many more than just 1. On the flip side of the coin, though, if you just consider the Human presence on earth as an analog, there are still, to this day, hundreds of tribes around the world that remain completely uncontacted by industrialized civilization.... I think it's equally possible that advanced civilizations exist in our local neighborhood and humans are somewhat of a "lost tribe".

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:20:47 2011 No.2525926 >>2525846 Hindu gods are parts of brahman that are simple enough to be understood by human intelligence

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:22:47 2011 No.2525938 My waifu is an alien. I hope to meet her someday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:25:47 2011 No.2525956 >>2525938 1/10

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:26:47 2011 No.2525960

>>2525902
I consider everyone who still believes that the earth is 6000 years old *cough*40% of americans*cough* as a different, subhuman tribe who does not deserve to benefit from modern technology. You can't deny all scientific discoveries for a white bearded man in the sky and still use electricity, computers, cars, GPS, cellphones etc.

Also they are by no means ready for something like the technology that will be available within the next 50 years. We are (and by we I mean the very, very few smart people) indeed advancing so fast that most of the world is literally still stuck in the 70s when it comes to anything computer and technology related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:34:47 2011 No.2526011 pew pew bzzzz

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:35:47 2011 No.2526021 >>2525960 yea, amish people are legit tho.

It was the Linguists, part I Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:57:47 2011 No.2526197

Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if we hadn't been each other's First Contacts. Virgin civilizations, groping each other in the dark.

"Damn it, damn it, damn it," the smaller of the two men moaned, his head down in his arms on the broken table, as the sounds coming in through the half-boarded-up window swelled louder.

"If they wanted to destroy us, why didn't they just send a missle, an asteroid, a fucking army?"

The taller man took another drink from the bottle in his hand, staring without seeing at the window.

"We started it, you know."

"Bastards, bastards."

"We nearly destroyed them."

"Should have."

It was the Linguists, part II Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:58:47 2011 No.2526202

"It was the linguists," his voice was rough and slow, detached, almost toneless, "that went out in the first starship. We taught the Tanatha suicide."

"Bastards." The sounds outside moved away a bit, grew softer.

"Their language was utterly alien. No reflexive forms, strange verb tenses. Eventually they learned enough of it to try to ask them questions, eventually they asked them what their word was for 'suicide'. They didn't have one."

"Bullshit."

"They didn't. They had no reflexive forms, and 'to be' and 'to kill' were such utterly incompatible concepts that they had been literally unable to imagine killing the person that you are. Until we asked the question, and kept asking it until they understood."

He took another long drink, a deep breath, and shuddered. The man at the table raised his head just long enough to wipe his eyes.

It was the Linguists, part III Anonymous Sat Feb 12 23:58:47 2011 No.2526208

"It nearly destroyed their civilization. They didn't have the millennia of evolved defense mechanisms that we did, the cultural institutions that discourage killing yourself, the structures to deal with it.

"They experimented.

"They died.

"Their cultures crumbled."

"Not fucking far enough they didn't," the smaller man muttered, and lay his head down again with a thud.

"They fell so fast. Our linguists came back on the last starship they sent out, along with what was left of their Tanatha colleagues. Half the crew died on the way, but they got here."

"Bastards."

"And their linguists, the ones that stayed alive, learned our language in return, and one day they knew enough to ask, to ask what was our word for --"

"No, no, no, no, no," the man slumped over the table moaned monotonously, as another explosion bloomed outside and a chorus of voices raised in an ululating scream, full of fear and an incomprehensible ecstacy.

>>	It was the Linguists, source Anonymous Sun Feb 13 00:00:47 2011 No.2526220 http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005416.html I also suggest you follow the link to the "linguistic relativity hypothesis," it may blow your mind

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 13 00:25:47 2011 No.2526349 >>2526220 Implying that an advanced civilization, no matter how different their linguistics, would not be able to comprehend the consequences of end your own life. It's an interesting concept, that story just uses a poor example.

>>	Anonγmous Sun Feb 13 00:29:47 2011 No.2526377 >>2526220 >to ask what was our word for --" Word for what? Now I'm left wondering.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 13 01:13:47 2011 No.2526626 >>2526377 A concept so alien that it drives us to insanity apparently. Kind of a silly example,but entertaining story

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 13 01:21:47 2011 No.2526665 >>2525381 He said we needed to view it as a serious possibility. I just hope that if that is the case, we become their beloved pets instead of seasonal game.

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